However if you wanna talk about racism how about E1 asking the victim to read the "thing" with a minnessota accent; AND WIHTH THE FACT THAT HE KNEW THAT THE VICTIM HAD A SPEECH IMPEDIMENT:

What you say about that??????????

That's one of my points. "The rules" they use to justify their "actions against" people, which, of course they "will not discuss" are selectively, unevenly, and arbitrarily applied. When I see 100 people a day screaming the F word in local, you can bet your buns I'm gonna be pissed if suddenly I get in trouble for it.

PS - I dont live in hisec

Isn't that exactly what you are pushing for for one of Erotica1's victims? I confess that I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

Mr Epeen

Yeah. Only fanatics have conviction. I'll be sure to tell that to my friends in the service.

Stop posting dude, just stop posting. Please.

Edit: honest question. Are you a teenager? Your posting leads me to believe that you are. Know-it-all who knows nothing. I have a teenage son. Maybe you two could hang out, watch some anime. Might be good for you to associate with some kids in your own age group.

I'm pushing for equal treatment for all. We all pay the same price to utilize this product, if CCP has a shred of respect for their customers they'll provide equal service for equal pay. So 1 of 2 things should happen, IMO, and either are acceptable to me, because it would be uniform and unambiguous: Either E1 should be unbanned, or Sokhar should be banned, too. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Those threads and racism, as you call it have been instigated an pushed by E1 and his so called "escrow agents"

if you push a human beeing so far ( intentionnally ) that is the least you can expect.

And b.t.w. this has nothing to do with racism , the man just siad a curseword over and over again; not knowing what race or colour or whatever the scammers have been.

AND THE SCAMMERS PROVOCED A SITUATION LIKE THIS INTENTIONNALLY:

Sure, if they were guilty of the same thing.

But they weren't. One is a psychotic sadist and the other lost his temper. Not even in the same ballpark.

If he get's banned for being angry then say goodbye to half the player base. Since 'equal treatment for all'.

I think the other lesson out of this incident is clear.

If you perceive that harrassment has occurred in-game, don't petition it if you want visible results. Instead, write a hyperbolic blog post, get a few others to accuse your harasser of being as bad as a child molester, an 'emotional rapist', and similar, get them to make RL threats against the person you consider to have harassed you, and send the blog to MMO news sites.

Is that really what CCP want?

And have you never heard a pap song or seen a movie starring african amreican people saying the exact same word over and over again?

And have you never heard a pap song or seen a movie starring african amreican people saying the exact same word over and over again?

Typical racist argument right there

They both violated the TOS/EULA. Does it say somewhere in the TOS/EULA that using racial slurs (which '"will not be tolerated") and actually threatening to murder someone irl are "not as bad" as mindfracking someone? Let alone someone that was free to end the discussion at any time, but instead chose to resort to said racism and rl threats of murder?

E1 is a douchebag, ok? But imo no amount of douchebaggery justifies racial slurs, and CERTAINLY doesnt justify someone threatening to track you down and murder you irl.



Thats a straw-man. He didn't violate the TOS by being angry, he violated the TOS with his bigotry and threats of rl violence. In the state where I live, merely threatening someone with violence is considered assault. He could actually go to jail here where I live for that.

So thats why you are posting in this threat every 5 seconds.

Just so you can filter out the quotes that make yourself look good and make everything else t.l.d.r.

Hey look, thats how you lose an argument.

Cool report him.

Oh... and the other 50 people I'll have chat logs for in half an hour. And the 300 people I'll have chat logs for in the next 24. And they will even be legitimately in-game.

Be careful what you wish for. You might not like when you get it.

But knock yourself out with that can of worms. You'll look funny without a nose, but who cares, you'll have brought your righteous fury to bear and won against the man.

All shall love me and despair! - Galadriel

Mr Epeen

Cool report him.

Oh... and the other 50 people I'll have chat logs for in half an hour. And the 300 people I'll have chat logs for in the next 24. And they will even be legitimately in-game.

Be careful what you wish for. You might not like when you get it.

But knock yourself out with that can of worms. You'll look funny without a nose, but who cares, you'll have brought your righteous fury to bear and won against the man.

All shall love me and despair! - Galadriel

Mr Epeen

I am not here to argue, i am her to reason

I CHOOSE to be here when I have the FREEDOM to leave.

Just like Sokhar did

But as per the rules, it technically was Ero's DUTY to not mindfuck someone as bad as he did. Having the freedom of evading something does not give a free pass to do it because the guy didn't use his freedom.

To go one further, just because YOU are say a race, if YOU say things that are considered hating on that race, you can be racist too you know.

as to the rap song thing, I live in the southern US, I hear a LOOOOOT of ignorant dumbasses trying to justify them slinging that word all over exactly like that.

AND lol at "look at my avatar" thats priceless right there

By "vengeance" you mean "killing a couple of random MTUs", right? haha

le high sec peeveepee

So funny,

you are trolling this thread for days now about "there should be no interference by CCP", and we should be allowed to do what we want

And you are insisting on any actions in or out of game shoudn't be sactioned at all.

Yet YOU ARE THE ONE TO pull the racist card.

But in YOUR opinion racism should be just fine right?

Because in YOUR OPINION there shouldn't be any laws , no ISDs or CSM or even CCP employees that make any rules right?

And there should be no morals and no SOCIAL behaviour in the game , because the game is so harsh and Dark. Is that what you ae saying?

Yes, please tell your friends that you spend all day trolling on internet forums and you really want to share some of the conversations with them.

Sure, when you stop, I will stop.

There is no need to be upset.

I will take a moment to say that E1 was well aware that he was pushing the line whenever he did a bonus room.

He's not an idiot, and he knew full well that it could eventually result in a ban.

Nobody likes it when someone dances on the razor edge and rubs your nose in your intent to allow a great deal of liberty.

Teenagers do it with their parents all the time, but eventually even the most reasonable parent gets to the point where they have had enough. While that teen may protest bitterly and decry how unfair the situation is... chanting the "but you said" mantra in a useless attempt to instill guilt and a reversal of punishment... they actually knew all along that they were going to reach the limit of their parents patience eventually.

CCP had every right to make the call they did, and they have every right to retain the discretion necessary to make such determinations in the future.

If people keep pushing this issue, the response it going to eventually become one of zero tolerance for anything remotely like this... and that would be bad for everyone.

Yup. For me that is pretty much the /thread.

Those threads and racism, as you call it have been instigated an pushed by E1 and his so called "escrow agents"

if you push a human beeing so far ( intentionnally ) that is the least you can expect.

And b.t.w. this has nothing to do with racism , the man just siad a curseword over and over again; not knowing what race or colour or whatever the scammers have been.

AND THE SCAMMERS PROVOCED A SITUATION LIKE THIS INTENTIONNALLY: