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Sagari T'Man
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Posted - 2006.04.28 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Sagari T''Man on 28/04/2006 18:53:02
Its starting to spread, no longer can we be safe in even 1.0 systems, as our industrial ships get blown up en masse by these pirates.
Targeting just about any cargo that is enough to justify the loss of their ship.
We demand protection from CONCORD to enable us to do business once again.
Its FAR to easy to destroy our ships and we are left with no options to defend us against these suicide pilots.
The perps get a lowly security hit and is left to kill us another day.
WE DEMAND A HARSHER PUNISHMENT FOR THESE PERPS!!!
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.28 18:55:00 -
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.28 18:55:00 -
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 Originally by: Sagari T'Man
We demand protection from CONCORD to enable us to do business once again.
Its FAR to easy to destroy our ships and we are left with no options to defend us against these suicide pilots.
WE DEMAND A HARSHER PUNISHMENT FOR THESE PERPS!!!1111ONEONE111!!!
Sagari T'man
Freighters and t2 indys
stop moaning, eve is a game with risk, adapt or die
Originally by: Tamora
its not the skills that make the eve
player... its the smack that back him up
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Pika Eadesso
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Posted - 2006.04.28 18:56:00 -
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*hands Sagai a flame resistant suit* While I kind of see where you're coming from, the best answer is to stay out of Jita ;)
High Sec pirating has been around scince forever and while I don't condone it, theres not you can do other than avoid high trafic systems, get an escort, or don't fly a Hauler.
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Sagari T'Man
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Posted - 2006.04.28 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Sagari T''Man on 28/04/2006 18:57:46
Hardly, risk is for 0.0 space , not 1.0 empire space. I expect the police to make us able to conduct proper business here.
Freighters and T2 iterons take time and cost money to fly, not all can run them out of the box.
Escort???? how on earth can you escort against someone who will kill your Iteron in seconds..
Its not the dying thats the problem, its the perps, they should get a MUCH higher sec hit for this kind of act.
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Koto Rae
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Posted - 2006.04.28 18:59:00 -
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How many times does it have to be said?
THERE IS NO SAFE SPACE !
High-security space is only SAFER than low-security.
Don't fly afk with expensive stuff in cargo.
Use a tougher ship, use a scout, use an escort.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.28 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/04/2006 18:58:38
Its not hard to defend yourself if you use your brain. Try NOT putting 100 million in a ship worth 500k that has no tanking equipment?
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Sagari T'Man
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Sagari T''Man on 28/04/2006 19:03:01
I think you don't get it, its the penalty thats not scary enough, I want atleast a -2 or -3 sec hit for such an act.
Cargo was t2 building blocks, worth a little over 100 mill btw.
And NO, putting hardners won't save our asses and then we can't transport anything :(
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Mobius
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:01:00 -
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one simple answer QUIT TRANSPORTING EXTREMELY HIGH END ITEMS IN HAULERS use cruisers frigs with mwd's
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sagari T'Man
Hardly, risk is for 0.0 space , not 1.0 empire space. I expect the police to make us able to conduct proper business here.
I wanna be totaly safe in 1.0 space, eve is like rl the police shoudl protect us from teh ebil doers
I dont wanna have to spend time and money ensuirng that im safe, althong in the previous sentence I wated eve to be more like rl
Escort???? how on earth can you escort against someone who will kill your Iteron in seconds
Its not the dying thats the problem, its the perps, they should get a MUCH higher sec hit for this kind of act.
escort is kinda a fair point, but a scout dosent hurt and that wornt hurn piwats, you can go from -10 to -2 in about a week of npcing
Originally by: Tamora
its not the skills that make the eve
player... its the smack that back him up
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Kylania
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sagari T'Man
Edited by: Sagari T''Man on 28/04/2006 19:03:01
I think you don't get it, its the penalty thats not scary enough, I want atleast a -2 or -3 sec hit for such an act.
Cargo was t2 building blocks, worth a little over 100 mill btw.
And NO, putting hardners won't save our asses and then we can't transport anything :(
Putting those blocks in a Viator sure would help. Or move 'em in a fully tanked battle ship. Or setup courier missions (so they can't get scanned) and move 'em with alts. Or take different routes. Or setup instas beforehand. Or bring logistic ships with you, permalocked and repping your indy. Or contract freighters to haul for you.
There's a lot of things you're not trying that would help you avoid this type of problem.
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Arkanor
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Arkanor on 28/04/2006 19:05:33
Originally by: Pika Eadesso
don't fly a Hauler.
Seriously, I ship valuable items in a tanked battlecruiser  To date I have not been targeted 
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Manic Maynard
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sagari T'Man
Edited by: Sagari T''Man on 28/04/2006 18:57:46
Hardly, risk is for 0.0 space , not 1.0 empire space. I expect the police to make us able to conduct proper business here.
You realize that in Real Life much like Concord the police are simply a clean up crew right? They do not prevent crime so much as catch criminals after the fact.
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Sagari T'Man
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: Sagari T''Man on 28/04/2006 19:09:33
Edited by: Sagari T''Man on 28/04/2006 19:09:13
Hehe a scout??
What am I scouting for?
They don't relly show up you know..and on the most heavily used gates, there are tons of ships all the time.
Also, we don't fly AFK and while we will take precautions, but I think those who carry out these acts get a -bit- easy off the hook.
I think you would feel sad, if someone blew up your car and the police let the perps go with a warning.
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Kylania
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sagari T'Man
I think you would feel sad, if someone blew up your car and the police let the perps go with a warning.
