Originally by: Coranor

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DOWN WITH BoB I SAY.

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Originally by: MysticNZ

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NPC'ing is harder than fighting bob :P

Just kidding

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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OGM!!!

BAN BoB!!! they have h4x and h4x3d my compy to make EVE lag during the flette battel and we losstt!!!

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Originally by: Kell Memran

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"Anyone want to take down BoB"

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Originally by: Kell Memran

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Anyone gettin bored of the big alliances dictating others. Just look at the whole capital ship production thing with TRUST, wel now they hav disbanded. Personally i am, nd BoB always seem to be at the heart of it. So bak the question " Anyone want to take down BoB"

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Originally by: Wrangler

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You could always start an alliance called "Jim". And eventually Jim alliance and Bob alliance might merge, and become Jim-Bob alliance.

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Originally by: drunkenmaster

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Originally by: Wrangler

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You could always start an alliance called "Jim". And eventually Jim alliance and Bob alliance might merge, and become Jim-Bob alliance.

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And then we have to marry our sisters, right?

I'll bring the chewing tobacco.

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Originally by: Kell Memran

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Anyone gettin bored of the big alliances dictating others. Just look at the whole capital ship production thing with TRUST, wel now they hav disbanded. Personally i am, nd BoB always seem to be at the heart of it. So bak the question " Anyone want to take down BoB"

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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OGM!!!

BAN BoB!!! they have h4x and h4x3d my compy to make EVE lag during the flette battel and we losstt!!!

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Originally by: Wrangler

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You could always start an alliance called "Jim". And eventually Jim alliance and Bob alliance might merge, and become Jim-Bob alliance.

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Originally by: Tush Pa

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hehe, well said dude. BoB is in bed with the CCP cats, so just let them lay around and fall off the rocker with boredom. Blobing and ganking does eventually get tiresome, even for those guys.

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.

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Originally by: Kell Memran

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Anyone gettin bored of the big alliances dictating others. Just look at the whole capital ship production thing with TRUST, wel now they hav disbanded. Personally i am, nd BoB always seem to be at the heart of it. So bak the question " Anyone want to take down BoB"

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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia

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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 30/04/2006 22:47:16

Originally by: Blacklight

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Me please o/

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You make the cyno field, I'll fire the doomsday weapon!

edit: I haven't read SirMollie's sig till now, but goddamn that's so funny&true.

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Originally by: Sonos SAGD

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/cue inspiring music


Good morning. In less than an hour, battleships and capital ships from here will join others from around the galaxy. And you will be launching the largest space battle in this history of mankind.

Mankind -- that word should have new meaning for all of us today.

We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore.

We will be united in our common interests.


Perhaps its fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution -- but from annihilation.

We're fighting for our right to live, to exist.

And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an Eve holiday, but as the day when the galaxy declared in one voice:

"We will not go quietly into the night!

We will not vanish without a fight!

We're going to live on!

We're going to survive!"

Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!

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Originally by: Trevedian

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Its good to see BlOB blobs on the forums too... They blob so they don't need to fight and they flame until unfavorable threads about them get locked....

A Class Act!

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Originally by: Moghydin

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I think that BoB are hypocritycal about that "give us a fight" thing. Of course, they'd like more fun fights like most PvPer's, but would they want to fight an entity that would really challenge them industrially and strategically, the entity with the same amount of skilled piots and good leaders? I think that the true answer would be "no". Having fun fights is one thing and going to war with someone who can destroy your capital fleets, POS's and take stations is another story.

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Originally by: Wrangler

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You could always start an alliance called "Jim". And eventually Jim alliance and Bob alliance might merge, and become Jim-Bob alliance.

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Originally by: Kryztal

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oh me me me me me me

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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia

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Originally by: Tush Pa

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hehe, well said dude. BoB is in bed with the CCP cats, so just let them lay around and fall off the rocker with boredom. Blobing and ganking does eventually get tiresome, even for those guys.

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Maybe you've missed all the times where BoB members have said they'd like to see everyone else fighting against them?

You do realize BoB would probably love being the 200* fighting the 500 more than vice versa? Besides, Blobs are just the way wars boil down. Have you ever played DAOC? Hundreds fighting hundreds, and did people *****? Probably, but only a moron would bring less numbers and worsen their chances of victory unless they know theior lesser numbers are still a comparable force.


*It would probably be 200 capships.

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Or at least say that they are trying to make out that they have massive balls in eve for where they are lacking in real life!

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Bigger than yours little boy.

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Originally by: Hast

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send me 100mill I'll get the ball rolling by smartbombing the next chavkoku mining op, I'll even approach on dianabolic

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Originally by: darth solo

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If u dont like BOB at least have the balls to post with a main.

d solo.

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Originally by: Hast

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send me 100mill I'll get the ball rolling by smartbombing the next chavkoku mining op, I'll even approach on dianabolic

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Originally by: Thomas Jefferson

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A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Hast

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send me 100mill I'll get the ball rolling by smartbombing the next chavkoku mining op, I'll even approach on dianabolic

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HAST IS A NOOB!

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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia

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edit: I haven't read SirMollie's sig till now, but goddamn that's so funny&true.

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Quote:

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There is probably some major flaw that I overlooked seeing its 4am in the morning and I just thought this up in 10minutes while taking a break from studying for my econ midterm.

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Quote:

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There is probably some major flaw that I overlooked seeing its 4am in the morning and I just thought this up in 10minutes while taking a break from studying for my econ midterm.

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We don't need to mine or rat much to sustain ourselves. So while this would probably indeed be the best way to go about it (aside from the logging off and other sploitage, which is obviously as lame as can be and should not be advocated in any way as you know ), it doesn't do much.

