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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.05.12 23:55:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Astrum Ludus
Knocked this up in QF, no implants factored in.
Apocalypse Imperial Issue
HIGH-SLOTS :
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> [2475 | 39] Mega Pulse Laser II
> [2475 | 39] Mega Pulse Laser II
> [2475 | 39] Mega Pulse Laser II
> [2475 | 39] Mega Pulse Laser II
> [2475 | 39] Mega Pulse Laser II
> [2475 | 39] Mega Pulse Laser II
> [2475 | 39] Mega Pulse Laser II
> [ 228 | 25] Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
MED-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 17] Chelm's Modified Cap Recharger
> [ 1 | 17] Chelm's Modified Cap Recharger
> [1750 | 40] True Sansha Heavy Capacitor Booster
> [2100 | 18] Naiyon's Modified Stasis Webifier
LOW-SLOTS :
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> [2800 | 46] Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer
> [2800 | 46] Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer
> [ 1 | 28] Core X-Type Armor EM Hardener
> [ 1 | 28] Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener
> [ 1 | 28] Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
> [ 1 | 28] Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
> [ 2 | 32] Centum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
> [ 2 | 32] Centum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
ArmorHP: 10937
EM: 93.56%
Ex: 87.12%
Ki: 87.92%
Th: 89.53%
199.1HP/s Rep rate
Anyone care to factor implants in to that? 
 ... Jesus.. /drool
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.05.13 00:18:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Frools
it does tank better, just doesnt tank as long 
Ah, the gank tank :D. Or, as a friend of mine puts it, "If it's dead before we are, it's all good".
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.05.13 00:27:00 -
[63]
Errr, this rly is a stupid thread.
First off, how do you define 'best tank'?
One that can run forever on cap recharge (vs low fire)?
One that will survive most seconds vs heavy fire?
One that will be best vs 'moderate' fire?
No matter what it's rly simple:
arma = most lows = best armor tank.
scorp = most meds = best shield tank.
And with 'standard gear' shield and armor is balanced.
Looking at 'pimped gear', shield tanks are insanely overpowered, and hence the answer is rattlesnake or sleipnir (depending on situation).
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Ditscher
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Posted - 2006.05.14 20:05:00 -
[64]
it not all about meds and lows, its the combination.
you need cap, to keep the tank running.
btw: the impoc fitting with all the named stuff: wouldnt it be better to use three reppers and loose 1 adaptive? with the imps thast reduce repair duration and increase repair amount, that must be a high amount of damage-repaired per second...
and wouldnŠt a nightmare be better? 4 cruiser launcher (no cap use), some nos (depends on grid and cpu), 3 chelms cr and 1 true sansha cap booster, 3 large (chelm) repper, 4 damage specefic hardener and 1 adaptive.
nightmare better, because her offense weapons dosent need cap, have 10k base armor, and cap musst be stable (if quickfit works)
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.05.14 20:29:00 -
[65]
Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: LUKEC
(just to mention, arma tanks better than apoc).
Pardon ?
Please explain
bob = brain damage ? :))
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Dragy
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Posted - 2006.05.14 20:33:00 -
[66]
"5% maximum Capacitor Capacity per level." so i think not :)
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.05.14 23:30:00 -
[67]
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: LUKEC
(just to mention, arma tanks better than apoc).
Pardon ?
Please explain
bob = brain damage ? :))
We got something from SA, check dalman's post above.
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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.05.15 00:01:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Sangue Sacerdote
Apocalypse can sustain 3x large armor reps II with a full load of hards with 4x cap II's and 2x heavy nossies indefinitely.
i'd say that's a pretty nice tank.
pointless if u dont have the cap to fight back though. might aswell fill the low slots with warp core stabs
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.05.15 00:20:00 -
[69]
Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
Originally by: Sangue Sacerdote
Apocalypse can sustain 3x large armor reps II with a full load of hards with 4x cap II's and 2x heavy nossies indefinitely.
i'd say that's a pretty nice tank.
pointless if u dont have the cap to fight back though. might aswell fill the low slots with warp core stabs
4 Dual heavy pulses t2
4 dimish heavy nosfs
3 t2 cap rechargers
Best named heavy cap booster(with 800 charges)
2 t2 large reps
1 Large 'acco'
3 T2 energized adaptives
Best named damage control
3 Heavy drones
Go ahead and try it.
