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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
751
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:14:00 -
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http://themittani.com/news/burn-jita-3-date-announced
The date for Burn Jita 2014 has been announced: Downtime on Friday April 25th to downtime on Monday April 28th
And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1301
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:17:00 -
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The ALODs will hopefully be epic. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4805
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:17:00 -
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Yawns.
Go shill that crappy blog in My Eve.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
751
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:18:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Yawns.
Go shill that crappy blog in My Eve.
whats my eve
And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4805
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:19:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Yawns.
Go shill that crappy blog in My Eve.
whats my eve
--> My EVE
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1692
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:31:00 -
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... like anyone has actually waited for an actual "date"... 
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Jur Tissant
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:38:00 -
[7] - Quote
So it's starting Thursday after downtime then? |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
774
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:41:00 -
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Despite this, many will be completely oblivious to it, and be ganked as a result.
It pays to be an actual part of this community. |

Winchester Steele
1055
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:56:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Yawns.
Go shill that crappy blog in My Eve.
whats my eve
whats a blog ... |

BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
251
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:01:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Yawns.
Go shill that crappy blog in My Eve.
whats my eve whats a blog
Ask Ripard Teg
Insert Signature Here..... |
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
435
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:03:00 -
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BuckStrider wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Yawns.
Go shill that crappy blog in My Eve.
whats my eve whats a blog Ask Ripard Teg
Just don't vote for him.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5198
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:09:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:
Just don't vote for him.
My constellations of fortune have been thoroughly thanked for the fact that he is not running again.
The current crop of candidates actually has very few "carebears" in them, and I honestly don't count Steve Ronuken as a carebear, because he doesn't have the ****ty attitude required to qualify as a carebear. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
751
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:14:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:... like anyone has actually waited for an actual "date"... 
Jur Tissant wrote:So it's starting Thursday after downtime then?
Him apparently lol And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2733
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:17:00 -
[14] - Quote
So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
But hey, high sec industry is being made extinct, and I am sure that 10 people will sign up to be a null sec serf for every high sec casual player quits. So go ahead clowns, act like jerks this weekend. Knock yourself out.
Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
382
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:20:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
But hey, high sec industry is being made extinct, and I am sure that 10 people will sign up to be a null sec serf for every high sec casual player quits. So go ahead clowns, act like jerks this weekend. Knock yourself out.
I can almost hear a goon every 15 minutes asking on mumble if anyone saw dinsdale's post on the forums, cringing while their teeth crunch the remnants of cheetos and doritos past.
Because like, he's so mad and stuff Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Serene Repose
1296
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:37:00 -
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"...It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury Signifying nothing."
(Stolen from Willie the Shake. You know, neither a borrower nor lender be.) I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Vyl Vit
632
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:39:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:"...It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury Signifying nothing."
(Stolen from Willie the Shake. You know, neither a borrower nor lender be.) Oh. I get it. I thought Burn Jita was a toon! Burn Jita finally gets a date! I thought I'd find a story of a guy who had a wart removed from his nose. Instead, I find a memo from a bunch of guys who haven't.
Anyone with any sense has already left town. |

Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
145
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:40:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
But hey, high sec industry is being made extinct, and I am sure that 10 people will sign up to be a null sec serf for every high sec casual player quits. So go ahead clowns, act like jerks this weekend. Knock yourself out.
How is high sec industry being made extinct? Lets see moar of your tears PLZ.....
Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
751
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Posted - 2014.04.22 04:08:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again
Roflmao...
yeah pvp makes you a sociopath. Man you play EVE. Id expect you to have thicker skin.
If you dont like pvp go play STO And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
148
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Posted - 2014.04.22 04:14:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again
Roflmao... yeah pvp makes you a sociopath. Man you play EVE. Id expect you to have thicker skin. If you dont like pvp go play STO
Better be careful there... You may incur the wrath of Ripard-Teg for your non caring post :P
Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
594
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Posted - 2014.04.22 04:17:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
But hey, high sec industry is being made extinct, and I am sure that 10 people will sign up to be a null sec serf for every high sec casual player quits. So go ahead clowns, act like jerks this weekend. Knock yourself out.
Relevant Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |

Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
732
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Posted - 2014.04.22 05:33:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. ...
I lurk channels for and against ganking and find both sides have their ridiculous dingalings. The overly toxic and the overly righteous are similar in that: they realise themselves by despising an other, they bring that to le spaecships. Coolest thing about EvE is whatever the other guy does, you can call it content and deal with it. Or you could...
waiiiiit for it......
get out of highsec.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Magnus Cortex
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2014.04.22 06:29:00 -
[23] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
But hey, high sec industry is being made extinct, and I am sure that 10 people will sign up to be a null sec serf for every high sec casual player quits. So go ahead clowns, act like jerks this weekend. Knock yourself out.
Never change Dinsdale you are beautiful. I shall name my first catalyst after you  |

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1428
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Posted - 2014.04.22 06:40:00 -
[24] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
But hey, high sec industry is being made extinct, and I am sure that 10 people will sign up to be a null sec serf for every high sec casual player quits. So go ahead clowns, act like jerks this weekend. Knock yourself out.
I can almost hear a goon every 15 minutes asking on mumble if anyone saw dinsdale's post on the forums, cringing while their teeth crunch the remnants of cheetos and doritos past. Because like, he's so mad and stuff
Damn I'm liking a DE post. What's wrong with the world?
MEDIiIIIIIC! |

Marsha Mallow
327
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Posted - 2014.04.22 06:48:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Burn Jita haz a date!! If you're going to post stuff with titles like this you can just drag yourself back to your sobbing threads and stay there
Magnus Cortex wrote:Never change Dinsdale you are beautiful. I shall name my first catalyst after you  Yeah, no. You have DBRB, gwan shuffle off tramp. - |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
851
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Posted - 2014.04.22 06:57:00 -
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Time to dust off my seboed Griffin and be a pro PvPer.... Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Mangala Solaris for CSM 9
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2255
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:00:00 -
[27] - Quote
Burn Jita has the good side effect of making mining seem interesting and fun by comparison.
Perhaps the goons will blow up their alt freighters etc so that they can claim that Burn Jita is of any interest to anyone but them and their egos.
This is not a signature. |

Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
152
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:01:00 -
[28] - Quote
Who else is bringing noob ships to ***** on kill mails? :D Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
633
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:07:00 -
[29] - Quote
How do tzey expect me to make billions, when it starts during worktime?
:( |

Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1274
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:08:00 -
[30] - Quote
it's always Jita ... never Hek or Dodixie or somewhere else that's significant.
No imagination .. No 'suddenly spaceships' in unexpected systems, Jita is so 2008.
Be emergent Be unorthodox Be unpredictable
Don't be a bunch of tired, repetitive has-beens. |
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Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
113
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:08:00 -
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"PeW pEw PEW !
Awwwww my badger :(((( you goon pet. I hate you, Mittens RMT. Didnt want that ship anyway. I will petition you."
I CANT WAIT <3
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10488
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:12:00 -
[32] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
none of value, hopefully Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1643
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:12:00 -
[33] - Quote
Luwc wrote:"PeW pEw PEW !
Awwwww my badger :(((( you goon pet. I hate you, Mittens RMT. Didnt want that ship anyway. I will petition you."
I CANT WAIT <3
+1 for Bingo
Yay!!!!!!!
   Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
633
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:15:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:it's always Jita ... never Hek or Dodixie or somewhere else that's significant.
No imagination .. No 'suddenly spaceships' in unexpected systems, Jita is so 2008.
Be emergent Be unorthodox Be unpredictable
Don't be a bunch of tired, repetitive has-beens. In Hek of nowadays, nobody would notice. In Dodixie, people would probably fight back.
Also, what emergent, unorthodox content have you ever presented? |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2662
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:19:00 -
[35] - Quote
Really, really looking forward to putting the Goons to work making me ISK.
If they have fun doing it, even better. Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10488
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:20:00 -
[36] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Really, really looking forward to putting the Goons to work making me ISK.
If they have fun doing it, even better.
the goons that care about making isk will be making a lot more than you, so yeah Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
613
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:21:00 -
[37] - Quote
Someone has had the clever idea of selling "Jita Permits" in the style of New Order. No idea if they are real or a scam.
[06:40:44] ###### > Buy your BurnJita safety passes here. Only buy from official Goonwaffe members, we are the only ones with valid codes that our SR API will recognize. Convo for details. Stay safe this Burn Jita! Limited number available. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10488
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:22:00 -
[38] - Quote
Hasikan Miallok wrote:Someone has had the clever idea of selling "Jita Permits" in the style of New Order. No idea if they are real or a scam.
[06:40:44] ###### > Buy your BurnJita safety passes here. Only buy from official Goonwaffe members, we are the only ones with valid codes that our SR API will recognize. Convo for details. Stay safe this Burn Jita! Limited number available.
they're real, get em while they're hot Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
634
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:44:00 -
[39] - Quote
Andski wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Someone has had the clever idea of selling "Jita Permits" in the style of New Order. No idea if they are real or a scam.
[06:40:44] ###### > Buy your BurnJita safety passes here. Only buy from official Goonwaffe members, we are the only ones with valid codes that our SR API will recognize. Convo for details. Stay safe this Burn Jita! Limited number available. they're real, get em while they're hot lol "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:50:00 -
[40] - Quote
**** I need to get 5.0
How can I increase security status fast without buying tags?
Already training social to 4 so I get fast talk.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/24smp7ax4f5bxsi/Screenshot_2014-04-22-08-48-32.png |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
15193
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:52:00 -
[41] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:http://themittani.com/news/burn-jita-3-date-announced
The date for Burn Jita 2014 has been announced: Downtime on Friday April 25th to downtime on Monday April 28th
Awww mittens waited till I'm back from me hols.
So considerate Here is my CSM9 endorsement list - vote for diversity of expertise : Ali Aras-á Mangala Solaris-á Mike Azariah-á Steve Ronuken James Arget-á Xander Phoena-á Sugar Kyle-á corbexx-á mynnna-á progodlegend-á Psychotic Monk-á Jayne Fillion
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Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
3057
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:53:00 -
[42] - Quote
good luck, but i'm extremely disappointed burn jita 3 doesn't have a subtitle |

Mythrandier
Corporate Scum Cult of War
361
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:56:00 -
[43] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
But hey, high sec industry is being made extinct, and I am sure that 10 people will sign up to be a null sec serf for every high sec casual player quits. So go ahead clowns, act like jerks this weekend. Knock yourself out.
In sciences name thatGÇÖs beautiful. So much pure, unadulterated bitter in one post. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |

Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
74
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Posted - 2014.04.22 08:00:00 -
[44] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:good luck, but i'm extremely disappointed burn jita 3 doesn't have a subtitle
"The Burnination" just didn't sound right. |

Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
153
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Posted - 2014.04.22 08:57:00 -
[45] - Quote
Andski wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
none of value, hopefully and those that are lost will be replaced ten-fold by players who respect the spirit of the game: a fantastic proposition, really, lose entitled $15/month princesses and gain many more real players
There isn't much I agree with goons on, but even a broken clock is right twice a day :D
I mean how else are we to weed out the weak 
Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |

