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Chadawahee
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:21:00 -
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transported a 945 mil bpo through empire yesterday, just stay sharp, use a proper ship and you cant get ganked in empire, never.
transporting 100+ mil in a hauler is asking for it
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Sagari T'Man
I got this eerie feeling some here are just defending their livlyhood.
Sagari
And I thought they were just against the game being dumbed down for the likes of you
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Prestis
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:42:00 -
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High-sec piracy is the best thing to happen to EVE in a long time.
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Crackhead Bob
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sagari T'Man
You get smacked either way...but your most vulnerable leaving the gate.
Cloaking does no good as your speed drops to jack, you cannot reach warpout speed until you decloak.
Wow, so many suggestions yet you accept none of them. This game might not be for you if you choose to ignore every extremely viable option (and there are tons of them!) and clearly continue complaining without really trying them out.
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Breed Love
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:05:00 -
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Just shut up and cancel your account.
------ Originally by: Gazon
In any case, the whole affair had one lasting effect: Awarding Stormriders the label of ridiculous drug addicts with a tendency towards utterly foolish actions.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:13:00 -
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How about instead of asking CCP to force changes onto everyone in the game, you just equip some tanking equipment on your ship when transporting hundreds of millions of isk in assets? 1.0 space isn't supposed to be completely safe, that's been the number 1 rule since beta.
Signature removed. -Zhuge ([email protected])
Woot.
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M4RY J4NE
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:13:00 -
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Your cargo is just ISK, if the value > ISK cost of the operation then you are a target.
I suggest you heed the advice given to you in this post.
And no, i do not think we need a harsher punishment.
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Kadrush
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Arkanor
Edited by: Arkanor on 28/04/2006 19:05:33
Originally by: Pika Eadesso
don't fly a Hauler.
Seriously, I ship valuable items in a tanked battlecruiser  To date I have not been targeted 
Just finishing my comment that ended up in your signature. Your signature ROCKS ARKANOR!!!
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Yd Landark
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Posted - 2006.04.28 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Arkanor
Edited by: Arkanor on 28/04/2006 19:05:33
Originally by: Pika Eadesso
don't fly a Hauler.
Seriously, I ship valuable items in a tanked battlecruiser To date I have not been targeted
I prefer a half-tanked BC with a BSHIP afterburner 
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.28 22:18:00 -
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hello its called .... transport ships u know with battleship armour battleship shields put some resistnaces and armour reppers on and hello high sec transport is all safe.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.04.28 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Manic Maynard
Originally by: Sagari T'Man
Edited by: Sagari T''Man on 28/04/2006 18:57:46
Hardly, risk is for 0.0 space , not 1.0 empire space. I expect the police to make us able to conduct proper business here.
You realize that in Real Life much like Concord the police are simply a clean up crew right? They do not prevent crime so much as catch criminals after the fact.
...and the criminals go to jail away from society and in extreme cases the electric chair, over n done with. But EVE unlike RL the criminal can circumvent punishment via an alt or if they are using their main then at most they get a slap on the wrist and they're off to commit more crimes minutes later. EVE needs an effective criminal justice system and an adequate police force to keep the universe from slipping into complete anarchy and lawlessness. Concord aint cuttin it and if the police can't deal with the level of crime in a system or region then the local Empire military should be stepping in.
As recent times have shown EVE is in fact falling under a dark cloud of increasingly unimpeded criminal activity. Where once Concord was feared now they are becoming the laughing stock of Empire space. Do I think CCP should do something about it, yes, because if anything I don't think they ever intended for players to use their alts to circumvent certain game mechanics. But lets say CCP couldn't care less, well then I guess that puts the ball entirely in the peoples court. Unfortunatly it doesn't seem like anybody wants the task of a neighborhood watch.
Either CCP needs to have a look at the current game dynamic or EVE citizens need to start policing systems themselves. Until then no space is safe space.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.28 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nyabinghi
or EVE citizens need to start policing systems themselves. Until then no space is safe space.
It's always been this way.
Look after yourself and stop expecting game mechanics to be your safety net.