Nothing stops us from simply packing up and going out for some fun because 5-10 man corps cannot kill our infrastructure. So all in all you won't really hit us hard that way either Isk we can make otherwise and elsewhere, losses we can minimise like no other, and the damage you can thus do to us is minimal while we can simply go out to have fun elsewhere whenever we feel like it.

That's assuming we won't simply make the life of those corps alot more miserable then they ours of course. That's been our way of handlingem thusfar and it has worked admirably seeing how few have lasted more then a week or two in our space.

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Originally by: Moghydin

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Those corps will be losing ships, and a lot of ships. They would need a strong industrial base to get those ships at good prices, I mean close to build cost prices. You'll need logistics and organization. The campaign would be very long and mostly extremely boring, so you'll need all those things for a prolonged amount of time. I, personally, have many doubts that such a lose structure will hold for a long time in this campaign.

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Originally by: Kell Memran

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Anyone gettin bored of the big alliances dictating others. Just look at the whole capital ship production thing with TRUST, wel now they hav disbanded. Personally i am, nd BoB always seem to be at the heart of it. So bak the question " Anyone want to take down BoB"

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Originally by: Hast

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Hast

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send me 100mill I'll get the ball rolling by smartbombing the next chavkoku mining op, I'll even approach on dianabolic

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HAST IS A NOOB!

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capslock doesent make it true

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Originally by: Acheron Cyc

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/me fires a volley of Wrangler's dirty underwear at whatever BoB member that is in the way.

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Originally by: Seleene

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Originally by: Hast

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Hast

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send me 100mill I'll get the ball rolling by smartbombing the next chavkoku mining op, I'll even approach on dianabolic

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HAST IS A NOOB!

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capslock doesent make it true

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Hmmm.. how about this?

HAST IS A NOOB!!

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Originally by: SengH

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Quote:

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There is probably some major flaw that I overlooked seeing its 4am in the morning and I just thought this up in 10minutes while taking a break from studying for my econ midterm.

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We don't need to mine or rat much to sustain ourselves. So while this would probably indeed be the best way to go about it (aside from the logging off and other sploitage, which is obviously as lame as can be and should not be advocated in any way as you know ), it doesn't do much.

Nothing stops us from simply packing up and going out for some fun because 5-10 man corps cannot kill our infrastructure. So all in all you won't really hit us hard that way either Isk we can make otherwise and elsewhere, losses we can minimise like no other, and the damage you can thus do to us is minimal while we can simply go out to have fun elsewhere whenever we feel like it.

That's assuming we won't simply make the life of those corps alot more miserable then they ours of course. That's been our way of handlingem thusfar and it has worked admirably seeing how few have lasted more then a week or two in our space.

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But at the end of the day once it reaches critical mass, your 0.0 regions still become isk sinks instead of isk sources. Some members have other sources of isk, t2 BPOs and empire mission running alts. But at the end of the day, most people use 0.0 for their funding. It would take a large number of corps for it to reach critical mass, but. Once the opportunity cost of holding that region outweights its current benifit, you'll gradually be worn down. If it happens in all regions at once, your in trouble.

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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You assume a typical alliance situation where people make their own income individually. BoB (can) work differently.

On top of that, these tactics don't work as well against the people that invented them (minus the logging).

And lastly, guerilla tactics cannot hurt infrastructure. As long as the infrastructure remains, we cannot be removed other then by attrition. Wars based on attrition we always win.

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Originally by: Seleene

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Edited by: Seleene on 01/05/2006 11:12:53


*Holds up a big sign that says: "I shoot alliances for ISK!!" and waits for a contract on BoB*






*hears crickets*

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Originally by: Seleene

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More than a couple, probably...

The thing is, what would be the goal? "Blow BoB up!" Okay, sure we could do that and have a lot of fun doing it. Something tells me we wouldn't have to spend three - four hours a night looking for a fight.

But, at this point, what would two or three weeks of us attacking BoB actually accomplish? We've said it time and time again: If someone wants the MC to go after powerhouses like BoB, D2 or ASCN, you better have the money to back it up and a plan for exactly what you want us to do for you. Otherwise, you're just wasting our time.

Personally, I'd love to be part of a grand coalition that removed BoB from power just as much as most BoB pilots would enjoy the hell out of fighting for their lives against such a thing. Conversely, I'd love to crush the dreams of that same coalition to dust while watching a fleet of BoB Titans nuke their planets from orbit.

If one is to take this thread seriously, if people really want to figure out a way to hit BoB and take them down, then you've got to think in the long-term. So long as the rest of EVE continues to fight each other and let BoB sit down in Delve unmolested, they are going to remain the 800 pound gorilla.

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Originally by: Redblade

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You dont need to hurt the infrastructure, only the people. People cannot keep their guard up 23/7, additional security measures tax players and the game simply doesnt become fun and people start leaving. If theres a recon ship cloaked in a safe in your -1.0 mining/ratting system on 23/7. Sure you could always have a defense force ready, but thats half your manpower sitting around twiddling their thumbs and the other guy could be AFK.

That won't work, u do know that u can npc more then one in a system right ?

If you have to cyno your fuel everywhere to your POSes, because theres a recon ship cloaked and in a safe the next system over (who might just uncloak and gank the indy), the additional costs starts becomming prohibitive for some operations.

Not that high cost tbh.

You cannot escort every hauler carrying t2 components/fuel back from their POS and you will lose a couple.

I see u don't know Dianabolic


The idea it self probably would work against an alliance that have a higher number of carebears but what u sugest isn't going to affect BoB that much and even if it would affect to some extent we would adjust quite fast.

