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Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.03 12:51:00 -
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All galaxies have a big black hole in their center. Take the milky way as a spiral galaxy for example. But ffs where is this in New Eden?? Thousands of solar systems static in space?? Astrophysical nightmare. Plz patch that up CCP! thank you very thousand  |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
71
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Posted - 2014.04.03 12:54:00 -
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So, what you are saying is, that Eve is physically inaccurate and unrealistic? |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17670
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Posted - 2014.04.03 12:54:00 -
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Planets don't orbit and space is liquid, the Eve universe isn't governed by our universes rules.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
681
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Posted - 2014.04.03 12:56:00 -
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Between clusters of galaxies there are strung out ribbons of clusters of stars that are thousands of light years long, the EvE cluster could be about 1% of one of those.
But there's me thinking you know what you're talking about.
Sorry.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
11024
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Posted - 2014.04.03 12:59:00 -
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New Eden isn't a galaxy.
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Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:00:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:New Eden isn't a galaxy.
that could explain it. but the overall structure reminds me of it. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4249
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:01:00 -
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If there is one in EVE, I'd bet it's in Syndicate.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
stoicfaux
4380
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:01:00 -
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The players are the black hole in EVE.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
348
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:07:00 -
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This thread is the black hole in EVE.
I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
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Dreadchain
Lavateinn
54
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:09:00 -
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What if New Eden was just a computer simulation, and whoever created it wasn't overly concerned about matching the physics and construct of the real universe? Kind of like The Matrix, you know?
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Salvos Rhoska
973
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:13:00 -
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Our galaxy, the Milky Way, alone may contain upto 100 billion stars.
New Eden is but a small region in its galaxy.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:14:00 -
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Obligatory.
Your mother is a black hole. |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples
League of Infamy
511
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:17:00 -
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As already stated, New Eden is not a galaxy.
Just also putting it out there that galaxies such as M33 do not appear to have sufficient central stellar velocity dispersions to contain central supermassive black holes. To assume that every galaxy has a supermassive black hole is simply wrong...
Edit: Spelling
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seth Hendar
I love you miners
514
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:19:00 -
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Dreadchain wrote:What if New Eden was just a computer simulation, and whoever created it wasn't overly concerned about matching the physics and construct of the real universe? Kind of like The Matrix, you know?
lies, eve is real, and internet spaceship is serious business.
stop trying to put silly ideas in ppl mind would you? |
Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:20:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:As already stated, New Eden is not a galaxy.
Just also putting it out there that bulgeless galaxies such as M33 do not appear to have sufficient central stellar velocity dispersions to contain central supermassive black holes. To assume that every galaxy has a supermassive black hole is simply wrong...
I am sorry, Mr. Einstein. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
5722
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:30:00 -
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My question is: Why the Hole gotta be Black? And why no talk about how the oppressive White stars are the one's that will burn you to death?
Related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efiW2K8gASM |
Big Lynx
The Gun Runners
Space Warriors
369
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:38:00 -
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Guys, guys, stop. I have proof of NASA.
Look at that picture and pay attention to point 14:
Galaxy
New Eden IS in our galaxy!! |
Adrie Atticus
Unicorn Love Hurts
54
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:09:00 -
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Agata Matahari wrote:All galaxies have a big black hole in their center. Take the milky way as a spiral galaxy for example. But ffs where is this in New Eden?? Thousands of solar systems static in space?? an astrophysical nightmare. Plz patch that up CCP! thank you very thousand
New Eden is about 120ly across at widest spot. Most galaxies are between 320ly and 3,200,000ly in diameter.
If we look at the Large Magellanic Cloud (close neighbour to Milky Way, lets pretend New Eden is in the LMC), I've marked the apparent size of New Eden on the map with a big red blob:
http://i.imgur.com/WlgIzh7.png
(It's the small dot at the center of the cloud, LMC is 14,000ly in diameter)
On the amount of stars: Larges galaxies have up to 100,000,000,000,000 stars.
Edit: I'm sorry for actual content on GD. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:12:00 -
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Hawkings nowadays claims they are actually gray. |
Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
600
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:26:00 -
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Agata Matahari wrote:baltec1 wrote:New Eden isn't a galaxy. that could explain it. but the overall structure reminds me of it.
