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Chakoth	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:15:00 - [1] Which battleship can be fitted so to be the strongest tank? "No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast." Shakespeare, Richard III
Astrum Proeliator	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:22:00 - [2] Apoc with Dual Large Accom's is pretty damn tough...
B orange	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:23:00 - [3] you can't get an answer on that, it's a silly question..
CptEagle	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:23:00 - [4] Rattlesnake, hands down.
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:24:00 - [5] raven, faction hardeners, faction amps, faction booster and a nice crystal set ftw -------------------Sig----------------------- Boost the raven, i dont know how since its got great volley damage, massive range, any damage type, overpowered tank BUT BOOOOOOOSTTTT them raveneeeeen
B orange	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:26:00 - [6] Originally by: Gronsak raven, faction hardeners, faction amps, faction booster and a nice crystal set ftw what about a scorpion, same fitting?
Astrum Proeliator	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:26:00 - [7] Originally by: Gronsak raven, faction hardeners, faction amps, faction booster and a nice crystal set ftw Endless money 4tw!!
BABARR	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:30:00 - [8] If you only want only a big tank, scorpion for shield and armaggedon whith his 8 low slot for armor tank.
Chakoth	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:37:00 - [9] Well Ive seen some BS fights and they are over very quickly. Seen a raven kill a Dominix around 15-20 secs. So I would like a BS that can take a little more beating than that. "No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast." Shakespeare, Richard III
TheKiller8	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:38:00 - [10] Well I'd say this is a pretty strong tank. And the Damage-per-Second isn't too shabby either. .: Click 2 See My Flash Animations :.
Jin Entres	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:43:00 - [11] Originally by: TheKiller8 Well I'd say this is a pretty strong tank. And the Damage-per-Second isn't too shabby either. drool
Nadec Ascand	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:44:00 - [12] Originally by: TheKiller8 Well I'd say this is a pretty strong tank. And the Damage-per-Second isn't too shabby either. NO IT'S NOT... It's an insane tank...
Hydrogen	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:44:00 - [13] Originally by: TheKiller8 Well I'd say this is a pretty strong tank. And the Damage-per-Second isn't too shabby either. That tank is plain nuts Good one - now where can we 1vs1 with you having that stuff on? AF Guide
zwerg	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:46:00 - [14] Originally by: Chakoth Well Ive seen some BS fights and they are over very quickly. Seen a raven kill a Dominix around 15-20 secs. So I would like a BS that can take a little more beating than that. Damn, 1st possibility : The dominix pilot was a newby 2nd possibility : The Raven Pilot was cheating A raven CAN take down a Domi, but with the right fitting the domi pwns asses. But a Raven can never take down a Domi in 15-20seconds, even with tech II torps. Well i think the best tank on a BS is the Apoc with a whole tank in the lows, look into community created videos there is a vid about a crazy dude in an apoc which tanks concord in 1.0 system ( till aggression countdown is DOWN ) regards, zwerg
Hydrogen	Posted - 2006.05.12 11:54:00 - [15] Just for the curious some links ;) Zealot 1 Zealot 2 The evergreen: Navy Auguror AF Guide
Lord WarATron	Posted - 2006.05.12 12:06:00 - [16] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 12/05/2006 12:11:13 The Original Posters question is simple Which battleship can be fitted so to be the strongest tank? Firstly, let us forget about all this uber officer gear. Virtualy nobody PvP's in it. Now to answer your question, the strongest tanks are as follows Apoc for strongest Armour Tank. Scorp for strongest Shield tank. And thats it. I am not talking about DPS or whatever, those two are the strongest tanking ships in this game. And no, the original poster did not mention carrier or dreads :) --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Jin Entres	Posted - 2006.05.12 12:12:00 - [17] Originally by: Lord WarATron The Original Posters question is simple Which battleship can be fitted so to be the strongest tank? Firstly, let us forget about all this uber officer gear. Virtualy nobody PvP's in it. Now to answer your question, the strongest tanks are as follows Apoc for strongest Armour Tank. Scorp for strongest Shield tank. And thats it. I am not talking about DPS or whatever, those two are the strongest tanking ships in this game. ECM effectively reduces damage received, hence could be considered part of tanking efficiency. As such, an ECM domi would surpass an apoc in armor tanking league (while maintaining the ability to function, ie. deal damage, scramble and web). ---
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.05.12 12:19:00 - [18] BS: raven(and its faction clones) (just to mention, arma tanks better than apoc). Technically scorp should tank best, but it has ****ty dps, also as we can see on kayo's rattlesnake, you don't need more than 6 medslots. Hac: eagle with crystal set(also shield shield tanked ishtar could be mean, but we know why ishtar is good:P) inty: claw/crow - crusader uses too much cap for guns. AF: retri or gistii harpy command ships: the "gang" ones are pretty sick, but i put my $$ on claymore. Die, die, die.
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.05.12 12:26:00 - [19] Originally by: LUKEC (just to mention, arma tanks better than apoc). Pardon ? Please explain Spirits in the night! Allll Niiight!!