Dave Stark
4939
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Posted - 2014.04.22 09:38:00 -
[46] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:good luck, but i'm extremely disappointed burn jita 3 doesn't have a subtitle
"burn jita 3: here we go again" |

Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1870
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Posted - 2014.04.22 09:50:00 -
[47] - Quote
Time to fit numerous bait industrial ships! New player experience, more highsec PvE missions, casual play, balance, counters to AFK cloaking, expanding the NEX store, and Power Projection.
Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9! |

KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1653
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Posted - 2014.04.22 10:05:00 -
[48] - Quote
I know one thing. GD is gonna be brimming with tears, ladies and gents.
Prepare your receptacles.
 Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11250
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Posted - 2014.04.22 10:16:00 -
[49] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Perhaps the goons will blow up their alt freighters
This has been known to happen. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11250
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Posted - 2014.04.22 10:18:00 -
[50] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:good luck, but i'm extremely disappointed burn jita 3 doesn't have a subtitle
We have one or two things Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3251
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Posted - 2014.04.22 10:54:00 -
[51] - Quote
Asia Leigh wrote:Andski wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
none of value, hopefully and those that are lost will be replaced ten-fold by players who respect the spirit of the game: a fantastic proposition, really, lose entitled $15/month princesses and gain many more real players There isn't much I agree with goons on, but even a broken clock is right twice a day :D I mean how else are we to weed out the weak  I ripped the hands out of my clock, so now it's never right. HAR HAR, take that clock.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
121
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Posted - 2014.04.22 12:21:00 -
[52] - Quote
and interesting will be to see if CCP decided to tweek FW "standings" etc temp to sic the FW players on burn jita gankers? :)
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1773
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Posted - 2014.04.22 12:28:00 -
[53] - Quote
Meh, its been years since Ive been anywhere near Jita anyway. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3251
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Posted - 2014.04.22 12:46:00 -
[54] - Quote
Blastcaps Madullier wrote:and interesting will be to see if CCP decided to tweek FW "standings" etc temp to sic the FW players on burn jita gankers? :) I'm fairly sure they won't change mechanics to allow that, and even if they did, who would be a valid target? Could they just kill anyone in Jita or what? It's not like the whole of Burn Jita will be done in coalition alts.
If they did change the games mechanics to protect the poor little highsec carebears though, that would be an official sign that the CFC won EVE.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2480
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Posted - 2014.04.22 12:50:00 -
[55] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
Are you kidding? It's a great time to hop into a sensor-boosted Slasher, grab a bunch of flashy red Goon pods and add their burned corpses to your collection.
If you really want to protest, join one of the counter-terrorism fleets that will be operating in the area. Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2949
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:19:00 -
[56] - Quote
Proof that my sovereignty system needs to be implemented so that the null-sec empires can grief each other instead of having to go to high-sec to get their grieving fix. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Xaerael Endiel
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:34:00 -
[57] - Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bOy3RNyWME |

Claud Tiberius
32
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:50:00 -
[58] - Quote
Ima get mah cheap ass Badger.
Tank it real goood.
Watch goons attack it and hear them say - "oh ****" as concord kicks their ass. |

Miichael Epic
The Neutral Zone
12
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:38:00 -
[59] - Quote
Most of the people that play this game are idiots....complete and total sociopaths as Dinsdale put it. These people likely have to be upstanding citizens in real life and go to work and do a good job but as soon as get get home, they get to be who they really are inside.
People who have no power in their lives, will try to exert power over others in a video game. None of them are kings in real life, so wearing the king douche hat in a video game will have to suffice for them. Its the only way they can manage their meek and cowardly existence.
Terms such as "HTFU" and "Carebear" or the most popular "Butthurt" perhaps weren't coined by, but certainly enjoyed by the meek and cowardly population of EVE/Dust in order to make themselves feel better about things they know are doing wrong. They must assume a fake sense of bravado and puff out their internet chests and tell you to HARDEN THE F!_!CK UP if you don't like it.
You mine in hisec? You're a carebear if you do this! You don't spend every waking hour of the day doing pVp? You're a carebear if you do that! I blew up your ship that took you 90 days and tons of isk to build? Here buddy, fill out a butthurt report!
And yet the players that are "butthurt" and "carebears" and need to "HTFU" aren't bothering anyone, they're just doing their thing in groups or solo and like to be left alone. These people are the superior EVE players and the true kings of this game.
You'll never see a miner rolling a Procurer who is trying to make your game experience crappy. You'll never see someone in a hauler open fire on you for no reason except their e-peen's are extra shrimpy today. You'll never see someone in a Noctis try to disrupt your game play.
Most of the industrial players are rather intelligent and very easy to get along with. They have interesting things to say, make epic conversation and are laid back as the day is long.
The sociopaths and heretics however, have nothing in their lives to be proud of and therefore must exert imaginary power in a video game by disrupting the ebb and flow of everyone else...
Hence...."Burn Jita" event. A grandiose event for the weak to show how strong they can be, hands full of butt hurt reports and evenings spent lying in bed at bedtime feeling their chests swell up with pride as they showed TRUE POWER.
Until the alarm clock goes off, that is. Then its time to do what the boss says and return to the reality of their meek, meager and cowardly existence. |

Xaerael Endiel
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:41:00 -
[60] - Quote
Claud Tiberius wrote:Ima get mah cheap ass Badger.
Tank it real goood.
Watch goons attack it and hear them say - "oh ****" as concord kicks their ass.
... wat? Ahahahaha. Best joke on the Eve o forum EVER. |
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Jaun Pacht-Feng
University of Caille Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
Has it really been 3 years since Mittens publicly endorsed harassment and endorsed suicide of another player? Has it REALLY been 3 years ago that Mittens got all butthurt because a "I'm sorry" didn't exactly cut it? Has it been 3 years since he cried delicious tears and seeked revenge against the community who disliked his actions and seen through the halfassed bullshit apology?
Oh, it has?
Cool story bro! -á(\_/) (O.o) (> -á<) |

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
437
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:49:00 -
[62] - Quote
Prepare to launch the shuttle pi+¦ata!
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4790
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:12:00 -
[63] - Quote
How quaint, neckbeards trying to be relevant.
The worst thing they did last time was cause TiDi spikes in New Caldari.
Why this time of year though? Are the draining memories of Spring breaks past, before the failed marriage and the divorce, before having to move back in with mother, spurring them on to such action that they must gleefully gank others players in an MMO, like a drowning man clawing at the side of a boat (that he forgot to lower the ladder from before diving in)?
And while it's correct that PVP does not a sociopath make, there is much evidence that they are drawn to PVP "for this reason".
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
757
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:14:00 -
[64] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Blastcaps Madullier wrote:and interesting will be to see if CCP decided to tweek FW "standings" etc temp to sic the FW players on burn jita gankers? :) I'm fairly sure they won't change mechanics to allow that, and even if they did, who would be a valid target? Could they just kill anyone in Jita or what? It's not like the whole of Burn Jita will be done in coalition alts. If they did change the games mechanics to protect the poor little highsec carebears though, that would be an official sign that the CFC won EVE.
Make jita null sec for a weekend? And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
673
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:15:00 -
[65] - Quote
Fastest way is buying tags.
Or not giving a damn about it. Bouncing around on gid in 1.0 or 0.9 as -10 is pretty awesome. Challenging. Demanding. Warpwarpwarpwarpwarpwarpwarpwarp.
The only real issue is the amount of players trying to blap you before you can alpha your targeg. "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5029
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:43:00 -
[66] - Quote
Miichael Epic wrote:Most of the industrial players are rather intelligent and very easy to get along with. They have interesting things to say, make epic conversation and are laid back as the day is long.
I have thousands of hours of video & chatlogs that prove this wrong. What have you got? This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5029
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:45:00 -
[67] - Quote
Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:Has it really been 3 years since Mittens publicly endorsed harassment and endorsed suicide of another player? Has it REALLY been 3 years ago that Mittens got all butthurt because a "I'm sorry" didn't exactly cut it? Has it been 3 years since he cried delicious tears and seeked revenge against the community who disliked his actions and seen through the halfassed bullshit apology?
Oh, it has?
Cool story bro!
2 years. I see basic counting is not your strength.
This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
757
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:48:00 -
[68] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:Has it really been 3 years since Mittens publicly endorsed harassment and endorsed suicide of another player? Has it REALLY been 3 years ago that Mittens got all butthurt because a "I'm sorry" didn't exactly cut it? Has it been 3 years since he cried delicious tears and seeked revenge against the community who disliked his actions and seen through the halfassed bullshit apology?
Oh, it has?
Cool story bro! 2 years. I see basic counting is not your strength.
Me neither but yeah, industrialist And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Dave Stark
4960
|
Posted - 2014.04.22 16:09:00 -
[69] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Miichael Epic wrote:Most of the industrial players are rather intelligent and very easy to get along with. They have interesting things to say, make epic conversation and are laid back as the day is long. I have thousands of hours of video & chatlogs that prove this wrong. What have you got?
i don't know, i find the spewing of profanity immensely interesting. on some level it shows an inability to deal with loss, differentiate between games and reality, and a myriad of other fascinating mental conditions.
can't quite argue for the easy to get along with part, but they're hardly boring! |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1306
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:11:00 -
[70] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
But hey, high sec industry is being made extinct, and I am sure that 10 people will sign up to be a null sec serf for every high sec casual player quits. So go ahead clowns, act like jerks this weekend. Knock yourself out.
please link to your peer reviewed proof that Burn Jita events kills subs. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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Dave Stark
4962
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:19:00 -
[71] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
But hey, high sec industry is being made extinct, and I am sure that 10 people will sign up to be a null sec serf for every high sec casual player quits. So go ahead clowns, act like jerks this weekend. Knock yourself out.
please link to your peer reviewed proof that Burn Jita events kills subs.
as long as his account is one of them, i'd be fine with a dip in subs. |

