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Vasiliyan
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Posted - 2006.04.26 01:08:00 -
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Exuro Mortis has declared war on The New Order.
That's the fifth war this month. Four different sets of mercenaries, And this time, it's an entire alliance versus a single, small, industrial corp. We've managed to fend for ourselves so far, but the damage is leaking through our hulls to our spirits. We can make more munitions, but it's much harder to build morale in the face of odds that rachet up against us like this, to be so overwhelming. One of the reasons is that we don't know who we're really fighting.
Strange, isn't it? Every merc we've spoken to so far has made reference to a mysterious client with unrealistic extortionate demands centering around our starbase. They say they too are in the dark as to the true identity of the client, or what offence we have given them.
I doubt extortion or "empire piracy" is the real motive. It would surely be more profitable to roam belts for a few hours ransoming victims than to hire multiple corps of mercenaries camp stations for days. This feels more personal than that. It has escalated as far as the (brief) deployment of a Dreadnaught against our starbase, clearly intended more as a tactical manouver to draw out a paniced fleet than a serious attack. That can't be cheap.
The other possibility is that somewhere there is a smoky room in which our name is being passed round on a list of possible Empire targets. If so, there must be other corps on the list. Perhaps they would be interested in collaborating with us?
We want to bring the war to a swift, decisive and above all final conclusion. We are willing to negotiate, but only to the true face of our agressor. No surrender to faceless cowards.
Serious advice and offers of combat assistence, alliance membership or intelligence gratefully recieved. Frankly, I'd rather fight in 0.0, if it were our home territory.
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Jonis Sinmaker
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Posted - 2006.04.26 01:12:00 -
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welcome to eve
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abraheam
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Posted - 2006.04.26 01:32:00 -
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My advice. Get out of empire. My corp got WD 1-3 times per week. The reason were every possible one from our placement of goods on the market to target practice for thier noobs. we tried to be diplomatic, and to be fighters but it wasnt going to work. to many ****s. When you negotiate peace with one, they tell the next pirate corp you are easy targets and they fill the void.
We moved 25 jumps away. Then we joined an alliance and moved another 50 jumps away deeeeeeep into 0.0. It worked. I engage the enemy when I want to now, I mine and rat better resources, and am involved in a good alliance with lots of oppurtunities.
We had to pay a little chunk of change to get in because we were(still are) noobs but it was worth it. Only other advice is if you join an alliance make sure there are no mining quotas.
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MacGiven
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Posted - 2006.04.26 01:38:00 -
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You're getting wardecs because you're an easy target. It will never end unless you join an alliance. 
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Archilies
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Posted - 2006.04.26 02:34:00 -
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 Originally by: MacGiven
You're getting wardecs because you're an easy target. It will never end unless you join an alliance.
/me slaps mac with a trout.
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U Wanna
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Posted - 2006.04.26 10:09:00 -
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And Jove came to me and he spoke to me:
find a beast with the name of Vasiliyan and his followers.
Dont hesitate to bring him down to the great guggilimuggeli
until he answers the question .
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2006.04.26 10:44:00 -
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Get out of the frying pan (empire) into the fire (0.0) is your best bet. At least then you can fight fire with fire 
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Ronald shootsen
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Posted - 2006.04.26 11:00:00 -
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And in 0.0 your alliance mates and other friendlies can shoot at ppl comming to attack you without CONCORD getting involved. Even pirates camping the routes to 0.0 will do you the favor of ganking some of them :)
In many respects 0.0 is actually safer and calmer than empire, especially if you are in a well organized alliance.
I live in 0.0 and sometimes there are weeks between bad ppl comming... and when they do 100 ppl go looking for them just for the fun of it :P
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Troye
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Posted - 2006.04.26 14:21:00 -
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Yeah get out to 0.0, no CONCORD, no sentries = so much simpler 
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swoj
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Posted - 2006.04.26 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: MacGiven
You're getting wardecs because you're an easy target. It will never end unless you join an alliance.
I would have thought that the annonymous corp that is paying many merc corps to WD us must be doing it for another reason that it is easy. Doesn't matter how easy it is, you don't just throw ISK away just to make life hard for a random corp.
We know that these things happen in Eve, that will never change, but we would like to know the identity of the corp that is funding the multiple wars against us
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Ty Rone
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Posted - 2006.04.26 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: Ty Rone on 26/04/2006 14:55:08
Nothing personal, just buisines.
Enjoy
-- I am not a pirate, i just shoot if i feel like it --
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.04.26 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Beringe on 26/04/2006 15:06:05
Originally by: swoj
I would have thought that the annonymous corp that is paying many merc corps to WD us must be doing it for another reason that it is easy. Doesn't matter how easy it is, you don't just throw ISK away just to make life hard for a random corp.
We know that these things happen in Eve, that will never change, but we would like to know the identity of the corp that is funding the multiple wars against us
Are you sure there is anyone funding the wars? Merc corps have been known to pick an easy target and claim that they've been 'contracted' against them, in order to establish themselves in the field.
Plus, there's always the outside chance that some of the corps are simply making an excuse in order to look less lame.
Edit: Five wars does seem to be a lot, though. I guess I shouldn't try to convince you guys not to be paranoid.
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swoj
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Posted - 2006.04.26 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: swoj on 26/04/2006 15:19:15
When 1 corp isn't succeeding, their retraction is very quickly followed by the next corps WD, too quick to be coincidence, and we get the same story from each one.
"You can take our pods, but you'll never take our Freedom!"
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Mutlu Palutli
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Posted - 2006.04.26 15:23:00 -
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Well the claims are that we are to remove 2 ofour POS's and surrender them to the "client" (someone not talking to mercs unless he uses an alt) (wuzz) and surrender our spot to him as well.
This is an official statement from the new order : Quote:
We will never surrender our POS's, no matter how long time you spend on camping the system
Whoever is such a coward and wants to spend so much isk on us is a complete coward and has already spent more isk on hiring the mercs, than it would have cost him to buy himself a brand new POS and fuel for some weeks.
