No, the solution is for the miner be able to ******* shoot back and have a decent chance to plant one 'between the eyes' ... with his own ******* gun

No, the solution is for the miner be able to ******* shoot back and have a decent chance to plant one 'between the eyes' ... with his own ******* gun

Yes, it certainly didn't have anything to do with you expressing approval of my death at allGǪ liar.

Yeah, no. That never actually happened outside of your head. Liar.

Oh, and I can't help noticing you haven't answered the very very very very simple question:
When you bluff in poker, does this make you a bad person and a consummate liar in real life? Yes or no.

[evasion]

Look bro. What that guy said, whoever he was, is wrong. I'm sorry I didn't clarify my statement TO HIM, who I was speaking to. But I do not wish for you to be dead.

Sounds win win. They say they do it for the "PvP", so obviously it's what they want. I think everyone wants it.

Lets make it happen.

On a side note, do women even play eve, every female avatar I have ever seen has been referred to by everyone else as 'he'

See my previous post.

You have exactly the same chance to shoot at the ganker as they have to shoot at you. The determining factor is the choice you make when you fit your ship or form friendships in the game.

So, your answer is GÇ£no, obviously notGÇ¥.

And by the same token, shooting people in a game where shooting people is a legal and very much expected move does not make the person choosing that move a bad person; it does not make him immoral; it does not require him to dehumanise his opponent; in fact, it does not reflect on his real-life character in any way.

I'm glad you agree. Since you do, maybe you can stop your fallacious high-moral nonsense since we've already established that you are the most (real-life) immoral person in this entire thread and that your word on the topic has no value.

Liar.

Troll

He already has that ability.

Explaining exactly what you did and where you went wrong is not trolling.
Sorry, liar.

I understand you're mad because I shattered you in your own house, the eve forums, the place you live.

Again, all of that only happened in your head. That's what makes it and every part in it a lie, you see.

I understand that you're upset that your high-moral persona got so thoroughly smashed because of your trip-up, but that is no reason to keep being abusive to other players or to keep lying through your teeth with every breath you take. But again that's part of what makes you a liar.

You do not have any weaponization options other than unbonused drones in a miningbarge, and none in a freighter.... which is idiotic.
you are looking at this bass ackwards

Looks like you're taking the actions within the "illusionary polygon" outside of it and are letting it affect your reality.

So what? That's a limitation you know up front and you also know that you are playing in an environment where both PvE and PvP co-exist and commonly intersect.

If you don't have the option to fit a gun to the specific ship you want to fly, either:

1. accept that and accept the consequences that you may be blown up at some point,
2. reship to something else and fit guns to it and accept that you may be blown up at some point or that you might also blow someone else up first,
3. find friends with guns who can assist you,
4. develop intelligence systems (eg. gankers on watchlists, intel channels, etc.) so you can be forewarned
5. move elsewhere when gankers are around
6. tank your ship and then tank it some more so you can survive long enough for Concordekken to save you
7. any of a number of other options that make you a less likely target

But when you say "you do not have any weaponization options", just realise that it is your thinking about your own situation. If I was a miner, I would most ceretainly have weaponization options and mange the risk to make myself less likely to be ganked and a harder target for anyone that tries.

That's just something you've made up, you know that right? And no, having people actually wishing me dead, and other people cheering them on is not taking something in a game and transposing it to reality. It's them doing it, for real. This is the distinction you have consistently been unable to make, which is why all your claims about the connection between game and real life become so completely detached from the latter.

I agreed with his statement that you are a troll. If you wish to believe otherwise, well that's your own insecurity and your irrational overreaction is your own responsibility.

Being unlike you, even online I do not wish to upset your person.

Yeah, no. Liar.

'IRL' we are all carebears or we would be in jail... we do not however accept the idea that we may be killed because some thug wants a shiney... and in the United States, many of us carry concealed weapons through are daily lives for just such an eventuality... in a 'sandbox' game this should be an option, but isn't. I can hug my kids one minute, and draw on some pathetic wannabe pedophile the next.... same should exist for shooting rocks one minute, and melting some New Order ***** face the next.

That's right. Because they are pirates. You can't expect video game pirates to fight fair any more than you can expect Somali Pirates IRL to attack a United States Carrier Battle Group. Trying to call them video game cowards for role-playing pirates correctly is the only subhuman thing I see here.

This is a video game; a luxury passtime. While some forms of gameplay ( notably those that extend OUTSIDE the game) may indeed be morally questionable for their real consequences, the vast majority of game activities cannot be morally evaluated at all. Trying to do so inevitably runs into the huge inconsistency of "what does it say that you're spending time and money on this game instead of some work beneficial to your fellow?

If the point of EVE is only PVP and all other activities are boring subhuman tasks.... give The Barges Turrets, Missiles, and a dominix drone bay.

Give the Freighters, and industrials a means to shoot back...

Your telling me that in a future where we can go damn near anywhere in the universe the merchant ships wouldn't have more guns than the Spanish Gold fleets?

..... So yeah, if the gankers are all about 'emergent' gameplay .... they should be campaigning to put a full rack of 8 turrets/missiles on every mining barge and freighter, up the mid slots to allow for EWAR... and deployable point defense systems in the belts.... after all, if we can have a mobile depot... why the hell wouldn't we deploy big ass sentry stations?


..... Oh wait, they only want to shoot targets, not hunt prey capable of being predators.

If the point of EVE is only PVP and all other activities are boring subhuman tasks.... give The Barges Turrets, Missiles, and a dominix drone bay.

Give the Freighters, and industrials a means to shoot back...

Your telling me that in a future where we can go damn near anywhere in the universe the merchant ships wouldn't have more guns than the Spanish Gold fleets?

..... So yeah, if the gankers are all about 'emergent' gameplay .... they should be campaigning to put a full rack of 8 turrets/missiles on every mining barge and freighter, up the mid slots to allow for EWAR... and deployable point defense systems in the belts.... after all, if we can have a mobile depot... why the hell wouldn't we deploy big ass sentry stations?


..... Oh wait, they only want to shoot targets, not hunt prey capable of being predators.

'IRL' we are all carebears or we would be in jail... we do not however accept the idea that we may be killed because some thug wants a shiney... and in the United States, many of us carry concealed weapons through our daily lives for just such an eventuality... in a 'sandbox' game this should be an option, but isn't. I can hug my kids one minute, and draw on some pathetic wannabe pedophile the next.... same should exist for shooting rocks one minute, and melting some New Order ***** face the next.

We aren't playing in real life.

We are playing within a make believe galaxy under a fictional set of limits on what is lawful and what is not lawful.

To survive in the fictional World, you need to think in fictional terms, not RL terms.