Axe Coldon
Coldon Enterprises Axion Bionics
16
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:21:00 -
[72] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Are you kidding? It's a great time to hop into a sensor-boosted Slasher, grab a bunch of flashy red Goon pods and add their burned corpses to your collection.
If you really want to protest, join one of the counter-terrorism fleets that will be operating in the area.
I know a guy that does exactly that. He hangs around in a boosted dessie and kills PODS of evil gankers. What's really fun is when he pisses off the gankers..they war dec him and he gets in a different alt and starts all over. Basically he must get ganker tears..if they are pissed off enough to war dec him over and over and never get a kill off him.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3286
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:22:00 -
[73] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How quaint, neckbeards trying to be relevant.
The worst thing they did last time was cause TiDi spikes in New Caldari.
Why this time of year though? Are the draining memories of Spring breaks past, before the failed marriage and the divorce, before having to move back in with mother, spurring them on to such action that they must gleefully gank others players in an MMO, like a drowning man clawing at the side of a boat (that he forgot to lower the ladder from before diving from it)?
And while it's correct that PVP does not a sociopath make, there is much evidence that they are drawn to PVP "for this reason".
I'm still waiting for a explanation as to why the griefer community goes through so much trouble to share tears with each other via posted mails and recordings. I know of another community, one that has to hide a lot, that shares their "spoils" at great risk to their freedom and reputation when they do not have to. Such rage. We like to have fun. We find it amsuing when entitled carebears who are too dumb to just not come to Jita when this is announced well in advance cry about their losses. This is no different from if you play CoD and someone keeps standing in one place and you keep shooting them through a wall while they shriek at you down the microphone. It's just a game. It doesn't suddenly mean we all want to go out murdering kittens and such. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Dave Stark
4962
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:23:00 -
[74] - Quote
Axe Coldon wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Are you kidding? It's a great time to hop into a sensor-boosted Slasher, grab a bunch of flashy red Goon pods and add their burned corpses to your collection.
If you really want to protest, join one of the counter-terrorism fleets that will be operating in the area.
I know a guy that does exactly that. He hangs around in a boosted dessie and kills PODS of evil gankers. What's really fun is when he pisses off the gankers..they war dec him and he gets in a different alt and starts all over. Basically he must get ganker tears..if they are pissed off enough to war dec him over and over and never get a kill off him.
instead of cycling characters, he could just join the npc corp. i fear he's not the brightest button in the box. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12636
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:24:00 -
[75] - Quote
FYI, the real action will be on the gates.
Traffic control + Burn Jita = Hilarity.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
679
|
Posted - 2014.04.22 16:24:00 -
[76] - Quote
All I care for is making billions off of it.
I've been waiting for this since my resurrection. "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Dave Stark
4962
|
Posted - 2014.04.22 16:24:00 -
[77] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:FYI, the real action will be on the gates.
Traffic control + Burn Jita = Hilarity.
fish, meet barrel. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
679
|
Posted - 2014.04.22 16:25:00 -
[78] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Axe Coldon wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Are you kidding? It's a great time to hop into a sensor-boosted Slasher, grab a bunch of flashy red Goon pods and add their burned corpses to your collection.
If you really want to protest, join one of the counter-terrorism fleets that will be operating in the area.
I know a guy that does exactly that. He hangs around in a boosted dessie and kills PODS of evil gankers. What's really fun is when he pisses off the gankers..they war dec him and he gets in a different alt and starts all over. Basically he must get ganker tears..if they are pissed off enough to war dec him over and over and never get a kill off him. instead of cycling characters, he could just join the npc corp. i fear he's not the brightest button in the box. Then people couldn't waste 50 Million for a pointless wardec, although he could as well just reopen his corp after dropping out.
Anyhow, it seems you are not the brightestbutton in the box. But you're just a miner anyway. "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Dave Stark
4963
|
Posted - 2014.04.22 16:27:00 -
[79] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Axe Coldon wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Are you kidding? It's a great time to hop into a sensor-boosted Slasher, grab a bunch of flashy red Goon pods and add their burned corpses to your collection.
If you really want to protest, join one of the counter-terrorism fleets that will be operating in the area.
I know a guy that does exactly that. He hangs around in a boosted dessie and kills PODS of evil gankers. What's really fun is when he pisses off the gankers..they war dec him and he gets in a different alt and starts all over. Basically he must get ganker tears..if they are pissed off enough to war dec him over and over and never get a kill off him. instead of cycling characters, he could just join the npc corp. i fear he's not the brightest button in the box. Then people couldn't waste 50 Million for a pointless wardec, although he could as well just reopen his corp after dropping out. Anyhow, it seems you are not the brightestbutton in the box. But you're just a miner anyway. but if you're folding corps that cuts in to your pod ganking time! but i'm just a miner. |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1306
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:33:00 -
[80] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How quaint, neckbeards trying to be relevant.
The worst thing they did last time was cause TiDi spikes in New Caldari.
Why this time of year though? Are the draining memories of Spring breaks past, before the failed marriage and the divorce, before having to move back in with mother, spurring them on to such action that they must gleefully gank others players in an MMO, like a drowning man clawing at the side of a boat (that he forgot to lower the ladder from before diving from it)?
And while it's correct that PVP does not a sociopath make, there is much evidence that they are drawn to PVP "for this reason".
I'm still waiting for a explanation as to why the griefer community goes through so much trouble to share tears with each other via posted mails and recordings. I know of another community, one that has to hide a lot, that shares their "spoils" at great risk to their freedom and reputation when they do not have to.
You clearly don't get it. In eve you are always at risk, high risk, medium risk and low risk, there's no such thing as no risk.
Blowing up someone's ship for absolutely any reason at all is not griefing in a pvp space ship game. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3287
|
Posted - 2014.04.22 16:38:00 -
[81] - Quote
Miichael Epic wrote:Most of the people that play this game are idiots....complete and total sociopaths as Dinsdale put it. These people likely have to be upstanding citizens in real life and go to work and do a good job but as soon as get get home, they get to be who they really are inside. Citation needed.
Miichael Epic wrote:Terms such as "HTFU" and "Carebear" or the most popular "Butthurt" perhaps weren't coined by, but certainly enjoyed by the meek and cowardly population of EVE/Dust in order to make themselves feel better about things they know are doing wrong. They must assume a fake sense of bravado and puff out their internet chests and tell you to HARDEN THE F!_!CK UP if you don't like it. I'd like to point you to a video. Here. This is directly CCP (the developers of EVE if you didn't realise), stating quite clearly HTFU. It's part of the game. This is just the way the game is played. You can cry and you can whine, but at the end of the day it will do no good, and you do in fact need to HTFU. Once you realise that losses can be avoided and those that can't can be taken on the chin and aren't a reason to explode into a fit of rage, you'll be well on your way to winning at EVE.
Miichael Epic wrote:And yet the players that are "butthurt" and "carebears" and need to "HTFU" aren't bothering anyone, they're just doing their thing in groups or solo and like to be left alone. These people are the superior EVE players and the true kings of this game.
You'll never see a miner rolling a Procurer who is trying to make your game experience crappy. You'll never see someone in a hauler open fire on you for no reason except their e-peen's are extra shrimpy today. You'll never see someone in a Noctis try to disrupt your game play. Too bad, it's a PVP game, so PVP happens. Whether you think there's a reason or not is your problem.
Miichael Epic wrote:Hence...."Burn Jita" event. A grandiose event for the weak to show how strong they can be, hands full of butt hurt reports and evenings spent lying in bed at bedtime feeling their chests swell up with pride as they showed TRUE POWER. Erm, no. It's a time to blow off some steam and have a laugh with a bunch of people you share a common interest with. Is it done at the expense of a group of people who's activities we don't particularly like? Sure it is, but again, that's the game, that's how it works. We certainly don't sit around beaming all evening saying "look what we dun did", but if that's the way you need to portray us to get through your day, go right ahead.
Miichael Epic wrote:Until the alarm clock goes off, that is. Then its time to do what the boss says and return to the reality of their meek, meager and cowardly existence. Just FYI, I do what I love for a living. And outside of that I enjoy playing video games, as I suspect do you. It certainly sounds like you don't enjoy EVE though, so perhaps that's something you should look at. It's most certainly not a reason that the rest of us should just stop playing so you can grind isk for all eternity. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4793
|
Posted - 2014.04.22 16:42:00 -
[82] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How quaint, neckbeards trying to be relevant.
The worst thing they did last time was cause TiDi spikes in New Caldari.
Why this time of year though? Are the draining memories of Spring breaks past, before the failed marriage and the divorce, before having to move back in with mother, spurring them on to such action that they must gleefully gank others players in an MMO, like a drowning man clawing at the side of a boat (that he forgot to lower the ladder from before diving from it)?
And while it's correct that PVP does not a sociopath make, there is much evidence that they are drawn to PVP "for this reason".
I'm still waiting for a explanation as to why the griefer community goes through so much trouble to share tears with each other via posted mails and recordings. I know of another community, one that has to hide a lot, that shares their "spoils" at great risk to their freedom and reputation when they do not have to. Such rage. We like to have fun. We find it amsuing when entitled carebears who are too dumb to just not come to Jita when this is announced well in advance cry about their losses. This is no different from if you play CoD and someone keeps standing in one place and you keep shooting them through a wall while they shriek at you down the microphone. It's just a game. It doesn't suddenly mean we all want to go out murdering kittens and such.
How is someone an "entitled carebear" because they don't read the forums and watch what you post or go out of their way to keep track of (give attention to) you or "your kind"?
It still boils down to "I'm so leet".
I recently communicated with someone in nullsec who is quite a hunter and even managed to bag an AFK cloaker - but it was about a freighter run, in highsec.
From my perspective, it's just a declaration. "Those people over there are different from me! (now insert some accusation or label) Therefore they must dieeee!".
Is the pointlessness of this starting to sink in?
Take the Declaration of Independence as an example. Big deal historical document, right? Every year we get a dose of what happened to the men who signed it, how they got arrested, had their stuff taken, and all that.
What we are not told is that they were "of the system". They were the Warren Buffets and Bill Gates of their day. Imagine if all the big wheels of our time got together and said they are forming their own country? Do you think the controlling interests (who have the prisons and the army in their control) would take well to that?
Now, imagine if 50 nobodys declared "independence" on a hill.
How much do you think that would have mattered?
But they, at least, would have strutted about for a bit, feeling good about it, before going back to work.
So here are people in a video game playing declaring some other group to be lesser than they are and that's a ground for attacking them.
But it's their fault for not being you, right?
I can think of a lot of things I can fault people over for not being me. And what will that say about my character?
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
679
|
Posted - 2014.04.22 16:43:00 -
[83] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Axe Coldon wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Are you kidding? It's a great time to hop into a sensor-boosted Slasher, grab a bunch of flashy red Goon pods and add their burned corpses to your collection.
If you really want to protest, join one of the counter-terrorism fleets that will be operating in the area.
I know a guy that does exactly that. He hangs around in a boosted dessie and kills PODS of evil gankers. What's really fun is when he pisses off the gankers..they war dec him and he gets in a different alt and starts all over. Basically he must get ganker tears..if they are pissed off enough to war dec him over and over and never get a kill off him. instead of cycling characters, he could just join the npc corp. i fear he's not the brightest button in the box. Then people couldn't waste 50 Million for a pointless wardec, although he could as well just reopen his corp after dropping out. Anyhow, it seems you are not the brightestbutton in the box. But you're just a miner anyway. but if you're folding corps that cuts in to your pod ganking time! but i'm just a miner. Doing that during GCC does not.
Anyhow, it's weird, but it doesn't necessarioy mean he's dumb or something. Especially because he's not a miner. "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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handbanana
State War Academy Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:43:00 -
[84] - Quote
Does this thing have a real purpose or affect besides generating really bad forum threads? GÇ£It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.GÇ¥ -á-á -Jack Handy
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
679
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:46:00 -
[85] - Quote
handbanana wrote:Does this thing have a real purpose or effect besides generating really bad forum threads? It makes them, and everybody smart enough to understand it, dozens of billions of ISK. Each.
Every time you see somebody claim that it was pointless, worthless, useless, a failure or something equivalent, it wasn't them making shitloads of money off of it. "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Salvos Rhoska
1130
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:47:00 -
[86] - Quote
I applaud this content.
Well done. Burn the fk out of it. ------------ |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
679
|
Posted - 2014.04.22 16:48:00 -
[87] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:I applaud this content.
Well done. Burn the fk out of it. That's surprising. Wouldn't have thought you approve.
Nice. :) "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Dave Stark
4963
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:52:00 -
[88] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Doing that during GCC does not.
Anyhow, it's weird, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's dumb or something. Especially because he's not a miner like you are. I'm glad you are beginning to accept reality and stop denying it.
you go gcc for popping red pods? |

Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
822
|
Posted - 2014.04.22 16:54:00 -
[89] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How is someone an "entitled carebear" because they don't read the forums and watch what you post or go out of their way to keep track of (give attention to) you or "your kind"? They are entitled carebears because they feel they deserve to go about their business with zero risk at all times. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |

Salvos Rhoska
1130
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:55:00 -
[90] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:That's surprising. Wouldn't have thought you approve.
Nice. :)
I just haven't found my way out of high-sec yet. And unfortunately, I've made myself an enormous hated target due to my opinions on the Erotica1 issue.
Nonetheless, I hate fking high-sec, and the specifically the people in it. Hopefully soon I can become an proper angry hermit in a WH somewhere. ------------ |
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
400
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:57:00 -
[91] - Quote
Rhes wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How is someone an "entitled carebear" because they don't read the forums and watch what you post or go out of their way to keep track of (give attention to) you or "your kind"? They are entitled carebears because they feel they deserve to go about their business with zero risk at all times.
An exaggeration, and an opinion. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
680
|
Posted - 2014.04.22 16:57:00 -
[92] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Doing that during GCC does not.
Anyhow, it's weird, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's dumb or something. Especially because he's not a miner like you are. I'm glad you are beginning to accept reality and stop denying it. you go gcc for popping red pods? I thought he's not discriminating.
Derp.
Sorry. :/ "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Herzyr
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:59:00 -
[93] - Quote
I though ''Burn Jita'' was a once in a lifetime event,like the monocle incident, dunno why I keep thinking of Jita Riots when I think of Burn Jita.
So how does this work? Is it a FFA VS Goons when they come out of their hole? Do we cower in fear while docked as we see local spike? Do we wardec gewns for a chance of glorious killmails?
Being a late to EvE means I don't know the background of silly events like this.
Also, as the event goes on what do we do? stay away from Jita? I can only imagine that the market will go crazy with certain modules since they did post their fit and also because the trade hub will be closed so prices for ''normal'' commodities will sky rocket as well |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2260
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:03:00 -
[94] - Quote
Herzyr wrote:I though ''Burn Jita'' was a once in a lifetime event,like the monocle incident, dunno why I keep thinking of Jita Riots when I think of Burn Jita.
So how does this work? Is it a FFA VS Goons when they come out of their hole? Do we cower in fear while docked as we see local spike? Do we wardec gewns for a chance of glorious killmails?
Being a late to EvE means I don't know the background of silly events like this.
Also, as the event goes on? stay away from Jita? I can only imagine that the market will go crazy with certain modules since they did post their fit and also because the trade hub will be closed so prices for ''normal'' commodities will sky rocket as well
Just leave CONCORD to take care of the goons and allow the goons have their moment in the spotlight. This is not a signature. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:03:00 -
[95] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Solecist Project wrote:That's surprising. Wouldn't have thought you approve.
Nice. :) I just haven't found my way out of high-sec yet. And unfortunately, I've made myself an enormous hated target due to my opinions on the Erotica1 issue. Nonetheless, I hate fking high-sec, and the specifically the people in it. Hopefully soon I can become an proper angry hermit in a WH somewhere. Can't be only that, because I too believe she deserves the ban and should stay out.
Let us agree not to react to people who now start talking about this topic in here, because we both know it's pointless to talk about it anyway.
Let's just be happy about something we can agree on. :) "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Optimo Sebiestor
Intentionally Dense Easily Excited
250
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:06:00 -
[96] - Quote
Wake me up when something New is on the horizon.. |

Dave Stark
4965
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:06:00 -
[97] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Solecist Project wrote:That's surprising. Wouldn't have thought you approve.
Nice. :) I just haven't found my way out of high-sec yet. And unfortunately, I've made myself an enormous hated target due to my opinions on the Erotica1 issue. Nonetheless, I hate fking high-sec, and the specifically the people in it. Hopefully soon I can become an proper angry hermit in a WH somewhere.
actually we hate you because you make things up and provide no evidence to back your claims when questioned. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3290
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:06:00 -
[98] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How is someone an "entitled carebear" because they don't read the forums and watch what you post or go out of their way to keep track of (give attention to) you or "your kind"? They are an entitled carebear when they come on the forum demanding we are stopped and that all ganking is stopped so they can go on abotu their business oblivious to the meta game in the meta-driven sandbox game they play.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:From my perspective, it's just a declaration. "Those people over there are different from me! (now insert some accusation or label) Therefore they must dieeee!".
Is the pointlessness of this starting to sink in? No, killing a bunch of people in high sec is no different from killing a bunch of people in null sec. We kindly announce it so the smarter players can get out or come fights us. It's a game mate, this is how it's played. We fight each other. Get over it.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:So here are people in a video game playing declaring some other group to be lesser than they are and that's a ground for attacking them.
But it's their fault for not being you, right? they are not me, therefore they are valid targets in a PVP game. The end. It's not abut being someones fault or going on some crazy hate campaign, it's about us going to a place where there are other people and having a laugh shooting them, which is what the game is about, spaceships shooting each other. They are fully welcome to shoot back.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:You see I'm still trying to figure this out. "Entitled carebear"? Show me on your income sheet or on your personal timeline where the "entitled person or person who felt entitled" touched you in bad ways?
Or maybe what happened to you was your fault but you blame it on the other party being or feeling entitled? lol, that must be it. Not that I just find it amusing when someone can't be bothered to pay attention to the game they play, get blown up, then decide the best way to deal with this is to scream to high heaven and demand CCP take action.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:But where is the proof the everybody in highsec in a freighter/industrial is "entitled" in game (or felt so) or may have harmed you in real life with their sense of entitlement on other matters?
Are we so downtrodden in real life that "burn Jita" is the last stand of any dignity? I have seen in the goon rhetoric and the community how they appeal to the "beta male". Could the clues be there? I never said they all were, but generally the ones that complain are. The rest either go "I'm an idiot! Move on" or fight back.
And it's just fun bro, it's a game. Don;t get so emotionally tied to games, it's unhealthy.
There, I answered a few, but had to cut the fat a bit since it rambled some. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3290
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:07:00 -
[99] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Solecist Project wrote:That's surprising. Wouldn't have thought you approve.
Nice. :) I just haven't found my way out of high-sec yet. And unfortunately, I've made myself an enormous hated target due to my opinions on the Erotica1 issue. Nonetheless, I hate fking high-sec, and the specifically the people in it. Hopefully soon I can become an proper angry hermit in a WH somewhere. actually we hate you because you make things up and provide no evidence to back your claims when questioned. This.
Also, there's loads of people in all other sections of space that would take Salvos on regardless. If you can;t find a way out of high sec, you aren't looking. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
900
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:10:00 -
[100] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Solecist Project wrote:That's surprising. Wouldn't have thought you approve.
Nice. :) I just haven't found my way out of high-sec yet. And unfortunately, I've made myself an enormous hated target due to my opinions on the Erotica1 issue. Nonetheless, I hate fking high-sec, and the specifically the people in it. Hopefully soon I can become an proper angry hermit in a WH somewhere. actually we hate you because you make things up and provide no evidence to back your claims when questioned. and the condoning of violence irl for breakin arbitrary ingame ethical codes...don't forget that one. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á The Best Quote EVER Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
683
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:14:00 -
[101] - Quote
Listen to your queen.
Stop this, because you will just bounce around, echoing and mirroring negativity.
It's pointless pointing at people who did this or that or whatever. We all agree to have issues of some sort.
Be done with it.
Instead, listen to the powerpuff theme song!
Thanks! "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4795
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:16:00 -
[102] - Quote
Rhes wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How is someone an "entitled carebear" because they don't read the forums and watch what you post or go out of their way to keep track of (give attention to) you or "your kind"? They are entitled carebears because they feel they deserve to go about their business with zero risk at all times.
And you know this how? Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Dave Stark
4965
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:19:00 -
[103] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Rhes wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How is someone an "entitled carebear" because they don't read the forums and watch what you post or go out of their way to keep track of (give attention to) you or "your kind"? They are entitled carebears because they feel they deserve to go about their business with zero risk at all times. And you know this how?
because they regularly express this opinion on the forums. especially any thread mentioning "freighter". |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4795
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:22:00 -
[104] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:They are an entitled carebear when they come on the forum demanding we are stopped and that all ganking is stopped so they can go on abotu their business oblivious to the meta game in the meta-driven sandbox game they play.
Show me proof. Anybody can go in a forum with an opinion. But where is there proof of a concerted effort to stop ganking to such measure that a concerted effort to gank them is called for.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
401
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:23:00 -
[105] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Listen to your queen.
Stop this, because you will just bounce around, echoing and mirroring negativity.
It's pointless pointing at people who did this or that or whatever. We all agree to have issues of some sort.
Be done with it.
Instead, listen to the powerpuff theme song!
Thanks!
Lead through example. I'll consider your slate clean until you dirty it, then the weight and reality of the words will be brought down with true moral authority.
So until then:
You heard her kids, quit the cryin' and play nice.
#thetrueking Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4795
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:23:00 -
[106] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Rhes wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How is someone an "entitled carebear" because they don't read the forums and watch what you post or go out of their way to keep track of (give attention to) you or "your kind"? They are entitled carebears because they feel they deserve to go about their business with zero risk at all times. And you know this how? because they regularly express this opinion on the forums. especially any thread mentioning "freighter".
So people who express an opinion on a forum are to be targeted, but it's' their fault if they get ganked because they don't read the forums, yet they are here (where are the threads, BTW?) trying to stop ganking, and therefore will know about this event, and therefore not be the people who want to gank because they went to the forums and insulted your way of life.
I don't think you are going to hit the targets you are looking for.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Dave Stark
4965
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:25:00 -
[107] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:So people who express an opinion on a forum are to be targeted, but it's' their fault if they get ganked because they don't read the forums, yet they are here (where are the threads, BTW?) trying to stop ganking, and therefore will know about this event, and therefore not be the people who want to gank because they went to the forums and insulted your way of life.
I don't think you are going to hit the targets you are looking for.
i'm not hitting any targets. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4796
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:26:00 -
[108] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:So people who express an opinion on a forum are to be targeted, but it's' their fault if they get ganked because they don't read the forums, yet they are here (where are the threads, BTW?) trying to stop ganking, and therefore will know about this event, and therefore not be the people who want to gank because they went to the forums and insulted your way of life.
I don't think you are going to hit the targets you are looking for.
i'm not hitting any targets.
And I would also wager that the "carebears" are not trying to eliminate all ganking either.
Does anybody comprehend anything any more? Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Dave Stark
4967
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:28:00 -
[109] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Does anybody comprehend anything any more? purple. |

Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
824
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:30:00 -
[110] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Rhes wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How is someone an "entitled carebear" because they don't read the forums and watch what you post or go out of their way to keep track of (give attention to) you or "your kind"? They are entitled carebears because they feel they deserve to go about their business with zero risk at all times. And you know this how? You should try reading these forums sometime.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
2184
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:46:00 -
[111] - Quote
Without made-up enemies, spaceship battle game would be no fun. "I want to blow you up because of *reasons*," is a perfectly valid excuse.
Don't go to Jita this weekend in your freighter. Someone might blow it up. Why? *reasons*. I know violence isn't the answer, I got it wrong on purpose. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11257
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:47:00 -
[112] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:So people who express an opinion on a forum are to be targeted, but it's' their fault if they get ganked because they don't read the forums, yet they are here (where are the threads, BTW?) trying to stop ganking, and therefore will know about this event, and therefore not be the people who want to gank because they went to the forums and insulted your way of life.
I don't think you are going to hit the targets you are looking for.
i'm not hitting any targets. And I would also wager that the "carebears" are not trying to eliminate all ganking either. Does anybody comprehend anything any more?
I exepect at least three topics a week after this event, one a day if they stick to Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2260
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:50:00 -
[113] - Quote
Hello Baltec, would you please be kind enough to explain to the good folk of Eve, how and why Burn Jita is the fault of hi-sec players? This is not a signature. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
401
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:50:00 -
[114] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:
I exepect at least three topics a week after this event, one a day if they stick to
So it's safe to say the motivation behind "burn jita" is to upset people enough to want to make forum posts where they describe how they're unhappy with the outcome of the "event" that took place?
Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4797
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:56:00 -
[115] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:baltec1 wrote:
I exepect at least three topics a week after this event, one a day if they stick to
So it's safe to say the motivation behind "burn jita" is to upset people enough to want to make forum posts where they describe how they're unhappy with the outcome of the "event" that took place?
I see the pattern. Gank freighters, point and laugh, and if a few of them start threads over it, use those threads for this:
"LOOK THEY ARE ALL OVER THE FORUMS TRYING TO END GANKING!!!!!!1!!!!eleven!!!! TO THE HTFU MOBILE!!!!!!marshamarshamarsha!!!!"
Quite a simple pattern really. I'd expect people smart enough to play this game to notice it. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
164
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:59:00 -
[116] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
But hey, high sec industry is being made extinct, and I am sure that 10 people will sign up to be a null sec serf for every high sec casual player quits. So go ahead clowns, act like jerks this weekend. Knock yourself out.
You seem overly butthurt about player driven content coming to Jita. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |

Dave Stark
4970
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:59:00 -
[117] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Hello Baltec, would you please be kind enough to explain to the good folk of Eve, how and why Burn Jita is the fault of hi-sec players? at a guess, the answer will probably be close to the following; because they provide the best whining and tears when you shoot them. |

Salvos Rhoska
1135
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:02:00 -
[118] - Quote
Necessary Evil Some Men
Burn it till there is nothing left.
A better EVE shall grow from its ashes. ------------ |

Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
3069
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:02:00 -
[119] - Quote
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:So Sociopaths Online kicks in again...yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
But hey, high sec industry is being made extinct, and I am sure that 10 people will sign up to be a null sec serf for every high sec casual player quits. So go ahead clowns, act like jerks this weekend. Knock yourself out.
You seem overly butthurt about player driven content coming to Jita. dinsdale? yeah, the going theory is he sat on a railway spike as a small child |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3291
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:12:00 -
[120] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:They are an entitled carebear when they come on the forum demanding we are stopped and that all ganking is stopped so they can go on abotu their business oblivious to the meta game in the meta-driven sandbox game they play. Show me proof. Anybody can go in a forum with an opinion. But where is there proof of a concerted effort to stop ganking to such measure that a concerted effort to gank them is called for. I don't think you get it. We are not going "ohhh sooo many entitled carebears, we must gank!". We are ganking for fun, just the target rich environment happens to contain a lot of entitled carebears who cry a lot about it, which we find amusing, which further encourages us to return to the same location next time around. You are the one that is turning it into some diabolical hate campaign, we are just playing a game, where spaceships blow up. Get over it.
Honestly, we love carebears. We want loads of them. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
404
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:14:00 -
[121] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:They are an entitled carebear when they come on the forum demanding we are stopped and that all ganking is stopped so they can go on abotu their business oblivious to the meta game in the meta-driven sandbox game they play. Show me proof. Anybody can go in a forum with an opinion. But where is there proof of a concerted effort to stop ganking to such measure that a concerted effort to gank them is called for. I don't think you get it. We are not going "ohhh sooo many entitled carebears, we must gank!". We are ganking for fun, just the target rich environment happens to contain a lot of entitled carebears who cry a lot about it, which we find amusing, which further encourages us to return to the same location next time around. You are the one that is turning it into some diabolical hate campaign, we are just playing a game, where spaceships blow up. Get over it.
So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you?
That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Tubrug1
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
471
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:14:00 -
[122] - Quote
By the way I'm selling Jita safety permits to anyone who wants one, price is negotiable and there's a special discount if you're Gevlon Goblin or Dinsdale. I'm not an evil Goon so you can trust me. Writer of The Eve Onion http://eveion.blogspot.co.uk/
I have a Twitter |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3291
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:15:00 -
[123] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:They are an entitled carebear when they come on the forum demanding we are stopped and that all ganking is stopped so they can go on abotu their business oblivious to the meta game in the meta-driven sandbox game they play. Show me proof. Anybody can go in a forum with an opinion. But where is there proof of a concerted effort to stop ganking to such measure that a concerted effort to gank them is called for. I don't think you get it. We are not going "ohhh sooo many entitled carebears, we must gank!". We are ganking for fun, just the target rich environment happens to contain a lot of entitled carebears who cry a lot about it, which we find amusing, which further encourages us to return to the same location next time around. You are the one that is turning it into some diabolical hate campaign, we are just playing a game, where spaceships blow up. Get over it. So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you? That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff. No, playing a PVP game where you blow up other ships is amusing to me. Someone flipping out because they can't separate a game from their emotions is just a bonus. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Dave Stark
4972
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:16:00 -
[124] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:They are an entitled carebear when they come on the forum demanding we are stopped and that all ganking is stopped so they can go on abotu their business oblivious to the meta game in the meta-driven sandbox game they play. Show me proof. Anybody can go in a forum with an opinion. But where is there proof of a concerted effort to stop ganking to such measure that a concerted effort to gank them is called for. I don't think you get it. We are not going "ohhh sooo many entitled carebears, we must gank!". We are ganking for fun, just the target rich environment happens to contain a lot of entitled carebears who cry a lot about it, which we find amusing, which further encourages us to return to the same location next time around. You are the one that is turning it into some diabolical hate campaign, we are just playing a game, where spaceships blow up. Get over it. So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you? That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff.
if you're in distress when some one blows up your internet spaceship i advise you seek professional help for the myriad of mental issues you quite clearly have. |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
164
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:20:00 -
[125] - Quote
Miichael Epic wrote:Most of the people that play this game are idiots....complete and total sociopaths as Dinsdale put it. These people likely have to be upstanding citizens in real life and go to work and do a good job but as soon as get get home, they get to be who they really are inside.
People who have no power in their lives, will try to exert power over others in a video game. None of them are kings in real life, so wearing the king douche hat in a video game will have to suffice for them. Its the only way they can manage their meek and cowardly existence.
Terms such as "HTFU" and "Carebear" or the most popular "Butthurt" perhaps weren't coined by, but certainly enjoyed by the meek and cowardly population of EVE/Dust in order to make themselves feel better about things they know are doing wrong. They must assume a fake sense of bravado and puff out their internet chests and tell you to HARDEN THE F!_!CK UP if you don't like it.
Not really. I enjoy suicide ganking because it makes people like you overly upset that I attacked you in a video game. You are letting people having their own brand of fun in a video game upset you. It's like playing War Thunder and getting mad someone finds it comical that a T1 Biplane ramming into a T4 Bomber leads to the death of the bomber. It's all a game, and you trying to supplant that someone who doesn't do what you want as "sociopaths" is comically spergy. I would imagine you're the type of guy who, like Ripard Teg, can't bring himself to talk to someone like me, or a Goon or The Mittani in person despite being in the same room. Instead you'll sit there quiet and sullen filled with contempt for "that damned sociopath" and then wander off telling yourself you're so bad ass for thinking that person is a jerk.
Also the term "HTFU" was heavily promoted and utilized by the developers of this here game. You're implying that people like CCP Guard are "meek" and "cowardly" despite him sparring with some Tae Kwon Do vikings as well as training with a professional fighter in his off time. Or that CCP Fozzie is "meek" and "cowardly" because he was a member of PL who use those evil terms you're condemning, despite him being loved for being overly geeky with his spaceship number crunching. I'd tell you to get a grip on reality but honestly I think you're too far gone. You're best just seeking professional help. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
404
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:21:00 -
[126] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:They are an entitled carebear when they come on the forum demanding we are stopped and that all ganking is stopped so they can go on abotu their business oblivious to the meta game in the meta-driven sandbox game they play. Show me proof. Anybody can go in a forum with an opinion. But where is there proof of a concerted effort to stop ganking to such measure that a concerted effort to gank them is called for. I don't think you get it. We are not going "ohhh sooo many entitled carebears, we must gank!". We are ganking for fun, just the target rich environment happens to contain a lot of entitled carebears who cry a lot about it, which we find amusing, which further encourages us to return to the same location next time around. You are the one that is turning it into some diabolical hate campaign, we are just playing a game, where spaceships blow up. Get over it. So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you? That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff. No, playing a PVP game where you blow up other ships is amusing to me. Someone flipping out because they can't separate a game from their emotions is just a bonus.
So yes.
OK thanks for clarifying. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
404
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:22:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:They are an entitled carebear when they come on the forum demanding we are stopped and that all ganking is stopped so they can go on abotu their business oblivious to the meta game in the meta-driven sandbox game they play. Show me proof. Anybody can go in a forum with an opinion. But where is there proof of a concerted effort to stop ganking to such measure that a concerted effort to gank them is called for. I don't think you get it. We are not going "ohhh sooo many entitled carebears, we must gank!". We are ganking for fun, just the target rich environment happens to contain a lot of entitled carebears who cry a lot about it, which we find amusing, which further encourages us to return to the same location next time around. You are the one that is turning it into some diabolical hate campaign, we are just playing a game, where spaceships blow up. Get over it. So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you? That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff. if you're in distress when some one blows up your internet spaceship i advise you seek professional help for the myriad of mental issues you quite clearly have.
I would suggest that to the person who is in distress as well, but also to the person who is deriving enjoyment about being the cause of it, and actively seeking an opportunity to cause it again. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4797
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:24:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:They are an entitled carebear when they come on the forum demanding we are stopped and that all ganking is stopped so they can go on abotu their business oblivious to the meta game in the meta-driven sandbox game they play. Show me proof. Anybody can go in a forum with an opinion. But where is there proof of a concerted effort to stop ganking to such measure that a concerted effort to gank them is called for. I don't think you get it. We are not going "ohhh sooo many entitled carebears, we must gank!". We are ganking for fun, just the target rich environment happens to contain a lot of entitled carebears who cry a lot about it, which we find amusing, which further encourages us to return to the same location next time around. You are the one that is turning it into some diabolical hate campaign, we are just playing a game, where spaceships blow up. Get over it. So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you? That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff. No, playing a PVP game where you blow up other ships is amusing to me. Someone flipping out because they can't separate a game from their emotions is just a bonus.
But that emotion you feel when you gank some "entitled carebear" is real. Why bother in a game to get these "tears"? You can use a game to achieve certain emotions but your victim is not allowed? And then at the same time, if you do tee someone off, you will use it as an excuse and blame the victim for not "separating a game from their emotions" when you are the one enjoying it (an emotion) and seeking an emotion?
Your sense of entitlement and your perceptual disconnect is impressive.
While you might be inclined to think that people who "can't HTFU" will be the ones leaving the game, it's really going to be the people who just don't want any association with people having that kind of twisted thought process. It's bad enough we have to put up with such personalities running the real world. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
900
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:24:00 -
[129] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote: I would suggest that to the person who is in distress as well, but also to the person who is deriving enjoyment about being the cause of it, and actively seeking an opportunity to cause it again.
in a game expressly about just that Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á The Best Quote EVER Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3291
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:24:00 -
[130] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you?
That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff. No, playing a PVP game where you blow up other ships is amusing to me. Someone flipping out because they can't separate a game from their emotions is just a bonus. So yes. OK thanks for clarifying. lol, if that's how you want to take that, go right ahead. I'm perfectly happy with my mental stability. I would however question yours if you are in the aforementioned group of people unable to separate a video game from their real life emotional state. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
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Dave Stark
4975
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:26:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:I would suggest that to the person who is in distress as well, but also to the person who is deriving enjoyment about being the cause of it and actively seeking an opportunity to cause it again. TIL: if you enjoy playing video games, you should seek a mental health specialist. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4798
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:30:00 -
[132] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you?
That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff. No, playing a PVP game where you blow up other ships is amusing to me. Someone flipping out because they can't separate a game from their emotions is just a bonus. So yes. OK thanks for clarifying. lol, if that's how you want to take that, go right ahead. I'm perfectly happy with my mental stability. I would however question yours if you are in the aforementioned group of people unable to separate a video game from their real life emotional state.
Aye but you see, when someone want to "harvest tears" there is already grounds to wonder about their stability and motivations.
How is it that you can go harvesting tears, and enjoy that, and it's all good and worthy and HTFU or something, but when someone gets buttmad, they are wrong, bad for the game, should quit, and are deemed "unstable" for being unable to "separate a game from their emotions". You are the one cornering the "emotions derived from a game" aspect. You can have emotions but they cannot? You can go and gank and grin and enjoy yourself and bask in the hate mail but they can't react? If they react, it's tears, right? But if they don't react, then that's also tears because they are too mad, right? Is that not rather creeper-ish? You know, the guys who think the girls who won't talk to them really want them.
That anybody can fail at recognizing this double edged blade and be so one-sided is disconcerting. This is the very thought process that weaponized democracy and made a mess of the world. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
404
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:31:00 -
[133] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:I would suggest that to the person who is in distress as well, but also to the person who is deriving enjoyment about being the cause of it and actively seeking an opportunity to cause it again. TIL: if you enjoy playing video games, you should seek a mental health specialist.
Well while you're free to come up with whatever knowledge you wish to extract based on your own misconceptions, it wasn't the intention of my post which should be easily discernible considering the issue I'm clearly addressing is the desire to recreate the feeling of distress that potentially mentally ill person is exhibiting.
Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Dave Stark
4975
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:33:00 -
[134] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:I would suggest that to the person who is in distress as well, but also to the person who is deriving enjoyment about being the cause of it and actively seeking an opportunity to cause it again. TIL: if you enjoy playing video games, you should seek a mental health specialist. Well while you're free to come up with whatever knowledge you wish to extract based on your own misconceptions, it wasn't the intention of my post which should be easily discernible considering the issue I'm clearly addressing is the desire to recreate the feeling of distress that potentially mentally ill person is exhibiting.
i was mocking you.
if some one has a mental issue because they can't disassociate a game from real life; that is what's causing the distress. not the person playing another player in an MMO. |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
165
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:33:00 -
[135] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:They are an entitled carebear when they come on the forum demanding we are stopped and that all ganking is stopped so they can go on abotu their business oblivious to the meta game in the meta-driven sandbox game they play. Show me proof. Anybody can go in a forum with an opinion. But where is there proof of a concerted effort to stop ganking to such measure that a concerted effort to gank them is called for. I don't think you get it. We are not going "ohhh sooo many entitled carebears, we must gank!". We are ganking for fun, just the target rich environment happens to contain a lot of entitled carebears who cry a lot about it, which we find amusing, which further encourages us to return to the same location next time around. You are the one that is turning it into some diabolical hate campaign, we are just playing a game, where spaceships blow up. Get over it. So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you? That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff.
You do realize this is a video game right? And none of this is truly reflective of a players real world persona. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |

Salvos Rhoska
1135
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:34:00 -
[136] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How is it that you can go harvesting tears, and enjoy that, and it's all good and worthy and HTFU or something, but when someone gets buttmad, they are wrong, bad for the game, should quit, and are deemed "unstable" for being unable to "separate a game from their emotions"
You have a point.
Both have a right to express themselves, equally. ------------ |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3291
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:35:00 -
[137] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:No, playing a PVP game where you blow up other ships is amusing to me. Someone flipping out because they can't separate a game from their emotions is just a bonus. But that emotion you feel when you gank some "entitled carebear" is real. Why bother in a game to get these "tears"? You can use a game to achieve certain emotions but your victim is not allowed? And then at the same time, if you do tee someone off, you will use it as an excuse and blame the victim for not "separating a game from their emotions" when you are the one enjoying it (an emotion) and seeking an emotion? What emotion? I find it entraining, sure, but no more than any other game. I'm not collapsing on the floor in hysterics screaming "oh god look at the entitlement! MUA HA HA HA HA!".
Let me put it this way. I play a game for fun. They play a game for fun. The game is competetive. If they get legitimately upset with losing in a video game, maybe they need to find a new source of entertainment. We certainly shouldn't just close off the sandbox because some people want to shoot red crosses and never get interrupted, and when people get as riled up about it as some of them do, they need serious professional help.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:While you might be inclined to think that people who "can't HTFU" will be the ones leaving the game, it's really going to be the people who just don't want any association with people having that kind of twisted thought process. It's bad enough we have to put up with such personalities running the real world. I quite literally couldn't care any less about who leaves the game and who doesn't. It's a game, it's played for enjoyment. If you don't get enjoyment, stop playing. Simple. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
165
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:36:00 -
[138] - Quote
Please don't forget about the important going away party we're throwing in Kinakka (just 9 jumps from Jita!) for one of the Waffles who is retiring from EVE due to real life taking more time than he can afford to spend shooting carebears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uRsv2x3jp8 LeeSsang. Never Forget. |

Desivo Delta Visseroff
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
207
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:36:00 -
[139] - Quote
What would every recommend for the innocent pilot who merely wants to fly around and jack loot???
And if said pilot would also be willing to offer the occasional bump to assist with the dropping of such loot to be jacked? |

Salvos Rhoska
1135
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:37:00 -
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In all honesty, I can't see how there is anyway that you aren't laughed at by anyone you fly with. I bet they all cringe at your whiney voice and endless empty self-justification over voice comm.
I mean seriously, AWOXing you would be worth it, just for the unbelievable butthurt and bleed it would result in here and everywhere as you run around like a headless chicken trying to make heads or tails of why nobody likes you. ------------ |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3291
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:40:00 -
[141] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:In all honesty, I can't see how there is anyway that you aren't laughed at by anyone you fly with. I bet they all cringe at your whiney voice and endless empty self-justification over voice comm. Great personal attack buddy!. I mean it made absolutely no sense, and you have no idea what my "whiney voice" sounds like, not to mention that I'm responding to someone that thinks it's unfair that high sec players should be victims of space violence in a PVP centred game, thus pretty much the opposite of whining, but by all means proceed.
Salvos Rhoska wrote:I mean seriously, AWOXing you would be worth it, just for the unbelievable butthurt and bleed it would result in here and everywhere as you run around like a headless chicken trying to make heads or tails of why nobody likes you. How in the name of Chribba did you get that impression? I'm pretty sure at this point you must be reading someone else's posts and thinking they are me. I mean for starters it would be basically impossible to awox me for more than 20b or so, and secondly, if you took away everything I had in game, it's still a game.
Seriously mate, if you are going to stalk me around the forums telling me how stupid I am and how much everyone hates me and such, you could at least try to make a little sense when you do so. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
404
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:40:00 -
[142] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you?
That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff. No, playing a PVP game where you blow up other ships is amusing to me. Someone flipping out because they can't separate a game from their emotions is just a bonus. So yes. OK thanks for clarifying. lol, if that's how you want to take that, go right ahead. I'm perfectly happy with my mental stability. I would however question yours if you are in the aforementioned group of people unable to separate a video game from their real life emotional state.
Which there's no evidence of me being upset upon dying in a video game. So while I understand the point you're trying to make about "people who do", I think it's fair to establish that I am not one of them, which no one can link proof that says other wise because there is none.
While on the contrary, regarding evidence, you yourself stated an enjoyment at watching others become and act upset. So, I mean whatever, if you say you're not, sure, I'll take it for face value, but be advised there is a contradiction surrounding your stance.
I'd suggest perhaps removing the "tears" argument and referring to them as an undesired "collateral damage" surrounding your attempt to play the game how you see fit, rather than stating the "tears" as something you enjoy.
Only if you want to be able to maintain your stance in an unquestionable fashion of course, you do what you want. I'll only sit back here and make my judgments, which really, who am I for you to care about what I think? Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Magnus Cortex
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:42:00 -
[143] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you?
That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff.
Idk man I never paused to reflect on the emotional state of my opposing team in LOL or DOTA2. Or thought twice about that guy I just scored a sweet 360 No Scope on in BF4.
If people get emotionally distressed over video games they probably ought to unplug and do something else.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4798
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:44:00 -
[144] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:No, playing a PVP game where you blow up other ships is amusing to me. Someone flipping out because they can't separate a game from their emotions is just a bonus. But that emotion you feel when you gank some "entitled carebear" is real. Why bother in a game to get these "tears"? You can use a game to achieve certain emotions but your victim is not allowed? And then at the same time, if you do tee someone off, you will use it as an excuse and blame the victim for not "separating a game from their emotions" when you are the one enjoying it (an emotion) and seeking an emotion? What emotion? I find it entraining, sure, but no more than any other game. I'm not collapsing on the floor in hysterics screaming "oh god look at the entitlement! MUA HA HA HA HA!". Let me put it this way. I play a game for fun. They play a game for fun. The game is competetive. If they get legitimately upset with losing in a video game, maybe they need to find a new source of entertainment. We certainly shouldn't just close off the sandbox because some people want to shoot red crosses and never get interrupted, and when people get as riled up about it as some of them do, they need serious professional help. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:While you might be inclined to think that people who "can't HTFU" will be the ones leaving the game, it's really going to be the people who just don't want any association with people having that kind of twisted thought process. It's bad enough we have to put up with such personalities running the real world. I quite literally couldn't care any less about who leaves the game and who doesn't. It's a game, it's played for enjoyment. If you don't get enjoyment, stop playing. Simple.
Taking my points to strawman levels as a means of trying to debunk them. I feel like I'm married again.
But you get legitimately glad, and from your rhetoric, enjoy it even more if they get buttmad, yet you say "they" should leave the game and "they need serious professional help".
Can you at least step back and ask yourself "What am I missing here?".
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
404
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:45:00 -
[145] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote: and when people get as riled up about it as some of them do, they need serious professional help.
So if you honestly feel that these people who get upset need "serious professional help", what type of person are you who laughs at them, people who you feel need "professional serious help"? Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Desivo Delta Visseroff
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
207
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:45:00 -
[146] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:XOXOXOXOXO Huggs & Kisses
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
900
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:46:00 -
[147] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: and when people get as riled up about it as some of them do, they need serious professional help.
So if you honestly feel that these people who get upset need "serious professional help", what type of person are you who laughs at them, people who you feel need "professional serious help"? a pc gamer, duh. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á The Best Quote EVER Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
407
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:46:00 -
[148] - Quote
Magnus Cortex wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you?
That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff. Idk man I never paused to reflect on the emotional state of my opposing team in LOL or DOTA2. Or thought twice about that guy I just scored a sweet 360 No Scope on in BF4. If people get emotionally distressed over video games they probably ought to unplug and do something else.
I think it's fair to state that for the record, LoL, Dota2, and BF4 are not EvE online. Not even the same genre, really. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Salvos Rhoska
1135
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:46:00 -
[149] - Quote
Lol Lucas.
The funniest thing is when I watch you desperately adding new paragraphs in endless edits. Everytime I click Reply, there's another paragraph waiting, not yet updated to the board.
Yeah, I figure I got you nailed in the last one. Certainly bleed like a stuck pig. Truth hurts, don't it. ------------ |

