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Gentzen
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Posted - 2006.05.13 09:41:00 -
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http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=246
There is Tier 3 BS data. (I think this is just experimental data. These might be quite unrelated to actual T3BSs.)
It seems that all ships are specializing in turret.
-Tier3 Amarr
cpu/power:510/22000
hi/med/low:8/4/8
turret/luncher:8/1
max velocity:110
shield:5600, 10/40/60/80, 2000s
armor:6800, 40/80/75/65
drone capa:100
capacitor:5000en, 1000s
sig radius:470
shipETspeedBonusAB2 (Energy Turret Speed Bonus)
shipBonusArmorResistAB ( armor resist bonus? )
-Tier3 Caldari
cpu/power:650/16250
hi/med/low:8/7/5
turret/luncher:7/4
max velocity:110
shield:6800, 10/40/60/80, 2000s
armor:5600, 40/90/75/55
drone capa:50
capacitor:4800en, 1000s
sig radius:500
shipBonusHybridOptimalCB (Hybrid Optimal Range Bonus)
shipBonusHybridDamageCB2 (Hybrid Damage Bonus)
-Tier3 Gallente
cpu/power:625/16500
hi/med/low:8/6/6
turret/luncher:8/1
max velocity:130
shield:6000, 1/40/60/80, 2000s
armor:6400, 40/90/66/65
drone capa:75
capacitor:5760en, 1200s
sig radius:485
shipHTDmgBonusGB (Hybrid Damage bonus)
shipMWDCapBonusGB2 ( MWD Capacity bonus ?)
-Tier3 Minmatar
cpu/power:625/17500
hi/med/low:8/5/7
turret/luncher:8/3
max velocity:115
shield:6400 10/40/60/80, 1500ms
armor:6000 30/90/75/65
drone capa:100
capacitor:1000s
sig radius:460
shipPTspeedBonusMB2 (Projectile firing speed bonus)
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.13 09:42:00 -
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fyi, you're more than 6 months too late 
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Gentzen
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Posted - 2006.05.13 09:47:00 -
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ugu. thanks. ^^;
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DeathWarrior
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:01:00 -
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minimatar just gets 1 bonus?
 Originally by: Tuxford
I once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: DeathWarrior
minimatar just gets 1 bonus?
it's listed as -10%, so with bs 5 you would double your dps (and unfortunatly, ammo use). that's assuming of course that it really is a rof bonus
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DeathWarrior
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:06:00 -
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mmm overpowered... 
/me hides 
Originally by: Tuxford
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Abyss Jack
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: Abyss Jack on 13/05/2006 10:11:50
they're faction ships for every1 
heya... GN mega, RF pest for 300mio 
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GlimmerMan
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:26:00 -
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They won't have those stats when released, if they did the faction ship market would crash overnight. Plus a Dev has previously posted and said they won't be superior to faction BS. So unless he lied they're going to be pre-nerfed on release or faction BS are going to get a huge boost to keep them better.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:31:00 -
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No no, this is good, these are newer than the object inventory.
May I ask gentzen, ive never taken a look at the data files, how do you export the stats? Is it just an XML?
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DeathWarrior
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: DeathWarrior on 13/05/2006 10:32:39
make t2 faction ships tbh .. or
tier 2 navy raven, navy megathron, navy apoc, republic tempest!
Originally by: Tuxford
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: DeathWarrior
tier 2 navy raven
ANd that would be a shield-tanking gunship how, exactly? 
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:41:00 -
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Very unbalanced bonuses.
Amarr one needs to lose its rof bonus in favor of 10% laser cap use per level.
Caldari one needs to lose hybrid damage bonus in favor of 5% shield resists per level.
Gallente one needs to lose hybrid damage bonus in favor of blaster damage bonus.
Minmatar one is incomplete, so meh.
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DeathWarrior
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Very unbalanced bonuses.
Amarr one needs to lose its rof bonus in favor of 10% laser cap use per level.
Caldari one needs to lose hybrid damage bonus in favor of 5% shield resists per level.
Gallente one needs to lose hybrid damage bonus in favor of blaster damage bonus.
Minmatar one is incomplete, so meh.
Digi for Dev?
Originally by: Tuxford
I once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments. |
Xoduse
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Gallente one needs to lose hybrid damage bonus in favor of blaster damage bonus.
And since when do ships only get a bonus to one of their race's weapons. A blaster dmg bonus rules out 1/2 of gallente's possible setups. I guess the goal here is to keep the tier 3 from being another gallente sniper?
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Very unbalanced bonuses.
Amarr one needs to lose its rof bonus in favor of 10% laser cap use per level.
Caldari one needs to lose hybrid damage bonus in favor of 5% shield resists per level.
