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Dave stark
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:17:00 -
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because why not? |
Dave stark
5103
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:18:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
actually, the very fact that you can't ensure success as we've proven several times negates it.
No, because your "proof" rests in an absolute which is impossible, while my suggestions are based in reality. Your demanding absolutes cripples your argument, because there are no absolutes, and since there are no absolutes, addressing them as a method of proof pertaining to reality is a fallacious demand because it's impossible. By your logic, you should not be pressing the keys on your keyboard, or using your computer because it may get angry and attack you, zapping you with electricity and smashing you over your head with the keyboard and mouse. You demand absolute proof? Absolutely prove that your computer will not do that. You can't absolutely prove it, but you can, within the realm of reality, accept that the likely hood of it happening is so negligible, that you do not consider it as a determining factor regarding your choice to use it. no, my proof is basic mathematics. which you seem to have an issue grasping. also your absurd and ******** hypothetical doesn't follow my logic at all. O no, my hypothetical fits quite well. You've constantly demanded an absolute 0% risk suggestion, which is impossible, just like you can't prove that your computer attacking you is 0%. It may be highly unlikely, yes. So unlikely that you shouldn't waste time considering that it's a real possibility, definitely. Yet you will hypocritically demand an absolute from someone else.
no, i haven't demanded an absolute 0% risk.
i've spent 3 or so pages proving that there isn't such a thing, because you claimed there was. the very fact it's impossible was the point, the point being; you were wrong. |
Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:21:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
actually, the very fact that you can't ensure success as we've proven several times negates it.
No, because your "proof" rests in an absolute which is impossible, while my suggestions are based in reality. Your demanding absolutes cripples your argument, because there are no absolutes, and since there are no absolutes, addressing them as a method of proof pertaining to reality is a fallacious demand because it's impossible. By your logic, you should not be pressing the keys on your keyboard, or using your computer because it may get angry and attack you, zapping you with electricity and smashing you over your head with the keyboard and mouse. You demand absolute proof? Absolutely prove that your computer will not do that. You can't absolutely prove it, but you can, within the realm of reality, accept that the likely hood of it happening is so negligible, that you do not consider it as a determining factor regarding your choice to use it. no, my proof is basic mathematics. which you seem to have an issue grasping. also your absurd and ******** hypothetical doesn't follow my logic at all. O no, my hypothetical fits quite well. You've constantly demanded an absolute 0% risk suggestion, which is impossible, just like you can't prove that your computer attacking you is 0%. It may be highly unlikely, yes. So unlikely that you shouldn't waste time considering that it's a real possibility, definitely. Yet you will hypocritically demand an absolute from someone else. no, i haven't demanded an absolute 0% risk. i've spent 3 or so pages proving that there isn't such a thing, because you claimed there was. the very fact it's impossible was the point, the point being; you were wrong.
So you waste time trying to get proof of an absolute. You just sat here and spent like 3 pages or so worth of posting demanding I provide you with an absolute, which means an absolute is important to you.
I never brought up absolutes, you assigned the attribute of an absolute to my post of your own accord, showing a propensity to demand absolute proof.
You'll see I suggested multiple times that the risk was so negligible, that it wasn't worth considering as a determining factor you should use to influence your decisions. Yet even after my stating that repeatedly, you continued to demand an absolute.
ALSO, you stated that your own definition of "risk" as an absolute.
tippia wrong
post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave stark
5103
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:23:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:So you waste time trying to get proof of an absolute. You just sat here and spent like 3 pages or so worth of posting demanding I provide you with an absolute, which means an absolute is important to you.
I never brought up absolutes, you assigned the attribute of an absolute to my post of your own accord, showing a propensity to demand absolute proof.
You'll see I suggested multiple times that the risk was so negligible, that it wasn't worth considering as a determining factor you should use to influence your decisions. Yet even after my stating that repeatedly, you continued to demand an absolute.
ALSO, you stated that your own definition of "risk" as an absolute.
i didn't demand anything, i just pointed out that the chance of a sucessful gank wasn't 1, and you were wrong. you've just spent 3 pages not accepting that simple fact.
you were wrong, ganking isn't risk free. we've been over this like 6 times now. is french your first language? i speak french but you're having a lot of trouble with english at the moment it would seem. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5417
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:24:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:
So you waste time trying to get proof of an absolute. You just sat here and spent like 3 pages or so worth of posting demanding I provide you with an absolute, which means an absolute is important to you.
Considering you kept reposting a false dichotomy for several pages earlier today? I find this incomparably amusing.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Qmamoto Kansuke
Killing with pink power
1
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:24:00 -
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I can understand killing it if it was carrying say 150m+
But kills like this are just pure griefing.
How long before this kind of gameplay backfires and eve starts bleeding subs?See Darkfall for example bit more hardcore than eve and does it have large playerbase nope.The more hardcore eve becomes less people will play it.What's the point of holding these kinds of events if in the end your alliance is left to play with itself. |
Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes
Margin of Silence
3105
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:28:00 -
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Qmamoto Kansuke wrote:I can understand killing it if it was carrying say 150m+ But kills like this are just pure griefing. How long before this kind of gameplay backfires and eve starts bleeding subs?See Darkfall for example bit more hardcore than eve and does it have large playerbase nope.The more hardcore eve becomes less people will play it.What's the point of holding these kinds of events if in the end your alliance is left to play with itself.
can we get more of these posts and less of divine intervention's boring garbage tia |
Dave Stark
5104
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:29:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:
That quote doesn't illustrate your point, are you honestly unable to read english? |
Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:30:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Yes you did.
And ganking can be risk-free (if your desire isn't profit but instead the gank itself) if you account for all of the REALISTIC possibilities that could prevent your gank from being successful. If you plan accordingly, you can eliminate risk. no, i didn't. no, it can't. we've just spent like 3 pages going over that. ganking is not risk free, you've even admitted it in several posts.
Right here is when you begin using an absolute as an attempt to prove me wrong:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4517025#post4517025
so
yes you did.
tippia wrong
post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
849
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:31:00 -
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HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
I find it disturbing that freighter pilots just...
HELL, THEY JUST KEEP COMING!
They even undock from Jita 4-4!
And who gets the blame?
Btw, disco thrashers are awesome,
but I can't fit a combat probe launcher onto it ...
Now I'm -9,
40+ KillRights on my ass
and all I need is a Probe,
two small smartbombs and said launcher.
I love this game! :D
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:33:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: That quote doesn't illustrate your point, are you honestly unable to read english?
No, but I am honestly beginning to question your taking responsibility of your own actions.
tippia wrong
post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5104
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:33:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Yes you did.
And ganking can be risk-free (if your desire isn't profit but instead the gank itself) if you account for all of the REALISTIC possibilities that could prevent your gank from being successful. If you plan accordingly, you can eliminate risk. no, i didn't. no, it can't. we've just spent like 3 pages going over that. ganking is not risk free, you've even admitted it in several posts. Right here is when you begin using an absolute as an attempt to prove me wrong: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4517025#post4517025so yes you did.
no, that isn't an absolute. seriously, est-ce que parlez-vous anglais? |
Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:42:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:
no, that isn't an absolute. seriously, est-ce que parlez-vous anglais?
Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
But I'm not really going to beat myself up over what you think because you've demonstrated a propensity to demand absolute proof and then disconnect from your action of having demanded absolute proof.
I've even given you proof of your . . . . situation. and yet you still refuse to acknowledge it as something you've done, so after having provided proof with your continued denial in the face of the evidence, it's apparent there's no real point in talking with you.
So have fun! Try not to spend too much time planning an adequate defense against the possibility of your computer attacking you. Since you can't prove there's a 0% chance of it happening, needing a 0% chance of risk to be willing to make a decision.
tippia wrong
post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5418
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:45:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:
Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
LOL. Do you seriously not see the irony of you saying that?
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:48:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
LOL. Do you seriously not see the irony of you saying that?
