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EI Digin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 1953	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:26:00 - [121] - Quote Didn't take that long for another CCP knee-jerk reaction to backfire completely.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 364	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:27:00 - [122] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: tears...Luminous Spirit is the worst kind of scum.... tears MOAR TEARS!! Ok Im just baiting now, I'll stop. It is hilarious though how rear-hurt Erotica 1's fanboys are. Listen to the interview with Jester, it clears up why Erotica was banned. http://www.capstable.net/2014/03/28/cap-booster-episode-10-a-discussion-on-erotica1/
Kyperion 169	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:27:00 - [123] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: Lazrim wrote: The only reason EVE makes the news is because of EVE's heretofore fine balance between griefers (to includes non-consensual PVP all the way to Ero1 antics) and carebears. Sorry, I can't hear you over the echoes of B-R5RB bouncing off the front page of newspapers. This, so much this. Nobody gives a damn about EVE because of griefers... They come to check it out because of the huge enormous slow ass battles, and then stick around because its pretty.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 4073	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:28:00 - [124] - Quote EI Digin wrote: Didn't take that long for another CCP knee-jerk reaction to backfire completely. Between this and the New Terms of Service "you can be banned for impersonating yourself" fiasco, (which can still be easily interpreted as banning many kinds of scams), I have seen a running thread of Trammel throughout the game in the last year. This is highly bothersome. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 364	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:30:00 - [125] - Quote Kyperion wrote: Quotes and post references please. I said the way to deal with bullies is to kick their stuff in. Works 100% of the time and I stand by my opinion 100%. I am guessing this Erotica 1's fanboy was taught this lesson in real life, thats why the rear-hurt reaction.
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 10920	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:32:00 - [126] - Quote LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: baltec1 wrote: tears baltec. Erotica 1 was banned. Permanently. Deal with it. Or leave. I would like this victim banned for clear breaches of the EULA for harrasment under racial aggression and real life death threats. I would also like the posters in the old thread who also stated their suppert fot RL violence to also be banned for breaching the EULA. If CCP are going to ban ero over this then they have to uphold the EULA rules for eveyone. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 4073	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:34:00 - [127] - Quote baltec1 wrote: LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: baltec1 wrote: tears baltec. Erotica 1 was banned. Permanently. Deal with it. Or leave. I would like this victim banned for clear breaches of the EULA for harrasment under racial aggression and real life death threats. I would also like the posters in the old thread who also stated their suppert fot RL violence to also be banned for breaching the EULA. If CCP are going to ban ero over this then they have to uphold the EULA rules for eveyone. Because if the EULA doesn't apply equally to everybody, then why is it there at all? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 1401	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:35:00 - [128] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4406574#post4406574 Read that, then move on.
Antisocial Malkavian Antisocial Malkavians 406	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:36:00 - [129] - Quote baltec1 wrote: LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: baltec1 wrote: tears baltec. Erotica 1 was banned. Permanently. Deal with it. Or leave. I would like this victim banned for clear breaches of the EULA for harrasment under racial aggression and real life death threats. I would also like the posters in the old thread who also stated their suppert fot RL violence to also be banned for breaching the EULA. If CCP are going to ban ero over this then they have to uphold the EULA rules for eveyone. The victim was omn eve radio where he admitted he should be banned. Give him what he deserves/wants http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears you will be harvested
Glathull Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 385	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:39:00 - [130] - Quote It's amazing to me how so many different people either do or do not get punished for crossing or not crossing a line that has always been very wide and very fuzzy and always left to the discretion of CCP. It's as though literally nothing has changed at all. To repeat, the skill split is scheduled for the big Summer 2013 expansion. ~CCP Fozzie

EI Digin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 1954	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:39:00 - [131] - Quote Pak Narhoo wrote: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4406574#post4406574 Read that, then move on. How about instead we manufacture a bunch of outrage and paste this much worse story with IRL consequences all over the internet? Will the OP then get his way?
LUMINOUS SPIRIT The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 364	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:39:00 - [132] - Quote baltec1 wrote: LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: baltec1 wrote: tears baltec. Erotica 1 was banned. Permanently. Deal with it. Or leave. I would like this victim banned for clear breaches of the EULA for harrasment under racial aggression and real life death threats. I would also like the posters in the old thread who also stated their suppert fot RL violence to also be banned for breaching the EULA. If CCP are going to ban ero over this then they have to uphold the EULA rules for eveyone. You misspelled the word 'harassment'. You misspelled the word 'support'. You misspelled the word 'everyone'. I am guessing, you would like to learn how to write first.
