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Sibyyl
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:18:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:You could probably get into an incursion fleet with a 6 month skilled logi toon I suspect. It does need a good ship though, but selling a PLEX or two can achieve that. Well, as a 3 month character that seems like a high SP barrier to entry for me (compared to other things you can do in game). I think it's bad that the activity isn't particularly accessible to gankers, doesn't require a lot of user keyboard interaction, and that the income stream is so high. It's risk-free ISK injected into the system (on top of being ISK from PVE and not from another player) and I can't imagine it helps the price for PLEX or runaway ISK inflation in any way.
/Fÿ¡ Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4414
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:19:00 -
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What, no one has posted this yet?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Michael Ruckert
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:24:00 -
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Posting in stealth "income inequality to play EVE" thread. "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20693
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:26:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX. That would make sense if it weren't for their making more money on people using PLEX than people paying for a regular subscription. Oh, and for the whole GÇ£create ISK out of nowhereGÇ¥. Oh, and for the GÇ£they're giving away tons of PLEX right nowGÇ¥. So yeah, it doesn't actually make any sense at all. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
273
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:26:00 -
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tiewan wrote:Mxxpower wrote: no one who plays this game for any length of time has only one account. I am fairly casual, and have several accounts myself. The skill system design requires alts of one sort or another. I disagree. Never had the desire to pay for more than one account.
Same. Little over four years, and the only time I had another account going (on plex) was a couple years back I wanted a link alt, but ended up never using the only character on that account and let it laps last year. Never paid for more than one. |

Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
282
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:28:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX. Yeah, that's why there is an event starting tomorrow that will be giving away literally hundreds of free PLEX. 
Maybe that's why it went up, because of all those hundreds of plex they bought to give away.
Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. Black Flag Society
221
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:32:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX.
a sub goes for like $12 a month for a year. Plex are $19.95 each no matter what. Explain to me how they make more money this way?
that's not to say I don't believe it is happening but they dress it up as a way of degrading the power of botters and rmt.
True or not who knows. I don't have alts so for me all I see is a potential to make a quick couple of billion off an hours wages. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4624
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:32:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX. Yeah, that's why there is an event starting tomorrow that will be giving away literally hundreds of free PLEX.  Maybe that's why it went up, because of all those hundreds of plex they bought to give away.
CCP generates their own plex.
Increasing the supply would not increase the price. Economics.
In all likelihood, the culprit is the refining changes combined with the influx of new players following BR-5. More demand, unchanged supply, higher prices. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20693
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:33:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Maybe that's why it went up, because of all those hundreds of plex they bought to give away. You mean the ones they didn't get by buying them?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
976
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:38:00 -
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The plex they are giving away at the live event is from seized RMT assets. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

Gwar Anzomi
Corporation of industrious Latvian potatoe farmers
2
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:40:00 -
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Gustav Mannfred wrote:As the title says, the PLEX prices raised in the past few weeks by more then 100 mil  Im wondering why that happened and the plexprices contimues raising.
Normal supply demand combined with a percentage rise due to posts such as yours and responses such as mine.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
282
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:41:00 -
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So then exactly 100% without a doubt, what is the precise reason PLEX went up to 740m? Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20693
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:42:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:So then exactly 100% without a doubt, what is the precise reason PLEX went up to 740m? More people are using them for an ever-increasing number of services, and fewer (or the same) amount of people than before are buying them for real money. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4624
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:43:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:So then exactly 100% without a doubt, what is the precise reason PLEX went up to 740m?
It's a heavily inter-related economy, there are a number of causes.
Your conspiracy theory bullshit is not one of them. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
282
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:45:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So then exactly 100% without a doubt, what is the precise reason PLEX went up to 740m? It's a heavily inter-related economy, there are a number of causes. Your conspiracy theory bullshit is not one of them.
There's no proof it's not correct. Is it though? Probably not. Does that mean, considering this is all speculation anyways, that it's less fun to speculate the cause being a CCP driven conspiracy?
