EVE Search - Semi-sane stats ideas for the tier 3 BS

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Semi-sane stats ideas for the tier 3 BS

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.04.27 21:37:00 - [1] Edited by: Vishnej on 27/04/2006 21:39:34 More importantly, interesting + original ideas. Roling the tier 3 BS is a difficult job, because the ones already here are very well balanced at this point. All other stats assumed the same, and 3 bonuses per ship, because combinations are fun: Amarr - Cap + shield tanking specialist, missile user 7H 6M 6L 3T/6M/100DB +15% to shield hp +10% to capacitor +10% to nos/neut range Caldari - General use sniper 8H 8M 3L 6T/4M/75DB +5% to optimal +5% to turret RoF -5% to missile explosion radius Gallente - Sensor specialist 6H 7M 6L 5T/2M/300DB +15% to scan resolution +10% to sensor damper falloff -10% to L hybrid signature resolution Minmatar - Propulsion Specialist 6H/5M/8L 5M/3T/200DB +20% to missile velocity +10% to stasis webber range -7.5% to mass Contribute to the Eve Wiki
Agent2 Holtze	Posted - 2006.04.27 21:44:00 - [2] No enough with the Amarr being shield users i wouldn't make any sence Missile user I think it's gonna be a drone ship, it would make alot more sence.
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.04.27 21:47:00 - [3] Originally by: Agent2 Holtze I think it's gonna be a drone ship, it would make alot more sence. before i lol you ... plese elaborate your logic (there is ONE amaar drone boat ...a cruiser. i just dont see it) __________________________________ Yarr! Pirate Learning Skills!
CptEagle	Posted - 2006.04.27 21:50:00 - [4] Like this much better then the other guys ideas. However I wouldn't give the Amarrians the missile ship, generally I never hear them say much good things about missiles on their ships. Or shield tanking for that matter... Dunno about the caldari one, but it seems to pwn the Megathron. I'm told a RoF bonus is better then a damage bonus.
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.04.27 21:53:00 - [5] Barely even Semi-Sane. Sov 2.1 T3 BS
Agent2 Holtze	Posted - 2006.04.27 21:55:00 - [6] Originally by: Bob Niac Originally by: Agent2 Holtze I think it's gonna be a drone ship, it would make alot more sence. before i lol you ... plese elaborate your logic (there is ONE amaar drone boat ...a cruiser. i just dont see it) as you said, there is ONE amarr drone cruiser TI / TII, how many amarr missil boat are you looking at + how many shield tanking amarr boats do you know of ? Besides that TI/TII frig. So please yeah just lol me.
Electric Cucumber	Posted - 2006.04.27 21:55:00 - [7] Quote: Amarr - Cap + shield tanking specialist, missile user Please, no.
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.04.27 21:59:00 - [8] Edited by: Vishnej on 27/04/2006 22:03:10 Edited by: Vishnej on 27/04/2006 22:01:34 Edited by: Vishnej on 27/04/2006 21:59:18 Originally by: Electric Cucumber Quote: Amarr - Cap + shield tanking specialist, missile user Please, no. Is it so hard to concieve of a ship whose tank is difficult to break? Has the imbalance between damage and tanking become that ingrained in the culture? The alternatives include copying the Raven, copying the apocageddon, making a way overpowered tracking disruptor ship... CPTEagle: We're getting bored with lasers, as all the other races have diverse BS roles, we have slightly more damage laser BS vs slightly better all around laser BS. Contribute to the Eve Wiki
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:03:00 - [9] /me sighs Its called continuity (SP?). For something to exist in EVE it is either A) Ground Breaking (New Tech) B) "Goes with the flow" Amaar + Drones =/= flow... so yeah i guess since this is different, but there is a Bloodline that likes missile in Amarr.. always has been... Hence the Caldari / Amarr secret alliance. Gallente are drone guys, and so are minnie to an extent due to them being allies. __________________________________ Yarr! Pirate Learning Skills!
