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Saeris Tal'Urduar
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:30:00 -
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Is this where I place my order?
I'll take a General Tso's Chicken 5 star "*****" hot, please.
With fried rice, and pot stickers.
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Ackhillies
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:32:00 -
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Wow, ok- as far as I know everytime EVE has crashed and the servers went down by something unforseeable- we have all gotten +x amount of days/hrs added to our accounts. As for extended downtimes during patches and upgrades, get used to it or get out of our game cuz you're the ppl who are ruining it for the rest of us.
And to all those that say CCP will loose RL money/players, haven't played for very long. I remember not too long ago loggin in to find 10k ppl online at peak times, now i log in to 22k+. So I don't think they care if a few whinning *****es leave. Truth is, they don't want you here anyway.
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Red Horseman
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:34:00 -
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Edited by: Red Horseman on 12/05/2006 06:35:18
Edited by: Red Horseman on 12/05/2006 06:34:18
 Originally by: Solo Drakban
Infact, they don't even have to refund you if one of the devs, in the middle of working to correct these problems related to upgrading the GAME service's hardware to shiny new toys to make the GAME go faster and smoother, stops to check the forums to see what people are saying, reads the crys of the masses whimpering in despair because they can't access their GAME, *****s under the strain and goes and whizzes all over the new electric toys, lighting them on fire from the short circuits created.
I think you've stumbled upon the true cause of the delays 
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[DKOD] Marine
HAF Gang Commander
Meine Sachen will ich pflegen
Den Rest in Schutt und Asche legen
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spRAYed
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:36:00 -
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[idiot#2867]Jeez CCP, u guys really cant do anything right, omg!
I mean, i play wow and stuff, and u know, its like much much better service!!!!111one.
So u know, i would like ehm, u know....ehm moneh?
[/idiot#2867]
Must stop idiots......must....stop....
Willie needs help, he's blind and cant chew his own fish.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:36:00 -
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Personally, I don't care. If the game runs better once it's back up, then it's time well spent.
Take a good look around at other MMO's, how many other companies spend so much time and money in upgrading the hardware for the users to enjoy better gameplay? Many of the others just shut the server down forever once the servers can no longer take the strain and don't bother to replace them. I don't see the likes of Blizzard and Microshaft spending the money they got from subs in hardware to make the game better. All I see is a big back pocket bulging with bank notes as the servers grind to a halt under the load. Then it's "so long and thanks for all the fish" as they take down the servers, pack them up and head off to the Riviera to spend it all.
Cutt CCP some slack, when they upgraded all the servers, they were back online before schedule. This time, they hit a glitch.
Sh*t happens.
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Ravynwood
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:41:00 -
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lol ... wow!!! Didn't thing my original post would spark the exictment in some and the ignorance in others. Refer to the orginal post and notice the smily face at the end. Since i had the free time as I wasn't blowing stuff up :) Thought i'd check out the forums.
And as with any board like this people read a few lines and snap back with witty snoty remarks, placing words into others mouths, most of which are a garbled mix of what others have said.
I could care less about a refund really and as far as the nice new upgrades i am sure they will be great... thats what we pay for right? Good to see a company put it's profits back into it's product. |
Selfrightous Fury
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Red Horseman
From the EULA:
"All subscription fees are in U.S. Dollars or Euros and are non-refundable unless expressly stated otherwise in the EULA."
"The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind."
Translation: No refund.
yeah thats a standard get out clause you will find on almost all MMO's other MMO's have given free days to compensate for lost game time. they dont have to to but it is good for customer relations.
Originally by: Red Horseman
As for WoW, I played that game for a month and it sucked, I complained and I never got a dime back. 
Odd coze wow refunded me about a weeks worth of playing time over the 9 months I played it. althought it was because of major lag issues and lots of people lost more than a weeks worth of playing time.
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Da Death
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:42:00 -
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CCP only wants to make EVE BETTER FOR US - people try to understand it. It is a bad situation for ccp. They invest money and resources to make a better game and instead getting hugged by us for their sacrifice, we flame at them. Thats not fair. All of know that hardware/software not allways work the way it should be.
So cut them some slack!
Absolution - Curse - T2 Laser Crystals - T2 Drones and more -> check Bio
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Princess Ghost
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ravynwood
Moved to General Discussion - Xorus
I noticed last time there was an extended downtime for upgrades there was never an offer by CCP to accomedate the members who do actually subscribe to the service. Payed for 30 days and got 29. Just curious if we are still going to be billed for the 30 days or the 29 as a result of this even more extended downtime... :)
Ravynwwod
An extra day has only been added to everyones account once in the time that I've been with EVE (since Feb 04) however the "are we going to get days added to our accounts???" pop up everytime we have upgrades or patches.