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Snodgey2004
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Posted - 2006.04.26 15:27:00 -
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I've seen you guys in the area and the ECP boys blobbing you , as i said in local , some people just pick the easy targets , some people call themselves mercs and hide behind it when infact they are just pirates simply , but all the war decs you have been having i'd say that most of the war decs are for a bigger reason than being easy targets .
And while i'm at it what do you guys have in Yong that is so special ? the amount of firepower them guys brought to kill a max of 4 docked ships was quite sickening 
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Mutlu Palutli
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:15:00 -
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In Yong we have....
.... Nothing.
Never had that. at all
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Miss Lear
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Lear on 26/04/2006 16:18:38
New World Order corp. My name is Miss Lear
I would like to talk to you about your problem a bit more in detail, So if you would mail me please do so.
I might have a solution for you
Once i have recivied a mail from one of you notifying me that you are interested i iwll talk more to you
Edit: i iwll reply to them either late wensday night or thursday after noone
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meowmix69
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vasiliyan
Exuro Mortis has declared war on The New Order.
The other possibility is that somewhere there is a smoky room in which our name is being passed round on a list of possible Empire targets. If so, there must be other corps on the list. Perhaps they would be interested in collaborating with us?
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hmm
sounds lıke GHSC to me but they wouldnt pıck on you poor guys for no reason ı dont thınk
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Sha Xian
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:19:00 -
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Been under cutting people by 0.01 ISK on the market with your goods? I wouldn't be surprised if you have seriously ****ed someone off and you are just getting what you deserve.
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Agamemnon2K5
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Agamemnon2K5 on 26/04/2006 16:20:52
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And while i'm at it what do you guys have in Yong that is so special ? the amount of firepower them guys brought to kill a max of 4 docked ships was quite sickening
Thats the point of our confusion, the moon is next to worthless, producing simple reactions.
It would have saved a lot of time and isk for the alleged client to have approached us and asked for a deal on the products or bought our moon spot off us. Instead he/she has spend well over 1 bil isk already and prolly more.
The war decs now number a total of 6, with the first 3 retracted. Ideally, we would like the client to come forward if he exists and talk to us either as him main or through an alt.
edit for spelling
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violator2k5
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Lear
Edited by: Miss Lear on 26/04/2006 16:18:38
New World Order corp. My name is Miss Lear
I would like to talk to you about your problem a bit more in detail, So if you would mail me please do so.
I might have a solution for you
Once i have recivied a mail from one of you notifying me that you are interested i iwll talk more to you
Edit: i iwll reply to them either late wensday night or thursday after noone
please note that i have sent you a eve mail to organise contact in due time
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Kin Hanyerec
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Posted - 2006.04.27 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: Kin Hanyerec on 27/04/2006 01:44:28
the right to wardec is also part of the market 
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Mi Lai
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Posted - 2006.04.27 02:45:00 -
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Damn, you guys are lucky. We only get wardecced once every 2 weeks  .
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Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.04.27 12:37:00 -
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I'm always undercutting people on the market by .01 isk
owned
- Vlasic of TW Fame
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Carnagge
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Posted - 2006.04.27 22:16:00 -
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Pay the mercs a lower general defense payment not to take contracts under those terms from that person. Meaning, they find out who they are dealing with. IM suprised mercs actually accepted a contract like that. Rule 1 when doing contracts is to KNOW who your dealing with. Never want to get in over your head. anyways, if you can get a couple general low paying contracts to a merc corp or two. To come to your defense, when attacked. Or pay them outright to protect you.
Sounds like you need to do something... Get something to make people think twice about attacking you.
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Mia Miagi
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Posted - 2006.04.28 00:10:00 -
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Mercs, by contract, do not disclose who retained them unless they are told to do so. It would be the end of their business if they did. So all the boo hooing isn't going to change your lack of knowledge about who hired them.
You have given terms, they are very clear:
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unrealistic extortionate demands centering around our starbase
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We are willing to negotiate, but only to the true face of our agressor
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No surrender to faceless cowards
Whomever hired the mercs apparently isn't interested in them. If I were in your position, I would soften my stand or be prepared for it to continue.
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.04.28 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: meowmix69
Originally by: Vasiliyan
Exuro Mortis has declared war on The New Order.
The other possibility is that somewhere there is a smoky room in which our name is being passed round on a list of possible Empire targets. If so, there must be other corps on the list. Perhaps they would be interested in collaborating with us?
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hmm
sounds lıke GHSC to me but they wouldnt pıck on you poor guys for no reason ı dont thınk
GHSC are well known newbie griefers.
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larietta
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Posted - 2006.04.28 08:24:00 -
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griefers are only after one thing kill mails
i bet there is no money backer .there just doing it for fun
you have some good fighters in your corp and you have seen off the merc's so far but now you need to move you corp to 0.0 and learn how to work as a team .even your miners can jump in to a frig and come and help .time will tell and you boys can kick ass
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.04.28 08:26:00 -
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Which corps or mercs have you decced at the moment, and which ones have decced you in the past?
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Agamemnon2K5
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Posted - 2006.04.29 09:50:00 -
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Here is the war dec history Kinsy.
2006.04.09 12:46
Pitch Black Incorporated has declared war on The New Order..
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
2006.04.10 13:43
Mercenary Fleet Command has declared war on The New Order..
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
2006.04.14 05:34
Finis Lumen has declared war on The New Order..
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
2006.04.17 14:45
The war between Pitch Black Incorporated and The New Order. is coming to an end. Pitch Black Incorporated has retracted the war against
The New Order.. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
2006.04.17 17:12
The war between Mercenary Fleet Command and The New Order. is coming to an end. Mercenary Fleet Command has retracted the war
against The New Order.. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
2006.04.20 04:51
Hmmzor. has declared war on The New Order..
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
2006.04.21 05:59
CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention.
2006.04.21 23:55
ECP Rogues has declared war on The New Order..
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
2006.04.25 12:22
Exuro Mortis has declared war on The New Order..
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
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danneh
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Posted - 2006.04.29 17:16:00 -
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Hire some help.
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Brutus Escariot
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Posted - 2006.04.29 18:07:00 -
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NEWO is coward pirates. They use pos as station for pirates. War to stop NEWO pirates.
They refuse demands to stop using pos as pirate base, now they pay. NEWO pirates now leave corp or hide. NEWO pirates not brave now that we make mercs after them. NEWO cowards and cry here like girls.
New demands be sent to NEWO soon. NEWO coward CEO to answer demands not coward NEWO pirates. NEWO to stop crying and take what they deserve. War be over soon once NEWO accept demands. and stop piracy.
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Calgura
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Posted - 2006.04.29 21:15:00 -
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Your proof of piracy? All I see coming from you are words. Words backed up not by your true identity but by your hiding behind mercenaries (and pirate mercenaries) to do your dirty work.
NEWO is an industrial corp. We have never engaged in such acts as piracy, as we find there are more peaceful and easier ways of earning our money.
Not only have we not engaged in piracy, we haven't been crying about it either. We've asked here to find out who has it out for us to such a degree that they would willingly spend many times what our POS is worth to take it out. If that constitutes crying, and being cowards, then what does your reply to all of this tell us about you?
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Tyfuz
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Posted - 2006.04.29 21:22:00 -
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Im sorry Brutus but i dont got the info as you got and im confused by what you are saying. Newo is a mining and industrial
Corp and we have been demanded to leave one of our POS but the one that hires merch will not tell who he is or why he
does it. We have friends and good defence so for the corp it is not a problem but since most of us are not interested in
war since they are miners, they changed corp until war ends and they are most welcome back. If you have any facts, plz inform us and we can assist you in
a constructive way.
List what pirates we are hiding, if piracy really is the problem. If that is not the problem just write something angry and insulting.
Have a nice day!
Tyfuz - NEWO
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Aybabtu
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Posted - 2006.04.29 21:23:00 -
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ROFL pirates :)
yaarr
find me one killboard post or one message or anything that shows we have pirated ... a single peice of evidence :) please
lolol anyone who knows us knows thats a load of clap... your the coward not us com an fight us your self dont hire mercs then call us cowards, we have stood up to 6 merc corps now, yea ok the first 3 had the killing skills of dead goldfish but the last 3 have some game and actually have respect for certain members of the last 3 corps..
your never going to get a single thing from us so keep wasting your isk we have probably lost 1/4 of what you have spent on mercs and the losses we have inflicted on merc corps... ( thats in no way dissing some of the corps we are waring, like i say myself and mos of the corp have respect for quite a few of the people we have fought)
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Brutus Escariot
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Posted - 2006.04.29 21:25:00 -
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You have fun with war? Your corp crippled, you lose many members, including most pirates. You hide in stations, you not brave now.
You want end to war then you silent. Demands be sent to NEWO pirate CEO soon. Anyone from NEWO not CEO make response and war continue and you be beat more.
Wait silent until demands sent. Only CEO to respond unless you want more war.
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Calgura
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Posted - 2006.04.29 21:27:00 -
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Then bring it on please. Show us your true self and come fight us, and we shall happily meet YOU! on the battlefield. Until then it's just shameless words.
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Aybabtu
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Posted - 2006.04.29 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Aybabtu on 29/04/2006 21:31:16
New Order OFFICAL RESPONCE
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Tyfuz
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Posted - 2006.04.29 21:34:00 -
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Brutus, i was a bit chocked about the pirate thing but since you did not confirm im happy to hear that there was no pirates. Have a nice day at eve!
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Nicklas Larsson
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Posted - 2006.04.29 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Nicklas Larsson on 29/04/2006 22:49:25
Edited by: Nicklas Larsson on 29/04/2006 22:45:28
The New Order is production corp amd not do piratcy, if i see member do it they will be banned, we go as friends and not harm other, we protect our rights and play the game that we like toghter.
Question is who the client are that not can stand up for him self?
Peace
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AceRimmer1691
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Posted - 2006.04.29 23:15:00 -
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@ Brutus Escariot
As a former member of NEWO, I can guarantee, it is not a pirate corp, unless u are referring to me ganking ore thiefs, which if they did not steal then they would not flash red, and hence would not end up in an egg.
Tell me, are u a disgruntled ore thief, or are u a macro miner who's operation has been hurt by NEWO's mining activities?
I would have no problem if i knew which coward hired multiple mercs to try and detroy my former corp, but instead u even hide ur identity from ur hired mercs.
Please reveal urself to NEWO and/or inform us of these alleged "Pirate" activities or...
STFU
Ace
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AceRimmer1691
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Posted - 2006.04.29 23:18:00 -
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Brutus Escariot,
If NEWO is indeed using its POS to house pirates, then you should be easily able to prove this by supplying names of said pirates and details of alleged activities conducted by the fictional pirates.
Thx in Advance.
Ace
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Brutus Escariot
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Posted - 2006.04.30 02:08:00 -
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NEWO make much funny jokes. They forum message pvp, they no game pvp. Corp ruined while they make forum message pvp.
Acerimmer1961 much funniest joke. He run and hide then quit NEWO and he say me prove or STFU. He much much funny. I rofl when I see acerimmer1961 joke.
Isk no matter, We win war, you lose. We get what we want. NEWO no more pirate. NEWO no fight. NEWO hide. NEWO cowards only pvp on forum message. NEWO much funny.
NEWO know me, I in NEWO. NEWO pirates get me, I put spy in corp get trusted. I watch war from inside NEWO. You find me I there waiting. I rofl, that much funniest joke of all. NEWO no suspect me, much much funny. When war over I have more surprise for NEWO. Much much funny, you see much much funny.
NEWO have more surprises. When I done you know who I am.
Must sleep, late but fun for NEWO just starting. NEWO brave forum message pvp. rofl.
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Calgura
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Posted - 2006.04.30 02:34:00 -
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So you admit to being a coward, hiding within NEWO while we "hide" within our POS?
You keep bringing words, yet you bring no proof. You have not the guts nor the balls to stand up to us, and currently your hired mercenaries, although giving a valuable fight I must admit, have not been on par in taking the station down yet. But, if you have a spy inside NEWO, if you are inside NEWO, then you know that you are lying when you accuse us of pirating.
Also, if you have someone within NEWO, then you know Acerimmer's reasons for leaving, which have nothing really to do with these wars.
And last, if those things are so "much much funny", wouldn't it be funniest to end the wars so we can see what's so hilarious and share in your mirth?
And then there's your accusing us of only doing forum PvP. Of course we do. We can't really kill you because you keep hiding behind alts, words, lies and poorly thought up accusations that your mercenaries only believe because you pay them to.
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AceRimmer1691
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Posted - 2006.04.30 08:12:00 -
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Brutus,
You still have not backed up your allegations of piracy within NEWO, instead you evaded yet again, accusing me of running from NEWO due the the wars.
If you do have a spy in NEWO, then you would know that I had left NEWO before the first war dec, for the same reasons I have recently left, and rejoined to help fight a few hours.
As to your accusation of forum PVP, then thats partly true, the aim of this thread was to draw out a response from the person hiring these merc corps and determine the reason for the wars, which has been partially successful if you are indeed the person responsible.
Once again, pls supply one tiny bit of proof of piracy?
Ace
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Deviana Sevidon
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Posted - 2006.04.30 09:11:00 -
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2006.04.30 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Rick Dentill on 30/04/2006 11:29:06
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
Edited by: Deviana Sevidon on 30/04/2006 09:16:41
Taking his English and the Piracy Accusations into consideration. I would say Brutus is just a disgruntled Macroer.
I think NEWO just harrassed some Macro-Miner, and after losing some Ship and Ore he decided to hire Mercs to get his Revenge.
Sounds likely. I had better start being on my best behaviour towards macroers  (me thinks not)
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Neurotica
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Posted - 2006.04.30 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: meowmix69
Originally by: Vasiliyan
Exuro Mortis has declared war on The New Order.
The other possibility is that somewhere there is a smoky room in which our name is being passed round on a list of possible Empire targets. If so, there must be other corps on the list. Perhaps they would be interested in collaborating with us?
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hmm
sounds lıke GHSC to me but they wouldnt pıck on you poor guys for no reason ı dont thınk
GHSC are well known newbie griefers.
Nothing is accidental, everything has a reason. If you want assistance in dealing with this problem, contact me ingame.
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Aybabtu
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Posted - 2006.04.30 15:20:00 -
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message sent :P
hmm i keep well upto date with the storys very good reads
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leilou dallas
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Posted - 2006.04.30 18:08:00 -
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NEWO are nice lads to call them pirates is not only wrong but very funny .
any one for any more popcorn
cant wait to find out who the masked alt is
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Mutlu Palutli
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Posted - 2006.04.30 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Mutlu Palutli on 30/04/2006 19:30:08
LOL - Brutus.. You made my laugh my balls off
Haha.. As a former member of NEWO, I can assure you that I am the only one in newo who has commited piracy, and if you are who I think you are, then I have just one thing to say to you:
If you provoke someone in low-sec, you're asking for it yourself :D
I wouldn't be surprised if this is the specific case I am thinking about, that caused all the trouble. But hell.. It was your own fault.. and btw. How DOES it feel to be ownt by an interceptor, when u are in a battlecruiser?
EDIT: I wouldn't even call that Piracy. You keep comming back to my mining spot, and I repeadetly tell you to find another place. I warn you 8-10 times in local, and still you keep comming back. So.. your own fault
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Aybabtu
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Posted - 2006.04.30 21:21:00 -
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indy pirate min0rs !!!
yar
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AceRimmer1691
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Posted - 2006.04.30 23:43:00 -
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Brutus,
As it is nearly 24 hours since ur last post, I can only assume that you are unable to supply any evidence of piracy conducted by NEWO members, instead as time marches along, it is becooming more and more apparent that you are indeed a disgruntled macro'er. I see no other reason why you would waste so much isk for personal revenge. So please supply your evidence of any piracy, which after all is your stated reason for your revenge on NEWO.
As I previously stated, during my time in NEWO, any piracy, thieving or griefing was followed by swift ejection from corp. It was not long ago that a new recruit was proven to have stolen loot cans from another corp, NEWO's response was swift, a ceptor team was despatched, he was hunted down, ship and pod killed, once his pod reached his clone station, he was ejected from NEWO, he was told to dock, so he could be removed from the corp, but he refused unfortunetly for him.
If you indeed had a shred of evidence that members of NEWO commited crimes, then you should have approached the CEO or other corp directors, and the matter would have been delt with. However you have taken no such action, instead you make claims you avoid backing up with any proof, despite repeated requests from members of NEWO and other pod pilots.
In the meantime you continue to waste isk on merc forces and merc alliances, the reason for which still alludes us.
You say NEWO is crying on the forums, although I do not see how. NEWO has only asked for the identity of the person responsible for the 6 war decs and the reason behind them.
As for your personal accusation towards me, implying I am a coward and ran from ur hired goons, then let me say this again:
I had left NEWO for nearly a week before the first war dec to deal with a number of important planetside issues. Once I heard of the war dec upon my friends and fellow pilots I returned to support and help lead the NEWO forces against the faceless agresser. Unfortunetly, the number of hours I was spending fighting your goons took its toll upon my planetside responsibilities, and forced me to withdraw myself from the fight. Which if you were indeed a trusted member of NEWO you would have known.
Cutting a long story short, once again, please supply a hint of proof of piracy from NEWO members, a measily morsel even, or tbh you will look like the griefer I suspect you really are.
