How do you let a "carebear organization" make you cry so much?

show us all on the doll where the bad man touched you

Because CCP is starting to listen to the carebear whining and it is ruining this game. EVE University is at the forefront of that whining. They churn out most of the carebears in this game.

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EVE University graduates their students...

Grow up and HTFU, ffs and get some therapy...

You're at the forefront of defending their carebear attitudes. I'd harden the **** up if CCP wasn't working so hard to soften the **** up. EVE University is the reason why this game is become soft and doughy.

You're at the forefront of defending their carebear attitudes. I'd harden the **** up if CCP wasn't working so hard to soften the **** up. EVE University is the reason why this game is become soft and doughy.

a lot of PvPers are just carebears anyway, hitting soft targets that rarely fight back.

There's nothing wrong with carebear attitudes, if PvPers would actually want to fight real targets there would be no problem, but a lot of PvPers are just carebears anyway, hitting soft targets that rarely fight back.

Few people fight fairly. E-Uni doesn't. Gankers don't. Null folks don't. Everyone wants their advantage. I'm cool with that.

What I see is that E-Uni doesn't want to fight at all. This attitude is becoming increasingly prevalent. The E-Uni attitude is infectious.

Few people fight fairly. E-Uni doesn't. Gankers don't. Null folks don't. Everyone wants their advantage. I'm cool with that.

What I see is that E-Uni doesn't want to fight at all. This attitude is becoming increasingly prevalent. The E-Uni attitude is infectious.

EVE-Uni are neutral because they're a training corp, so how do you expect them to fight?

sweet sweet griefer tiers. if you want pew pew go fight someone who can shoot back.

Eve is based on conflict. Whether it's fighting in ships, scamming, or competing in the market, it's conflict that makes the game what it is. Anything done to remove conflict, or make it possible to avoid conflict, ruins the game. Whats worse is that if you teach new players that they should be upset at a war, you're doing nothing but ruining the entire game experience for them. Instead of being excited at the idea of combat, they get all emo and whine about it. Instead of the game being fun, it brings misery and disappointment..

There's a thousand games out there with no real loss. A thousand games where you can die and magically reappear with all your stuff. Turning Eve into one of those games will destroy the entire concept of a "cold, dark, harsh place." I think with the recent changes to wardec immunity rules, Eve finally crossed that line where it can no longer claim to be a cold, dark, harsh place.

Eve is based on conflict. Whether it's fighting in ships, scamming, or competing in the market, it's conflict that makes the game what it is. Anything done to remove conflict, or make it possible to avoid conflict, ruins the game. Whats worse is that if you teach new players that they should be upset at a war, you're doing nothing but ruining the entire game experience for them. Instead of being excited at the idea of combat, they get all emo and whine about it. Instead of the game being fun, it brings misery and disappointment.

Highsec players can shoot back. Choosing not to shoot back is not the same as being unable to shoot back.

If someone shoots your Mackinaw, you can do something about it. Running to the forums and screaming at CCP to fix things so that you don't lose anymore Mackinaws is hardly the answer.

I found that a lot of Uni people took themselves WAYYYY too seriously when they are a training corp, not ELITEPVP.

Sorry I never flew a Mac and maybe I am missing something in the game mechanic so how exactly can they shoot back?

How many wines it this today?

Now, I'm also all for having travel times, they put in the essential sense of distance in the world of EVE. Distances increase regional prices and enable locational differenses, they make far away lands seem mysterious and sexy. This is of course ruined since it's very easy to travel the lengths of the universe (comparitively) than in other games.

But I'm also against the lack of danger and the awful boring times when you are just chugging along and nothing threatens you.

The Mackinaw can't shoot back ... but afterwards, you can do something about it. Go find the dude, fight his corp. Cause him and his buddies an equal amount of loss.

Mack has drones... drone have guns.

Of course, being properly aligned and actually playing the game go a long way towards not getting blown up. but most people just want easy mode. So they give easy mode too.

The Mackinaw can't shoot back ... but afterwards, you can do something about it. Go find the dude, fight his corp. Cause him and his buddies an equal amount of loss.

I saw Poetic had made the topic, and expected a link to a blog.

OMG I HATE CAREBEARS SO MUCH!11!

No ****.

I have to wonder if the op is one of those PvP-carebears.

You're at the forefront of defending their carebear attitudes. I'd harden the **** up if CCP wasn't working so hard to soften the **** up. EVE University is the reason why this game is become soft and doughy.

Highsec players can shoot back. Choosing not to shoot back is not the same as being unable to shoot back.

If someone shoots your Mackinaw, you can do something about it. Running to the forums and screaming at CCP to fix things so that you don't lose anymore Mackinaws is hardly the answer.

I suck at PvP. But I would NEVER ask CCP to take away the opportunity for someone to kill me, anywhere in the game. I play this game because I love the risk and danger. To take that away is to neuter the game.

The Mackinaw can't shoot back ... but afterwards, you can do something about it. Go find the dude, fight his corp. Cause him and his buddies an equal amount of loss.

You are a carebear, most of the uni probably has better killboard stats than you do. If I recall you went on a grand total of one pvp fleet while you were in the uni. You spent most of your time in the uni whining about the uni and being one of those carebears you seem to loathe soo much.

I've been on ten or so fleets and lead a small wolfpack once.