Gallente one needs to lose hybrid damage bonus in favor of blaster damage bonus.
Minmatar one is incomplete, so meh.
why should the galante one get only blaster dmg bonous? while all other ships ingame get the bonous for the long range and short range weapon system?
-------------------Sig-----------------------
Boost the raven, i dont know how since its got great volley damage, massive range, any damage type, overpowered tank BUT BOOOOOOOSTTTT them raveneeeeen |
Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Xoduse
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Gallente one needs to lose hybrid damage bonus in favor of blaster damage bonus.
And since when do ships only get a bonus to one of their race's weapons. A blaster dmg bonus rules out 1/2 of gallente's possible setups. I guess the goal here is to keep the tier 3 from being another gallente sniper?
fyi, the megathron originally had a 5% bonus to blasters
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
fyi, the megathron originally had a 5% bonus to blasters
doesnt the fact that it was removed tell you that it wasnt such a hot idea?
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Boost the raven, i dont know how since its got great volley damage, massive range, any damage type, overpowered tank BUT BOOOOOOOSTTTT them raveneeeeen |
Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Kaeten on 13/05/2006 11:23:24
oh dear  I'm not happy with the 8/6/6 slot layout on the gallente, did you by any chance swap the mim and gallent slots? would make alot more sense if you did.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Gallente one needs to lose hybrid damage bonus in favor of blaster damage bonus.
Bollox.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
oh dear I'm not happy with the 8/6/6 slot layout on the mega, did you by any chance swap the mim and gallent slots? would make alot more sense if you did.
he did
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Kaeten
oh dear I'm not happy with the 8/6/6 slot layout on the mega, did you by any chance swap the mim and gallent slots? would make alot more sense if you did.
he did
thx god lol
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Gallente one needs to lose hybrid damage bonus in favor of blaster damage bonus.
Bollox.
Really? Its a blaster ship, so don't you think maybe a 10% blaster damage bonus is better than a 5% hybrid damage bonus? Think first, then post.
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: keepiru
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Gallente one needs to lose hybrid damage bonus in favor of blaster damage bonus.
Bollox.
Really? Its a blaster ship, so don't you think maybe a 10% blaster damage bonus is better than a 5% hybrid damage bonus? Think first, then post.
the prob is you make the ship a blaster boat and only a blaster boat, while all other ships can do both close and far!
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Boost the raven, i dont know how since its got great volley damage, massive range, any damage type, overpowered tank BUT BOOOOOOOSTTTT them raveneeeeen |
DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:38:00 -
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And the problem with this.. being..?
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Really? Its a blaster ship, so don't you think maybe a 10% blaster damage bonus is better than a 5% hybrid damage bonus? Think first, then post.
Tbh, no. I dont think its better. Oh, it might appease some blaster diehards, yes, but that doesent make it better.
If there's a problem with blaster dps vs. rail dps, then it should be addressed at the gun level, otherwise its your personal feelings of not puttings rails on gallente ships, and that, i'm afraid, shouldnt count for ****.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:52:00 -
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I got no problems with using rails, just prefer to have one ship good at long range, one at short range.. instead of two which are equally inept at everything. Btw, the tier 3 gallente is a blaster ship.
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Emno
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:02:00 -
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If the new caldari bs is going to have a damage bonus it should really have 6 turrets (ignoring t2 long range ammo as that screws balance so badly i hope they change it ;/) it would mean that the caldari tier 3 would do more damage at range then the mega (being able to use better ammo) but not as much damage close range
Also having an all out blaster bs would be nice sacrificing any bonus to rails bonus for a 10% blaster bonus sounds like a nice idea ;o
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bundy bear
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:02:00 -
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If this happens caldari would have a better sniping ship than gallente. So in a fleet caldari would have the better turret BS (new ship) anti support ship (precision raven) and EW (scorp) so why the fek fly gallente. Also currently (hopefully gets fixed soon) but caldari beat galente close range aswell with the torp raven.
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Abyss Jack
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:05:00 -
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MWD bonus is also good for sniper setups. But the mainprobem is tier3 bs's are far overpowerd for the class itself. Move them into a new class with bigger sig and restricts like destroyer... powerfull but only paper tank...
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: bundy bear
If this happens caldari would have a better sniping ship than gallente. So in a fleet caldari would have the better turret BS (new ship) anti support ship (precision raven) and EW (scorp) so why the fek fly gallente. Also currently (hopefully gets fixed soon) but caldari beat galente close range aswell with the torp raven.
because the dominix still owns solo and for small gangs, the megathron will outdamage the caldari railboat, and the tier3 *should* *****everything it comes across (if it's a blasterboat and if ccp doesn't gimp it somehow)
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