So once again proof pls or STFU :)
Regards
AceRimmer1691 (Not AceRimmer1961 btw (How hard is it to copy a name ffs))
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violator2k5
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Posted - 2006.05.01 00:21:00 -
[54]
i dunno weather to laugh or just feel sorry for this person. they obviously have serious issues to waste so much isk on a corp without any real proof, only malicious thoughts that run through their simple little minds. i will say this, all the alt names are starting to make me believe this really is a macro'r hence their willingness to hide so much even on the forum. (those are only my thoughts)
as for there so called alt within our corp, if that is the case, then brutus, you should remember what we do to people in the corp who tarnish the corps name by means which have nothing to do with what we are trying to accomplish within NEWO.
as for your thoughts about NEWO breaking up, i will tell you now its not and never will to the likes of you. so keep thinking that and when you see us continue to grow you will see how silly those thoughts really are.
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Biano
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Posted - 2006.05.01 02:40:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Biano on 01/05/2006 02:43:18
and thus the story continues, NEWO still lives, fights, breaths and will continue to do so even against such tyranous malicious cowardly enemy that has more isk then sense.................. |
leilou dallas
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Posted - 2006.05.01 09:58:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Brutus Escariot
NEWO make much funny jokes. They forum message pvp, they no game pvp. Corp ruined while they make forum message pvp.
Acerimmer1961 much funniest joke. He run and hide then quit NEWO and he say me prove or STFU. He much much funny. I rofl when I see acerimmer1961 joke.
Isk no matter, We win war, you lose. We get what we want. NEWO no more pirate. NEWO no fight. NEWO hide. NEWO cowards only pvp on forum message. NEWO much funny.
NEWO know me, I in NEWO. NEWO pirates get me, I put spy in corp get trusted. I watch war from inside NEWO. You find me I there waiting. I rofl, that much funniest joke of all. NEWO no suspect me, much much funny. When war over I have more surprise for NEWO. Much much funny, you see much much funny.
NEWO have more surprises. When I done you know who I am.
Must sleep, late but fun for NEWO just starting. NEWO brave forum message pvp. rofl.
dude you sound like you need alittle help
ace did not run i have worked with ace for some time now and i can say i know him .whats the matter psycho boy did the mercs that newo got unset your plans did thay teach newo how to not play dead is that why you got a bigger corp to help is getting bigger corp making a bigger dent in your wallet
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Calgura
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Posted - 2006.05.01 10:49:00 -
[57]
Aye. It has been a good time for NEWO. We've actually learned how to fight, and how to fight adversity. We shall grow even in this time of perverted war. We shall grow and continue the fight, but piracy we shall never condone. (Ohh, I must apologize, I like using big words few understand).
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Snodgey2004
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Posted - 2006.05.01 11:42:00 -
[58]
funny posts , indeed if the Brutus guy did have an alt in NEWO it'd make sense to use that to hurt you more than any amount of mercs could , so either more lies or he has a simple mind , as for pirates i've not personally seen anyone from NEWO pirate and certainly they haven't been crippled by the wars , i've seen them out and about .
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Brutus Escariot
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Posted - 2006.05.01 15:32:00 -
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If cowards make alt then why Acerimmer1961 badgerboi and others post here with alts? Much funny that Acerimmer1961 make big talk now that he no in NEWO. alts ok for NEWO pirates?
I glad you admit to pirate. You no fight merc corp you hide. But you say over and over that if you know me NEWO will fight me. Sounds like first time I met NEWO, many pirates and 1 me. You think I do again? When corps even NEWO pirates you hide not brave now.
Acerimmer1961 get podkill by rogues and cry about implants. When rogue war over he leave NEWO and say he want to do pvp in 0.0 now no more implants. When new war start he come back to NEWO to pvp, he make big talk. Now he leave NEWO no pvp to do? He scared to do fair pvp with even corp, so he leave. All NEWO UBER pvp pirate guys run from war now, you big cowards, much talk but no more.
I get bored now, same like mercs. You no game pvp you forum message pvp. You no fair fight you forum message pvp. Many pay to hire mercs to stop NEWO pirate. NEWO get lesson, mean we win, you lose. You boring on forum message as you pvp. I bored now you forum message and cry like girl. I no more talk bored of crying and big talk from forum message pvp. NEWO have fun hiding more by by NEWO.
Mutlu much much funny, you no have balls. You UBER PIWAT and you first to run and hide. Much much funny.
War not cost much, mercs give isk back sad that NEWO run and hide and no fight. It not cost much to war NEWO no fight from inside station. by by NEWO, we take break from war for now, mercs bored. We be back soon.
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Aybabtu
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Posted - 2006.05.01 16:24:00 -
[60]
me am badger boi, bagder boi me alt !
new0 very happy, you much stupid, you loose 2bn isk, you not make money ebay this month, me happy with this, me laugh now, haha
etc
lets let this die please :) the only point you have proved is to spend a stupid amount of isk on a pointless task that hasn't been completed :/
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Brutus Escariot
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Posted - 2006.05.01 17:19:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Brutus Escariot on 01/05/2006 17:19:35
fofl much much funny. You no nothing about war. Task complete two week ago. You lose many members, not spies but real long members. You take down one POS and no mine with other. You hide in stations for long time. That what war about, task complete. You loser, you forum message pvp only. rofl, war not cost close to what you think, mercs give isk back, feel bad to charge for you not fight, war almost free cuz you hide. You sad NEWO pirates. rofl.
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violator2k5
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Posted - 2006.05.01 17:34:00 -
[62]
brutus i think you stfu tbh. pirate this pirate that you have no proof that newo are filled with pirates and you think we stuck in the station all the time just cos you waste your isk hiring some mercs. think again....
the mercs you hired i have full respect for, especially ECP. As for you, you can kiss my a$$ right after i take a dump so you can bask in my ambiance 
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Calgura
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Posted - 2006.05.01 17:35:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Brutus Escariot
Edited by: Brutus Escariot on 01/05/2006 17:19:35
fofl much much funny. You no nothing about war. Task complete two week ago. You lose many members, not spies but real long members. You take down one POS and no mine with other. You hide in stations for long time. That what war about, task complete. You loser, you forum message pvp only. rofl, war not cost close to what you think, mercs give isk back, feel bad to charge for you not fight, war almost free cuz you hide. You sad NEWO pirates. rofl.