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Originally by: SengH

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However thats assuming all these anti-bob people have half a brain, which from all the forum posts, seem sadly lacking.

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Originally by: SengH

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Originally by: Redblade

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[i]Lots of arguments.

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You points are valid and accountable. What makes you think every bob pilot npc's in -1.0 systems? All the idiology about -1.0 system is utter rubbish.

If you guys out there are planning on an invasion, you bladly well hold your ground and be true to your word, cos i for one will die fighting till the very bitter end, so will any of my brothers. See you soon

Originally by: SengH

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The objective isnt about kills, its about making the space unuseable.

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Just accept that someone must be the strong bunch, and that maybe the advantage they got over the years can onyl go away over the years as well.

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Originally by: SengH

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You can actively track down a npcer using the map very quickly. The -1.0 systems are always going to be prime space and the mercoxit/bist/ark systems are easily known. The objective isnt about kills, its about making the space unuseable. You can monitor and observe movement through major routes with key positioning of alts, so you know where to strike.

However thats assuming all these anti-bob people have half a brain, which from all the forum posts, seem sadly lacking.

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Originally by: IcedBach Jr

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BOB are continuing their "ruin of EVE" campaign.

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Originally by: SengH

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You can actively track down a npcer using the map very quickly. The -1.0 systems are always going to be prime space and the mercoxit/bist/ark systems are easily known. The objective isnt about kills, its about making the space unuseable. You can monitor and observe movement through major routes with key positioning of alts, so you know where to strike.

However thats assuming all these anti-bob people have half a brain, which from all the forum posts, seem sadly lacking.

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Originally by: DaveyE

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Edited by: DaveyE on 01/05/2006 15:43:52
" Anyone want to take down BoB"

Yea
u an whose Army

BOB r 2 tuff for us
so get used to it

+
To take down BOB you,d need a 200-300-500 fleet gank
Anyone for Lag

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Originally by: Boonaki

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Originally by: DaveyE

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Edited by: DaveyE on 01/05/2006 15:43:52
" Anyone want to take down BoB"

Yea
u an whose Army

BOB r 2 tuff for us
so get used to it

+
To take down BOB you,d need a 200-300-500 fleet gank
Anyone for Lag

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500 man gank fleet is easy to put together, it's the one strong leader that is hard to come by.

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Originally by: Caine Weathers

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This whole thing seems interesting to me. BoB members are always saying that they want the biggest challenge possible. The irony is, BoB is the biggest challenge!

Then again, maybe they are just saying all of this stuff on the forums as part of a mind game to trick people into not attacking because that is what they want.

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Originally by: SengH

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Originally by: Seleene

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More than a couple, probably...

The thing is, what would be the goal? "Blow BoB up!" Okay, sure we could do that and have a lot of fun doing it. Something tells me we wouldn't have to spend three - four hours a night looking for a fight.

But, at this point, what would two or three weeks of us attacking BoB actually accomplish? We've said it time and time again: If someone wants the MC to go after powerhouses like BoB, D2 or ASCN, you better have the money to back it up and a plan for exactly what you want us to do for you. Otherwise, you're just wasting our time.

Personally, I'd love to be part of a grand coalition that removed BoB from power just as much as most BoB pilots would enjoy the hell out of fighting for their lives against such a thing. Conversely, I'd love to crush the dreams of that same coalition to dust while watching a fleet of BoB Titans nuke their planets from orbit.

If one is to take this thread seriously, if people really want to figure out a way to hit BoB and take them down, then you've got to think in the long-term. So long as the rest of EVE continues to fight each other and let BoB sit down in Delve unmolested, they are going to remain the 800 pound gorilla.

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From what I know of their intelligence capabilities. Ever read the battle of vakioth one? BOB would probably have infiltrated an organization of that size to a similar extent as the jovians infiltrated the Amarr.

It would not surprise me if they have alts in in the directors circles of all the bigger alliances. Heck I'd expect each large engagement with BOB if I were in a large alliance to have my TS compromised. A coalition of alliances would just play straight into BOB's strengths. Sometimes things have to be countered by opposities, not the same thing.

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Originally by: Romulus Maximus

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Honestly, no one wants to see this more than we do!
But ppl need to actually grow some spines and do something.

I cant see anything like this taking place anytime soon tbh. As for the guerilla tactics. They may well get u some easy kills, maybe even demoralise us a little. But they will certainly not lead to us collapsing from within. Nor will they lead to the destruction/loss of our infrastructure.

Any force will be very hard pushed to sustain themselves in our home. Even if thye were to score a higher k/d ratio than us. Were based here, we have everything we need here.
As soon as uve bagged a few kills, ull be well on our radar. Were hardly gonna sit around getting ganked and do nothing about it. As weve proved more than once,we can camp systems for as long as it takes for ppl to get the message.
We wont find it fun, thats for sure. But when were camping ur 5-10 man groups in whilst playing isketch,we will be making sure ur not having fun too.
And soon enough, like all those before u. Ull give up .

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Originally by: SengH

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Originally by: Romulus Maximus

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Honestly, no one wants to see this more than we do!
But ppl need to actually grow some spines and do something.

I cant see anything like this taking place anytime soon tbh. As for the guerilla tactics. They may well get u some easy kills, maybe even demoralise us a little. But they will certainly not lead to us collapsing from within. Nor will they lead to the destruction/loss of our infrastructure.

