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Kyperion
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:07:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Riot Girl wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. So what exactly was Erotica 1 banned for? For crossing a line. One that didn't exist until Ripard Teg decided it should. Such a crime.
Neither one of us owns the sandbox we play in. The people who do, could have made any decision they wanted... and I think it is telling the decision they made.
Obviously they feel that there are not enough scammers and douchebags in eve to maintain an adequate business model.......... |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10410
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:07:00 -
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"it is perfectly normal to respond to losing in a video game by doxing the other person and making threats towards their family" - luminous spirit, a moral authority Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4077
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:08:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Rules of society trump EULA rules.
Therefore, it is entirely possible to breach EULA rules, but comply with rules of morality, and not get a ban.
On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered.
TL:DR - dont do stupid ****. yes because threatening harm towards somebody's family is totally morally justifiable The really awful part is when you realize that, to these people? It is morally justifiable. Don't like the way society works? Go live on an island alone somewhere - feel free to take Erotica 1 with you. I'll shed a tear and wave you goodbye as your sailboat slowly drifts into the sunset.
If your "society" involves lynch mobs and witch hunts in place of any actual rules, then I am very glad I am not a part of it. You barbarians can have your excuse for a "society".
You're not the majority, by the way. You just tell yourself that to assuage your guilt at your evil actions. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kyperion
170
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:08:00 -
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Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Don't like the way society works? Go live on an island alone somewhere - feel free to take Erotica 1 with you.
I'll shed a tear and wave you goodbye as your sailboat slowly drifts into the sunset. normal, socially competent people don't threaten to harm other people or their relatives when they lose in a video game disgusting asocial trash do that
Yeah HOKAY..... Go be a fly on the wall with any sibling relationship in the world... some translation of "I'm going to kill you!" .... will be a frequently heard expression. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
367
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:10:00 -
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Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Don't like the way society works? Go live on an island alone somewhere - feel free to take Erotica 1 with you.
I'll shed a tear and wave you goodbye as your sailboat slowly drifts into the sunset. normal, socially competent people don't threaten to harm other people or their relatives when they lose in a video game disgusting asocial trash do that
The quality of tears is phenomenal here.
CCP, thank you for not locking this thread despite some light trolling. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10923
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:10:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Riot Girl wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. So what exactly was Erotica 1 banned for? For crossing a line.
What line was crossed that is worse than racism, RL death threats and people supporting RL harm on these very forums? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Kyperion
170
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:11:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Don't like the way society works? Go live on an island alone somewhere - feel free to take Erotica 1 with you.
I'll shed a tear and wave you goodbye as your sailboat slowly drifts into the sunset. normal, socially competent people don't threaten to harm other people or their relatives when they lose in a video game disgusting asocial trash do that Yeah HOKAY..... Go be a fly on the wall with any sibling relationship in the world... some translation of "I'm going to kill you!" .... will be a frequently heard expression.
Not to mention, if what you say were true... the only games moral people could play would be those who DON'T simulate the repetitive killing of simulated human beings.... AKA in your little universe EVERY SINGLE person who plays eve is EVIL.
Yeah, you are a moron. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10410
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:12:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:Yeah HOKAY..... Go be a fly on the wall with any sibling relationship in the world... some translation of "I'm going to kill you!" .... will be a frequently heard expression.
neither my brother nor myself have ever, at any moment, threatened to kill or hurt the other in any way, and we were teenagers the last time an argument got physical Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4077
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:12:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:Kyperion wrote:Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Don't like the way society works? Go live on an island alone somewhere - feel free to take Erotica 1 with you.
I'll shed a tear and wave you goodbye as your sailboat slowly drifts into the sunset. normal, socially competent people don't threaten to harm other people or their relatives when they lose in a video game disgusting asocial trash do that Yeah HOKAY..... Go be a fly on the wall with any sibling relationship in the world... some translation of "I'm going to kill you!" .... will be a frequently heard expression. Not to mention, if what you say were true... the only games moral people could play would be those who DON'T simulate the repetitive killing of simulated human beings.... AKA in your little universe EVERY SINGLE person who plays eve is EVIL. Yeah, you are a moron.
Or, and I know this is a shock to you...
We are actually capable of separating the game from real life. You know, adults. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Tear Jar
The Conference Elite CODE.
65
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:12:00 -
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Shizuken wrote:Tear Jar wrote:Shizuken wrote:Tear Jar wrote: anything in the grey area There was no "grey area" here. It was pretty obvious to most of us that it was way over the line. Then why wasn't he banned months ago? The bonus room isn't new. Erotica1 has been uploading bonus room records for months and he has been reported several times before. One has to be aware of the problem before one can act on it. Criminals aren't convicted the moment they commit the act.