Anyway, this is a game. Dont mention ridiculous things like the electric chair
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Cypherous
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Posted - 2006.04.28 23:03:00 -
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High Sec Piracey Problem
My answer is, what problem, nowhere in EVE is safe, if you want complete safety play something like WoW, in EVE you take risks undocking, if thats not for you then sorry to see you leave.
O RLY?! --Jorauk
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EaglesFire
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Posted - 2006.04.28 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar
And T2 indies would be a lot more viable if you didn't need industrial skill 5. That is quite a ***** to train just for safe hauling.
It takes 30 days to train Indy lv5. No big deal. Even my alt has indy lv5, and he is only 42 days old.
Work smarter, not harder.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.04.28 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Nyabinghi
or EVE citizens need to start policing systems themselves. Until then no space is safe space.
It's always been this way.
Look after yourself and stop expecting game mechanics to be your safety net.
Anyway, this is a game. Dont mention ridiculous things like the electric chair
Corps/Alliances take care of their own. There is no general policing of EVE space ATM and I welcome someone to show me otherwise. As for the "chair" I was merely making the point that in RL a murderer for example is removed from society in a way where there would be little or no chance of that person ever being able to harm people in the society further. In EVE such a restriction doesn't exist so the general populus is always under the same threat from the same criminal, perpetually unimpeded.
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Ranged Airman
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Posted - 2006.04.29 00:01:00 -
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Find the perps, figure out their play habits and war-dec or hire mercenaries...
Also... don't haul overly expensive stuff in a relatively inexpensive ship unless you know exactly what you're doing.
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The Judas
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Posted - 2006.04.29 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cadadon
A little more than a warning, Concord will destroy the ship that attacked you. And the only ships that could hurt you fast enough to be worth using, are HACs and BSs...so the attackers are gonna lose about 100mill at least.
I think that this is a viable job, and I'm glad there are people doing it. I am not someone who would pirate, but I'm glad its there, maybe it'll make people think. CCP won't do anything to stop it, as there are game mechanics that you can use to avoid this. They even released ships for this exact job, please use them before you come whinging on the forums.
Not true at all. A raven thats insured with t1 fittings will cost a lot less. A group of four vexor's w/ sentry drones and a 1600 will hit for around 10k damage before getting pwned and cost you less than 10 million.
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Cremter Ragnarok
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Posted - 2006.04.29 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sagari T'Man
Moved from General Discussions - Uly
Edited by: Sagari T''Man on 28/04/2006 18:53:02
Its starting to spread, no longer can we be safe in even 1.0 systems, as our industrial ships get blown up en masse by these pirates.
Targeting just about any cargo that is enough to justify the loss of their ship.
We demand protection from CONCORD to enable us to do business once again.
Its FAR to easy to destroy our ships and we are left with no options to defend us against these suicide pilots.
The perps get a lowly security hit and is left to kill us another day.
WE DEMAND A HARSHER PUNISHMENT FOR THESE PERPS!!!
Sagari T'man
Heres how to avoid this: put 200 BM's in with whatever youre carrying. by the time the cargo scan loads you'll be gone, and they wont risk blowing you up if they dont know your cargo.
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Sagari T'Man
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Posted - 2006.04.29 00:58:00 -
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The BM idea is good :)
As someone noted here, you can deliver enough damage to even blast a T2 industrial out of the sky if need be, and the investment is VERY VERY low compared to what you get.
If we are to do business we need a certain modicum of safety, or else there is no business.
And yes, we already have 0.0 space thank you, go there.
We need higher sec hits for those who want to committ these acts!
Sagari
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Ninjja
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Posted - 2006.04.29 01:11:00 -
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Honestly, you would be wise to do more research on where you are mining. I do some mining at times as well, but you can be sure that i choose systems that arent very busy and mine in a ship capable of holding off an enemy long enough for concord to kill em.
But there is no place thats 100% safe really. Eve isnt intended for mindless space sucking by people who lik eearning isk while watching cartoons.
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vile56
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Posted - 2006.04.29 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sagari T'Man
The BM idea is good :)
As someone noted here, you can deliver enough damage to even blast a T2 industrial out of the sky if need be, and the investment is VERY VERY low compared to what you get.
If we are to do business we need a certain modicum of safety, or else there is no business.
And yes, we already have 0.0 space thank you, go there.