Any force will be very hard pushed to sustain themselves in our home. Even if thye were to score a higher k/d ratio than us. Were based here, we have everything we need here.
As soon as uve bagged a few kills, ull be well on our radar. Were hardly gonna sit around getting ganked and do nothing about it. As weve proved more than once,we can camp systems for as long as it takes for ppl to get the message.
We wont find it fun, thats for sure. But when were camping ur 5-10 man groups in whilst playing isketch,we will be making sure ur not having fun too.
And soon enough, like all those before u. Ull give up .

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The thing is while you busy camping that 1 corp whose logged of in system. The rest of them are still running around. Anyways the biggest advantage of this tactic is that it would neutralize your information network. Thats your biggest advtangage you have over other alliances, and with this strategy it becomes moot. You can hardly camp every system in 3 regions and if your fighting people who arent bound by morals and use questionable tactics. Life can easily get very nasty.

Its always far easier for 1 person to consume the time of 10 others than it is for the other way around. While you guys are busy camping 1 guy in a system, he's sitting cloaked in a safe probably in class. After a couple weeks, you'll become desensitized to the presence of hostiles and thats when some people start getting ganked.

I'm just providing an actual discussion outside all the alt posts. The thing is this would make the gameplay not fun for anyone and this is a game after all, not real life.

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Originally by: SengH

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However thats assuming all these anti-bob people have half a brain, which from all the forum posts, seem sadly lacking.

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Originally by: Hast

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if someone actually managed to do that, even how unlikely I find it, we would just condense our forces and people into a smaller area wich is easier to defend and then you would either A) have to give up or B) create a fleet and face us head on...

Plus with the way things seem to be working in BoB, admittedly I havent been here very long, I dont think that tactic would work very well in the first place since what would be most likely happen is that we would form similiar sized fleets and then get ready to tango... and just move around catching each of your fleets of guard here and there.

P.S. doesent matter how many stabs you have on when your caught in a interdictor bubble...

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Originally by: Bazman

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Its too much effort to effectively kill an alliance like bob. I'd like to see any group sustain 23/7 blob powered lagfests in order to kill/take the infrastructure of a huge, active alliance. And even if you managed that, good luck holding the territory.

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Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 01/05/2006 15:42:47

Originally by: SengH

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You can actively track down a npcer using the map very quickly. The -1.0 systems are always going to be prime space and the mercoxit/bist/ark systems are easily known. The objective isnt about kills, its about making the space unuseable. You can monitor and observe movement through major routes with key positioning of alts, so you know where to strike.

However thats assuming all these anti-bob people have half a brain, which from all the forum posts, seem sadly lacking.

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i npc in carrier, GL bringing large enought force to delve without.

A) being noticed
B) intercepted
C) gankked by me instead.

i fleet pretty safe to NPC in delve.

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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire

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Let the sleeping BoB lie. BoB is a good thing in this game, they are the narfbat of alliances.

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Edited by: Gronsak on 01/05/2006 22:32:55

Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 01/05/2006 15:42:47

Originally by: SengH

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You can actively track down a npcer using the map very quickly. The -1.0 systems are always going to be prime space and the mercoxit/bist/ark systems are easily known. The objective isnt about kills, its about making the space unuseable. You can monitor and observe movement through major routes with key positioning of alts, so you know where to strike.

However thats assuming all these anti-bob people have half a brain, which from all the forum posts, seem sadly lacking.

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i npc in carrier, GL bringing large enought force to delve without.

A) being noticed
B) intercepted
C) gankked by me instead.

i fleet pretty safe to NPC in delve.

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1: not everyone NPC in a carrier
2: 1 neut BS + support and you will be holding your **** wondering how the **** ur gona explain a carrier loss
3: they dont have to kill you to hurt you, get 5 of your fighters thats 75mil isk down the drain.

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Originally by: IcedBach Jr

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BOB are continuing their "ruin of EVE" campaign.

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Originally by: Kell Memran

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Anyone gettin bored of the big alliances dictating others. Just look at the whole capital ship production thing with TRUST, wel now they hav disbanded. Personally i am, nd BoB always seem to be at the heart of it. So bak the question " Anyone want to take down BoB"

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Originally by: Leitari

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so like... whats this thread about?

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Originally by: Leitari

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so like... whats this thread about?

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Originally by: Mochalatte

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OMG MY NAME IS BOB PLZ LOOK AT ME AND TELL ME IM UBER

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Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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1: HAHA, GL, ill be slapping you 1 BS + support sidways silly, unless its some odd BS+ 5 cruiser and 10 frigs, in what case its not realy anything samll and unoticeble.
And your prolly will be still slapped silly.


2: And honestly, what is the point of this debate?
We had a Digital communist to harass even every twit sitting in a station not to mention the other 100 bored pilots just to waiting something to happen. In my history in Bob, only once did we loose a BS Npceing to a gankksquad.

3: Main core of the bob knows the drill of not being cauched pants down in a belt.
And mind you, while usualy other NPCers usualy SS and log, we dont. We will charge home in your face with utmost fury, and bichslap your silly arses back to where they belong.
We are not your "frendly carebare NPCer", most of us are ex-pirates or seasoned PVPers, never the less. (with exeption of some )

So please, come more often.

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Originally by: Gronsak

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1: 5 deimos/vaga/zealot 5 cepters and one neut apoc and ull be holding ur **** once again. they all warp in, lock you way before you lock them, apoc alligns, zaps 9600 cap from your shiny lil ship. if u agro him he warps out [and all the time your tanking over 4k DPS. apoc warps back, again zap 9600 CAP gone. you would die, it would not take long, your fighters will die. the gankers would laugh at your noob ass

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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Originally by: Gronsak

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1: 5 deimos/vaga/zealot 5 cepters and one neut apoc and ull be holding ur **** once again. they all warp in, lock you way before you lock them, apoc alligns, zaps 9600 cap from your shiny lil ship. if u agro him he warps out [and all the time your tanking over 4k DPS. apoc warps back, again zap 9600 CAP gone. you would die, it would not take long, your fighters will die. the gankers would laugh at your noob ass

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Please bring that squad to delve and try and kill his carrier.