Then I must be the first to congratulate you on your victory Brutus Escariot. You've been hiding behind alts and still you've been lucky enough to actually win without it costing you much.
You still haven't given any proof to NEWO's piracy, nor do we at NEWO feel that we've lost any war, but I must congratulate your ingenuity for this victory. Well done. Yes, we bow down to you, OOOOOOO Masterful Brutus Escariot. The Mighty Brutus Escariot who knows not how to fight his own wars, nor how to write even half-correct English.
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Mutlu Palutli
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Posted - 2006.05.01 18:10:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Brutus Escariot
Mutlu much much funny, you no have balls. You UBER PIWAT and you first to run and hide. Much much funny.
Oh yea baby I'm funny as hell.
But hey.. At least I post with my main 
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AceRimmer1691
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Posted - 2006.05.01 18:25:00 -
[65]
rofl
Brutus,
Once again and for the final time:
1. Please prove NEWO are pirates.
2. Please supply the chat logs where you say i cried about losing my implants (btw 200mil worth), when i was pod killed by the rogues ( i have reviewed all my logs for that time and cannot find any crying :) )
3. You obvoiusly know I left the corp before your goons decced NEWO, to join a 0.0 Alliance and PVP more, how is that running away?, leaving a mining corp to pvp daily is running away?, rofl.
4. Repitition, but what the hell, SUPPLY PROOF OF PIRACY PLS.
NB. Did it occur to you that you were not part of the trusted members and were un-aware of the war plans which involved moving all mining alts from the corp during war so NEWO would continue to gain isk, guess not, pls watch and see NEWO grow strong again after the last war dec has ended.
BTW Brutus, I consider this personal now, you have given away enough clues for me to soon find ur spy.
My main will be seeing you soon m8.
Ace
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J'tarel
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Posted - 2006.05.01 18:27:00 -
[66]
Edited by: J''tarel on 01/05/2006 18:34:09
Good Evening everyone,
On behalf of ECP Rogues I would like to notify NEWO that we have now completed our contract, we now move on to initiate work for our new client. I would also, on behalf of ECP, like to congratulate NEWO on its conduct. We were never smack talked and all contact with them was friendly and open.
Yes NEWO spent alot of time hiding, but in the short time we have fought them, this is because quite clearly they are an empire industrial corp. At no point did we see any evidence of any piratical activities or indeed the capability to perform such operations even if they wished too.
We wish NEWO well and the war should end in 24 hrs, at which point hostilities will end and we will leave the areas of thier operation for our latest contract.
Thanks
JT
ECP Rogues
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Brutus Escariot
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Posted - 2006.05.01 18:28:00 -
[67]
rofl. You all quit NEWO aybatu and galgaro only ones still in NEWO. ayabato get respect as best newo pvp player. He die much, but he fight. Galgaro just hide but he not quit corp. Others post here not in NEWO, they all quit to hide. I have list many NEWO members who leave corp who in NEWO long time not spies.
Some NEWO not post alts, but not make difference if main keep quitting corp to avoid war, same as post with alt can't get hurt .
Violator2k5 truth, I waste much time on forum, I no need post here. NEWO know truth, try to fool eve forum reader of seomthing else. I know truth all that matter. I no post again, bored now.
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Calgura
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Posted - 2006.05.01 18:44:00 -
[68]
Yes, we know the truth. Apparently we're the only ones who know the truth. Well, us and everyone except you, since you're the only one claiming we've been pirating.
Also, I have not been hiding. I've twice joined the Corp in their armada to look around Biphi. Otherwise I've been doing what I should be doing. Mining and running missions, like most of NEWO has been doing.
ECP Rogues:
I want to thank you for a good war. I must admit I'm happy that it's finally coming to an end so we at NEWO can get back to what we do best, mining and producing.
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violator2k5
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Posted - 2006.05.01 18:49:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Brutus Escariot
rofl. You all quit NEWO aybatu and galgaro only ones still in NEWO. ayabato get respect as best newo pvp player. He die much, but he fight. Galgaro just hide but he not quit corp. Others post here not in NEWO, they all quit to hide. I have list many NEWO members who leave corp who in NEWO long time not spies.
Some NEWO not post alts, but not make difference if main keep quitting corp to avoid war, same as post with alt can't get hurt .
Violator2k5 truth, I waste much time on forum, I no need post here. NEWO know truth, try to fool eve forum reader of seomthing else. I know truth all that matter. I no post again, bored now.
it seems you wasted more then just time here....your isk........maybe a few brain cells too
are you sure you know the truth? really? which perversion of the truth are you supposed to know? were pirates humm yea right. if your so clued up on NEWO events then you would realise that i rejoined NEWO after leaving before to assist them dealing with your tyrannical ideals.
i stepped out again a few days ago to make some quick isk without being disturbed by the mercs you wasted your isk on as i was not about to let a good business venture slip away from me, just because some baby spat there dummy out of their pram.
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Will Farva
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Posted - 2006.05.01 18:57:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Will Farva on 01/05/2006 18:57:02
Originally by: J'tarel
Edited by: J''tarel on 01/05/2006 18:34:09
Good Evening everyone,
On behalf of ECP Rogues I would like to notify NEWO that we have now completed our contract, we now move on to initiate work for our new client. I would also, on behalf of ECP, like to congratulate NEWO on its conduct. We were never smack talked and all contact with them was friendly and open.
Yes NEWO spent alot of time hiding, but in the short time we have fought them, this is because quite clearly they are an empire industrial corp. At no point did we see any evidence of any piratical activities or indeed the capability to perform such operations even if they wished too.
