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Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 4039	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:23:00 - [31] - Quote I mean, Remiel's freaking FAMILY is threatened, but you buttmad white knights are just fine with that, because pixels being lost and hurt feelings are so much more freaking important. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Veil Alland Thalmorian Initiative 2	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:24:00 - [32] - Quote When a Griefer decides to quit out of frustration from this game because suddenly his acts turned out to have consequences... I feel no sympathy. Good you finally felt the reality-check hammer. Unfortunate for you, accept the fact that the things you do does have consequences, in game or out of game. Accept the fact that you unluckily stepped on somebody that happened to be more dangerous, have more talent and have more notorious resources than you. You should have thought about that when you took on the Griefing Career (a job that mentally harms other players for a living/fun?). So yeah think about it, some things in this world that if you bite 'em can REALLY mess you up. I'm relieved. Wow, didn't know that could happen. Wish griefers cry and quit more often like this. Griefer tears are the best tears
Shizuken Venerated Stars 255	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:25:00 - [33] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: My heart goes out to the ISD who are going to have a busy weekend with the ocean of tears coming their way. I know right. Even carebears don't cry this much on the forums...
Darkopus State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:25:00 - [34] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Darkopus wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Justice that is not enforced equally and objectively, is not justice at all. QQ CCP's gaf, CCP's rules don't like it then quit, You sign your 1248, you get your gear, and you take a stroll down washout lane............... Did you read the OP at all? Apparently singing gummy bear songs and reading wikipedia entries is bad juju. Perma ban. But sending someone out of game threatening emails, and making fun of them having autism is A-OK, apparently. No CCP clearly stated that you call the law. I beleive CCP guard stated that in his post in the sticky. If its IRL threatening the law / police in the country where you live will be on your side and much more of an ally than a games development company.
Xavier Holtzman Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension 106	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:25:00 - [35] - Quote This has been the best tear fest in a long time. Let the butthurt flow.... -x
Erica Dusette Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate 5271	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:25:00 - [36] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Erica Dusette wrote: If I quit every game where I disagreed with an official decision at some point then I may as well just sell my laptop. Last night there were a ton of folks from one side of the discussion posting their intentions of leaving. Now today people on the other side want to quit. It's silly to think every rule, every ban, every precedent will be to your satisfaction. It just is what it is. Just keep enjoying the game. Read the link he sent. It's not about who won and who lost. It's the fact that they've outright proved that there are two standards, two different sets of rules now. It really doesn't interest me. I play EVE because I enjoy certain facets of it. None of which are really impacted by, or related to, this whole issue. But I'm still a member of the community and enjoy having input from my own perspective. I was of the opinion that this issue did go a bit far, but was on the fence as to whether it should merit bans. I'm happy that CCP obviously took it seriously enough to meet and brainstorm it. They made a decision and they acted on it for everyone's best interests. Whichever way that decision went it shows they take their community seriously. That's more important in the long term than any ban and resulting debate imo. Anything more is a matter between those effected and CCP. Back to playing homicidal space Barbie for me. -áGÖí-á-á-áMajor (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia Gÿá -á Sky Fighters \| Just an innocent explorer! pâä Sith1s Spectre: "Here at Sky Fighters we respect quality forum PvPers."
Muestereate Minions LLC 259	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:25:00 - [37] - Quote [quote=Remiel Pollard]I know you're going to lock this. I know you might even ban me. But you have it on record that I've already unsubbed my account and transferred my assets away, so go for it. Because it won't happen before this gets out. http://remielpollardlives.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/temporary-close.html Farewell, fare EVE. I love this game, but there was no other choice I could have made that I would have been able to live with.[/quote Bye Remiel, I think on many points we differed but I enjoyed our modest polite discourse. I would hope and imagine that having differences was not a bad aquaintencing either. Best wishes, All my accounts are unsubbed too but they'll take a while but until then... Wish we would have crossed paths sooner
Sturmwolke 531	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:28:00 - [38] - Quote No, in truth, the shame is on you, sir. Take breather, go out and do a self reflection. Perhaps you may regain some common sense. Bye.