The answer should be no shortly followed by a click.
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Lucrende Slinkna
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:44:00 -
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Well, after reading everything said so far, I'm fully under the opinion, that they can keep my .44 cents, because to me.. the game cost me 5.00 to buy if you break it down and did the download instead of buying it in a store. Which need I remind the other MMO players that when you goto the store and buy the game to play costs around 50.00 USD so.. I still owe them roughly 49.56 ;) but if you need the math.. first month on a pay account is 19.95, then each month re-occuring is 14.95.. a difference of 5.00 Computers crash, hardware doesn't meet up, it happens. It's happend plenty to me in my time with my own computer. Asking for a refund is like asking a car dealership to stop payments while your car is in the shop being worked on or repaired. It won't happen. CCP has done amazing things in my eyes, granted I haven't played that long but what other MMO can boast of having 20k players all on at the same time on the same server. These people are breaking all the previous set limitations for us by other MMO's. Oh and Ravyn, I sympathize with you on the dishes/laundry thing... unfortunately, at this time I don't have anyone to give that excuse to :P
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Ravynwood
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:45:00 -
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oh and it was think not thing and i think snoty should have been snotty :) didn't wanna get flamed for be illiterete or anything... then again... that wouldn't happen in a great forum like this now would it :)
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Dinique
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:45:00 -
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Firstly, the amount of money 'lost' to the downtime is trivial. But that also means a refund wouldn't be a big deal anyway. Putting everyone's billing date one day on would be the nice thing to do. But I don't really care either way.
The dev that turned on the forums should have taken 2 minutes and make a little post here to give people an update. Someone from CCP should have posted SOMETING in an official capacity, even if its "We are still experiencing problems, servers will be up ASAP but we can't give you a timeframe at this stage". Because something is better than nothing in this case.
And the people flaming people who are whining/asking for refunds/whatever: Shut up, please. You are worse than the whiners, it doesn't make you seem mature/smart/whatever you are trying to prove. And NO TomB will NOT descend from the heavens to give you a hug and to tell you that you're his favourite subscriber ever (you're not).
I can't help but get this mental image of kids whining for their candy, and then the one brother/sister trying to act all big and mature by telling them to be patient and "its only a game, err... candy" and then grinning pathetically at the mom for approval.
So basically what I am saying is: CCP make a post, and the rest of you STFU or, alternatively, FOAD.
:)
PS. Planning your skill training for REALLY extended downtime FTW
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The Shamen
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:47:00 -
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STFU whining. FFS. Get a job / Life.
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DJ P
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:52:00 -
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I'm laughing reading all those similar threads.
As some logical people mention. EVE is game. Who cares about skill training, refunds etc.
But nowhere to found people complaining that they didn't made any ISK to sell on ebay, and lost 1 "working" day.
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Cletus Graeme
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:53:00 -
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Whilst I sympathise with all those itching for EVE to come back online (myself included) I think we should get some perspective here.
This is a MAJOR upgrade which should significantly improve performance & playability in the long run.
CCP are putting in a lot of effort in now for OUR benefit aswell as their own & I for one appreciate the investment in new technology which shows commitment to both the game & player community (not to mention sound business sense !)
So cut them some slack people ! I'm sure many of you have some experience of I.T. projects & are aware just how difficult it is to give accurate completion ETAs.
If anything I would suggest EVE be MORE pessimistic in future & give themselves 24hrs downtime for upgardes so that people
(1) Don't make silly assumptions about when they EVE will be back up & train longer skills
(2) Don't whine about not being able to play for a day - honestly, go out and get a life ! I had to tell this to myself yesterday too :)
If we are still twiddling our thumbs this time tommorow then I'd say you might have a case for complaining but atm there are more important things we could all be doing with our time than moaning about a little extra downtime in here....
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Ravynwood
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:54:00 -
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Ah crap!!!! I forgot about the isk i can't sell... ah now i'm ****ed for real :) |
Wesley Harding
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:56:00 -
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Amazing how every time this happens, someone complains, like it wasn't expected.
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Ravynwood
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:59:00 -
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430 sec... i knew this thread would get it back online quicker :P |
Spartanicus
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:59:00 -
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I don't really care about a day refund.
But I have never played a MMO that had a long downtime like this. But I guess they need to get new hardware online. Which is good because I really hate getting Gate Locked and taking 3 restarts to get through a jump gate.
So I will not complain if it runs better. Wish I would have paid attention and trained a longer time skill. ... Oh well.
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Adreanna Akira
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: RutsDC
Originally by: Adreanna Akira
Originally by: RutsDC
They even adviced you in the news to train a long skill, Adreanna. Don't think they have any obligation to refund you in this case.
