Eve is based on conflict. Whether it's fighting in ships, scamming, or competing in the market, it's conflict that makes the game what it is. Anything done to remove conflict, or make it possible to avoid conflict, ruins the game. Whats worse is that if you teach new players that they should be upset at a war, you're doing nothing but ruining the entire game experience for them. Instead of being excited at the idea of combat, they get all emo and whine about it. Instead of the game being fun, it brings misery and disappointment..

There's a thousand games out there with no real loss. A thousand games where you can die and magically reappear with all your stuff. Turning Eve into one of those games will destroy the entire concept of a "cold, dark, harsh place." I think with the recent changes to wardec immunity rules, Eve finally crossed that line where it can no longer claim to be a cold, dark, harsh place.

Eve is based on conflict. Whether it's fighting in ships, scamming, or competing in the market, it's conflict that makes the game what it is. Anything done to remove conflict, or make it possible to avoid conflict, ruins the game. Whats worse is that if you teach new players that they should be upset at a war, you're doing nothing but ruining the entire game experience for them. Instead of being excited at the idea of combat, they get all emo and whine about it. Instead of the game being fun, it brings misery and disappointment.

Highsec players can shoot back. Choosing not to shoot back is not the same as being unable to shoot back.

If someone shoots your Mackinaw, you can do something about it. Running to the forums and screaming at CCP to fix things so that you don't lose anymore Mackinaws is hardly the answer.

I found that a lot of Uni people took themselves WAYYYY too seriously when they are a training corp, not ELITEPVP.

Sorry I never flew a Mac and maybe I am missing something in the game mechanic so how exactly can they shoot back?

How many wines it this today?

Now, I'm also all for having travel times, they put in the essential sense of distance in the world of EVE. Distances increase regional prices and enable locational differenses, they make far away lands seem mysterious and sexy. This is of course ruined since it's very easy to travel the lengths of the universe (comparitively) than in other games.

But I'm also against the lack of danger and the awful boring times when you are just chugging along and nothing threatens you.

The Mackinaw can't shoot back ... but afterwards, you can do something about it. Go find the dude, fight his corp. Cause him and his buddies an equal amount of loss.

Mack has drones... drone have guns.

Of course, being properly aligned and actually playing the game go a long way towards not getting blown up. but most people just want easy mode. So they give easy mode too.

The Mackinaw can't shoot back ... but afterwards, you can do something about it. Go find the dude, fight his corp. Cause him and his buddies an equal amount of loss.

I saw Poetic had made the topic, and expected a link to a blog.

OMG I HATE CAREBEARS SO MUCH!11!

No ****.

I have to wonder if the op is one of those PvP-carebears.

You're at the forefront of defending their carebear attitudes. I'd harden the **** up if CCP wasn't working so hard to soften the **** up. EVE University is the reason why this game is become soft and doughy.

Highsec players can shoot back. Choosing not to shoot back is not the same as being unable to shoot back.

If someone shoots your Mackinaw, you can do something about it. Running to the forums and screaming at CCP to fix things so that you don't lose anymore Mackinaws is hardly the answer.

I suck at PvP. But I would NEVER ask CCP to take away the opportunity for someone to kill me, anywhere in the game. I play this game because I love the risk and danger. To take that away is to neuter the game.

The Mackinaw can't shoot back ... but afterwards, you can do something about it. Go find the dude, fight his corp. Cause him and his buddies an equal amount of loss.

You are a carebear, most of the uni probably has better killboard stats than you do. If I recall you went on a grand total of one pvp fleet while you were in the uni. You spent most of your time in the uni whining about the uni and being one of those carebears you seem to loathe soo much.

I've been on ten or so fleets and lead a small wolfpack once.

Like I said, I suck at PvP, but I would never deny someone the game mechanics that allow them to kill me. This is a game of conflict.

I've been on ten or so fleets and lead a small wolfpack once.

Like I said, I suck at PvP, but I would never deny someone the game mechanics that allow them to kill me. This is a game of conflict.

I've been on ten or so fleets and lead a small wolfpack once.

Like I said, I suck at PvP, ...... This is a game of conflict.

The fact that you can create a 21 day disposable trial account, train for 7 days, then use it to suicide gank for two weeks is the epitome of breaking eve - you're avoiding the consequences of your actions with a trial account.

I'm tired of reading you cry about E-UNI.

If you want risk, go to low-sec. If you want conflict, convince the null-sec carebears to actually start fighting eachother.