Like I said, I suck at PvP, but I would never deny someone the game mechanics that allow them to kill me. This is a game of conflict.

I've been on ten or so fleets and lead a small wolfpack once.

Like I said, I suck at PvP, but I would never deny someone the game mechanics that allow them to kill me. This is a game of conflict.

I've been on ten or so fleets and lead a small wolfpack once.

Like I said, I suck at PvP, ...... This is a game of conflict.

The fact that you can create a 21 day disposable trial account, train for 7 days, then use it to suicide gank for two weeks is the epitome of breaking eve - you're avoiding the consequences of your actions with a trial account.

I'm tired of reading you cry about E-UNI.

If you want risk, go to low-sec. If you want conflict, convince the null-sec carebears to actually start fighting eachother.

Because CCP is starting to listen to the carebear whining and it is ruining this game. EVE University is at the forefront of that whining. They churn out most of the carebears in this game.

Thats what you guys get for burning the halls of agony empire down they where the pvp version of the unviersity. Reap what you soe.

May i suggest you go shoot a statue and if a bunch of people come and join you you can moan together, otherwise may i suggets yoga?

You're at the forefront of defending their carebear attitudes. I'd harden the **** up if CCP wasn't working so hard to soften the **** up. EVE University is the reason why this game is become soft and doughy.

Eve University is the reason?

What I see is that E-Uni doesn't want to fight at all.

Huh?

Agony Unleashed and the uni are 2 completely different entities. Last I checked Agony is doing just fine and is on very good terms with the uni, in fact many unistas even take their classes (and are encouraged to by the uni to the point where the uni will pay for the class)

But you are a carebear too...

lol

Seriously tho, has anyone seen poetic actually in the game?

yes I saw her passing through tribute about a week ago.

pics or it didnt happen O.o

The very existence of jump bridges, jump freighters, bubbles, and static moon resources are the fruits of null sec carebear whining. None of them have any place in a game like this but they are there none the less and they aren't going anywhere.

Eve uni is hilariously bad at everything in game and I very much doubt anyone learns anything useful in it. That said, I don't think they hurt anything or anyone but themselves. As for them proposing game damaging changes that CCP actually listens to, well yeah but they aren't the first. The very existence of jump bridges, jump freighters, bubbles, and static moon resources are the fruits of null sec carebear whining. None of them have any place in a game like this but they are there none the less and they aren't going anywhere. I don't see eve uni pushing through any meaningful changes, I just don't have any confidence in their ability to type up a cohesive request.

I'm tired of reading you cry about E-UNI.

If you want risk, go to low-sec. If you want conflict, convince the null-sec carebears to actually start fighting eachother.

Eve is based on conflict. Whether it's fighting in ships, scamming, or competing in the market, it's conflict that makes the game what it is. Anything done to remove conflict, or make it possible to avoid conflict, ruins the game. Whats worse is that if you teach new players that they should be upset at a war, you're doing nothing but ruining the entire game experience for them. Instead of being excited at the idea of combat, they get all emo and whine about it. Instead of the game being fun, it brings misery and disappointment.

There's a thousand games out there with no real loss. A thousand games where you can die and magically reappear with all your stuff. Turning Eve into one of those games will destroy the entire concept of a "cold, dark, harsh place." I think with the recent changes to wardec immunity rules, Eve finally crossed that line where it can no longer claim to be a cold, dark, harsh place.

This and only this. The uni is indeed full of carebears, and will probably grow fuller of them due to a virtually guaranteed Dec-shield, they have fielded rather large fleets no different to many null sec alliances and along with news that there CEO plays killboard padding games despite the fact they're supposed to be commited to newbie training makes me wonder how many active noobs they train. EVE is what a single person makes of it, if they're going to stick around they'll most likely do it at there own conclusion. I know many who've never been through eve uni and to be honest they're probably better players for it as they discovered themselves how to play their game, not told how to

Here's an idea, why don't you start your own University instead of continually ragging on EUNI?? That way you can show all of New Eden how a real teaching organization should be run.

Waa waaa some people play the game differently than me! Make them stop CCP!

People can play the game however they choose. The Uni, though, does not get to lobby CCP for highsec/PvP changes on the pretense that they are a training organization, when any imbecile who examines their membership can see that ~1000 members are very much not trainees, nor do they participate in training.

This will be my last Uni post for quite awhile

I don't think Eve-U pretends otherwise, do they?

Here. :P

yeah cause you taking a pic of youself totally proves you play,,,

you couldnt have logged in for the purpose of that pic or anything lol

This is yet another thread that I fail to understand.

Yeah, lets just start whining about a corp that trains new players in a environment that might just make them want to play the game a bit longer.

I mean, heavens forbid, why would we ever want new players to feel like they have anything to contribute to the game other than a steady supply of tears for gankers. Why would you ever want new players to feel welcome when we can have all these bittervets complain about how useless they are.

These posts are getting more and more boring.

There is a pic with a lot of dots. So many dots, I must play. :)

hey look, picture, lots of dots, must mean I logged in right?

A lot of them are yellow. So, yes.

Funny given I got it from Google and uploaded it to a photobucket account.

vOv

Feel free to think that I don't play. :P Your personal fascination with my logged in hours has nothing at all to do with my fascination with the integrity of this game.