We wish NEWO well and the war should end in 24 hrs, at which point hostilities will end and we will leave the areas of thier operation for our latest contract.
Thanks
JT
ECP Rogues
I'd like to return the compliment. Every encounter with ECP in chats etc. were positive. NEWO is not a warring corp (which is probably evident), but we respect that business is business. All the best to ECP in your future endeavours.
/ Will
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violator2k5
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Posted - 2006.05.01 19:00:00 -
[71]
and we also shared a few jokes with them too
good luck to ECP in future and hopefully our paths wont cross again unless in chat from time to time
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Mutlu Palutli
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Posted - 2006.05.01 19:13:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Brutus Escariot
ayabato get respect as best newo pvp player. He die much, but he fight.
YaRR well behold O' mighty PvP'er Brutus Escariot.
Well I have 10+ kills from these wars and only 1 loss. It started getting boring when the mercs ran away from us. But hey... (Sorry.. Just had to do that)(and again)
U know.. U actually don't know why I left corp. I left to actually get something built again. Had had a "slowed down" period(during the war ) where I didn't get anything built. Plus we are testing some new stuff. And there are some other issues, but they need not to be discussed here on these forums
So. YaRR - the ball is now in your hands
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Aybabtu
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Posted - 2006.05.01 19:15:00 -
[73]
yea respect to ecp, acted with Honour and respect honerd 1v1 etc , good luck with next contract and if you need ships or items built :D message me ingame :D
brutus i cant even be assed to reply to you, if i ever had the means i would spend evry isk i had to track you down and make you hate eve but i dont so ill go back to jaspet mining :/
peace out, --- message to all new0 i suggest we stop posting here and let this die, ---- ??? btw dont post and say " yea no more posts :P"
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AceRimmer1691
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Posted - 2006.05.01 19:37:00 -
[74]
rofl, once again.
Brutus, well done, u stopped pos production for 2 weeks, if u had a clue, u would have known, the pos reward cycle, isk was still comming in throughout the war time. And as u pointed out, I would know as it is my alt who is selling the stuff for NEWO :).
GL to ECP, from what i heard and saw, u guys were honerable and smack free, always good in war, and ty for backing the NEWO claim to be non-pirates, it seems the whole of EVE agrees NEWO are not pirates with the exception of Brutus.
BTW Brutus, are u sure you have the right corp?
There are 2 THE NEW ORDER'S.
1. The New Order. (Ticker NEWO)
2. The New Order (Ticker TNO)
Reading ur previous post, u claim a gang of NEWO attacked and ganked you, the only time NEWO fleets have conducted operations in low sec were either part of an anti-pirate op, or for system security during a pos deployment. The anti-pirate ops only suceeded in chasing the target pirates away without kills, and the pos security teams were a deterrent, with no engagements with either hostiles or neutrals.
This I can say with certainty, as I was present on all occasions, monitoring and commanding via TS, corp and gang chat.
So please review your piracy accusations against the corp I was part of for so long and present your evidence, which I doubt exists.
But if indeed you have evidence of misconduct by NEWO members, then please bring it to the attention of the senior members and the individuals will be delt with.
Regards
Ace
Agamemnon2k5 = my alt
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Elendar
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Posted - 2006.05.01 21:48:00 -
[75]
sounds like someone ****ed off one of the macro organisations
poor chinaman, nero bad, me sad, me kill!
Originally by: Derith
not even jesus loves you
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Noluck Ned
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Posted - 2006.05.02 13:17:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Noluck Ned on 02/05/2006 13:22:54
Edited by: Noluck Ned on 02/05/2006 13:22:30
I want to add my .02 isk worth.
In my opinion, the alt calling himself "Brutus Escariot" is not a non-native English speaker as he appears.
Several inconsistencies in his posts appear to point to him being a Native speaker pretending to be non-native with a poor command of the English Language.
If you were to carefully re-read his commentary you will notice that(with one exception) his spelling is spot on. Not only that but his syntax appears to have been intentionally "Dumbed Down".
I once used to present English as a foreign language classes and I will be the first to admit that my spelling is terrible. In my experience, foreigners who have managed to gain the level of spelling he displays have all advanced far beyond the level of making grammatical errors on that scale. Witness his correct(90%)use of punctuation for example.
Also he avoids all the most common mistakes made by non-native speakers. In short he appears to be trying to come across as a foreigner(non-native English speaker) whilst in fact he probably is.
Also: His Nick is just a little too sharp: Two of the most famous traitors in Western History combined?
Hmmm?
Note: Western History that is.
Oh and I could be completely wrong, but in this case I suspect not.
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SoreAss
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Posted - 2006.05.02 17:50:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Noluck Ned
Edited by: Noluck Ned on 02/05/2006 13:22:54
Edited by: Noluck Ned on 02/05/2006 13:22:30
I want to add my .02 isk worth.
In my opinion, the alt calling himself "Brutus Escariot" is not a non-native English speaker as he appears.
Several inconsistencies in his posts appear to point to him being a Native speaker pretending to be non-native with a poor command of the English Language.
If you were to carefully re-read his commentary you will notice that(with one exception) his spelling is spot on. Not only that but his syntax appears to have been intentionally "Dumbed Down".
I once used to present English as a foreign language classes and I will be the first to admit that my spelling is terrible. In my experience, foreigners who have managed to gain the level of spelling he displays have all advanced far beyond the level of making grammatical errors on that scale. Witness his correct(90%)use of punctuation for example.
Also he avoids all the most common mistakes made by non-native speakers. In short he appears to be trying to come across as a foreigner(non-native English speaker) whilst in fact he probably is.
Also: His Nick is just a little too sharp: Two of the most famous traitors in Western History combined?
Hmmm?
Note: Western History that is.