Well considering that you're the one asking me, considering my opinion of you,
#dontcarewhatyouthink
tippia wrong
post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5418
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:50:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
LOL. Do you seriously not see the irony of you saying that? Well considering that you're the one asking me, considering my opinion of you, #dontcarewhatyouthink
Doublethink, got it.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:50:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
LOL. Do you seriously not see the irony of you saying that? Well considering that you're the one asking me, considering my opinion of you, #dontcarewhatyouthink Doublethink, got it.
Prove it.
tippia wrong
post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5418
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:55:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:
Prove it.
I already have. Thanks for playing though, you get a copy of the home version and some lovely coupons.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:57:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Prove it.
I already have. Thanks for playing though, you get a copy of the home version and some lovely coupons.
I disagree
tippia wrong
post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5418
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:59:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Prove it.
I already have. Thanks for playing though, you get a copy of the home version and some lovely coupons. I disagree
Of course you would. Doublethink will do that to a person.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:07:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Prove it.
I already have. Thanks for playing though, you get a copy of the home version and some lovely coupons. I disagree Of course you would. Doublethink will do that to a person.
Provide the proof of your claim that I'm doublethinking, if not I'll consider your statement a troll. Stating you've provided it already is not providing the proof, considering you've disrespected me multiple times, this could be just another manifestation of your disrespecting me. Which considering the person you've proven yourself to be, your attempts to do so should not be considered as a valid reason to seriously consider the statements that you say to me.
tippia wrong
post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5419
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:09:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:
Provide the proof of your claim that I'm doublethinking.
Ok, look at your portrait, then click on your name.
Now go to "view posts".
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
850
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:11:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
LOL. Do you seriously not see the irony of you saying that?
I tried intoducing Irony to him,
but he probably rejected her.
If you guys simply stopped quoting him,
or even talking to him,
we'd probably have half the amount of pages in some threads
and actual discussions and content.
Instead, you people keep argueing with an egofreak.
Hi there, Divine! I'm not reading your crap!
It's completely predictable! :D
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5419
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:24:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:
And here from kaarous, we have an example of "Zerothink".
Don't worry about taking a picture, he does it all the time.
So you're suggesting that I don't exist? I have been accused of having some pretty weird supernatural powers on this forum lately, but this is a new one.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:25:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
And here from kaarous, we have an example of "Zerothink".
Don't worry about taking a picture, he does it all the time.
So you're suggesting that I don't exist? I have been accused of having some pretty weird supernatural powers on this forum lately, but this is a new one.
See folks, told you he does it all the time.
Another example of Zerothink from kaarous.
tippia wrong
post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Hlokk Skoggangur
Shoot Them Later Serious Callers Only
12
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:27:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Provide the proof of your claim that I'm doublethinking.
Ok, look at your portrait, then click on your name. Now go to "view posts". Wow this is awesome. Thanks for showing me all of these different posts that prove I'm better than you.
Seriously? |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
736
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:29:00 -
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Came to thread expecting morality discussion and a laughing fit
BUT OH GHAD MAKE IT STAHHP JUST STAHHP IT
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
855
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:31:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Came to thread expecting morality discussion and a laughing fit
BUT OH GHAD MAKE IT STAHHP JUST STAHHP IT
This guy keeps ruining every thread,
because his sick ego makes others respond to it,
slowly turning them into him.
Seriously, wtf is wrong with people?
He keeps ruining so many threads and STILL people keep talking to him!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
736
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:51:00 -
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Please refrain from personal attacks on the ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
oh god i can't do it
go kill a freighter and release that frustration.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4935
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:59:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Came to thread expecting morality discussion and a laughing fit
BUT OH GHAD MAKE IT STAHHP JUST STAHHP IT This guy keeps ruining every thread, because his sick ego makes others respond to it, slowly turning them into him. Seriously, wtf is wrong with people? He keeps ruining so many threads and STILL people keep talking to him!
Some snowflakes are more precious than others.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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