How can I 'safely' play a bad guy without putting my subscription at risk?

My question is this: How can I 'safely' play a bad guy without putting my subscription at risk?

I have never scammed or cheated another player in this game. But the players that DO scam make the game more fun for me. Awoxers make recruiting a FUN, INTERESTING event with reason not to just accept anyone in. If they do make it in, the game goes to the next level and the corp has to deal with an awoxer! Much better than killing red crosses! Gives you a chance to see the mettle of your corpmates and the resilience of your corp.

I have thought of making a new character to do a safari, like on the Eve Villain blog. However, after the banning of Erotica1 I have been second guessing this. If one of the people I awox has a mental disorder, or exaggerates any emotional anguish, can my account(s) be banned without warning if I cross this invisible line? I don't plan to 'torture' anyone and knowing myself I will probably feel bad after an Orca dies and reimburse the guy I kill. But you never know how people will take losing their space pixels...

My question is this: How can I 'safely' play a bad guy without putting my subscription at risk? What is the 'invisible line' defined as? (I hear suicide comments every 2 seconds in local, but if they say they will kill themselves if they don't get their stuff back is that an auto-win against scamming?)

Personally I don't understand the desire to become a space-telemarketer or a space nigerian prince.

What's the appeal here? Maybe its just me but the amount this goes on seems to have increased substantially since I started playing EVE.

In the end, scam, AWOX and betray eachother as much as you like. Steal from eachother as much as you like. Gank, pod and sabotage eachother as much as you like. These are the stories that drive gameplay in EVE, and we are not looking to re-define the sandbox. We do however need to make it clear that in the, end every sandbox has edges just the same as EVE has limits, and those limits are built on a basic level of empathy, understanding and humaine behavior.

We really don't need another thread on this tbh.

Not empty quoting, honest.

It better be safe for the bad guy.. or else theres gonna be a lot of internet lawyers mad about CCP's Eve Online: BE THE VILLAIN ad campaign I keep seeing on my Comcast page....


Be the villain...but a gentle, polite ,well mannered and empathetic one.

Im sorry about the laser Mr Bond, heres some Hot Cocoa and a hug.

Am I the only one whose never seen this ad?

Im sorry, but the online personality sniffer and compiler must have deemed you not worthy to be a Villain. Its ok, maybe villainy isn't your thing. How do you feel about being a henchmen? Due to the high mortality rate among the henchmen trade, Heroes tend to shoot henchmen by the truckload., there is ALWAYS job openings for henchmen.

Do anything you want to anyone's eve assets. In game, say anything you want within the EULA/TOS. Out of game, Trollish Blog/EN24/TMC/various forum posts are ok.

Repeated humiliation sessions over voice comms or other third party programs are not ok. The line in the sand was drawn pretty fcking clearly; a lot of people just refuse to see it.

And honestly, there aren't many people in the Eve community that sink so low as to warrant a ban by these standards. In fact, I only know of one such case.

To the OP, yeah, don't ask your victims to sing karaoke. CCP considers it a crime against humanity, right up there with the Holocaust. But ganking and scamming thousands of dollars worth of PLEX and starship is okay.

Stealth "Tears for E1" thread?

I am so conflicted.

I HATE scams and anyone that preys on ignorance. Eve has so many areas it is difficult to know EVERYTHING.

On the other hand.....I hate to see the game I love continue down the road of turning into a WOW themepark with safety rails, cushions and story-lines to hold the player's hand while crawling down the bunny slope.

But dang I would love to have my ISK doubled. Hmmmm....

On the one hand, the OP is dumb for starting this dumb thread.

On the other, I'm even dumber for responding in this dumb thread.

I'm dumb, you're dumb, this game is dumb.

Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Mr Epeen

Do anything you want to anyone's eve assets. In game, say anything you want within the EULA/TOS. Out of game, Trollish Blog/EN24/TMC/various forum posts are ok.