They are definitely aware. There was even a big drama 5 months ago where I guy got his skill points refunded after losing them in the bonus round.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=294240 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10414
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:13:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:The quality of tears is phenomenal here.
CCP, thank you for not locking this thread despite some light trolling.
if you think that I'm even remotely bothered by E1 getting banned, you're wrong
what I'm bothered by is that socially dysfunctional people who believe that RL threats are a justifiable response to undesired outcomes in video games are accepted here Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Kyperion
170
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:14:00 -
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Andski wrote:Kyperion wrote:Yeah HOKAY..... Go be a fly on the wall with any sibling relationship in the world... some translation of "I'm going to kill you!" .... will be a frequently heard expression. neither my brother nor myself have ever, at any moment, threatened to kill or hurt the other in any way, and we were teenagers the last time an argument got physical
AAAAND you just proved my point... you fought and did physical harm to your own brother... AKA you ARE the evil you claim others to be. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4080
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:16:00 -
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Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:The quality of tears is phenomenal here.
CCP, thank you for not locking this thread despite some light trolling. if you think that I'm even remotely bothered by E1 getting banned, you're wrong what I'm bothered by is that socially dysfunctional people who believe that RL threats are a justifiable response to undesired outcomes in video games are accepted here
Yep. +1.
And the worst part is that Riptard's little crusade has emboldened these maladjusted freaks. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Navi Annages
The Scope Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:16:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Riot Girl wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. So what exactly was Erotica 1 banned for? For crossing a line.
What line?
I see no breach of the EULA? Unless you can state otherwise.
Moral lines are defined by whatever religious publication you most relate to but you definitely sound like a Christian in which case I have several fantastic books that will help you move back towards science and less towards pitchforks and witch trials :D
Plus Erotica 2 gave me money today so......................your lynching didn't get you very far scrub. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
368
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:17:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
If your "society" involves lynch mobs and witch hunts in place of any actual rules, then I am very glad I am not a part of it. You barbarians can have your excuse for a "society".
You're not the majority, by the way. You just tell yourself that to assuage your guilt at your evil actions.
"My" society? Barbarians?? You're not part of it??
Lol, what are you, 12? Stop being so rear-hurt, go eat a cookie and watch a cartoon. |
Kyperion
170
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:17:00 -
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Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:The quality of tears is phenomenal here.
CCP, thank you for not locking this thread despite some light trolling. if you think that I'm even remotely bothered by E1 getting banned, you're wrong what I'm bothered by is that socially dysfunctional people who believe that RL threats are a justifiable response to undesired outcomes in video games are accepted here
And you are completely ignoring the emotional abuse he went through to get to that point.
So his reaction is mitigated by the FACT that he was goaded into that emotional state.
But yeah, I'd be ok with a temporary ban for both of them. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10414
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:17:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:AAAAND you just proved my point... you fought and did physical harm to your own brother... AKA you ARE the evil you claim others to be.
male teenagers occasionally get into fights, shocking
the difference is that it has ceased with adulthood, even though the disagreements we get into now are of much more substance than the petty ones we would occasionally punch each other over Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Tear Jar
The Conference Elite CODE.
66
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:18:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:baltec1 wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:baltec. Erotica 1 was banned. Permanently. Deal with it. Or leave. I would like this victim banned for clear breaches of the EULA for harrasment under racial aggression and real life death threats. I would also like the posters in the old thread who also stated their suppert fot RL violence to also be banned for breaching the EULA. If CCP are going to ban ero over this then they have to uphold the EULA rules for eveyone. Because if the EULA doesn't apply equally to everybody, then why is it there at all?
Realistically, to provide rough guidelines on behavior. Typically its worth enforcing these guidelines consistently(because players complain less), but occasionally companies think its better for their bottom line to disregard the guidelines.
The message here is if you want someone banned, you should stir up a mob against the player. Because CCP will cave. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10414
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:18:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:And you are completely ignoring the emotional abuse he went through to get to that point.
So his reaction is mitigated by the FACT that he was goaded into that emotional state.
But yeah, I'd be ok with a temporary ban for both of them.
"but he was drunkangry so it's okay" Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Kyperion
170
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:19:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:The quality of tears is phenomenal here.
CCP, thank you for not locking this thread despite some light trolling. if you think that I'm even remotely bothered by E1 getting banned, you're wrong what I'm bothered by is that socially dysfunctional people who believe that RL threats are a justifiable response to undesired outcomes in video games are accepted here And you are completely ignoring the emotional abuse he went through to get to that point. So his reaction is mitigated by the FACT that he was goaded into that emotional state. But yeah, I'd be ok with a temporary ban for both of them.
But the ultimate source of this is the FACT, that thievery(scamming) in EVE has unique real world value, unlike any other video game. |
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
368
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:19:00 -
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Navi Annages wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Riot Girl wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. So what exactly was Erotica 1 banned for? For crossing a line. What line?