Overall structure is governed by the gates coming out of the point of origin, i.e. the EVE Gate. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
3027
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:27:00 -
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Agata Matahari wrote:All galaxies have a big black hole in their center.
This is factually unaccurate
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:34:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:My question is: Why the Hole gotta be Black? And why no talk about how the oppressive White stars are the one's that will burn you to death?
Pffft! What about all that white star matter that gets sucked away from stars that are providing life giving energy to healthy, productive planetary systems and instead is fed into a bottomless pit of taking from which no one ever seems to escape?
My favorite K&P.
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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
188
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:46:00 -
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Also it should be noted that EVE map represents only known parts of the space that are reachable by star gates, there could be any number of systems we just have no way of reaching them.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
526
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:16:00 -
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Star Systems in Milky Way --> Roughly 100 Billion
Star Systems on Eve map --> ummh .... not really anywhere near 100 Billion |
CERA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
18
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:27:00 -
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Agata Matahari wrote:All galaxies have a big black hole in their center. Take the milky way as a spiral galaxy for example. But ffs where is this in New Eden?? Thousands of solar systems static in space?? an astrophysical nightmare. Plz patch that up CCP! thank you very thousand
On what scale does a galaxy tend to be on as far as number of constituent stars go again? |
BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury
Tactical Narcotics Team
406
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:29:00 -
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It's mot a mistake when you leave it out on purpose.
Besides, what about it's structure leads you to believe it is a galaxy as opposed to a disconnected cluster?
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:36:00 -
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Damn you CCP for not making this Fictional Fluid Universe Space Submarine Game not 100% accurate!
Oh wait...New Eden isn't a galaxy..its a Star Cluster.... OPs points are invalid.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Maxpie
MUSE Buy-n-Large
Metaphysical Utopian Society Enterprises
418
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:44:00 -
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Perhaps the black hole is there, but our systems are not calibrated to show it since we cannot reach it and it is not relevant to our activities.
No good deed goes unpunished |
Zaknussem
Everybody Loves Donuts
70
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:39:00 -
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Somewhere in (or around) Minmatar space there is a thing called "Ginnungagap". You can see it on the Star Map. You can also right-click it and "Show Info" to read that it is, in fact, a black hole. |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu
Test Alliance Please Ignore
560
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:44:00 -
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Come on OP you're acting like this is a fantasy world . . . oh wait.
Honor is a fools prize.
Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main!
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4991
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:51:00 -
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I saw a black hole once. Cost me forty bucks. Would have been another twenty to touch it.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Pew Terror
Green Associates
TITANS.
211
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:55:00 -
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Galaxies: Now available in minisize to fit in your handbag!
Our own galaxy is around 100k LY in diameter. Now look at the map. Now back to this thread. Look at the map again. Now go to your corner. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1863
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:08:00 -
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To fix this horrible physical atrocity highsec will be consumed by a black hole and become the center of the galaxy.
This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team.
Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
1242
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:13:00 -
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Isn't eve set in the 'New Eden Cluster' ??
If so it's more like the Magellan Clouds than an actual Galaxy
plus CCP are mean, and they only let us play in a tiny part of it anyway  |
Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:24:00 -
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Press f10
Star map
Drag mouse to see galaxy spinning
Astrophysics error solved |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
9359
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:27:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Hawkings nowadays claims they are actually gray.
I don't believe anything people say along the lines of "famous scientist says this", especially if they don't even get said famous scientist's name right.
"Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Darkopus
State War Academy
Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:52:00 -
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There is a black hole.........
its called Jita 4-4, a black hole full of scum and villany |
Serene Repose
1220
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:22:00 -
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Proof EVE players have big black holes in their heads.
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Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2551
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:25:00 -
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Agata Matahari wrote:All galaxies have a big black hole in their center. Take the milky way as a spiral galaxy for example. But ffs where is this in New Eden?? Thousands of solar systems static in space?? an astrophysical nightmare. Plz patch that up CCP! thank you very thousand
a galaxy has billions of stars. Eve has a few thousand. New Eden is a small part of a much larger galaxy, that yes, probably does have black holes in the center.