We need higher sec hits for those who want to committ these acts!
Sagari
so what happens when a new player attacks someone on accident they get gimped before they even start the game.
new idea
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Niques Leutre
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Posted - 2006.04.29 02:36:00 -
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Exequerors are a nice alternative. The durability of a cruiser, but can easily hold 1500 m3 with expanders and decent skills.
But I agree, industrials are highly vulnerable. Perhaps a solution would be have a patch increase their defence? Toughen them to the point they can withstand attacks for a decent time, but not to the point they're viable for use in combat zones.
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Drasked
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Posted - 2006.04.29 02:59:00 -
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****.
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Cordt
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Posted - 2006.04.29 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sagari T'Man
Hehe a scout??
What am I scouting for?
They don't relly show up you know..and on the most heavily used gates, there are tons of ships all the time.
What you're scouting for is a group of guys sitting on top of a gate in the usual ships. Kestrels, Caracals, Ravens. Anything of this sort should be suspicious.
You should be transporting valuable **** in a ship that is not easy to blow up. Try a battlecruiser loaded with 1600s and active hardeners, or a battleship set up similarly. There is no reason you should get ganked in empire unless you make stupid mistakes.
I applaud these guys. They do the work of Darwin.
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Gordan Freeman
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Posted - 2006.04.29 03:53:00 -
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Fit guns and jammers and disruptors and wait for the suicider to jump you and pwn him im sure you can make your badger rdy to take on the world!!
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Tyranical Teabagger
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Posted - 2006.04.29 04:23:00 -
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Or you can just fit your indies full of extenders and plates so you survive while the the ganker gets popped.....then you go take his can. :)
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Ktak Ente
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Posted - 2006.04.29 07:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ktak Ente on 29/04/2006 07:10:56
Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Sagari T'Man
We demand protection from CONCORD to enable us to do business once again.
Its FAR to easy to destroy our ships and we are left with no options to defend us against these suicide pilots.
WE DEMAND A HARSHER PUNISHMENT FOR THESE PERPS!!!1111ONEONE111!!!
Sagari T'man
Freighters and t2 indys
stop moaning, eve is a game with risk, adapt or die
This is adapting. it is entirely consistent within a roleplaying game that the victims of crime seek better protection from the authorities.
Its politics not moaning and it would be nice if people putt some thought into their response instead of the knee-jerk accusations of 'moanin' or insipid injunctions to 'adapt or die'.
Feelin a bit crotchety this am - sorry
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klok718
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Posted - 2006.04.29 09:12:00 -
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Much like a bodybuilding midget in winter eve can be cold, short and hard.
i sugest you adapt and move on. Next time you get blown up in high sec think to yourself "what could i have done diffrent" rather than OmGwTfHaXor!!!one!!11! **complain compalin compain** ** cry cry cry*** How about we give haulers 10000 more hull points? would that make you happy? how about anybody with more than X ISK worth of stuff in there cargohold can never be destroyed? huh, would that make you happy??? How about i dont post anymore while sloppydrunk mabye?
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Sagari T'Man
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Posted - 2006.04.29 10:10:00 -
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Hehe I like it how I'm now supposed to move our stuff with battleships too..
I mean, we do a LOT of runs to the tradehubs, I feel that I have better things to do than to double that because I have to put freaking armour and hardners into my ship.
While I understand there is risk on EVE, I feel that CONCORD should give us more satisfying protection, so that we can do business in a safe environment, and not a freaking warzone.
Either we have LAW in the region or we do not, and either CONCORD enforces this or they do not, but we gotta know about it.
Heck, I think there is less risk in 0.0 ratting nowadays.
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terje
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Posted - 2006.04.29 10:47:00 -
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i have no problem with high sec piracy, done it myself many times, although i think ccp could introduce a system which would make life more interesting for both the ppl being ganked and the gankers, something like the criminal party getting barred from that system for a period of time, or once the criminals ships destroyed by concord there being a chance of the pod being incarcerated by concord until either a fine is paid to the victim amouting to the value of the cargo destroyed or the crim has served his time. maybe the victim being able to sell the kill rights or have the option to execute the pod. but i do think there should be an element of chance at the moment its too cut and dry.
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