Repeated humiliation sessions over voice comms or other third party programs are not ok. The line in the sand was drawn pretty fcking clearly; a lot of people just refuse to see it.

And honestly, there aren't many people in the Eve community that sink so low as to warrant a ban by these standards. In fact, I only know of one such case.

As if it's hard to create an account solely for doing dirt, which in no way jeopardizes your clean accounts should your dirty accounts be banned.

If someone complains because their account got banned after doing some dirty, they did it wrong. Hell I bet even St. Veldspar has accounts he uses for shady ****.

As if it's hard to create an account solely for doing dirt, which in no way jeopardizes your clean accounts should your dirty accounts be banned.

If someone complains because their account got banned after doing some dirty, they did it wrong. Hell I bet even St. Veldspar has accounts he uses for shady ****.

Yes it's safe.


Unless you have a CSM blog about it.

Edit: We really don't need another thread on this tbh.

I share the basic concern of the OP. It seems that a lynch mob can now form and get you banned regardless of wether or not you actually broke any rules.

Personally I don't understand the desire to become a space-telemarketer or a space nigerian prince.

What's the appeal here? Maybe its just me but the amount this goes on seems to have increased substantially since I started playing EVE.

Glad its clear to you. Oh, btw, it was only one session. Until that day, E1 hadn't met the guy.

If your afraid of the consequences maybe you shouldn't turn to a life of crime.

In game or out? Ive lost track

MadGäó will do that to a person.

Mr Epeen

HOW I NOT GET BAN, GUYS?!

IB4TL

In game or out? Ive lost track

In game or out? Ive lost track

No. You will get banned.

Do not upset anyone, ever, anywhere.

You have been warned.

There is no difference, if you are the bad guy there is always a chance of "justice" catching up with you. Whether it's criminal justice, social justice or mob justice. If you cross a certain line, you will be caught. That is the price you pay in real life and as shown by recent events in Eve too. In essence it's the risk/reward factor for being a criminal.

Only where people on both sides of the fence don't know how to draw the line.

Playing a villain in game should never lead to out of game consequences or threats if playing the villain is done completely within the rules.

Unfortunately they do occur though because those that think they are in the righteous group, don't know how to draw an appropriate line either.

Unfortunately it is hard to track anyone down in EVE, and thus the "mob" makes real world threats and attacks.

Ofc all this is bad publicity for CCP, who have a duty to prevent criminal actions arising out of their business practices.

If you bully and aggravate someone who has suicidal tendencies, tell them to go kill themselves and then they do...

No I don't think you should be banned.. I think you should be grabbed by the balls and thrown off the tallest building in a 100 mile radius.. why no further than 100 miles? You aren't worth the petrol.

Hopefully you would have enough time whilst falling in mid-air to think about your actions.

Only where people on both sides of the fence don't know how to draw the line.

Playing a villain in game should never lead to out of game consequences or threats if playing the villain is done completely within the rules.

Unfortunately they do occur though because those that think they are in the righteous group, don't know how to draw an appropriate line either.

If you bully and aggravate someone who has suicidal tendencies, tell them to go kill themselves and then they do...

No I don't think you should be banned.. I think you should be grabbed by the balls and thrown off the tallest building in a 100 mile radius.. why no further than 100 miles? You aren't worth the petrol.

Hopefully you would have enough time whilst falling in mid-air to think about your actions.

If you bully and aggravate someone who has suicidal tendencies, tell them to go kill themselves and then they do...

If your playing a villian you have to break some rules or you're not a villian.

THIS is why EVE has always BEEN a great game in the past and wont be anymore: The shades of grey the rules USED to be.

you're having your fingers in lalala land and play the butt

PLAYING the bad guy in game is perfectly fine.
Actually being an evil person and just using the game to pick your victims for torture is not.

I have never scammed or cheated another player in this game. But the players that DO scam make the game more fun for me. Awoxers make recruiting a FUN, INTERESTING event with reason not to just accept anyone in. If they do make it in, the game goes to the next level and the corp has to deal with an awoxer! Much better than killing red crosses! Gives you a chance to see the mettle of your corpmates and the resilience of your corp.