Zappity Stay Frosty. A Band Apart. 911	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:29:00 - [39] - Quote Space Juden wrote: So much buttpain on the forums today Listen, I think that CCP took the correct action regarding Erotica 1 and have said as much in the threads. This is related in the way external 'evidence', be it a soundcloud file or an email trail, is treated. I'm guessing you did not read through the link in the OP. I would probably react similarly tbh. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
Tear Jar The Conference Elite CODE. 57	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:29:00 - [40] - Quote This one really bothers me. I generally don't think CCP should get involved in third party sites. However, Doxing is arguably the worst thing you can do in game. Thats going after the person behind the keyboard hard. If CCP is saying they won't get involved in doxing on third party sites, then tehy shouldn't get involved in anything on 3rd party sites. What this shows is that CCP will just do whatever is easiest. Policing 3rd party sites is normally hard, so they won't do it. If enough drama is created, they will do it, because drama makes things hard.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 361	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:31:00 - [41] - Quote IN BEFORE THE LOCK
Darkopus State War Academy Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:32:00 - [42] - Quote LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: IN BEFORE THE LOCK and before the tears ruin the paintwork..........
Tear Jar The Conference Elite CODE. 57	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:33:00 - [43] - Quote Darkopus wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Darkopus wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Justice that is not enforced equally and objectively, is not justice at all. QQ CCP's gaf, CCP's rules don't like it then quit, You sign your 1248, you get your gear, and you take a stroll down washout lane............... Did you read the OP at all? Apparently singing gummy bear songs and reading wikipedia entries is bad juju. Perma ban. But sending someone out of game threatening emails, and making fun of them having autism is A-OK, apparently. No CCP clearly stated that you call the law. I beleive CCP guard stated that in his post in the sticky. If its IRL threatening the law / police in the country where you live will be on your side and much more of an ally than a games development company. Eve is an international game and the legality of doxing is dubious. The local police likely won't do anything, because the threats are fairly low level and its expensive to track down and prosecute the offender. What you would need to do is go to court yourself and subpeona CCP for this guys personal information. Best case, he live in the same country as you and you can figure out if he is breaking any local laws. Then you bring this to court and request a court order preventing the guy from revealing your identity. This is expensive and timeconsuming though.
Eternus8lux8lucis Journies End 224	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:34:00 - [44] - Quote Darkopus wrote: LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: IN BEFORE THE LOCK and before the tears ruin the paintwork.......... Oh theyre flowing like Niagra Falls already and they wont stop anytime soon. My basement is flooded already. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak. http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace
Erica Dusette Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate 5272	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:34:00 - [45] - Quote Tear Jar wrote: This one really bothers me. I generally don't think CCP should get involved in third party sites. However, Doxing is arguably the worst thing you can do in game. Thats going after the person behind the keyboard hard. If CCP is saying they won't get involved in doxing on third party sites, then tehy shouldn't get involved in anything on 3rd party sites. What this shows is that CCP will just do whatever is easiest. Policing 3rd party sites is normally hard, so they won't do it. If enough drama is created, they will do it, because drama makes things hard. Games and their community's change and evolve like anything else. Plus of course each issue of this "type" would be really unique. I think it's unfair to think rules and the way they're applied won't also change and evolve along with their community, and all the different cases that pop up within it, over time. -áGÖí-á-á-áMajor (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia Gÿá -á Sky Fighters \| Just an innocent explorer! pâä Sith1s Spectre: "Here at Sky Fighters we respect quality forum PvPers."
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 4608	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:37:00 - [46] - Quote My portrait's kind of fuzzy and soft focus, yet everyone elses is nice and crisp. What's that all about? Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 4040	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:37:00 - [47] - Quote Veil Alland wrote: When a Griefer decides to quit out of frustration from this game because suddenly his acts turned out to have consequences... I feel no sympathy. Good you finally felt the reality-check hammer. Unfortunate for you, accept the fact that the things you do does have consequences, in game or out of game. Accept the fact that you unluckily stepped on somebody that happened to be more dangerous, have more talent and have more notorious resources than you. You should have thought about that when you took on the Griefing Career (a job that mentally harms other players for a living/fun?). So yeah think about it, some things in this world that if you bite 'em can REALLY mess you up. I'm relieved. Wow, didn't know that could happen. Wish griefers cry and quit more often like this. Griefer tears are the best tears You're happy his family is being stalked? Seriously, this is why I hate you carebear *****. You all seem to think that you're "good" just because you're spineless cowards. But you won't hesitate to celebrate when real people are hurt and in danger, you cheer because the bad man took away your pixels. Disgusting. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Klymer Hedion University Amarr Empire 522	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:37:00 - [48] - Quote I read OP's blog. Like the part in the evegate mail where he calls the leader of the Marmite's Alliance an illiterate child. Especially since he had just written a paragraph about how one shouldn't discriminate against persons with a mental disability and that it's is a bannable offense.