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Hastatus Shmoof Marii
Celestial Horizon Corp.
3
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:27:00 -
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Perhaps the area EVE inhabits is only part of a galaxy, such as the end of an arm, and there hasn't been much exploration?
Or that we can only visit a certain number of systems, and the Black Hole is of no concern to the Empires
Or it's just a game and we should just be quiet... |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University
Ivy League
425
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:41:00 -
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There is a landmark you can view on the star map somewhere in Minmatar space. It is a black hole of some size large enough to be notable. I forget the name, but it starts with a G and has a Minmatar-Nordic sounding name. I can find it when I'm able to get in game.
EDIT: Zaknussem beat me to it. It's called Ginnungagap.
Lot's of people commenting on New Eden not being a galaxy. However you classify it, it's very clearly not part of the Milky Way.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
4380
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:31:00 -
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Agata Matahari wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:As already stated, New Eden is not a galaxy.
Just also putting it out there that bulgeless galaxies such as M33 do not appear to have sufficient central stellar velocity dispersions to contain central supermassive black holes. To assume that every galaxy has a supermassive black hole is simply wrong... I am sorry, Mr. Einstein.
You? You of all people, who called the game "an astrophysical nightmare" are trying to ironically call someone Einstein?
/brain
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
531
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:46:00 -
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* Wonders what sort of server is needed to support EVE as a galaxy the size of the milky way, 100,000 light years across with 100 billion star systems.
Quick maths exercise .... 100 billion systems versus 50,000 players logged in = 2 million star systems each |
One Eyed Runner
Perkone
Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2014.04.04 01:02:00 -
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this this space isn't real....OMG
I live in Jita so f*ck off |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
504
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Posted - 2014.04.04 01:44:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Hawkings nowadays claims they are actually gray. I don't believe anything people say along the lines of "famous scientist says this", especially if they don't even get said famous scientist's name right.
I'll just leave this here for you. |
Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2014.04.04 02:37:00 -
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Not to mention shooting through objects to hit other objects.
game is broken.
Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
371
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Posted - 2014.04.04 03:09:00 -
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What would be the point of a black hole in the center of all the galaxies?
Singularity.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4262
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Posted - 2014.04.04 03:12:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:* Wonders what sort of server is needed to support EVE as a galaxy the size of the milky way, 100,000 light years across with 100 billion star systems.
Deep ThoughtGäó
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
9361
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Posted - 2014.04.04 06:08:00 -
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Zaknussem wrote:Somewhere in (or around) Minmatar space there is a thing called "Ginnungagap". You can see it on the Star Map. You can also right-click it and "Show Info" to read that it is, in fact, a black hole.
Ginnungagap wrote:Ginnungagap is a huge black hole at the edge of Minmatar space. It is the largest black hole close to civilized space. The black hole has already rendered several solar systems close to it uninhabitable, but otherwise it is not considered to pose any great risk to inhabited space for the foreseeable future. The black hole can be seen very clearly in the Konora system, located very close to it.
There's large black holes, and there's supermassive black holes.
The inhabited EVE systems closest to that black hole wouldn't be affected much even by a black hole of several hundred or even thousands of solar masses, as fits with the description. They would however be severely affected by one that was the size you find at the center of galaxies. That much should be obvious to anyone who would be writing the descriptions, given the relative distances between stars in EVE.
Another landmark is "Point of No Return", just below Ginnungagap.
Point of No Return wrote:Point of no Return is a small black hole located not far from empire space. The black hole is rather old and was formed by a sun only just large enough to create a black hole when it collapsed. One interesting fact about it is that it's located more or less exactly in the center of the known world, if you only count those systems that have been linked with star gates.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
9361
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Posted - 2014.04.04 06:18:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:* Wonders what sort of server is needed to support EVE as a galaxy the size of the milky way, 100,000 light years across with 100 billion star systems.
Quick maths exercise .... 100 billion systems versus 50,000 players logged in = 2 million star systems each
You might as well just build the ******* universe from scratch at this point.
"Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
1210
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Posted - 2014.04.04 11:37:00 -
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New Eden is really tiny in relation to the milky way.
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