Did you miss the part where he said that you'll have around 100 people undocking to assist or do you think Delve is completely unpopulated and you'll ONLY be fighting against a carrier sitting on it's own with nothing around it at all?

This isn't D2 space.

dbp

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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Originally by: Gronsak

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1: 5 deimos/vaga/zealot 5 cepters and one neut apoc and ull be holding ur **** once again. they all warp in, lock you way before you lock them, apoc alligns, zaps 9600 cap from your shiny lil ship. if u agro him he warps out [and all the time your tanking over 4k DPS. apoc warps back, again zap 9600 CAP gone. you would die, it would not take long, your fighters will die. the gankers would laugh at your noob ass

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Please bring that squad to delve and try and kill his carrier.

Did you miss the part where he said that you'll have around 100 people undocking to assist or do you think Delve is completely unpopulated and you'll ONLY be fighting against a carrier sitting on it's own with nothing around it at all?

This isn't D2 space.

dbp

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he would be dead before you undock

and yeh im sure u got 100+ pvpers just sitting in a station waiting for their buddies crys of help

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Originally by: Boonaki

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Sometimes to get my rocks off I'll sit outside the station in NOL and say "HOSTILE FLEET incomming from *insert alliance here* 36 battleships, 14 HAC's, etc...

You see 20+ people undock instantly in fitted ready to go ships.

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/05/2006 09:18:56
:|

Must be great sitting on the forums saying "rararar, I could do it" without actually having any sort of balls to come try it.

Seriously why don't you rustle up your 7 pilots and come down and see what you can kill.

No?

Thought not :|

Just another loud mouth coward.

dbp

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Originally by: Gronsak

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1: 5 deimos/vaga/zealot 5 cepters and one neut apoc and ull be holding ur **** once again. they all warp in, lock you way before you lock them, apoc alligns, zaps 9600 cap from your shiny lil ship. if u agro him he warps out [and all the time your tanking over 4k DPS. apoc warps back, again zap 9600 CAP gone. you would die, it would not take long, your fighters will die. the gankers would laugh at your noob ass

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Originally by: IcedBach Jr

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BOB are continuing their "ruin of EVE" campaign.

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Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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Originally by: Gronsak

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1: 5 deimos/vaga/zealot 5 cepters and one neut apoc and ull be holding ur **** once again. they all warp in, lock you way before you lock them, apoc alligns, zaps 9600 cap from your shiny lil ship. if u agro him he warps out [and all the time your tanking over 4k DPS. apoc warps back, again zap 9600 CAP gone. you would die, it would not take long, your fighters will die. the gankers would laugh at your noob ass

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hahahah, in your dream world.

But thats ok, i also dreamed once a scenario like this where i took down Tombs titan, it involved 3 ibises and badger.

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Edited by: Gronsak on 02/05/2006 09:59:39
meh nm

you are ubar in that carrier, totally safe, unkillable, and if someone tries you got 100BS waiting to undock!

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Originally by: IcedBach Jr

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BOB are continuing their "ruin of EVE" campaign.

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Originally by: Wuubaa

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Now your taking it to far.

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Originally by: IcedBach Jr

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BOB are continuing their "ruin of EVE" campaign.

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Edited by: Gronsak on 02/05/2006 09:25:37

Originally by: DB Preacher

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Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/05/2006 09:18:56
:|

Must be great sitting on the forums saying "rararar, I could do it" without actually having any sort of balls to come try it.

Seriously why don't you rustle up your 7 pilots and come down and see what you can kill.

No?

Thought not :|

Just another loud mouth coward.

dbp

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i intend to, just busy with rl atm, and u can confirm that with evol pilots who know me in rl

and i dont need 7 pilots ill solo it

and if there was a credable anti bob corp/alliance/ideal id be the first to sign up, i dont want easy ganks or to join the winning side, i want to be the one killing the winning side. like i said its not anything against bob, im always anti winning side

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Originally by: Gronsak

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i intend to, just busy with rl atm, and u can confirm that with evol pilots who know me in rl

and i dont need 7 pilots ill solo it

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Originally by: SalesManager1

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Why are everyone so obsessed with BoB?

Take a look at LV/-V-/Chimp pact. They have now more or less defeated RA. They have like 3k+ pilots together which is almost 3x the pilots of BoB and I am pretty sure they have a decent industrial backup as well. They have been working together a long time for now and if there is anyone who could go up against BoB it is them.

If V/LV/Chimp would start a war against BoB I am pretty sure there will be other alliances which would join them.

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Edited by: Gronsak on 02/05/2006 08:57:53
Edited by: Gronsak on 02/05/2006 08:56:18

Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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1: HAHA, GL, ill be slapping you 1 BS + support sidways silly, unless its some odd BS+ 5 cruiser and 10 frigs, in what case its not realy anything samll and unoticeble.
And your prolly will be still slapped silly.


2: And honestly, what is the point of this debate?
We had a Digital communist to harass even every twit sitting in a station not to mention the other 100 bored pilots just to waiting something to happen. In my history in Bob, only once did we loose a BS Npceing to a gankksquad.