IDGAD The Scope Gallente Federation 95	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:39:00 - [49] - Quote lol erotica 1 finally got permabanned? It's about time. There is a difference from being a ** by blowing up highsec barges or stupid ** like AFK cloak camping, and purposely doing things that are trying to get people to quit the game out of being a total toolbag. The sad thing is it's hard to make the distinction between someone who just wants to watch the other person burn vs who wants to see the game burn and die. The latter of which need to get the swift boot and back to /b with them.
Tear Jar The Conference Elite CODE. 58	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:40:00 - [50] - Quote Erica Dusette wrote: Tear Jar wrote: This one really bothers me. I generally don't think CCP should get involved in third party sites. However, Doxing is arguably the worst thing you can do in game. Thats going after the person behind the keyboard hard. If CCP is saying they won't get involved in doxing on third party sites, then tehy shouldn't get involved in anything on 3rd party sites. What this shows is that CCP will just do whatever is easiest. Policing 3rd party sites is normally hard, so they won't do it. If enough drama is created, they will do it, because drama makes things hard. Games and their community's change and evolve like anything else. Plus of course each issue of this "type" would be really unique. I think it's unfair to think rules and the way they're applied won't also change and evolve along with their community, and all the different cases that pop up within it, over time. At its core though, the issue is that CCP has proven that if you stir up enough drama, than anything in the grey area will get you banned. I am betting that if we make a big enough issue of the doxing, these guys will get banned too. Personally, I think this is bad for the game and that CCP is taking an easy, but self destructive, path.
Darkopus State War Academy Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:41:00 - [51] - Quote Tear Jar wrote: Erica Dusette wrote: Tear Jar wrote: This one really bothers me. I generally don't think CCP should get involved in third party sites. However, Doxing is arguably the worst thing you can do in game. Thats going after the person behind the keyboard hard. If CCP is saying they won't get involved in doxing on third party sites, then tehy shouldn't get involved in anything on 3rd party sites. What this shows is that CCP will just do whatever is easiest. Policing 3rd party sites is normally hard, so they won't do it. If enough drama is created, they will do it, because drama makes things hard. Games and their community's change and evolve like anything else. Plus of course each issue of this "type" would be really unique. I think it's unfair to think rules and the way they're applied won't also change and evolve along with their community, and all the different cases that pop up within it, over time. At its core though, the issue is that CCP has proven that if you stir up enough drama, than anything in the grey area will get you banned. I am betting that if we make a big enough issue of the doxing, these guys will get banned too. Personally, I think this is bad for the game and that CCP is taking an easy, but self destructive, path. no, bottom line is if you act like a sociopathic bell end CCP will flush your arse and thats a good thing
Shizuken Venerated Stars 259	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:42:00 - [52] - Quote Klymer wrote: I read OP's blog. Like the part in the evegate mail where he calls the leader of the Marmite's Alliance an illiterate child. Especially since he had just written a paragraph about how one shouldn't discriminate against persons with a mental disability and that it's is a bannable offense. You will find that antisocials OFTEN change their stance for whatever best suits them at that very moment. They are skilled manipulators, which in turn requires frequent lying.
Shizuken Venerated Stars 259	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:43:00 - [53] - Quote Tear Jar wrote: anything in the grey area There was no "grey area" here. It was pretty obvious to most of us that it was way over the line.
Tear Jar The Conference Elite CODE. 58	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:45:00 - [54] - Quote Darkopus wrote: Tear Jar wrote: Erica Dusette wrote: Tear Jar wrote: This one really bothers me. I generally don't think CCP should get involved in third party sites. However, Doxing is arguably the worst thing you can do in game. Thats going after the person behind the keyboard hard. If CCP is saying they won't get involved in doxing on third party sites, then tehy shouldn't get involved in anything on 3rd party sites. What this shows is that CCP will just do whatever is easiest. Policing 3rd party sites is normally hard, so they won't do it. If enough drama is created, they will do it, because drama makes things hard. Games and their community's change and evolve like anything else. Plus of course each issue of this "type" would be really unique. I think it's unfair to think rules and the way they're applied won't also change and evolve along with their community, and all the different cases that pop up within it, over time. At its core though, the issue is that CCP has proven that if you stir up enough drama, than anything in the grey area will get you banned. I am betting that if we make a big enough issue of the doxing, these guys will get banned too. Personally, I think this is bad for the game and that CCP is taking an easy, but self destructive, path. no, bottom line is if you act like a sociopathic bell end CCP will flush your arse and thats a good thing 1. If that were the case, then the guy doxxing someone else would be banned. 2. If Erotica1's behavior was enough to get him banned, it would have happened months ago. CCP has known about the bonus room for a while. He got banned because of the drama.