If exotic cars had a recent history of being blown up at that intersection, and I knew the police wouldn't do anything, and I drove through that intersection anyway, without trying other methods of getting my car somewhere else, I might be sad but I wouldn't be able to blame the perps or the police for me driving my expensive car through that intersection. 
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bumcheekcity
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kylania
Originally by: Sagari T'Man
I think you would feel sad, if someone blew up your car and the police let the perps go with a warning.
If exotic cars had a recent history of being blown up at that intersection, and I knew the police wouldn't do anything, and I drove through that intersection anyway, without trying other methods of getting my car somewhere else, I might be sad but I wouldn't be able to blame the perps or the police for me driving my expensive car through that intersection.
Lolz. Yup, QFT.
Seriously, CCP HAVE released protection. It's called the t2 industrial. Now, STFU and stop complaining because you got ganked while flying stuff unprotected. If you want to play a no-risk game, please for for WoW. Or minesweeper.
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:18:00 -
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Try investing more into your safety.
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:19:00 -
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Any specific place were I can find these guys. I'm in the mood to try out some t1 industrial fittings.
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Cadadon
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:20:00 -
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A little more than a warning, Concord will destroy the ship that attacked you. And the only ships that could hurt you fast enough to be worth using, are HACs and BSs...so the attackers are gonna lose about 100mill at least.
I think that this is a viable job, and I'm glad there are people doing it. I am not someone who would pirate, but I'm glad its there, maybe it'll make people think. CCP won't do anything to stop it, as there are game mechanics that you can use to avoid this. They even released ships for this exact job, please use them before you come whinging on the forums.
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: bumcheekcity
If you want to play a no-risk game, please for for WoW. Or minesweeper.
Are you nuts?
Minesweeper has permadeath. One wrong move and it's all over. 
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 28/04/2006 19:23:57
Originally by: Cadadon
A little more than a warning, Concord will destroy the ship that attacked you. And the only ships that could hurt you fast enough to be worth using, are HACs and BSs...so the attackers are gonna lose about 100mill at least.
I think he talks about gangs in suicide kestrels, destroyers etc.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:24:00 -
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another one ganked 
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
another one ganked
Damn, now I have the queen song 'Another one bites the dust' in my head.
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Dolly Parton
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sagari T'Man
Edited by: Sagari T''Man on 28/04/2006 19:03:01
I think you don't get it, its the penalty thats not scary enough, I want atleast a -2 or -3 sec hit for such an act.
Cargo was t2 building blocks, worth a little over 100 mill btw.
And NO, putting hardners won't save our asses and then we can't transport anything :(
sucks you lost T2 stuff, i just started and i know not to do what you and your guys are doing. If this is a run your going to use a lot. Take a shuttle with some projectiles. Jettison a projectile not all of it. bookmark the can to make your insta. it will take you a few times to get it right but its well worth it. i have a system on my route, 2 gates only, it's always camped ouit with PvP pirates. 1 day i went and made instas in the system when they weren't there, since then they have not gotten one shot off on me, i warp literaly inside the stargate entrance. problem solved, for me not them. try that and organize them so when you are doing the run its instas all the way (which means no autopilot) but i am new so you probably know this all ready and your going to ignore me. your loss. new post please
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Sagari T'Man
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:31:00 -
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Yes, I've been taught a valuable lesson now.
I got this eerie feeling some here are just defending their livlyhood.
Well I hope CONCORD will act up and increase sec hits for the future, so atleast you will be sentenced to an extra week of 0.0 ratting to make up for it.
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:35:00 -
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The battleship suiciders get full insurance, so they only lose about 30 mil. That is pretty much nothing.
And T2 indies would be a lot more viable if you didn't need industrial skill 5. That is quite a ***** to train just for safe hauling.
Personally I always put stuff worth more than 30 mil in MWD frigs or battleships, but even if it does not affect me I find the ease of suicide piracy ridiculous. They should at the very least get not insurance if their ship is blown up by concord.
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sagari T'Man
Yes, I've been taught a valuable lesson now.
I got this eerie feeling some here are just defending their livlyhood.
Well I hope CONCORD will act up and increase sec hits for the future, so atleast you will be sentenced to an extra week of 0.0 ratting to make up for it.
Sagari
Nope just pointing out that you have the tools to protectyourself. If you shoose not to use them then that is your choice. 100 Mill stuff in an Iteron V? Wouldn't catch me doing it anywhere near Jita
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Sagari T'Man
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:52:00 -
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Sigh, no instants does not work :(
The time it takes for your hauler to warp from gate is NOT shortened by instants.
Its the risk vs reward I want to get to here..as some pointed out, they can easily kill an iteron that carries, what..40-50 mill and make a profit on it...
sigh
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Bora Chinua
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sagari T'Man
Sigh, no instants does not work :(
The time it takes for your hauler to warp from gate is NOT shortened by instants.
Its the risk vs reward I want to get to here..as some pointed out, they can easily kill an iteron that carries, what..40-50 mill and make a profit on it...
sigh
The iteron would be cloaked on the other side until it starts to align, right? So if the frig in the safe spot is already in alignment, then it's just the time it takes to go to 75% speed. Nano's and a MWD would help to get to speed faster.
On which side of the gate do people usually get ganked? Aproaching or warping?
I've never had to deal with this before, so I'd like to know also.
Thanks,
Bora.
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Sagari T'Man
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:12:00 -
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You get smacked either way...but your most vulnerable leaving the gate.
Cloaking does no good as your speed drops to jack, you cannot reach warpout speed until you decloak.
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