Dave Stark
4977
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:46:00 -
[150] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: and when people get as riled up about it as some of them do, they need serious professional help.
So if you honestly feel that these people who get upset need "serious professional help", what type of person are you who laughs at them, people who you feel need "professional serious help"?
them needing serious professional help is totally irrelevant, i always laugh at people i gank regardless of their mental health. |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:47:00 -
[151] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:While on the contrary, regarding evidence, you yourself stated an enjoyment at watching others become and act upset. So, I mean whatever, if you say you're not, sure, I'll take it for face value, but be advised there is a contradiction surrounding your stance. And like I previously stated, if you want to take it that way, however misguided, you are welcome to. You opinion of me doesn't actually affect me you know, so while you feel the need to sit here on the internets insulting me and telling me how much of a horrible person I must be IRL, I'll happily continue on perfectly happy with my personal traits and mental stability. Funny how there's no judgement on what type of person you have to be to create a forum trolling alt and roam around the forum looking for opportunities to attack people though huh?  The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:48:00 -
[152] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Lol Lucas.
The funniest thing is when I watch you desperately adding new paragraphs in endless edits. Everytime I click Reply, there's another paragraph waiting, not yet updated to the board.
Yeah, I figure I got you nailed in the last one. Certainly bleed like a stuck pig. Truth hurts, don't it. LOL Yes, I edited in my response to respond to the paragraph you added to your post after I quoted it. Totally my fault. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
407
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:51:00 -
[153] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:While on the contrary, regarding evidence, you yourself stated an enjoyment at watching others become and act upset. So, I mean whatever, if you say you're not, sure, I'll take it for face value, but be advised there is a contradiction surrounding your stance. And like I previously stated, if you want to take it that way, however misguided, you are welcome to. You opinion of me doesn't actually affect me you know, so while you feel the need to sit here on the internets insulting me and telling me how much of a horrible person I must be IRL, I'll happily continue on perfectly happy with my personal traits and mental stability. Funny how there's no judgement on what type of person you have to be to create a forum trolling alt and roam around the forum looking for opportunities to attack people though huh? 
I'm not insulting you, I'm pointing out a contradiction in your argument. If you'll state that it's OK for you to suggest that one archetype of people need "professional serious help" because they get mad at video games, then it's also perfectly logical to arrive at the conclusion that the people who laugh at people who need "professional serious help", need some themselves.
If you don't wish to portray yourself in a manner that depicts you as needing "professional serious help", then it would be wise to not express delight in watching the misery of people you feel need "professional serious help".
but if you're fine with contradicting yourself, well whatever then, do what you wish man! Have a blast! Sing in the rain of the tears of your enemies!
I hope you have an incredibly enjoyable weekend. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
165
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:52:00 -
[154] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: and when people get as riled up about it as some of them do, they need serious professional help.
So if you honestly feel that these people who get upset need "serious professional help", what type of person are you who laughs at them, people who you feel need "professional serious help"?
The same kind of person as you are when you laugh at Schaudenfraude.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
407
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:52:00 -
[155] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: and when people get as riled up about it as some of them do, they need serious professional help.
So if you honestly feel that these people who get upset need "serious professional help", what type of person are you who laughs at them, people who you feel need "professional serious help"? them needing serious professional help is totally irrelevant, i always laugh at people i gank regardless of their mental health.
Which is perfectly fine. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:53:00 -
[156] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Taking my points to strawman levels as a means of trying to debunk them. I feel like I'm married again.
But you get legitimately glad, and from your rhetoric, enjoy it even more if they get buttmad, yet you say "they" should leave the game and "they need serious professional help".
Can you at least step back and ask yourself "What am I missing here?". Where did I say that people should leave the game because they are butthurt? I stated that you should stop playing a game, which is designed for enjoyment, if you don't enjoy the game. That is any game. The fact is EVE is a PVP game. If you don't enjoy PVP, why are you playing? CCP aren't going to suddenly roll over and turn the game into wow so people can shoot red crosses in complete safety, so going all the way back to what CCPs response is to that: HTFU. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Magnus Cortex
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:54:00 -
[157] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Magnus Cortex wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you?
That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff. Idk man I never paused to reflect on the emotional state of my opposing team in LOL or DOTA2. Or thought twice about that guy I just scored a sweet 360 No Scope on in BF4. If people get emotionally distressed over video games they probably ought to unplug and do something else. I think it's fair to state that for the record, LoL, Dota2, and BF4 are not EvE online. Not even the same genre, really.
Well they are all games man, with pvp in them. Games. Played on a computer. Computer games.
Magnus Cortex wrote:If people get emotionally distressed over video games they probably ought to unplug and do something else.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
407
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:55:00 -
[158] - Quote
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: and when people get as riled up about it as some of them do, they need serious professional help.
So if you honestly feel that these people who get upset need "serious professional help", what type of person are you who laughs at them, people who you feel need "professional serious help"? The same kind of person as you are when you laugh at Schaudenfraude.
I do not. I'm empathic. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Salvos Rhoska
1135
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:57:00 -
[159] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Yes, I edited in my response to respond to the paragraph you added to your post after I quoted it. Totally my fault.
No, you where adding paragraphs every time I clicked Reply. I can see them, you know, even though they haven't updated to the board yet.
I know for sure I couldn't stand your whining and self-pontification on voice comm, and I doubt anyone else who has to listen to you does either.
You know what a true test of character is? How you would manage if you where thrown out on your ass. I imagine you would look and sound something like this: Lucas on his lonesome
I mean honestly, do you think they are interested in the crap you must spout non-stop? Must be unbearable to listen. Bet most of the fleets you fly in either cringe or have you muted already. ------------ |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:57:00 -
[160] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:I'm not insulting you, I'm pointing out a contradiction in your argument. If you'll state that it's OK for you to suggest that one archetype of people need "professional serious help" because they get mad at video games, then it's also perfectly logical to arrive at the conclusion that the people who laugh at people who need "professional serious help", need some themselves.
If you don't wish to portray yourself in a manner that depicts you as needing "professional serious help", then it would be wise to not express delight in watching the misery of people you feel need "professional serious help".
but if you're fine with contradicting yourself, well whatever then, do what you wish man! Have a blast! Sing in the rain of the tears of your enemies!
I hope you have an incredibly enjoyable weekend. There's a difference. The game isn't made so people can get emotionally attached and upset when they lose their space pixels, and doing so is legitimately a sign of needed help as it shows some serious separation issues. If however you think the desire to beat another player at a game and derive entertainment from beating them regardless of their response is an automatic sign of the same, then if your mind, every competitive gamer, every sports professional, and even every chess champion is in need of professional help.
honestly, these things shouldn't need to be explained. It's clear that as usual you are just here to troll and nothing more, huh? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
407
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:58:00 -
[161] - Quote
Magnus Cortex wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Magnus Cortex wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So watching someone else in distress is amusing to you?
That's good to know, about your personalities and stuff. Idk man I never paused to reflect on the emotional state of my opposing team in LOL or DOTA2. Or thought twice about that guy I just scored a sweet 360 No Scope on in BF4. If people get emotionally distressed over video games they probably ought to unplug and do something else. I think it's fair to state that for the record, LoL, Dota2, and BF4 are not EvE online. Not even the same genre, really. Well they are all games man, with pvp in them. Games. Played on a computer. Computer games. Magnus Cortex wrote:If people get emotionally distressed over video games they probably ought to unplug and do something else.
Thank you for explaining to me that computer games are computer games, but just as a piece of granite is a rock, it's still not the same as obsidian. If you wish to say that LoL and Dota2 are just like EvE because they're both computer games, then I could very well use that same logic of yours to state that EvE and real life are 100% exactly the same because they're both encompassed within real life. Which, if we made that correlation, it would open up tons of doors that should probably remain closed. Some examples like, well if YOU insist EvE and Real life are exactly the same because LoL and EvE are the same, then that means choosing to kill someone in EvE is just like choosing to kill someone IRL, which no one wants to participate in, even myself. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:00:00 -
[162] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Yes, I edited in my response to respond to the paragraph you added to your post after I quoted it. Totally my fault. No, you where adding paragraphs every time I clicked Reply. I can see them, you know, even though they haven't updated to the board yet. I know for sure I couldn't stand your whining and self-pontification on voice comm, and I doubt anyone else who has to listen to you does either. You know what a true test of character is? How you would manage if you where thrown out on your ass. I imagine you would look and sound something like this: Lucas on his lonesomeI mean honestly, do you think they are interested in the crap you must spout non-stop? Must be unbearable to listen. Bet most of the fleets you fly in either cringe or have you muted already. Where? Where did I add a paragraph other than that response?
Get over yourself buddy, you aren't some genius burning me with your mad dissing skillz, you are a guy in front of a computer lobbing personal attacks at a stranger on the internet and chuckling to yourself. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
901
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:00:00 -
[163] - Quote
This is a poor argument, everyone should go blow something up, or make something whatever. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á The Best Quote EVER Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
407
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:02:00 -
[164] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:I'm not insulting you, I'm pointing out a contradiction in your argument. If you'll state that it's OK for you to suggest that one archetype of people need "professional serious help" because they get mad at video games, then it's also perfectly logical to arrive at the conclusion that the people who laugh at people who need "professional serious help", need some themselves.
If you don't wish to portray yourself in a manner that depicts you as needing "professional serious help", then it would be wise to not express delight in watching the misery of people you feel need "professional serious help".
but if you're fine with contradicting yourself, well whatever then, do what you wish man! Have a blast! Sing in the rain of the tears of your enemies!
I hope you have an incredibly enjoyable weekend. There's a difference. The game isn't made so people can get emotionally attached and upset when they lose their space pixels, and doing so is legitimately a sign of needed help as it shows some serious separation issues. If however you think the desire to beat another player at a game and derive entertainment from beating them regardless of their response is an automatic sign of the same, then if your mind, every competitive gamer, every sports professional, and even every chess champion is in need of professional help. honestly, these things shouldn't need to be explained. It's clear that as usual you are just here to troll and nothing more, huh?
O no, because I've stated multiple times that playing the game for the sake of playing the game is perfectly legitimate. The only issue I've raised with you is your admittance to stating enjoyment at others suffering. I've never said to you 'blowing up space ships is bad". Granted it's understood by both of us that their reaction is "irrational" and indicates a need of "professional serious help", but on that same hand I state that if you're the type of person who laughs at those who you feel "need "professional serious help", you probably need some yourself. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Dave Stark
4978
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:02:00 -
[165] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: and when people get as riled up about it as some of them do, they need serious professional help.
So if you honestly feel that these people who get upset need "serious professional help", what type of person are you who laughs at them, people who you feel need "professional serious help"? them needing serious professional help is totally irrelevant, i always laugh at people i gank regardless of their mental health. Which is perfectly fine.
glad you agree that this whole thing is fine. |