3: Main core of the bob knows the drill of not being cauched pants down in a belt.
And mind you, while usualy other NPCers usualy SS and log, we dont. We will charge home in your face with utmost fury, and bichslap your silly arses back to where they belong.
We are not your "frendly carebare NPCer", most of us are ex-pirates or seasoned PVPers, never the less. (with exeption of some )

So please, come more often.

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1: 5 deimos/vaga/zealot 5 cepters and one neut apoc and ull be holding ur **** once again. they all warp in, lock you way before you lock them, apoc alligns, zaps 9600 cap from your shiny lil ship. if u agro him he warps out [and all the time your tanking over 4k DPS. apoc warps back, again zap 9600 CAP gone. you would die, it would not take long, your fighters will die. the gankers would laugh at your noob ass

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Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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How abaut you take a nice cup of Stop telling factoids, understand?

and...

Gather your "small gankkfleet" and come to prove me wrong in delve.

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Originally by: Gronsak

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your capital ship rat raping guy was the one who proposed his invincibility to attack. i was just pointing out why he is wrong

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Edited by: Gronsak on 02/05/2006 15:23:53

Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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How abaut you take a nice cup of Stop telling factoids, understand?

and...

Gather your "small gankkfleet" and come to prove me wrong in delve.

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quit wasting time on the forums, there is a dual BS spawn in the third belt

go kill it and tell us how uber it makes u feel

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Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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go kill it and tell us how uber it makes u feel

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Originally by: Darko1107

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The Npcer acting all ballsy saying he NPC in a carrier is merely trying to look cool and knows that if sum1 actually jumped into local he would bomb it to a safespot.

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Quote:

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And anyway, if hes got a carrier, hes most likely got an alt, therefore he could just use his alt to kill stuff with the fighters and not have to "Risk" the carrier at all.

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Originally by: BlackRain

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Originally by: Darko1107

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The Npcer acting all ballsy saying he NPC in a carrier is merely trying to look cool and knows that if sum1 actually jumped into local he would bomb it to a safespot.

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You missed the point. We don't have to try to look cool. We are cool. He NPCs in a Carrier because he can and nobody is there to stop him. Everything else is just the same old whiny-whiny-yada-yada.

Quote:

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And anyway, if hes got a carrier, hes most likely got an alt, therefore he could just use his alt to kill stuff with the fighters and not have to "Risk" the carrier at all.

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And this is just another addition to the discussion you yourself already labeled as "pathetic".

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Originally by: Sonos SAGD

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/cue inspiring music


Good morning. In less than an hour, battleships and capital ships from here will join others from around the galaxy. And you will be launching the largest space battle in this history of mankind.

Mankind -- that word should have new meaning for all of us today.


We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore.

We will be united in our common interests.


Perhaps its fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution -- but from annihilation.

We're fighting for our right to live, to exist.

And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an Eve holiday, but as the day when the galaxy declared in one voice:

"We will not go quietly into the night!

We will not vanish without a fight!

We're going to live on!

We're going to survive!"

Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Originally by: BlackRain

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Originally by: Darko1107

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The Npcer acting all ballsy saying he NPC in a carrier is merely trying to look cool and knows that if sum1 actually jumped into local he would bomb it to a safespot.

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You missed the point. We don't have to try to look cool. We are cool. He NPCs in a Carrier because he can and nobody is there to stop him. Everything else is just the same old whiny-whiny-yada-yada.

Quote:

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And anyway, if hes got a carrier, hes most likely got an alt, therefore he could just use his alt to kill stuff with the fighters and not have to "Risk" the carrier at all.

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And this is just another addition to the discussion you yourself already labeled as "pathetic".

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Then Freelancer alliance are also just as cool as you because they used to NPC in carriers up in DEKLIEN, and that was much less secure, actually i think that makes them cooler.

Thats in no way an addition either, merely stating that this "fight" between carrier and ganksquad would be none existent because bob pilots that can pilot carriers arent complete noobs that get ganked in belts.

Im whining? www.dictionary.com.

If i was whining, there would be alot of caps and alot of swearing.

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Originally by: BlackRain

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Originally by: Darko1107

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The Npcer acting all ballsy saying he NPC in a carrier is merely trying to look cool and knows that if sum1 actually jumped into local he would bomb it to a safespot.

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You missed the point. We don't have to try to look cool. We are cool. He NPCs in a Carrier because he can and nobody is there to stop him. Everything else is just the same old whiny-whiny-yada-yada.

Quote:

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And anyway, if hes got a carrier, hes most likely got an alt, therefore he could just use his alt to kill stuff with the fighters and not have to "Risk" the carrier at all.

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And this is just another addition to the discussion you yourself already labeled as "pathetic".

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Then Freelancer alliance are also just as cool as you because they used to NPC in carriers up in DEKLIEN, and that was much less secure, actually i think that makes them cooler.

Thats in no way an addition either, merely stating that this "fight" between carrier and ganksquad would be none existent because bob pilots that can pilot carriers arent complete noobs that get ganked in belts.

Im whining? www.dictionary.com.

If i was whining, there would be alot of caps and alot of swearing.

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No you are not whinning, you are just another BoB Fanboi...

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Originally by: BlackRain

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Originally by: Darko1107

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The Npcer acting all ballsy saying he NPC in a carrier is merely trying to look cool and knows that if sum1 actually jumped into local he would bomb it to a safespot.

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You missed the point. We don't have to try to look cool. We are cool. He NPCs in a Carrier because he can and nobody is there to stop him. Everything else is just the same old whiny-whiny-yada-yada.

Quote:

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And anyway, if hes got a carrier, hes most likely got an alt, therefore he could just use his alt to kill stuff with the fighters and not have to "Risk" the carrier at all.