Agent2 Holtze	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:05:00 - [10] Originally by: Bob Niac /me sighs Its called continuity (SP?). For something to exist in EVE it is either A) Ground Breaking (New Tech) B) "Goes with the flow" Amaar + Drones =/= flow... so yeah i guess since this is different, but there is a Bloodline that likes missile in Amarr.. always has been... Hence the Caldari / Amarr secret alliance. Gallente are drone guys, and so are minnie to an extent due to them being allies. well i don't think any true amarr players would wish to train up a whole different side of game mechanics, all the specs again. I would fell screwed and would never fly the damn thing. Some people do specialize in one race you know
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:07:00 - [11] Originally by: Agent2 Holtze Originally by: Bob Niac /me sighs Its called continuity (SP?). For something to exist in EVE it is either A) Ground Breaking (New Tech) B) "Goes with the flow" Amaar + Drones =/= flow... so yeah i guess since this is different, but there is a Bloodline that likes missile in Amarr.. always has been... Hence the Caldari / Amarr secret alliance. Gallente are drone guys, and so are minnie to an extent due to them being allies. well i don't think any true amarr players would wish to train up a whole different side of game mechanics, all the specs again. I would fell screwed and would never fly the damn thing. Some people do specialize in one race you know Your sig would argue otherwise. But yeah, I don't see why a tech 1 Amarr ship would stray too far from the War Philosophy. Sov 2.1 T3 BS
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:09:00 - [12] Amarr shield tanker and missile ship, got dammit no.. no .. NO! Gallente.. please give us a true blaster boat (mwd bonus and so on) /Mav Spirits in the night! Allll Niiight!!
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:10:00 - [13] Originally by: LWMaverick Gallente.. please give us a true blaster boat (mwd bonus and so on) The Mega should have the mwd bonus rather than the tracking bonus. Blaster tracking needs to be increased. Sov 2.1 T3 BS
Agent2 Holtze	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:10:00 - [14] Edited by: Agent2 Holtze on 27/04/2006 22:10:28 Originally by: Eximius Josari Originally by: Agent2 Holtze Originally by: Bob Niac /me sighs Its called continuity (SP?). For something to exist in EVE it is either A) Ground Breaking (New Tech) B) "Goes with the flow" Amaar + Drones =/= flow... so yeah i guess since this is different, but there is a Bloodline that likes missile in Amarr.. always has been... Hence the Caldari / Amarr secret alliance. Gallente are drone guys, and so are minnie to an extent due to them being allies. well i don't think any true amarr players would wish to train up a whole different side of game mechanics, all the specs again. I would fell screwed and would never fly the damn thing. Some people do specialize in one race you know Your sig would argue otherwise. But yeah, I don't see why a tech 1 Amarr ship would stray too far from the War Philosophy. All ships got a dronebay, so it would be stupid not to load it up with max damage And, the Curse and Pilgrim are able to fit great dual rep tanks because of their nos drain, just in the spirit of the Armor tanking amarr =). And people who shield tank their Amarr recon is mostlikely stab users tbh
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:27:00 - [15] Edited by: Meeko Gloom on 27/04/2006 22:28:16 Originally by: Vishnej Edited by: Vishnej on 27/04/2006 21:39:34 More importantly, interesting + original ideas. Roling the tier 3 BS is a difficult job, because the ones already here are very well balanced at this point. All other stats assumed the same, and 3 bonuses per ship, because combinations are fun: Amarr - Cap + shield tanking specialist, missile user 7H 6M 6L 3T/6M/100DB +15% to shield hp +10% to capacitor +10% to nos/neut range Caldari - General use sniper 8H 8M 3L 6T/4M/75DB +5% to optimal +5% to turret RoF -5% to missile explosion radius Gallente - Sensor specialist 6H 7M 6L 5T/2M/300DB +15% to scan resolution +10% to sensor damper falloff -10% to L hybrid signature resolution Minmatar - Propulsion Specialist 6H/5M/8L 5M/3T/200DB +20% to missile velocity +10% to stasis webber range -7.5% to mass OMG where should I start All of the ships have to have the same amount of slots. All of the tier 3 ships should have more slots than tier 2 and in some cases tier 1 There will never be an amarr shiled tanker, its not khaind Since when does any tech one ship get three bonuses Your Amarr BS has no kind of trend with any other amarr ship WTF the did you get the gallente bounsus from? -------------------------- Guns dont Kill People Drones Do
Aeaus	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:35:00 - [16] Don't want to go off-topic too much; but does anybody know the roles of the Tier III Battleships? Thus far I heard Caldari would be Railgun Snipers, and Amarr might be drone users, any truth in these rumors? My Guides (Recomended Reading)
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:37:00 - [17] I live here in Vegas, but wasn't able to go. Sov 2.1 T3 BS
Agent2 Holtze	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:37:00 - [18] Originally by: Aeaus Don't want to go off-topic too much; but does anybody know the roles of the Tier III Battleships? Thus far I heard Caldari would be Railgun Snipers, and Amarr might be drone users, any truth in these rumors? Maybe some of those who met the devs in Las vegas got some of em drunk enough to get them to tell some of it.