Lord WarATron	Posted - 2006.05.12 12:44:00 - [20] Arma better tank than apoc? Geesh. Geddon has 1 extra low slot, but apoc has far higher cap. Apoc can sustain 4 hardners with 2 t2 reps with the right skills. I cannot see how geddon could As for Raven vs Scorp, Scorp is a better Shield tanker, though the raven DPS is the reason why people prefer ravens. Answering that guy who talked about ECM. ECM does not effect the tanking ability. It only effects the ability for the ship to acheive lock. If a tank is baised upon NOS, then a vampapoc could sustain 4 t2 reps, 3 hardners and all ecm in mids easaly. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Epsilon 1	Posted - 2006.05.12 12:47:00 - [21] Originally by: LWMaverick Originally by: LUKEC (just to mention, arma tanks better than apoc). Pardon ? Please explain He just likes tanking while having 25% less cap Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
Frools	Posted - 2006.05.12 12:50:00 - [22] it does tank better, just doesnt tank as long
Epsilon 1	Posted - 2006.05.12 12:56:00 - [23] Originally by: Frools it does tank better, just doesnt tank as long It doesn't tank better, lower armour hp, 25% less cap, less pg to fit dual/triple reps AND guns and of cos i'd rather have 4 meds slots Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
Crellion	Posted - 2006.05.12 13:01:00 - [24] Originally by: Jin Entres Originally by: Lord WarATron The Original Posters question is simple Which battleship can be fitted so to be the strongest tank? Firstly, let us forget about all this uber officer gear. Virtualy nobody PvP's in it. Now to answer your question, the strongest tanks are as follows Apoc for strongest Armour Tank. Scorp for strongest Shield tank. And thats it. I am not talking about DPS or whatever, those two are the strongest tanking ships in this game. ECM effectively reduces damage received, hence could be considered part of tanking efficiency. As such, an ECM domi would surpass an apoc in armor tanking league (while maintaining the ability to function, ie. deal damage, scramble and web). So you are voting armour semi-passive tank Scorp for best tanker then Jim?
The Angle	Posted - 2006.05.12 13:06:00 - [25] Originally by: TheKiller8 Well I'd say this is a pretty strong tank. And the Damage-per-Second isn't too shabby either. Holy crap...no wonder you owned me a couple months ago! And you weren't even using this ship. Dude, teach me.
mamolian	Posted - 2006.05.12 13:28:00 - [26] Edited by: mamolian on 12/05/2006 13:33:33 Edited by: mamolian on 12/05/2006 13:29:34 Originally by: Hydrogen Just for the curious some links ;) Zealot 1 Zealot 2 The evergreen: Navy Auguror how the F*** did you get 12k armor with 1 1600mm plate?? edit- hmm photoshop jobs are they? -------------------------------
Callistus	Posted - 2006.05.12 13:35:00 - [27] Originally by: mamolian Edited by: mamolian on 12/05/2006 13:33:33 Edited by: mamolian on 12/05/2006 13:29:34 Originally by: Hydrogen Just for the curious some links ;) Zealot 1 Zealot 2 The evergreen: Navy Auguror how the F*** did you get 12k armor with 1 1600mm plate?? edit- hmm photoshop jobs are they? Full slave implant set I assume. -------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Kinsy	Posted - 2006.05.12 13:41:00 - [28] Slave implant set.
Jin Entres	Posted - 2006.05.12 13:43:00 - [29] Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Jin Entres Originally by: Lord WarATron The Original Posters question is simple Which battleship can be fitted so to be the strongest tank? Firstly, let us forget about all this uber officer gear. Virtualy nobody PvP's in it. Now to answer your question, the strongest tanks are as follows Apoc for strongest Armour Tank. Scorp for strongest Shield tank. And thats it. I am not talking about DPS or whatever, those two are the strongest tanking ships in this game. ECM effectively reduces damage received, hence could be considered part of tanking efficiency. As such, an ECM domi would surpass an apoc in armor tanking league (while maintaining the ability to function, ie. deal damage, scramble and web). So you are voting armour semi-passive tank Scorp for best tanker then Jim? My name is not Jim. And no, I see no mind in looking at one aspect of a ship independently. An ECM Scorp with armor tank might survive the longest, but it hardly does any damage. Domi on the other hand can effectively yield it's drones to their full potential while having a strong nos-fueled armor tank and ECM. You could also argue that offense is the best defense; afterall it's aimed at disabling the source of incoming damage. Taking something out of context is pointless. Surely if you're looking just for the biggest tank, you can tank both shield and armor. Will signature radius be factored in? What damage are we looking to tank - big guns, small guns, torpedoes...? What I think is more important are the relative strengths of (battleships' in this case) tanks in their common applications and with regular, useful fittings and the ships' interracial balance. ---
Avaleric	Posted - 2006.05.12 13:51:00 - [30] ...u can make a Navy Issue Apocalypse pretty tough... - Ignorance is bliss...

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