Don't get me wrong. I love CCP from the day that i put in a GM ticket and got a response in the first 3 minutes. But would you pay full price for a movie ticket to only get the see the last 5 minutes??
Adreanna, I think your comparison to a film is halting. This is more the case of the film projector being temporarily out of order. You still get to see the whole film and, since this is a hardware upgrade, you get to see it in full colour with surround sound. ;)
I went to the Movies and the projecter broke. But the film kept rolling. By the time they fixed the progectors there was only 5 mins of film left. If i wanted to see it again i'd have to pay for another ticket. That sounds fair. Sorry for posting here.
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tyrol
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:07:00 -
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Edited by: tyrol on 12/05/2006 07:08:23
i bet most people whining about wanting credit have only missed out on 1 maybe 2 hours of gameplay anyway.
i play eve a lot, in my opinion its like me asking for credit everytime i dont log in for over 24 hours, cos im paying for something im not using.
I and everyone else was aware of this downtime for quite sometime, we were warned to train long skills, long skills being more than 24 hours so anyone whining about lost training time should just have a think about how silly they are to have not heeded the warning
just a typical patch/upgrade day imo
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Copine Callmeknau
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:07:00 -
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Anyone noticed that the avatars of most of the people whining for extra time are a '!'?
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With five million sheep in this army
I seem to be the only one fit to command
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Spartanicus
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:10:00 -
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its up now anyway so.... who cares.
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Melissa Vorair
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:10:00 -
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I am playing Eve-online for a longer time, and know i am realy ****ed off, i lost the Bet in My Corp and have to pay. I Bet on 3.43 ... just before the initial Down.
I am just loosing 1M the Hour cause i couldn't line Up an reactor at one Pos before Dt i had 30 mins to few, but all posses have 5 days fuel cause i know Dt's in eve and Long Skill means, a skill with at least two days. Normaly 4-5 Days. In the first years CCP was very generous about free Days. But with the masses of new players they are not so depending on old players. And Castor was far more unstable in the first month.
I will cheer on a 1 Day free day. But i don't expect one realy, then the reason for giving players one day refound is to keep them in eve. Eventually we got too many players.
We got one of the best Servers of the world, with the fastest Harddrives in the World.
The WoW Servers are Tiny against it as they are small server with small world. We got the biggest consisting world. in Eve it's all the Maximum skale, so it's tricky to keep it up, the Next Game server ist about 3-5 Times Smaller.
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Xantiln
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:13:00 -
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I have only been playing a few month, the last time tey upgraded the same thread was going. I like the fact that they upgrade and don't slum lord us like some companies. Don't want anything but a better game with more players. |
Meutrich
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Aeon Yakati
How about you get billed for the massive hardware upgrades they've done of the last couple of months?
How about you get billed for each and every expansion while we're at it?
Stop wasting everyone's time over $0,50
I, for my part, pay 15 EUR a month per account for the entire game, that includes hardware upgrades, expansions, maintenance and customer service. I don't know about you, but sounds like you are having a free of charge account. Congrats on that, keep it this way. You are most likely the only one, so you should try to sneak out here, before CCP gets on your heels.
As you are most likely the only one not paying for the game, all others pay for the game. Assuming a number of 100.000 accounts is not that wrong, each of this accounts paying 50 ct per day is also not a bad guess, so CCP gets an amazing 50.000 EUR for that downtime, assuming it is just a 24 hour downtime. This is quite a lot over here. For you, it might be pocket money, i don't know.
I agree, that in case of such a long, unexpected downtime (which might have been avoided with a better planning and testing before the actual rollout, who knows), CCP should act and reimburse the time.
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:18:00 -
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Please stop moaning and asking for this.
I believe it has happened before, but people start moaning and whining about the problems as soon as they happen.
I believe the extra content and updates we get from Eve are more than worth the minor irritations. A day off Eve isn't so bad. Its sunny. Go outside.
I do however, have one request.
All the devs, GMs and especially community managers should henceforth add the surname 'Murphy' to their names.
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Spartanicus
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:21:00 -
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Raven for everyone!
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:33:00 -
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Edited by: Drizit on 12/05/2006 07:33:31
Tune in for more threads like this in the next exciting installment of -
Extended Downtime.
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:33:00 -
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Short and sweet: All people who want a refund **** right off.
I have a suggestion. CCP should let people reclaim their lost day. They refund the person all game time paid for after the start of the downtime, then delete their account. They can then start over with their 50 cents intact.
It seems only fair that if you want money back from CCP for a day where you weren't using their resources, they should make it so you weren't using any of their resources.
That's not even taking into consideration the fact that the downtime has been caused by CCP upgrading the hardware. To take that into consideration, I would have to gather all the ********s who want a refund, strap some dynamite onto my back, and run at them screaming as the fuse burned down.
Not worth it.
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