Well said! Here is to hoping that freewill remains a part of the game, so Bad Guys can be bad, and Good Guys can come on Eve-O forums and complain about it

Your determination to keep towing the party line is nothing short of zealotry.

Its really the semi-religious overtoned Cyber-cult propaganda spewed by New Order that irks me. That and my life's work being dedicated to the service of my country and community(Military/Security/Fire Services respectively), make it very hard for me to stomach even the roleplay of 'evil.'

With CCP's clear statements on the future of ganking, and scamming being crucial to the future of their vision of EVE, I just cannot see where all the worry is coming from on the fears of infringement upon their gameplay.

I'm just making sure, because some of the posters here seem to be unaware that their choice doesn't reflect their stated aims. If you were looking to lose weight, and told me that you'd decided to go on an all fudge cake diet, I might well comment on that too.

Blame CCP for the cyber-cult propaganda that is the New Order. They said we needed a reason to bump and gank and be nefarious, so we came up with one. Trust me, in the real world, nobody really worships James. Maybe have a beer with, but no worship.

Most of us just see Eve as a game. We're playing a role. The role is Bad Guy. We add a little more depth to the world....if the eve community were all forced to be good, this would be a fuckall boring as hell game to play.

My reason for being the Bad Guy? It gets me through my day. Believe or disbelieve, my real life story is pretty much out there. A decade of Army service with 3 tours to Iraq, including a pretty serious IED hit that put me out. Came out and went into the nursing field. I've dealt with, and am still dealing, with some pretty serious **** from what happened, and this isn't even bring trans into the mix yet! Playing a bad guy in Eve is my therapy. It lets me channel all of that awful, horrible crap into a "safe" persona and area, to burn it all off. Stuff that happens in Eve really doesn't matter, it's all pretendy fun-time games. Nobody actually loses anything. Nobody really gets hurt. If I couldn't channel all that aggression and ill-feelings, I don't know where I'd be today. It wouldn't be a good place, that's for sure. That's really all I feel safe sharing about, what with public forum. If you're really curious, detail can be gotten in private.

Mad props for that fire services work, too. I've had the pleasure of working a few Life and Ops Support tents on major fire calls, and I've never met a group of people more dedicated and selfless than the firedogs. Keep up the good work.

did you just get a virus? I'm not about to click on a link like that without some explanation

ROFLMAO


AH HAHAHA how old are you again that you dont know that web comic?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jJf-p6RYvo

That about says it all.

When I was a kid, comercials featured stunts and explosions and dangerous acts all the time. No one needed to be told the obvious: that this is a dramatization and doing this would be super stupid and get you killed.

The same kinds of commercials today feature a "do not try this' disclaimer everytime anyone does anything even slightly interesting.

Same thing is happening here. The 'torture" that occured on team speak in 2014 would have been called a hilarious extended prank call in 1984. Somewhere along the line, society got pussified to the point where everyone's "feelings" are the most important factor in every interaction. It's the exact reason who MMOs today are overwhemlingly 'think about the children' themepark games as opposed to the sandboxes of the past.

People got it wrong, it won't be the Star Citizens of the game world that will kill games like EVE, it will be increasingly puritanical society that will make the kinds of online interations that go on in and out of EVE less and less socially acceptable.

It's not just those two, as has been stated repeatedly. Ever heard of the insurance nerf?

Which was accompanied in the same expansion by the introduction of tier 3 battlecruisers and a massive dps boost for destroyers?

Recast EVE as a Xrated BSDM scifi sim.

I Vote 2

With a warning!

EVE Online, CCP & the EVE community were lucky this time!

Why!

CCP Servers are in the UK, the UK has Anti Cyber-Bullying laws for forums that have imprisonment for the worse offenders & fines for companies that don't cooperate by giving the authorities the actual addresses of those involved or allow it to happen again.

I suspect it is the reason CCP is more vigilant on the forums nowadays.

Now think of what would have happened if the victim was NOT a married man, but had been under 18 or even worse a 12 year old.

Now what I call the 'Paranoid Nostalgic' of the UK, which seems to be most of the Conservative Party, hate anything modern & are always looking for ways to wreck it or throttle it into submission. Once woken up they are tenacious in their campaigning to get rid of modernity in all its forms.

If the victim had been a 12 year old then a threadnought on this forum would have been the least of CCP problems, this would have been all over the UK press as an example of why the 'Cyber-Bullying' laws should be extended to online games.

And think about this.

You might be feeling smug that you live in the USA or Russia where UK and EU laws cannot touch you. But there is a simple solution to that. The campaigners would get the UK to follow China and get UK online games to only allow UK gamers play

CCP would then have a choice move to Iceland and loose a large chuck on their player base or move to Iceland and set up a UK only server like China's Serenity.

For those who scoff at the above, look at Australia.

EVE works because it it 30,000+ players on at any one time. If EVE gets fragmented it will fail as the running costs will rise per player and smaller communities mean less interactions

EVE Online is an adult game for ADULTS lets keep it that way!

CCP Servers are in the UK, the UK has Anti Cyber-Bullying laws

Eve is game about spaceships, about economy and simulation of economical environment (everything comes down to isks).
Latest event showed us that people in this game are not able to (Not 100% of them but major part enough) behave in an adult manner and limit themselves.

Place a red line, set the boundaries.

https://sites.google.com/a/cypanthers.org/cease-cyber-bullying/real-life-examples-of-cyber-bullying

Would love to see you prove to a court that what happens in eve and voice coms is cyberbullying.

However, there's a line as to how severe those circumstances should get, and I'll paraphrase Mynxee by saying that this line needs to be drawn at the point where the alleged victim starts to lose emotional control.