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:41:00 - [19] Originally by: Eximius Josari I live here in Vegas, but wasn't able to go. God you suck, You missed a once in a life time visit -------------------------- Guns dont Kill People Drones Do
KilROCK	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:44:00 - [20] Interesting, yes. Original, yes. Good, hell no. Petwraith ♥ me. I make sigs. Evemail me if interested - I think
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.04.27 22:46:00 - [21] Originally by: Meeko Gloom Originally by: Eximius Josari I live here in Vegas, but wasn't able to go. God you suck, You missed a once in a life time visit Don't remind me Sov 2.1 T3 BS
Benglada	Posted - 2006.04.27 23:13:00 - [22] If amarr end up getting a better droneboat then the domi, Im going to bloody well cry. --------------------------- Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
Xori Ruscuv	Posted - 2006.04.27 23:21:00 - [23] Originally by: Meeko Gloom All of the ships have to have the same amount of slots. No. Look at the tier 1 ships. It is the "all tier X should have the same amount of slots" that gives us the imbalance that we have in the game. All slots were not created equal. Quote: All of the tier 3 ships should have more slots than tier 2 and in some cases tier 1 I am under the opinion that these "tier 3" should not be "tier 3", because it is going to screw the game balance. Lets see - a Caldari rail ship with more HP, more slots, better boni than a Mega, plus a tank? Lets be realistic here, k? BTW, Vishnej - what happened to your brain when you were thinking about the Caldari ship bonuses? Puhleeze. Gotcha! I bet that got ya all hot under the collar, didn't it?
Xori Ruscuv	Posted - 2006.04.27 23:28:00 - [24] Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 27/04/2006 23:32:28 Originally by: Benglada If amarr end up getting a better droneboat then the domi, Im going to bloody well cry. QFT. And if the Caldari get a better sniper than the Gallente/Amarr/Minmatar, I'm going to bloody well cry. And if the Amarr get a better missile boat/shield tanker than the Caldari, I'm going to bloody well cry. Etc. Etc. Etc. Again, all slots were not created equal. These BS must be designed with either entirely new roles imagined for them, or a brand new mix and match of roles/features. These must not be "tier 3" BS with more slots/other goodies than the other BSes, as it will screw the balance. Gotcha! I bet that got ya all hot under the collar, didn't it?
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.04.27 23:53:00 - [25] Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 27/04/2006 23:32:28 Originally by: Benglada If amarr end up getting a better droneboat then the domi, Im going to bloody well cry. QFT. And if the Caldari get a better sniper than the Gallente/Amarr/Minmatar, I'm going to bloody well cry. And if the Amarr get a better missile boat/shield tanker than the Caldari, I'm going to bloody well cry. Etc. Etc. Etc. Again, all slots were not created equal. These BS must be designed with either entirely new roles imagined for them, or a brand new mix and match of roles/features. These must not be "tier 3" BS with more slots/other goodies than the other BSes, as it will screw the balance. The amarr WILL NOT get a shield tanker, so stop saying that, they are amarr not Khanid. There has never been an amarr that is suppose to shield tank. Also the amarr will get a decent drone boat, not perfect or overpowered, dont forget 5 is the limit, but it will be stonger armor wise than the domi sry I didnt count slots on geddon and phon, only scorp and domi and assumed it was 18 -------------------------- Guns dont Kill People Drones Do
Xori Ruscuv	Posted - 2006.04.28 00:03:00 - [26] Originally by: Meeko Gloom The amarr WILL NOT get a shield tanker, so stop saying that, they are amarr not Khanid. There has never been an amarr that is suppose to shield tank. That wasn't my point. And TBH I hope they don't get a drone ship, because I've been training both Amarr and Gallente so that I could have the Domi, Apoc, and Geddon. . Quote: sry I didnt count slots on geddon and phon, only scorp and domi and assumed it was 18 The new BS need to have 18 or 19 slots. Maybe even 17 in special cases. I'm not going to say which I think should have 17, but if you think about it and what tier 3 BS could do to the game, I imagine you will figure it out. Gotcha! I bet that got ya all hot under the collar, didn't it?