I have thought of making a new character to do a safari, like on the Eve Villain blog. However, after the banning of Erotica1 I have been second guessing this. If one of the people I awox has a mental disorder, or exaggerates any emotional anguish, can my account(s) be banned without warning if I cross this invisible line? I don't plan to 'torture' anyone and knowing myself I will probably feel bad after an Orca dies and reimburse the guy I kill. But you never know how people will take losing their space pixels...

My question is this: How can I 'safely' play a bad guy without putting my subscription at risk? What is the 'invisible line' defined as? (I hear suicide comments every 2 seconds in local, but if they say they will kill themselves if they don't get their stuff back is that an auto-win against scamming?)

**Edit: Saw the similar posts. Sorry to basically repost.

I have never scammed or cheated another player in this game. But the players that DO scam make the game more fun for me. Awoxers make recruiting a FUN, INTERESTING event with reason not to just accept anyone in. If they do make it in, the game goes to the next level and the corp has to deal with an awoxer! Much better than killing red crosses! Gives you a chance to see the mettle of your corpmates and the resilience of your corp.

I have thought of making a new character to do a safari, like on the Eve Villain blog. However, after the banning of Erotica1 I have been second guessing this. If one of the people I awox has a mental disorder, or exaggerates any emotional anguish, can my account(s) be banned without warning if I cross this invisible line? I don't plan to 'torture' anyone and knowing myself I will probably feel bad after an Orca dies and reimburse the guy I kill. But you never know how people will take losing their space pixels...

My question is this: How can I 'safely' play a bad guy without putting my subscription at risk? What is the 'invisible line' defined as? (I hear suicide comments every 2 seconds in local, but if they say they will kill themselves if they don't get their stuff back is that an auto-win against scamming?)

**Edit: Saw the similar posts. Sorry to basically repost.

I have never scammed or cheated another player in this game. But the players that DO scam make the game more fun for me. Awoxers make recruiting a FUN, INTERESTING event with reason not to just accept anyone in. If they do make it in, the game goes to the next level and the corp has to deal with an awoxer! Much better than killing red crosses! Gives you a chance to see the mettle of your corpmates and the resilience of your corp.

I have thought of making a new character to do a safari, like on the Eve Villain blog. However, after the banning of Erotica1 I have been second guessing this. If one of the people I awox has a mental disorder, or exaggerates any emotional anguish, can my account(s) be banned without warning if I cross this invisible line? I don't plan to 'torture' anyone and knowing myself I will probably feel bad after an Orca dies and reimburse the guy I kill. But you never know how people will take losing their space pixels...

My question is this: How can I 'safely' play a bad guy without putting my subscription at risk? What is the 'invisible line' defined as? (I hear suicide comments every 2 seconds in local, but if they say they will kill themselves if they don't get their stuff back is that an auto-win against scamming?)

**Edit: Saw the similar posts. Sorry to basically repost.

Sadly, some members of the community, including Ripard, want the zero risk, zero drama themepark. Thats what all this drama is about at the end of the day: A campaign to reduce how big of a d-bag you can be to other players. That's his shtick.

I mean Ripard honestly believes in the concept of isk tanking, and that if his ship cost X, then it should cost you greater than X to kill it.

And players who don't abide by that concept, and use a cheap fit catalysts to kill 250m exhumers, well he'll compare those players to rapists and the like in order to try and make people hate them.

He's the scummiest blogger/csm/whatever I know about, even worse now that he's actively using his visibility to CCP and the wider games media to pressure CCP directly.

We like being filthy rich.

pedos

fetishistic behavior

greifing

Ban riptard then he can stop crying about all the bad people in eve and why its ruining his hello kitty island adventure game. I have his real name btw.

Whats wrong with liking feet and pictures of shoes anyway?