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And this is just another addition to the discussion you yourself already labeled as "pathetic".

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Then Freelancer alliance are also just as cool as you because they used to NPC in carriers up in DEKLIEN, and that was much less secure, actually i think that makes them cooler.

Thats in no way an addition either, merely stating that this "fight" between carrier and ganksquad would be none existent because bob pilots that can pilot carriers arent complete noobs that get ganked in belts.

Im whining? www.dictionary.com.

If i was whining, there would be alot of caps and alot of swearing.

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No you are not whinning, you are just another BoB Fanboi...

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I cant be :(. Im not cool enough to be able to spell boy with an I :(.

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 02/05/2006 16:22:04
Wow

I think i have my own Fanboi. Whereever i go u follow me and seem to have some sort of a personal vendetta against me. I didnt get kicked, i left, and last i knew, bob fanbois have a personal vendetta against them, whereas i love bob, just not some of thier members.

Get off my case, noob.

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 02/05/2006 16:22:04
Wow

I think i have my own Fanboi. Whereever i go u follow me and seem to have some sort of a personal vendetta against me. I didnt get kicked, i left, and last i knew, bob fanbois have a personal vendetta against them, whereas i love bob, just not some of thier members.

Get off my case, noob.

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Whatever kid...unless you wanna prove me a noob put where your mouth is, otherwise run along Fanboi, yes its a I not a Y Mr. Smartass.

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 02/05/2006 16:31:02

Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 02/05/2006 16:22:04
Wow

I think i have my own Fanboi. Whereever i go u follow me and seem to have some sort of a personal vendetta against me. I didnt get kicked, i left, and last i knew, bob fanbois have a personal vendetta against them, whereas i love bob, just not some of thier members.

Get off my case, noob.

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Whatever kid...unless you wanna prove me a noob put where your mouth is, otherwise run along Fanboi, yes its a I not a Y Mr. Smartass.

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Call me "Kid" when you actually know nothing about me. You think your better than me telling me to "run along" and making no sense by saying "put where your mouth is". (Edited now, and i will, bring it to me, seing as your so godly.)

Evident from your relentless personal posts lacking any counter-arguement, there is only 1 "kid" in this thread.

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 02/05/2006 16:31:02

Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 02/05/2006 16:22:04
Wow

I think i have my own Fanboi. Whereever i go u follow me and seem to have some sort of a personal vendetta against me. I didnt get kicked, i left, and last i knew, bob fanbois have a personal vendetta against them, whereas i love bob, just not some of thier members.

Get off my case, noob.

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Whatever kid...unless you wanna prove me a noob put where your mouth is, otherwise run along Fanboi, yes its a I not a Y Mr. Smartass.

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Call me "Kid" when you actually know nothing about me. You think your better than me telling me to "run along" and making no sense by saying "put where your mouth is". (Edited now, and i will, bring it to me, seing as your so godly.)

Evident from your relentless personal posts lacking any counter-arguement, there is only 1 "kid" in this thread.

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Yes you are a kid. Unless you want to keep replying and arguing about it on this forum. And yes i am having a go at you, cos i am bored and you are easy to annoy..

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 02/05/2006 16:38:05

Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 02/05/2006 16:31:02

Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 02/05/2006 16:22:04
Wow

I think i have my own Fanboi. Whereever i go u follow me and seem to have some sort of a personal vendetta against me. I didnt get kicked, i left, and last i knew, bob fanbois have a personal vendetta against them, whereas i love bob, just not some of thier members.

Get off my case, noob.

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Whatever kid...unless you wanna prove me a noob put where your mouth is, otherwise run along Fanboi, yes its a I not a Y Mr. Smartass.

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Call me "Kid" when you actually know nothing about me. You think your better than me telling me to "run along" and making no sense by saying "put where your mouth is". (Edited now, and i will, bring it to me, seing as your so godly.)

Evident from your relentless personal posts lacking any counter-arguement, there is only 1 "kid" in this thread.

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Yes you are a kid. Unless you want to keep replying and arguing about it on this forum. And yes i am having a go at you, cos i am bored and you are easy to annoy..

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Again, annoyied = swearing + capslock. Now that youve lost the arguement your putting it down to just trying to "annoy me".

Game Set and match.

New balls please (Avancade clearly needs them).

Bye

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Edited by: AvanCade on 02/05/2006 16:26:56

Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 02/05/2006 16:22:04
Wow

I think i have my own Fanboi. Whereever i go u follow me and seem to have some sort of a personal vendetta against me. I didnt get kicked, i left, and last i knew, bob fanbois have a personal vendetta against them, whereas i love bob, just not some of thier members.

Get off my case, noob.

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Whatever kid...unless you wanna prove me a noob put your guns where your mouth is, otherwise run along Fanboi, yes its a I not a Y Mr. Smartass.

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Nope if you read carefully, there was never an argument between you and me with regards to this thread. Read carefully and you will see how you got annoyed. I have the balls if you wanna bring it to the battefield kiddo.

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Originally by: Gronsak

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like i said ill accept a 1v1 with you, now question is do you got the balls

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Edited by: Gronsak on 02/05/2006 16:44:12

Originally by: AvanCade

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Edited by: AvanCade on 02/05/2006 16:26:56

Originally by: Darko1107

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Edited by: Darko1107 on 02/05/2006 16:22:04
Wow

I think i have my own Fanboi. Whereever i go u follow me and seem to have some sort of a personal vendetta against me. I didnt get kicked, i left, and last i knew, bob fanbois have a personal vendetta against them, whereas i love bob, just not some of thier members.

Get off my case, noob.