Polydectes	Posted - 2006.04.28 00:08:00 - [27] Take a look at the concept for the amarr ship, if you look close it has 8 turret hard points, so if its going to be anything like the concept, it wont be a drone boat, it will be a damage dealer. ------------------------------------------------- Violence is Golden
Kayl Breinhar	Posted - 2006.04.28 00:32:00 - [28] A Gallente ship with 6 lows and 7 highs? It'd take an hour to *** through a shield tank, then you'd have to *** the armor tank, and 6 lows would give you the ability to fit a Damage Control module. You might have it pegged as a sensor ship, but to me it sounds like a Domi on 'roids.
Xori Ruscuv	Posted - 2006.04.28 00:34:00 - [29] Originally by: Polydectes Take a look at the concept for the amarr ship, if you look close it has 8 turret hard points, so if its going to be anything like the concept, it wont be a drone boat, it will be a damage dealer. Concept art is JUST concept art. Nothing more, nothing less. They ALL have 8 turrets at this point. I'll bet you that CCP doesn't even know what the new ships will be (aside from very general concepts, such as "Caldari will get a rail boat"). Gotcha! I bet that got ya all hot under the collar, didn't it?
Idara	Posted - 2006.04.28 00:41:00 - [30] Read the OP, Shield-tanked missile spamming Amarr Tier 3? Yeah ***** right. If CCP does that they'll ** off a LOT of Amarrians.
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.04.28 00:48:00 - [31] Define "sane", as in "semi-sane". -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Xori Ruscuv	Posted - 2006.04.28 01:00:00 - [32] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Define "sane", as in "semi-sane". null Or "in-sane", which is what those are. Gotcha! I bet that got ya all hot under the collar, didn't it?
Xori Ruscuv	Posted - 2006.04.28 01:01:00 - [33] Originally by: Idara Read the OP, Shield-tanked missile spamming Amarr Tier 3? Yeah ***** right. If CCP does that they'll ** off a LOT of Amarrians. Yes indeedy! Gotcha! I bet that got ya all hot under the collar, didn't it?
Polydectes	Posted - 2006.04.28 01:04:00 - [34] Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Originally by: Polydectes Take a look at the concept for the amarr ship, if you look close it has 8 turret hard points, so if its going to be anything like the concept, it wont be a drone boat, it will be a damage dealer. Concept art is JUST concept art. Nothing more, nothing less. They ALL have 8 turrets at this point. I'll bet you that CCP doesn't even know what the new ships will be (aside from very general concepts, such as "Caldari will get a rail boat"). That's why is said IF its going to be anything like the concept art ------------------------------------------------- Violence is Golden
Nyxus	Posted - 2006.04.28 01:19:00 - [35] Originally by: Polydectes Take a look at the concept for the amarr ship, if you look close it has 8 turret hard points, so if its going to be anything like the concept, it wont be a drone boat, it will be a damage dealer. The Curse has a lot of highslots. It's still a damage dealer, but only a fool would put turrets on it. The Amarr have a T1 & T2 droneboat. We have a T1 missile specialist. We have (technically) a couple of shieldtanking ships. So realistically any of those would fit within lore. Amarr BS - Holocaust The Holocaust is another example of how the Amarr Imperial Navy has modeled their design to counter specific tactics employed by the other empires. The Holocaust is a fairly standard Amarr ship in most respects, having good offences and lacking mobility. It is more Caldari-like than most Amarr ships, however, since its arsenal mostly consists of missile bays. + 10% bonus to EM missile damage and 5% bonus to Explosive, Kinetic and Thermal missile damage per level. (7 missile, 1 turret)(a la Inquisitor) + 10 drone damage and drone hp per lvl (a la Curse/Pilgrim) Possibly make it a shieldtanker. If you need a third bonus give it a +5% resists per lvl like a Prophecy, Maller or shield resists if it's a shield tanker. Come on CCP. Give the Amarr players a real reason to train up the T2 large Drones and T2 large missiles. It's a good timesink, it's different, and it would be FUN to have these in a fleet with some Geddons. My alternative opinion was that it would be a nos ship. But large nos with 100+ KM range and +40% to amount was so staggerly overpowered (especially versus capital ships) that I couldnt in all honesty support that suggestion, although the shades of a thousand dead Amarrians cried out for just that suggestion. Nyxus Macgyver can build an airplane out of gum and paper clips, but Chuck Norris can kill him and take it.