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 5116	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:40:00 - [133] - Quote I Riven I wrote: We are not able to take anything from any third parties as evidences to accuse any players. Best Regards, GM Eskimo CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| Dust 514 Goes to see the lack of integrity in CCP nowadays. It goes to show that CCP knows how fine the line is, and exactly where to cut. It also goes to show that they understand the importance of collecting evidence correctly. Just because the decision is not in your favour doesn't mean it's wrong. Now if Remiel's story can be backed up by EVE Online server logs in any way, shape or form (for example, they'll see the email exchanges between the two characters) they might have some way to start digging for more evidence. If it turns out that Remiel and his "attacker" know each other IRL, and the out-of-game mail was a chiding remark from a friend (i.e.: "don't do anything that your family would be ashamed of"), then Remiel has no case. if ti turns out that the attacker actually did dig up a lot of information about Remiel and then sent him that "make your sister proud" message as a subtle threat, then I'd expect the real world law enforcement to get involved. For the moment, I don't see enough to distinguish between a guy who is butt-hurt putting together a "pity me" story and claiming he's leaving EVE, versus someone who is leaving EVE because a genuine grievance has been dismissed by both CCP and real world law enforcement. His emotional "burn all the bridges" approach could equally be explained by someone who is under duress from real world threats seeing CCP fobbing him off, or someone who is having a dummy spit because he feels his style of gameplay is being threatened. In the former case, I'd do everything I could to help. In the latter case, I'll tell him to cry on Dinsdale's shoulder since they deserve each other's company. Without more information, I can't really form an opinion on the matter, though I tend towards the opinion that Remiel's just having a laugh at our expense because that's what a CODE enforcer would do. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 5116	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:42:00 - [134] - Quote Antisocial Malkavian wrote: Paul Chung wrote: I'm confused. Was the 'discrimination' actually bannable? That being said, no matter how much you hate someone for blowing up your favorite internet space ship, it is NEVER ok to threaten someone in real life over a video game. Period. Assuming it wasn't a made up e-mail, you have my sympathies Remiel. Like Sokhar did when he got pissed off you mean? The rest of us can see a difference between a guy at the end of his tether lashing out from emotional anguish, and a cool, calm, collected con man who has run this many times with significant premeditation. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 10921	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:44:00 - [135] - Quote LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: baltec1 wrote: LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: baltec1 wrote: tears baltec. Erotica 1 was banned. Permanently. Deal with it. Or leave. I would like this victim banned for clear breaches of the EULA for harrasment under racial aggression and real life death threats. I would also like the posters in the old thread who also stated their suppert fot RL violence to also be banned for breaching the EULA. If CCP are going to ban ero over this then they have to uphold the EULA rules for eveyone. You misspelled the word 'harassment'. You misspelled the word 'support'. You misspelled the word 'everyone'. I am guessing, you would like to learn how to write first. Rather than comment on my phones tiny keys you answer this question. Why do you think people who did break the EULA should not be banned? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 4075	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:44:00 - [136] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: Antisocial Malkavian wrote: Paul Chung wrote: I'm confused. Was the 'discrimination' actually bannable? That being said, no matter how much you hate someone for blowing up your favorite internet space ship, it is NEVER ok to threaten someone in real life over a video game. Period. Assuming it wasn't a made up e-mail, you have my sympathies Remiel. Like Sokhar did when he got pissed off you mean? The rest of us can see a difference between a guy at the end of his tether lashing out from emotional anguish, and a cool, calm, collected con man who has run this many times with significant premeditation. The EULA doesn't have anything in it about extenuating circumstances for making death threats and obscene racist statements. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 366	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:53:00 - [137] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Rather than comment on my phones tiny keys you answer this question. Why do you think people who did break the EULA should not be banned? Alright, trolling aside, I'll bite, since I have some free time. Here goes. EULA is a set of rules governing conduct within a video game. The video game exists in a larger environment called human society. Human society is governed by another set of rules, a subset of which is morality. Rules of society trump EULA rules. Therefore, it is entirely possible to breach EULA rules, but comply with rules of morality, and not get a ban. On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. TL:DR - dont do stupid ****.