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Whatever kid...unless you wanna prove me a noob put your guns where your mouth is, otherwise run along Fanboi, yes its a I not a Y Mr. Smartass.

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ill accept, convo me ingame to arrange a 1vs1. if im not online send a mail

Originally by: AvanCade

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Nope if you read carefully, there was never an argument between you and me with regards to this thread. Read carefully and you will see how you got annoyed. I have the balls if you wanna bring it to the battefield kiddo.

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like i said ill accept a 1v1 with you, now question is do you got the balls

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Originally by: AvanCade

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You know where to find me, 1v1 is something i do not turn down, just name the place. But it has to be close to delve as high sec is not an option

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Edited by: Gronsak on 02/05/2006 16:48:29

Originally by: AvanCade

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You know where to find me, 1v1 is something i do not turn down, just name the place. But it has to be close to delve as high sec is not an option

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gd gd , ill convo u now

edit: ur offline, ill convo u next i see you online, or mail me....

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Edited by: Gronsak on 02/05/2006 16:48:29

Originally by: AvanCade

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You know where to find me, 1v1 is something i do not turn down, just name the place. But it has to be close to delve as high sec is not an option

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gd gd , ill convo u now

edit: ur offline, ill convo u next i see you online, or mail me....

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Nope i am not online, i am at work evemail me ship type you want and location.

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Edited by: AvanCade on 02/05/2006 17:03:35
Btw Gronsak Battlecruiser Vs Battlecruiser

This Sunday 7th May after dt in Sakht...No jammers and no wcs.
Let me know here. Thats when i can play online

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Yeah BS sounds good...no nosing and tanking bull****, takes too f*****g long. Proper setup and lets have it. Either i die or not it will be on hell of a fight

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Edited by: AvanCade on 02/05/2006 17:03:35
Btw Gronsak Battlecruiser Vs Battlecruiser

This Sunday 7th May after dt in Sakht...No jammers and no wcs.
Let me know here. Thats when i can play online

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i dont do battle crusiers mate, i have the skill on lvl 2

i sent u a mail saying BS vs BS. but if u dont do BS i dont mind downgrading to cruiser [but then its kinda **** since the other guy barly looses anyhting!]

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Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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stuff

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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stuff

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fyi your next

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Edited by: Gronsak on 02/05/2006 17:16:39

Originally by: AvanCade

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Yeah BS sounds good...no nosing and tanking bull****, takes too f*****g long. Proper setup and lets have it. Either i die or not it will be on hell of a fight

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no nosing is cool with me,
but no tanking? WTF? that doesnt even make sense! i never herd the no tank rule in 1vs1 . anyways this is public forums, the rest of the 1vs1 can be arranged over pm or mails.

just mail me when u get online!

edit: within 20km warp desrupter range pls

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Originally by: Boonaki

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Yeah I don't get the no tanking thing.

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Boonaki

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Yeah I don't get the no tanking thing.

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Meh me neither

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Edited by: Gronsak on 02/05/2006 17:42:12

Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Boonaki

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Yeah I don't get the no tanking thing.

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Meh me neither

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read your mail when u log on.......

your system choice is stupid, we will do this in a different system, there is no need apart from trying to cheat a 1vs1 that it should be held in a 0.0 where ur buddies live

just read your mail when u log on...

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Gronsak

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Edited by: Gronsak on 02/05/2006 17:42:12

Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: Boonaki

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Yeah I don't get the no tanking thing.

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Meh me neither

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read your mail when u log on.......

your system choice is stupid, we will do this in a different system, there is no need apart from trying to cheat a 1vs1 that it should be held in a 0.0 where ur buddies live

just read your mail when u log on...

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My system choice is fine, and if you think i gonna cheat then thats your mistake. My sec status does not allow me to go to high sec system. Remember you asked for the 1v1, either you have it in sakht or not..cos i aint traveling 20 jumps to 1v1 you. Cos i could say the same for you blah blah blah...think about it and let me know.

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Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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Oh and if you want 1 vs 1 with me, i think you will soil your pants when i bring my combat char to fight you.. hes guite a name ;)

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Originally by: Tush Pa

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Blobing and ganking does eventually get tiresome, even for those guys.

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Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 02/05/2006 18:04:13
So whats exaktly the rules of this e-peen measurment?

No EW?

T2 ammo allowed?

What abaut faction fittings? I ashure you bob has no shorttage of that.


i want a fair 1vs1 not me vs bob alliance, if your man enough to keep this 1v1 [and its gona look stupid if u turn it down now] we can pick a system agreeable to both of us, anyways like i said, jsut reply to your mails or comvo me ingame!


If you dont trust bob enought to keep 1 vs 1 honor when they publickly agreed with you, how come you propose 1 vs 1 in first plase?

or are you chikkening out? In space no one can hear you cluck....

Oh and if you want 1 vs 1 with me, i think you will soil your pants when i bring my combat char to fight you.. hes guite a name ;)

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Originally by: Kell Memran

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Anyone gettin bored of the big alliances dictating others. Just look at the whole capital ship production thing with TRUST, wel now they hav disbanded. Personally i am, nd BoB always seem to be at the heart of it. So bak the question " Anyone want to take down BoB"

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Originally by: AvanCade

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WTF, you ask me a 1v1 i agree, somewhere along the line i talked **** about tank, yes i agree i realise how silly it was after saying.
But dude, i am not traveling 20j's to 1v1 you, which you asked for, and no i am not gonna look stupid turning it down.

You either come to sakht which i have openly stated in public forums, or don't and btw i honour my 1v1's...calling me a cheater is like calling a liar...and i don't like idiots calling me a liar...have some respect.

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