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.04.28 01:35:00 - [36] Originally by: Nyxus Amarr BS - Holocaust If you think they're going to name it "Holocaust", you're really, really oblivious to the world around you. There are a lot of connotations of people convulsing as they inhale prussic acid and burning in ovens. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Kayl Breinhar	Posted - 2006.04.28 01:57:00 - [37] A better name would be the Archangel, the bringers of salvation, keeping with religious nomenclature. That or the Dominion - the Angels of Leadership in the choir of angels. See what the hell I'm talking about here. Too bad Archangel is already the formal name of the Angel Cartel.
Berrik Radhok	Posted - 2006.04.28 02:06:00 - [38] I don't see why people think a drone boat for the Amarr is unlikely. It follows the progression of Crucifier - > Arbitrator. img86.imageshack.us/img86/5540/7ef8aedocevil3ht.jpg[/img] Sig removed lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
Insomnium	Posted - 2006.04.28 02:48:00 - [39] Edited by: Insomnium on 28/04/2006 02:49:02 Originally by: Vishnej Minmatar - Propulsion Specialist 6H/5M/8L 5M/3T/200DB +20% to missile velocity +10% to stasis webber range -7.5% to mass What in the hell are you smoking?!?!? I admit it's a damn innovative idea but itWILL NOT WORK. First off, what the hell kind of battleship would be a propulsion specialist? I know you mean well but whats the point with fitting a BS full of webbifiers. Totally defeats the purpose of the idea of a battle platform? + There are plenty of ships well suited for the role of a "Propulsion Specialist" and if you were ever in the position where you were all alone amidst a tide of oncoming frigates, then shame on you. Normally a BS would be taken to battle against large foes, with which it would perform optimistically. As opposed to fighting masses of frigates. By the time any ship gets in range of being webbified, 1. they'll sure as hell be out of the range of your artillery (provided you had them on.) and 2. these frigates are so damn small even with webbification, you're still not in the best position to hit them (Although with the right use of modules a hit could be attainable. and when they do get into that range, your turrets will feel kind of gimped without any dmg bonuses. However shown that you do intend to give missile velocity a bonus, they wouldn't have too much of a problem of hitting those smaller ships, but I don't think we need another potential raven out there. Just my opinion. Which then leads to my second point. 5 Med slots compared to 8 low?!? This sure is leading to an armor tanking ship. If it's going to be a propulsion ships I think medium slots would be a lot more appropriate seeing as how most of the propulsion mods are fitted there... and armor tanking (if you intend on tanking on the ship) would be terribly flawed. First off a good tank would actually add mass to the ship thus reducing it's entire "propultion aspect" and in order to maintain that tank you'll also have to sacrifice some med slots to keep that capacitor going. (Yeah I know fit nos... which doesnt really leave you with all that many hislots... 6 slots? 2nos? 4... launchers... this is a missile boat right? = Death) AND WITH THOSE SACRIFICED MED SLOTS WHERE WILL ALL THE PROPULSION MODS GO?!?!?!? even if you don't tank, having very few self defence capabilities and only the ability to shoot missiles at the enemy, which for the record WOULD BE BEST USED FROM AFAR, this ship wouldn't be that great of a hit. Even in Minmatar standards, it would be deemed "crap". And as an added bonus, we get to go faster than other battleships! Huzzah!!!! oh wait... but we're still so God damn big they'll hit us anyways. So stop banging on the damn hull with the nerf bat and just wait for the new BS to come out. I know it's only a concept but I was rather outraged by the proposal... sorry so I don't mean to be a complete arse.