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 5120	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:56:00 - [138] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: The EULA doesn't have anything in it about extenuating circumstances for making death threats and obscene racist statements. The EULA does contain language stating that harassment is an ongoing thing, not a once-off. So if you can show that Sokhar was making death threats on more than one occasion and was not at all remorseful about making those threats, sure, he should be banned. Erotica 1 on the other hand has been running the Bonus Room as a matter of habit. The bonus room was run outside of the game specifically because Erotica 1 wanted to avoid any "complications" from the EULA. This is stated by Erotica 1 at the beginning of the recording. So not only was it routine, it was also premeditated. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Kyperion 170	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:58:00 - [139] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Mara Rinn wrote: Antisocial Malkavian wrote: Paul Chung wrote: I'm confused. Was the 'discrimination' actually bannable? That being said, no matter how much you hate someone for blowing up your favorite internet space ship, it is NEVER ok to threaten someone in real life over a video game. Period. Assuming it wasn't a made up e-mail, you have my sympathies Remiel. Like Sokhar did when he got pissed off you mean? The rest of us can see a difference between a guy at the end of his tether lashing out from emotional anguish, and a cool, calm, collected con man who has run this many times with significant premeditation. The EULA doesn't have anything in it about extenuating circumstances for making death threats and obscene racist statements. I would not be 100% against a temporary ban for Sohkar, I would also not be 100% against only a temporary ban for E1 But I am 100% sure that just an in game invitation/mail/chat log to any form of "bonus room" after a succesful scam should be considered a bannable offense from now on.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10409	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:58:00 - [140] - Quote LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: Rules of society trump EULA rules. Therefore, it is entirely possible to breach EULA rules, but comply with rules of morality, and not get a ban. On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. TL:DR - dont do stupid ****. yes because threatening harm towards somebody's family is totally morally justifiable Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á

Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3083	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:59:00 - [141] - Quote LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. So what exactly was Erotica 1 banned for? Oh god.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 4075	Posted - 2014.03.29 05:59:00 - [142] - Quote Andski wrote: LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: Rules of society trump EULA rules. Therefore, it is entirely possible to breach EULA rules, but comply with rules of morality, and not get a ban. On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. TL:DR - dont do stupid ****. yes because threatening harm towards somebody's family is totally morally justifiable The really awful part is when you realize that, to these people? It is morally justifiable. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 367	Posted - 2014.03.29 06:01:00 - [143] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. So what exactly was Erotica 1 banned for? For crossing a line.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3083	Posted - 2014.03.29 06:02:00 - [144] - Quote LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: Riot Girl wrote: LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. So what exactly was Erotica 1 banned for? For crossing a line. I doubt that. Oh god.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 4075	Posted - 2014.03.29 06:02:00 - [145] - Quote LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: Riot Girl wrote: LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. So what exactly was Erotica 1 banned for? For crossing a line. One that didn't exist until Ripard Teg decided it should. Such a crime. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Kyperion 170	Posted - 2014.03.29 06:02:00 - [146] - Quote Glathull wrote: It's amazing to me how so many different people either do or do not get punished for crossing or not crossing a line that has always been very wide and very fuzzy and always left to the discretion of CCP. It's as though literally nothing has changed at all. Which is why, in the end, this Lord of the Flies experiment with legal theft (even if only of the time required to obtain virtual items) is doomed ... because of the unique mechanics of eve, scammers, are, quite literally: thieves.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 367	Posted - 2014.03.29 06:04:00 - [147] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Andski wrote: LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: Rules of society trump EULA rules. Therefore, it is entirely possible to breach EULA rules, but comply with rules of morality, and not get a ban. On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. TL:DR - dont do stupid ****. yes because threatening harm towards somebody's family is totally morally justifiable The really awful part is when you realize that, to these people? It is morally justifiable. Don't like the way society works? Go live on an island alone somewhere - feel free to take Erotica 1 with you. I'll shed a tear and wave you goodbye as your sailboat slowly drifts into the sunset.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 367	Posted - 2014.03.29 06:05:00 - [148] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: One that didn't exist until Ripard Teg decided it should. Such a crime. Now now, that's just rear-hurt and tears. Napkin?
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10410	Posted - 2014.03.29 06:06:00 - [149] - Quote LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: Don't like the way society works? Go live on an island alone somewhere - feel free to take Erotica 1 with you. I'll shed a tear and wave you goodbye as your sailboat slowly drifts into the sunset. normal, socially competent people don't threaten to harm other people or their relatives when they lose in a video game disgusting asocial trash do that Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
LUMINOUS SPIRIT The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 367	Posted - 2014.03.29 06:06:00 - [150] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: I doubt that. I don't. Now what?



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