Oh and I could be completely wrong, but in this case I suspect not.
lol thats some deep **** , probably true though
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Greme
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Posted - 2006.05.02 22:15:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Noluck Ned
Edited by: Noluck Ned on 02/05/2006 13:22:54
Edited by: Noluck Ned on 02/05/2006 13:22:30
If you were to carefully re-read his commentary you will notice that(with one exception) his spelling is spot on. Not only that but his syntax appears to have been intentionally "Dumbed Down".
Yes, he does appear to be using the "ME TARZAN, YOU JANE. Me hit big thing with stick" strategy rather than actual errors.
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leilou dallas
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Posted - 2006.05.03 00:30:00 -
[79]
am sorry but the mercs you sent the first times were very poor mercs we was asked to war dec 3 corps but 2 ran off and the other merc corp stayed in station ,so yes you are very funny alt boy you have the isk to waste on crap merc's.
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violator2k5
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Posted - 2006.05.03 18:40:00 -
[80]
i have to agree with you ned that thought about him using false pretences / playing mind games has sprang to mind and i thank you for pointing that out more clearly for others to see.
as for discrediting the two corps who did war dec NEWO at the start. i myself would not say / do that as they did performed well and more then likely picked up a few tips from the 3rd corp who war dec'd as they had a bit more experience. when all 3 were on working together they did rather well. the 4th corp just war dec'd and did nothing. 5th corp ECP did pretty good and then exuro mortis got involved to assist them not sure if they were actually hired to do so or if it was more of a sign of good faith towards ECP.
anyways all said aside i was glad to meet some of them and actually get a chance to do some pvp when i did.
good luck to all corps involved cya around eve space
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TeamBETAalpha
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Posted - 2006.05.03 20:25:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Vasiliyan
Exuro Mortis has declared war on The New Order.
That's the fifth war this month. Four different sets of mercenaries, And this time, it's an entire alliance versus a single, small, industrial corp. We've managed to fend for ourselves so far, but the damage is leaking through our hulls to our spirits. We can make more munitions, but it's much harder to build morale in the face of odds that rachet up against us like this, to be so overwhelming. One of the reasons is that we don't know who we're really fighting.
Strange, isn't it? Every merc we've spoken to so far has made reference to a mysterious client with unrealistic extortionate demands centering around our starbase. They say they too are in the dark as to the true identity of the client, or what offence we have given them.
I doubt extortion or "empire piracy" is the real motive. It would surely be more profitable to roam belts for a few hours ransoming victims than to hire multiple corps of mercenaries camp stations for days. This feels more personal than that. It has escalated as far as the (brief) deployment of a Dreadnaught against our starbase, clearly intended more as a tactical manouver to draw out a paniced fleet than a serious attack. That can't be cheap.
The other possibility is that somewhere there is a smoky room in which our name is being passed round on a list of possible Empire targets. If so, there must be other corps on the list. Perhaps they would be interested in collaborating with us?
We want to bring the war to a swift, decisive and above all final conclusion. We are willing to negotiate, but only to the true face of our agressor. No surrender to faceless cowards.
Serious advice and offers of combat assistence, alliance membership or intelligence gratefully recieved. Frankly, I'd rather fight in 0.0, if it were our home territory.
We love a good fight. Currently contracted against FIX alliance along with 1 other corp. Need a hand, give me a ring in-game. Were gonna get bored in about a week. We would love to help ya out
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Droidster
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:46:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Brutus Escariot
NEWO is coward pirates. War to stop NEWO pirates. NEWO cowards and cry like girls.
LOL. I think you ****ed off a tribe of apaches.
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mongral
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Posted - 2006.05.16 20:38:00 -
[83]
sorry to being this up again but its worth a good read makes me laugh dude i hope u talk like that in game hope we will meet up sumtime so i can laugh at u6 merc corps well done The New Order 4 getting through this cant see many corps in your position doing so
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larietta
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Posted - 2006.05.17 01:47:00 -
[84]
newo did good if you ask me
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Kiko Makro
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Posted - 2006.05.17 14:10:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
Taking his English and the Piracy Accusations into consideration. I would say Brutus is just a disgruntled Macroer.
Nah, that's a native English speaker who is trying to make himself look like a non-native English speaker.
Lame.
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Huskar
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Posted - 2006.05.17 18:26:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Brutus Escariot
Edited by: Brutus Escariot on 01/05/2006 17:19:35
fofl much much funny. You no nothing about war. Task complete two week ago. You lose many members, not spies but real long members. You take down one POS and no mine with other. You hide in stations for long time. That what war about, task complete. You loser, you forum message pvp only. rofl, war not cost close to what you think, mercs give isk back, feel bad to charge for you not fight, war almost free cuz you hide. You sad NEWO pirates. rofl.
I know who it is!! Its the guy from my local chinese takeaway...
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Huskar
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Posted - 2006.05.17 18:28:00 -
[87]
Originally by: J'tarel
Edited by: J''tarel on 01/05/2006 18:34:09
Good Evening everyone,
On behalf of ECP Rogues I would like to notify NEWO that we have now completed our contract, we now move on to initiate work for our new client. I would also, on behalf of ECP, like to congratulate NEWO on its conduct. We were never smack talked and all contact with them was friendly and open.
Yes NEWO spent alot of time hiding, but in the short time we have fought them, this is because quite clearly they are an empire industrial corp. At no point did we see any evidence of any piratical activities or indeed the capability to perform such operations even if they wished too.
We wish NEWO well and the war should end in 24 hrs, at which point hostilities will end and we will leave the areas of thier operation for our latest contract.
Thanks
JT
ECP Rogues
Sorry for double post. This much funny, much much funny. Your contractee's just left war, you lose many soldiers. They hate you so much they post in favour of NEWO 'piwates'.
And I'll have a chicken chow mein and some crispy chilli beef whilst you are at it...
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Ashelth
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Posted - 2006.05.18 05:55:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Agamemnon2K5
Here is the war dec history Kinsy.
2006.04.09 12:46
Pitch Black Incorporated has declared war on The New Order..
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Giving up my directorship in PBI and jumping ship was the best thing I ever did \o/
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