Darkopus State War Academy Caldari State 7	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:46:00 - [55] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Veil Alland wrote: When a Griefer decides to quit out of frustration from this game because suddenly his acts turned out to have consequences... I feel no sympathy. Good you finally felt the reality-check hammer. Unfortunate for you, accept the fact that the things you do does have consequences, in game or out of game. Accept the fact that you unluckily stepped on somebody that happened to be more dangerous, have more talent and have more notorious resources than you. You should have thought about that when you took on the Griefing Career (a job that mentally harms other players for a living/fun?). So yeah think about it, some things in this world that if you bite 'em can REALLY mess you up. I'm relieved. Wow, didn't know that could happen. Wish griefers cry and quit more often like this. Griefer tears are the best tears You're happy his family is being stalked? Seriously, this is why I hate you carebear *****. You all seem to think that you're "good" just because you're spineless cowards. But you won't hesitate to celebrate when real people are hurt and in danger, you cheer because the bad man took away your pixels. Disgusting. no... they cheer because today a sociopathic misfit was ejected from EVE for the betterment of all................
Matthew Clearwater Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:46:00 - [56] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Veil Alland wrote: When a Griefer decides to quit out of frustration from this game because suddenly his acts turned out to have consequences... I feel no sympathy. Good you finally felt the reality-check hammer. Unfortunate for you, accept the fact that the things you do does have consequences, in game or out of game. Accept the fact that you unluckily stepped on somebody that happened to be more dangerous, have more talent and have more notorious resources than you. You should have thought about that when you took on the Griefing Career (a job that mentally harms other players for a living/fun?). So yeah think about it, some things in this world that if you bite 'em can REALLY mess you up. I'm relieved. Wow, didn't know that could happen. Wish griefers cry and quit more often like this. Griefer tears are the best tears You're happy his family is being stalked? Seriously, this is why I hate you carebear *****. You all seem to think that you're "good" just because you're spineless cowards. But you won't hesitate to celebrate when real people are hurt and in danger, you cheer because the bad man took away your pixels. Disgusting. And yet you guys seem to get a kick out of trying to get someone to commit suicide.
Tear Jar The Conference Elite CODE. 58	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:47:00 - [57] - Quote Shizuken wrote: Tear Jar wrote: anything in the grey area There was no "grey area" here. It was pretty obvious to most of us that it was way over the line. Then why wasn't he banned months ago? The bonus room isn't new. Erotica1 has been uploading bonus room records for months and he has been reported several times before.
One Eyed Runner Caldari Naval Auxiliary Services 25	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:48:00 - [58] - Quote Tear Jar wrote: [quote=Darkopus][quote=Tear Jar][quote=Erica Dusette][quote=Tear Jar] ~ snip ~~ 2. If Erotica1's behavior was enough to get him banned, it would have happened months ago. CCP has known about the bonus room for a while. He got banned because of the drama. He wasn't really banned In Jita tonite [03:44:41] Erotica 2 > Eve's only legitiment ISK doubler! This is not charity but a business that is funded by those who cannot follow these simple rules. Give it a try! The rumours are true, but I'm back baby! *I live in Jita so fck off**
Mario Putzo Welping and Dunking. 833	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:48:00 - [59] - Quote Doesn't count that isn't a Jester Trek blog. Sorry.
Catherine Wolfisheim Born Crazy 8	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:49:00 - [60] - Quote Tear Jar wrote: Then why wasn't he banned months ago? The bonus room isn't new. Erotica1 has been uploading bonus room records for months and he has been reported several times before. Who knows? Perhaps because the issue reached a certain amount of popularity, and the effects of it have been exposed, and at the same time people who didn't think things could get down to this are trying to fix the bleeding wounds by licking.

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