In addition to the ships that can make it past nearly any gate camp that you listed above; Nearly anything with an MWD and a cloak that is smaller/faster than a BS can at least make it back to the gate and escape the way they came. Any MWD frigate, and a lot of cruisers can do the same with out the cloak.

Also: Bubbles don't kill people, the guys with really big guns sitting on the gate with them do =P

Edit: This is of course subject to certain factors. If the enemy is willing to comp tons of RSB and web bonused ships, it is possible to stop anything. As has been pointed out though, dedicated camps are an extremely rare thing in Null Sec; and when they do exist, they light up the map for anyone to see.

So what is your point, that players once they see the choke point camp should just high tail it back to the gate? I guess they did not get to experience nullsec... Which is the point of why some players don't go to null... Its camped out, with warp bubbles.

I am going to respond to this. Even though you are just trolling, there is a semi legitimate question in there somewhere if you look hard enough which others might want the answer to.

A. You should never jump into a permanent camp to begin with. You do not even need to go anywhere near the system that is camped to know that it is there and avoid it. Learn to use the free intel that the map statistics give you.

B. If some entity is dedicating the man hours to camp some gate for what ever reason, then guess what, you are not getting thought that gate. Go through a different one. The gates that get camped are usually the ones along the fastest route from highly populated areas of high sec to a particular region of low or nul.

If the extent of the thought you put into getting into null is "set destination" then yes camps are a problem.

Just curious why you people seem so desperate to convince highsec dwellers to risk Zero?

All nullsec is choked up.

All nullsec entry points are bubble camped unless you are going through a worm hole.

And you don't believe players should be able to effectively counter warp bubbles?

Just curious why you people seem so desperate to convince highsec dwellers to risk Zero?
Really Dradius, you should be ashamed or just admit a lack of candor...

"1) It is impossible to move through null sec because every single gate is constantly camped."

True, but you will likely be BBQ if you aren't "blue".

"2) Null Sec PVP is nothing but blobs."

True, but you will likely be BBQ if you aren't "blue".

"3) Null Sec PVPers are just looking for ganks, not good fights."

True, but you will likely be BBQ if you aren't "blue".

"4) Living in Null Sec takes a huge amount of time and complete abandonment of real life."

True, but you will likely be BBQ if you aren't "blue".

"5) Living in Null Sec requires years of SP training time in order to accomplish anything."

True, but you will likely be BBQ if you aren't "blue".
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Then you conclude that :
" More than anything else, living in Null Sec requires that you are capable of setting goals for your self, and are willing to put in the effort required to reach them. (Note: Effort != Time) People who do not do well with out some sort of structure always guiding them in the one "correct" direction will not do well in Null."

which is a total "non sequitur" completely disconnected logically from your initial points.
Then you leave a video which may or may not be "posed" by actors.

You'll have to do much better than that to attract highsec dwellers.
Oh yes and did I remember to say that if you go to zero and you are not "blue" you will likely be BBQ?

Oh yes and did I remember to say that if you go to zero and you are not "blue" you will likely be BBQ?

QFT for blue sec abloo bloo

No, it isnt actually.



No, they arent actually



There are ways to negate warp bubbles which can be used by anyone. Dont warp gate to gate. Use celestials to scan gates when there are people in system. If there is no celestials, dump cap and warp short. If you go through a gate that is bubbled, wait out your session timer, mwd back and jump back trough, wait or find another route - or if you have a covopscloak fitted - allign out of bubble, mwd, cloak and warp away as soon as you are clear. In a cloaky T3 with interdiction nullifier you can just forget about bubbles and warp gate to gate.


But yeah. Moving through null requires a pilot at the helm, not the autopilot. If that is what you want to do, then I cant help you.

[You know you are right. I just warped through a gate with cloaky fitted whatever I was flying, and I warped to a planet and then I warped through to the gate. no one ever decloaked me or anything. I mean I just trespassed all over that alliances space, but then I realized that there was no fun to be had. My cloaky ship was a poor isk generator, and I was constantly watching local. After ducking blob after blob using my game mechanics, I decided to return to Empire. There I could actually blow something up. I did not have to hide and dodge as much. I was able to turn a profit in seconds. After a while I forgot completely why I went to nullsec. Can someone remind me?

I dunno? You missed farming level 4s too much maybe? I was patrolling in a Vaga in null the other day, and stumbled across a Dread Gurista battleship in a belt. So I killed it. It dropped a Crystal Omega implant. It roughly equals doing about 60 level 4s.

I guess i just want to say: To each his own.

So its all about the isk for you? don't you find patrols a bit tedious?

...original post...

No, it seemed to be all about the isk for you the way you talk about "instantly turning profit". As for the patrol - Patrol = looking for a fight. And yes, I enjoy it.

Well good for you. I find patrols rather tedious. You know if you are so elite why don't you own your own corp?

I dunno? You missed farming level 4s too much maybe? I was patrolling in a Vaga in null the other day, and stumbled across a Dread Gurista battleship in a belt. So I killed it. It dropped a Crystal Omega implant. It roughly equals doing about 60 level 4s.

Well good for you. I find patrols rather tedious. You know if you are so elite why don't you own your own corp?

So what is your point, that players once they see the choke point camp should just high tail it back to the gate? I guess they did not get to experience nullsec... Which is the point of why some players don't go to null... Its camped out, with warp bubbles.

Cool story brah, this happens every day?

Who said I have a problem with nullsec players? I have problems with walls. I don't believe anyone in EVE should have an "I win" button, and warp bubbles are exactly that: an "I win" button for gate campers. If nullsec was really that cool of a place, would the community still need convincing after 7 years? If it were as simple as you say it is, would you have posters who constantly come to the forums to try to understand the "simple basic game mechanics"? Fun is what players are looking for in any sec area of EVE. Nullsec just tends not to be as much fun as other parts.

QFT for blue sec abloo bloo

a little patience goes a long way.

I will give you an example which you can believe or not.

Recently I was happily prancing around in Stain when I noticed a Tengu in JS-E8E.
Brought in my covops alt

Who said I have a problem with nullsec players? I have problems with walls. I don't believe anyone in EVE should have an "I win" button, and warp bubbles are exactly that: an "I win" button for gate campers. If nullsec was really that cool of a place, would the community still need convincing after 7 years? If it were as simple as you say it is, would you have posters who constantly come to the forums to try to understand the "simple basic game mechanics"? Fun is what players are looking for in any sec area of EVE. Nullsec just tends not to be as much fun as other parts.

If you think that will convince players to head out to null, keep dreaming. All nullsec is choked up. All nullsec entry points are bubble camped unless you are going through a worm hole. And you don't believe players should be able to effectively counter warp bubbles? why not? Are you a gate camper?

Are these lies supposed to make me want to try null-sec again?

Are these lies supposed to make me want to try null-sec again?