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FraXy
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Posted - 2006.05.16 18:31:00 -
[70]
Edited by: FraXy on 16/05/2006 18:31:14
Did some dreaming during easter holidays about a Rattlesnake fitting:
[High] - 6x Cruise Launcher II, 2x True Sansha Heavy Nosferatu
[Mid] - Gist X-type XL, Gist X-type EM, Gist X-type Thermal, 3x Dread Gurista Invulnerability
[Low] - 6x True Sansha PDU (True Sansha for the cool factor)
High-Grade Crystal Implant Set:
1030/4 = 257.5 HP/s + 55 HP/s Passive Regen = 312.5 HP/sec Max Regen
I don`t remember the roughly calculated resist using this info:
1.st Module = 100% effectivenes
2.th Modules = 87% effectiveness
3.rd Modules = 57% effectiveness
4.th Modules = 33% effectiveness
5.th Modules = 12% effectiveness
But the tank was capable of tanking this DPS forever aslong as the XL had enough cap:
EM - 2200 DPS
Thermal/Expl - 2700 DPS
Kinetic - 3700 DPS (With this high Kinetic i must`ve calculated with 3x Gist X-type hardeners and 2x DG Invulnerabilities)
Estimated cost of entire setup/ship/implants was roughly 6 Bill.
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FraXy
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Posted - 2006.05.16 18:51:00 -
[71]
==[ RATTLESNAKE ]==
Powergrid : 11594.2 / 18326.706 MW
CPU : 817.8 / 875.0 tf
Capacitor (regen) : 7119.258 Energy (406.64sec)
Max Cap Regen : 42.89 per sec (approx.)
Max Cap Needed : 58.337 per sec
Shield HP (regen) : 16402.771 (880.27sec)
Max Shield Regen : 46.58 per sec (approx.)
Shield EM : 82.06 %
Shield Explo : 85.09 %
Shield Kinetic : 89.24 %
Shield Thermal : 85.65 %
HIGH-SLOTS :
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- [1181 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
- [1181 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
- [1181 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
- [1181 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
- [1181 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
- [1181 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
- [2000 | 50] True Sansha Heavy Nosferatu
- [2000 | 50] True Sansha Heavy Nosferatu
MED-SLOTS :
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- [ 500 | 170] Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
- [ 0 | 40] Gist X-Type Photon Scattering Field
- [ 0 | 40] Gist X-Type Heat Dissipation Field
- [ 0 | 40] Gist X-Type Ballistic Deflection Field
- [ 0 | 27] Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
- [ 0 | 27] Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
LOW-SLOTS :
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- [ 1 | 17] Internal Force Field Array I
- [ 0 | 12] True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
- [ 0 | 12] True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
- [ 0 | 12] True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
- [ 0 | 12] True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
- [ 0 | 12] True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
Ran it through QuickFit. Got some cap issues, but if u are willing to spend this on a ship then get some Officer PDUs.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.05.16 19:16:00 -
[72]
Originally by: FraXy
Edited by: FraXy on 16/05/2006 18:31:14
Did some dreaming during easter holidays about a Rattlesnake fitting:
[High] - 6x Cruise Launcher II, 2x True Sansha Heavy Nosferatu
[Mid] - Gist X-type XL, Gist X-type EM, Gist X-type Thermal, 3x Dread Gurista Invulnerability
[Low] - 6x True Sansha PDU (True Sansha for the cool factor)
High-Grade Crystal Implant Set:
1030/4 = 257.5 HP/s + 55 HP/s Passive Regen = 312.5 HP/sec Max Regen
I don`t remember the roughly calculated resist using this info:
1.st Module = 100% effectivenes
2.th Modules = 87% effectiveness
3.rd Modules = 57% effectiveness
4.th Modules = 33% effectiveness
5.th Modules = 12% effectiveness
But the tank was capable of tanking this DPS forever aslong as the XL had enough cap:
EM - 2200 DPS
Thermal/Expl - 2700 DPS
Kinetic - 3700 DPS (With this high Kinetic i must`ve calculated with 3x Gist X-type hardeners and 2x DG Invulnerabilities)
Estimated cost of entire setup/ship/implants was roughly 6 Bill.
I think the rattlesnake fitting on the screenshot posted earlier is just about the ultimate rattlesnake (officer>faction)
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Killer Dragon
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Posted - 2006.05.16 19:52:00 -
[73]
Originally by: TheKiller8
Well I'd say this is a pretty strong tank.
And the Damage-per-Second isn't too shabby either.
Ill trade u something for all of it :D
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Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2006.05.17 07:34:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Hydrogen
Originally by: TheKiller8
Well I'd say this is a pretty strong tank.
And the Damage-per-Second isn't too shabby either.