Polydectes	Posted - 2006.04.28 02:55:00 - [40] Originally by: Nyxus Amarr BS - Holocaust The Holocaust is another example of how the Amarr Imperial Navy has modeled their design to counter specific tactics employed by the other empires. The Holocaust is a fairly standard Amarr ship in most respects, having good offences and lacking mobility. It is more Caldari-like than most Amarr ships, however, since its arsenal mostly consists of missile bays. Nyxus Well that sounds pretty fun to fly, nice for a change. With missile and drone bonus, it looks like it will be a tough ship to fight against, as it will be useless to try and jam, and probably tank like a champ. As much fun as a geddon is to fly in, as soon as someone turns on a microwave the interference jams my sensors :S Anyways, do you have a link for this? ------------------------------------------------- Violence is Golden
Nyxus	Posted - 2006.04.28 03:17:00 - [41] Edited by: Nyxus on 28/04/2006 03:17:16 Originally by: Nyxus Amarr BS - Holocaust The Holocaust is another example of how the Amarr Imperial Navy has modeled their design to counter specific tactics employed by the other empires. The Holocaust is a fairly standard Amarr ship in most respects, having good offences and lacking mobility. It is more Caldari-like than most Amarr ships, however, since its arsenal mostly consists of missile bays. + 10% bonus to EM missile damage and 5% bonus to Explosive, Kinetic and Thermal missile damage per level. (7 missile, 1 turret)(a la Inquisitor) + 10 drone damage and drone hp per lvl (a la Curse/Pilgrim) No link, it's just my idea. I tried to find something that was true to lore, yet interesting and different for an Amarr ship. The description is an almost word for word copy of the description for the Amarr frigate Inquisitor. The bonuses are based off current Amarrian ships of the line. Nik - Sure it could be named the Catastrophe or something similar. The other Amarrian BS are named after words for "the end of the world". Holocaust certainly fits. I personally prefer to leave real life in the real world and Eve in "just pretend" land myself. The inability to differentiate between the two indicates a personality disorder and as such should be treated by a professional. I think a drone/missile boat would be hella fun and fit in among the new design philosophies of the Empire. Nyxus Macgyver can build an airplane out of gum and paper clips, but Chuck Norris can kill him and take it.
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.04.28 03:20:00 - [42] Originally by: Nyxus Nik - Sure it could be named the Catastrophe or something similar. The other Amarrian BS are named after words for "the end of the world". Holocaust certainly fits. I personally prefer to leave real life in the real world and Eve in "just pretend" land myself. The inability to differentiate between the two indicates a personality disorder and as such should be treated by a professional. I'm not saying Holocaust wouldn't fit. I'm just saying that it's extremely unlikely because sooner or later (probably sooner) somebody's going to freak out, and then a bunch of people will jump on the bandwagon, and then the accusations will fly... It would get ugly. It's not about EVE, it's about CCP. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
babylonstew	Posted - 2006.04.28 04:05:00 - [43] to the OP, if you think id go within ten systems of flying that #pos caldari ship you have come up with your badly mistaken caldari rail ships get 10% per lvl to optimal, turtret rof dont sound too bad, except it will prolly be overpowered with a range bonus on top. and -5% missile sig radius, WTF , last i checked, bs were supposed to be anti bs, why we need sig reduction on bs sized missiles sorry, but that has to be one of the worst sets of slots and bomi i have yet seen for a battleship.
Dollas	Posted - 2006.04.28 04:52:00 - [44] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Originally by: Nyxus Amarr BS - Holocaust If you think they're going to name it "Holocaust", you're really, really oblivious to the world around you. There are a lot of connotations of people convulsing as they inhale prussic acid and burning in ovens. Do you happen to be Maya Rkells alt, or even his twin?