The big fat one, the one that says 'Don't cross me or else'. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4080
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:19:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:The quality of tears is phenomenal here.
CCP, thank you for not locking this thread despite some light trolling. if you think that I'm even remotely bothered by E1 getting banned, you're wrong what I'm bothered by is that socially dysfunctional people who believe that RL threats are a justifiable response to undesired outcomes in video games are accepted here And you are completely ignoring the emotional abuse he went through to get to that point. So his reaction is mitigated by the FACT that he was goaded into that emotional state. But yeah, I'd be ok with a temporary ban for both of them.
Please tell me what part of the EULA concerns mitigating factors for real life death threats and obscene racism. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kyperion
170
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:20:00 -
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Andski wrote:Kyperion wrote:And you are completely ignoring the emotional abuse he went through to get to that point.
So his reaction is mitigated by the FACT that he was goaded into that emotional state.
But yeah, I'd be ok with a temporary ban for both of them. "but he was drunkangry so it's okay" you missed the part where I'd be ok for a ban on BOTH of them
again, you are a moron. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10414
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:20:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:But the ultimate source of this is the FACT, that thievery(scamming) in EVE has unique real world value, unlike any other video game.
it has no real world value, every minute and every dollar that one spends in this game is a sunk cost, the same way that every minute and every dollar one spends on beer or board games is a sunk cost Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Navi Annages
The Scope Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:21:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Navi Annages wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Riot Girl wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:On the flip side, it is entirely possible to NOT break the EULA, but break the rules of society, and get a ban, as our dear friend Erotica 1 discovered. So what exactly was Erotica 1 banned for? For crossing a line. What line? The big fat one, the one that says 'Don't cross me or else'.
Did your ancestors come from Salem too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU |
Kyperion
170
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:21:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Kyperion wrote:Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:The quality of tears is phenomenal here.
CCP, thank you for not locking this thread despite some light trolling. if you think that I'm even remotely bothered by E1 getting banned, you're wrong what I'm bothered by is that socially dysfunctional people who believe that RL threats are a justifiable response to undesired outcomes in video games are accepted here And you are completely ignoring the emotional abuse he went through to get to that point. So his reaction is mitigated by the FACT that he was goaded into that emotional state. But yeah, I'd be ok with a temporary ban for both of them. Please tell me what part of the EULA concerns mitigating factors for real life death threats and obscene racism. The various lawyer terminology that essentially lets them ban you for whatever the hell they want. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4620
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:21:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:The quality of tears is phenomenal here.
CCP, thank you for not locking this thread despite some light trolling. if you think that I'm even remotely bothered by E1 getting banned, you're wrong what I'm bothered by is that socially dysfunctional people who believe that RL threats are a justifiable response to undesired outcomes in video games are accepted here Yep. +1. And the worst part is that Riptard's little crusade has emboldened these maladjusted freaks.
No the worst part is that you are still so under that sadistic psychotics spell that you just can't let this go. The only people that matter have made their decision.
Deal with it and find another cause to fritter your life away at. There are plenty to choose from in here.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4080
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:22:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
If your "society" involves lynch mobs and witch hunts in place of any actual rules, then I am very glad I am not a part of it. You barbarians can have your excuse for a "society".
You're not the majority, by the way. You just tell yourself that to assuage your guilt at your evil actions.
"My" society? Barbarians?? You're not part of it?? Lol, what are you, 12? Stop being so rear-hurt, go eat a cookie and watch a cartoon.
Yes, your "society", if that's what you can call it.
And no, I'm not part of it. I have a conscience, I have a moral compass, and unlike you, I have a genuine sense of right and wrong. I can't ever be part of your "society", because to get in, I'd have to cut that part of my brain out. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
838
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:22:00 -
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All I know is banning people because of a threadnaught caused by Rippard Teg is pretty weak, and raises a lot more questions about what is acceptable than it answers. |
Navi Annages
The Scope Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:22:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Kyperion wrote:Andski wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:The quality of tears is phenomenal here.
CCP, thank you for not locking this thread despite some light trolling. if you think that I'm even remotely bothered by E1 getting banned, you're wrong what I'm bothered by is that socially dysfunctional people who believe that RL threats are a justifiable response to undesired outcomes in video games are accepted here And you are completely ignoring the emotional abuse he went through to get to that point. So his reaction is mitigated by the FACT that he was goaded into that emotional state. But yeah, I'd be ok with a temporary ban for both of them. Please tell me what part of the EULA concerns mitigating factors for real life death threats and obscene racism. The various lawyer terminology that essentially lets them ban you for whatever the hell they want.
CCP I am admitting that I harass people in Jita on a daily basis. I am turning myself into the Police State and probably deserve a permanent ban. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU |
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