That tank is plain nuts  Good one - now where can we 1vs1 with you having that stuff on?
Try test server. This is not from TQ.
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FraXy
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:17:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Deathbarrage
Originally by: FraXy
Edited by: FraXy on 16/05/2006 18:31:14
Did some dreaming during easter holidays about a Rattlesnake fitting:
[High] - 6x Cruise Launcher II, 2x True Sansha Heavy Nosferatu
[Mid] - Gist X-type XL, Gist X-type EM, Gist X-type Thermal, 3x Dread Gurista Invulnerability
[Low] - 6x True Sansha PDU (True Sansha for the cool factor)
High-Grade Crystal Implant Set:
1030/4 = 257.5 HP/s + 55 HP/s Passive Regen = 312.5 HP/sec Max Regen
I don`t remember the roughly calculated resist using this info:
1.st Module = 100% effectivenes
2.th Modules = 87% effectiveness
3.rd Modules = 57% effectiveness
4.th Modules = 33% effectiveness
5.th Modules = 12% effectiveness
But the tank was capable of tanking this DPS forever aslong as the XL had enough cap:
EM - 2200 DPS
Thermal/Expl - 2700 DPS
Kinetic - 3700 DPS (With this high Kinetic i must`ve calculated with 3x Gist X-type hardeners and 2x DG Invulnerabilities)
Estimated cost of entire setup/ship/implants was roughly 6 Bill.
I think the rattlesnake fitting on the screenshot posted earlier is just about the ultimate rattlesnake (officer>faction)
Yes. but that fitting is actually able to get!!!! OMGZOR, NERF!!!!
The Estamel fitting is about as common as me actually not losing a ship.
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FraXy
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:22:00 -
[76]
And just to point out Maverick.
2x Core X-type Large Repairers:
2520 HP every 15 sec
2520 HP every 11.25 sec with Repair System 5
2520 HP every 10.9125 sec with 3% Armor Repair Cycle Hardwiring (not sure if 5% exist)
2520/10.9125 = 230.9278351 HP/s
Lowest resist of 87.12 or 0.1288 multiplier = 230.93/0.1288 = 1792.9347 ~ 1793 DPS tankable as long as u can sustain the repairers.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.05.17 09:04:00 -
[77]
fraxy, there is 5% rep duration implant.
However i think that core rep is pathetic compared to some gist tanks. And in the end, gist tank is cheaper than core:P
2x core rep = 900mil, you get gist booster + pith amp x 2 for that price. It gets only worse when you start buying hardeners.
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Joshua Deakin
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Posted - 2006.05.17 09:57:00 -
[78]
core x-type large = 400mil *2 = 800mil
Corpus/corpum? large 450-500mil, same efficiency as core x which just uses less cap and reps a little less too.
Gist x-type 800-850mil, pith x 45% (does not drop yet?)
Gist x amp 400+mil 43,5%
And as for Fraxy tank setup I would substitute a hardener or two for an amp or two. I think it would tank more sustainable dps.
A dominix fairs pretty well too with a shield tank.
B-type tank is sustainable with 7*T2 PDS without NOS.
Meds: 2*dread invul 2*gist amps B/X XL booster
Lows: 7*T2 (or 6*T2+dmg control)
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FraXy
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Posted - 2006.05.17 11:10:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Joshua Deakin
core x-type large = 400mil *2 = 800mil
Corpus/corpum? large 450-500mil, same efficiency as core x which just uses less cap and reps a little less too.
Gist x-type 800-850mil, pith x 45% (does not drop yet?)
Gist x amp 400+mil 43,5%
And as for Fraxy tank setup I would substitute a hardener or two for an amp or two. I think it would tank more sustainable dps.
A dominix fairs pretty well too with a shield tank.
B-type tank is sustainable with 7*T2 PDS without NOS.
Meds: 2*dread invul 2*gist amps B/X XL booster
Lows: 7*T2 (or 6*T2+dmg control)
With like Vespa`s modified Invulnerability... 43% Invuln or 46.5% Invulns i would use an Amp also, but i used the mods i could actually afford if i carebeared for half a year instead of the most ultimate setup.
If u want ultimate then Gist X-type XL, 4x Estamel Modified Invulnerability, Chelm Recharger and 6x Draclira`s Modified PDUs.
But with DG Invulns only i think 5 hardeners are better then adding 1-2 amps, but there is 2 different types of tanking.
The 5 hardener needs to be able to run the Gist XL forever pretty much while the 1-2 Amp boosts enough HP with over moderate resists that it don`t need to be run forever.
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