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.04.28 05:20:00 - [45] Originally by: Dollas Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Originally by: Nyxus Amarr BS - Holocaust If you think they're going to name it "Holocaust", you're really, really oblivious to the world around you. There are a lot of connotations of people convulsing as they inhale prussic acid and burning in ovens. Do you happen to be Maya Rkells alt, or even his twin? Well technically EVERYBODY is just an alt of Chuck Norris... But other than that, no. Why do you ask? -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Talthrus	Posted - 2006.04.28 05:42:00 - [46] Shield tanking ... missile spamming ... drone carrying Amarr battleship. What? Amarr are nearly all about high damage lasers. I'd love to see an Amarr BS dedicated to damage (as in damage bonuses rather than cap bonuses). Whether or not that'd be overpowered is the question. ----------------------
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.04.28 05:50:00 - [47] Originally by: Talthrus Amarr are nearly all about high damage lasers. I'd love to see an Amarr BS dedicated to damage (as in damage bonuses rather than cap bonuses). Whether or not that'd be overpowered is the question. Maybe an RoF bonus (more cap use) and damage bonus, with as small cap, so it can have very high DPS for a short period of time, and then its cap dies. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
B0rn2KiLL	Posted - 2006.04.28 06:21:00 - [48] Originally by: Vishnej Caldari - General use sniper 8H 8M 3L 6T/4M/75DB +5% to optimal +5% to turret RoF -5% to missile explosion radius 6T ? hell no. 7T minimom. tbh i want 8T, and hope devs go wild and give us 9T intresting post tho, i like, just need to tweak abit :) --- new sig, Hijack it and ill eat u. *Imaran hands B0rn2KiLL a fork - Come get some!11
Amarria Lightwielder	Posted - 2006.04.28 06:26:00 - [49] Originally by: Vishnej Amarr - Cap + shield tanking specialist, missile user Yea that's like only the excact opposite of where amarr users place all their SP. If that happened I would prolly have to kill someone NAGA ShopÖ
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.04.28 07:33:00 - [50] Originally by: Dollas Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Originally by: Nyxus Amarr BS - Holocaust If you think they're going to name it "Holocaust", you're really, really oblivious to the world around you. There are a lot of connotations of people convulsing as they inhale prussic acid and burning in ovens. Do you happen to be Maya Rkells alt, or even his twin? No he isn't, unlike Rkell, he actually backs up what he says. Sov 2.1 T3 BS
keepiru	Posted - 2006.04.28 07:35:00 - [51] Shield-tanking. Amarr. Missile ship. Can I have some of whatever it is youre smoking/sniffing? It sounds like some reeeaaallyy funky stuff... ---------------- Official ISD cake & bree reserve thief. Barricades a speciality! Last stands on request.
Adelai Niska	Posted - 2006.04.28 09:08:00 - [52] I hear if you lick Vish, his creative juices get you high.
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.04.28 09:17:00 - [53] Edited by: Vishnej on 28/04/2006 09:25:35 Edited by: Vishnej on 28/04/2006 09:21:51 Edited by: Vishnej on 28/04/2006 09:20:50 Edited by: Vishnej on 28/04/2006 09:18:30 You just can't have a bigger, badder BS in the same roles as before. It doesn't work, it removes non-financial reasons to fly the tier 1/2 ship. BS have a good amount of diversity right now. You need to get a little crazy with the roles or you end up with the same bloody ship with a new name and model. I don't see why we should add another ship in the same role if you can't tell the difference in combat between flying the first two. Amarr are the most boring racial BS specialization right now. Amarr players - all the other races use two branches: gall use blasters and drones, caldari use rails and missiles, minmatar use projectiles and missiles. There's a limitation as to how you can configure the same guns. Having a decent combination of a suckrilege and a Raven sounded interesting to me. So does Nikolai's idea about a high RoF, low cap build. Good points on Minmatar though, back to drawing boards. Born2kill: 7 slots and it's higher DPS than the mega. The RoF bonus balances it out with 6. Contribute to the Eve Wiki
Astrum Ludus	Posted - 2006.04.28 09:24:00 - [54] I thought this was a joke at first! An Amarr BS spec'ing missiles and shields = no 3rd Amarr BS It would be a total waste of time, lets face it if you had the shield skills and missile skills you'd take a Raven, unless the Amarr ship was better than a Raven which would be a whole different flavour of wrong.
Electric Cucumber	Posted - 2006.04.28 09:35:00 - [55] Edited by: Electric Cucumber on 28/04/2006 09:35:27 Originally by: Vishnej Edited by: Vishnej on 27/04/2006 22:12:35 Edited by: Vishnej on 27/04/2006 22:07:17 Originally by: Electric Cucumber Quote: Amarr - Cap + shield tanking specialist, missile user Please, no. Is it so hard to concieve of a ship whose tank is difficult to break? Amarr do not shield tank or specialise in missiles. Or make it a Khanid ship with more missile slots than the Apocalypse but still Khanid don't shield tank! plus they are always tech 2.

Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.