Nope Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. Black Flag Society
221
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:46:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX. Yeah, that's why there is an event starting tomorrow that will be giving away literally hundreds of free PLEX.  Maybe that's why it went up, because of all those hundreds of plex they bought to give away. CCP generates their own plex. Increasing the supply would not increase the price. Economics. In all likelihood, the culprit is the refining changes combined with the influx of new players following BR-5. More demand, unchanged supply, higher prices.
if anything you'd think they would go down thanks to newbies cashing in and under cutting each other for quick isk. Maybe the newbies simply haven't hit the pay-wall yet LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20696
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:47:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:There's no proof it's not correct. GǪaside from it having no basis in reality, which makes it false by default.
Quote:This is more likely the cause than my suggestion, but mine, IMO, is alot more fun to consider. Not really, no.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4624
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:48:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:
There's no proof it's not correct. Is it though? Probably not. Does that mean, considering this is all speculation anyways, that it's less fun to speculate the cause being a CCP driven conspiracy?
Nope.
I have no proof that the polished rock on my desk *doesn't* keep away tigers.
I have no proof it does either, but I don't see any tigers.
Isn't doublethink lovely? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
282
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:There's no proof it's not correct. GǪaside from it having no basis in reality, which makes it false by default. Quote:This is more likely the cause than my suggestion, but mine, IMO, is alot more fun to consider. Not really, no.
your opinion Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
282
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:50:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
There's no proof it's not correct. Is it though? Probably not. Does that mean, considering this is all speculation anyways, that it's less fun to speculate the cause being a CCP driven conspiracy?
Nope.
I have no proof that the polished rock on my desk *doesn't* keep away tigers. I have no proof it does either, but I don't see any tigers. Isn't doublethink lovely?
That sounds like a really cool rock.
Do you have one that protects against bears? There's a bear problem here. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20697
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:53:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:your opinion Not really, no. What you're engaging in is a classic onus probandi fallacy. It's not humorous, just (wilfully) ignorant. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
127
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:54:00 -
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Jessica Duranin wrote:Just ban ISBoxing and PLEX prices will drop VERY quickly. 
awwww, did I mine your fresh ice asteroid wiff all my bad Procurers in under 3 minutes? I Sorry.
No I'm not. 
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EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 50Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
282
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:55:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:your opinion Not really, no. What you're engaging in is a classic onus probandi fallacy. It's not humorous, just ignorant.
Then ignore it.
The only reason you're becoming affected by my posting is because you're choosing to allow it.
You can't prove me wrong 100%. All of this is speculation unless CCP themselves reveals exactly what happened.
So until then,
*speculate wildly* Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4626
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:57:00 -
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"You can't prove my wild bullshit statements 100% wrong"
And that makes any of it true? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
282
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:57:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:"You can't prove my wild bullshit statements 100% wrong"
And that makes any of it true?
Does it matter? Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
976
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:There's no proof it's not correct. GǪaside from it having no basis in reality, which makes it false by default. Quote:This is more likely the cause than my suggestion, but mine, IMO, is alot more fun to consider. Not really, no. He's asking for proof of a negative. You should know better... Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20697
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:59:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Then ignore it. I know you have a fondness for lying, but that's not a good reason to let you keep doing it.
Quote:You can't prove me wrong 100%. I don't have to. You're wrong by default, even more so when the actual reasons are fairly well known and readily obvious. You prove yourself 100% wrong by failing to prove yourself even 1% right. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4626
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:59:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:"You can't prove my wild bullshit statements 100% wrong"
And that makes any of it true? Does it matter?
That you not only cannot prove your own statements to be true, but also believe that they stand up without any proof?
Yeah, that matters. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
282
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Then ignore it. I know you have a fondness for lying, but that's not a good reason to let you keep doing it. Quote:You can't prove me wrong 100%. I don't have you. You're wrong by default, even more so when the actual reasons are fairly well known and readily obvious. You prove yourself 100% wrong by failing to prove yourself even 1% right.
Does it matter?
This entire thread is speculation. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4626
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:01:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Then ignore it. I know you have a fondness for lying, but that's not a good reason to let you keep doing it. Quote:You can't prove me wrong 100%. I don't have you. You're wrong by default, even more so when the actual reasons are fairly well known and readily obvious. You prove yourself 100% wrong by failing to prove yourself even 1% right. Does it matter? This entire thread is speculation.
And I see you didn't read the first post, either. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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