Salvos Rhoska
1135
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:02:00 -
[166] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Get over yourself buddy, you aren't some genius burning me with your mad dissing skillz, you are a guy in front of a computer lobbing personal attacks at a stranger on the internet and chuckling to yourself.
Do they even like you? I mean seriously. Lets be real here. Your intellectual edge is like a bent butter knife.
What the hell do you even offer? Is your forum farting supposed to be somekind of service you provide?
Know what I think? I think you just ride around on their coat-tails, acting like a big shot with a big mouth. ------------ |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
165
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:03:00 -
[167] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:I do not. I'm empathic.
[citation needed]
LeeSsang. Never Forget. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
407
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:03:00 -
[168] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: and when people get as riled up about it as some of them do, they need serious professional help.
So if you honestly feel that these people who get upset need "serious professional help", what type of person are you who laughs at them, people who you feel need "professional serious help"? them needing serious professional help is totally irrelevant, i always laugh at people i gank regardless of their mental health. Which is perfectly fine. glad you agree that this whole thing is fine.
Except for those who are motivated to participate in "burn jita" for "tears". Those people are in need of a psychiatrist. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:06:00 -
[169] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:O no, because I've stated multiple times that playing the game for the sake of playing the game is perfectly legitimate. The only issue I've raised with you is your admittance to stating enjoyment at others suffering. I've never said to you 'blowing up space ships is bad". Granted it's understood by both of us that their reaction is "irrational" and indicates a need of "professional serious help", but on that same hand I state that if you're the type of person who laughs at those who you feel "need "professional serious help", you probably need some yourself. Define "suffering". If I saw a guy stabbed in the leg, laying in the street, I'm not going to just stand there and laugh. However if I see someone get shot in GTA or something, then flip out beyond belief screaming and shrieking, then you can be damn sure I'm going to find that funny. I most certainly would not describe it as "suffering" however. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Dave Stark
4978
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:06:00 -
[170] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Except for those who are motivated to participate in "burn jita" for "tears". Those people are in need of a psychiatrist.
heaven forbid people do something because it's fun!
you keep trying really hard to make some kind of link between enjoying yourself, and it being bad. it's just not going to happen, stop trying to make it happen. |
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
687
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:06:00 -
[171] - Quote
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:I do not. I'm empathic. [citation needed] ROFL "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:06:00 -
[172] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Get over yourself buddy, you aren't some genius burning me with your mad dissing skillz, you are a guy in front of a computer lobbing personal attacks at a stranger on the internet and chuckling to yourself. Do they even like you? I mean seriously. Lets be real here. Your intellectual edge is like a bent butter knife. What the hell do you even offer? Is your forum farting supposed to be somekind of service you provide? Know what I think? I think you just ride around on their coat-tails, acting like a big shot with a big mouth. No, everyone hates me and they ask me to leave all the time. It's crazy. And I'm like the dumbest person even I've ever met.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
687
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:08:00 -
[173] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Except for those who are motivated to participate in "burn jita" for "tears". Those people are in need of a psychiatrist. heaven forbid people do something because it's fun! you keep trying really hard to make some kind of link between enjoying yourself, and it being bad. it's just not going to happen, stop trying to make it happen. You are argueing with somebody who believes thag there is no necessity in stating that he is talking opinions and that people should instead take it for granted that everybody is doing so.
edit: I correct myself. Who believes there is no necessity in expressing ones self in a way that makes clear that he is expressing an opinion. Not the same as written above.
This guy is completely locked inside his ego.
Also, dave, I want to publicly mention that the picking between us is just show and that we actually don't hate each other. Before somebody might use that as argument for whatever ridiculousness his mind creates. "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
901
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:09:00 -
[174] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote: Except for those who are motivated to participate in "burn jita" for "tears". Those people are in need of a psychiatrist.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
408
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:09:00 -
[175] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:O no, because I've stated multiple times that playing the game for the sake of playing the game is perfectly legitimate. The only issue I've raised with you is your admittance to stating enjoyment at others suffering. I've never said to you 'blowing up space ships is bad". Granted it's understood by both of us that their reaction is "irrational" and indicates a need of "professional serious help", but on that same hand I state that if you're the type of person who laughs at those who you feel "need "professional serious help", you probably need some yourself. Define "suffering". If I saw a guy stabbed in the leg, laying in the street, I'm not going to just stand there and laugh. However if I see someone get shot in GTA or something, then flip out beyond belief screaming and shrieking, then you can be damn sure I'm going to find that funny. I most certainly would not describe it as "suffering" however.
Whatever I deem as suffering would be subjective to my own personal beliefs.
But you've already stated your personal believe surrounding someone getting upset over dying in a video game as needing "professional serious help". You also stated that their being upset, something you consider to be a need of "professional serious help", is something you find enjoyable.
You've made your statements. I'm not the one laughing at dudes who I feel need "professional serious help", you are. People that I feel need "professional serious help", I try to help them receive it.
http://www.zocdoc.com/psychiatrists Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2261
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:10:00 -
[176] - Quote
Dear Lucas, you need to come to terms with the fact that Ero is gone, then perhaps when you are less angry you can calm down a bit on posting the 'cos I'm hard innit' stuff.
Your friend in Eve J D This is not a signature. |

Dave Stark
4978
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:10:00 -
[177] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Except for those who are motivated to participate in "burn jita" for "tears". Those people are in need of a psychiatrist. heaven forbid people do something because it's fun! you keep trying really hard to make some kind of link between enjoying yourself, and it being bad. it's just not going to happen, stop trying to make it happen. You are argueing with somebody who believes thag there is no necessity in stating that he is talking opinions and that people should instead take it for granted that everybod is doing so. This guy is completely locked inside his ego. Also, dave, I want to publicly mention that the picking between us is just show and that we actually don't hate each other. Before somebody might use that as argument for whatever ridiculousness his mind creates.
indeed it is, but your face is still hideous. |

Salvos Rhoska
1136
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:13:00 -
[178] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:No, everyone hates me and they ask me to leave all the time. It's crazy. And I'm like the dumbest person even I've ever met.
I dont doubt that. You practically reek of desperation.
Lets be serious and honest here, eh?
You where never popular. Even the small circle of nobodies you thought of as friends considered you a whinger.Nobody actually can stand being near you for more than a few minutes because you awkwardness drives them insane. Not to mention when you open your mouth and start breathing your nonsense in an an obnoxious voice nobody can bear to listen to without furiously showing all five fingers in each ear.
So you come here, to the forums. And compensate. Thinking any of that matters. Thinking you are somekind of internet spaceship badass cos you are carried by some actual pilots who know what they are doing and have two braincells to rub together.
Well, it doesn't. Not. One. Bit. ------------ |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4799
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:13:00 -
[179] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:While on the contrary, regarding evidence, you yourself stated an enjoyment at watching others become and act upset. So, I mean whatever, if you say you're not, sure, I'll take it for face value, but be advised there is a contradiction surrounding your stance. And like I previously stated, if you want to take it that way, however misguided, you are welcome to. You opinion of me doesn't actually affect me you know, so while you feel the need to sit here on the internets insulting me and telling me how much of a horrible person I must be IRL, I'll happily continue on perfectly happy with my personal traits and mental stability. Funny how there's no judgement on what type of person you have to be to create a forum trolling alt and roam around the forum looking for opportunities to attack people though huh?  I'm not insulting you, I'm pointing out a contradiction in your argument. If you'll state that it's OK for you to suggest that one archetype of people need "professional serious help" because they get mad at video games, then it's also perfectly logical to arrive at the conclusion that the people who laugh at people who need "professional serious help", need some themselves. If you don't wish to portray yourself in a manner that depicts you as needing "professional serious help", then it would be wise to not express delight in watching the misery of people you feel need "professional serious help". but if you're fine with contradicting yourself, well whatever then, do what you wish man! Have a blast! Sing in the rain of the tears of your enemies! I hope you have an incredibly enjoyable weekend.
I do believe someone got zinged.
What was that line from The Hobbit, when the trolls captured the dwarves?
Quote: Dori: You can't reason with them, they're half-wits!
Bofur: Half-wits? What does that make us?
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
687
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:13:00 -
[180] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Except for those who are motivated to participate in "burn jita" for "tears". Those people are in need of a psychiatrist. heaven forbid people do something because it's fun! you keep trying really hard to make some kind of link between enjoying yourself, and it being bad. it's just not going to happen, stop trying to make it happen. You are argueing with somebody who believes thag there is no necessity in stating that he is talking opinions and that people should instead take it for granted that everybod is doing so. This guy is completely locked inside his ego. Also, dave, I want to publicly mention that the picking between us is just show and that we actually don't hate each other. Before somebody might use that as argument for whatever ridiculousness his mind creates. indeed it is, but your face is still hideous. You know what else is also hideous?
edit: i somehow lost the ability to properly type on my mobile. "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1663
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:14:00 -
[181] - Quote
I find it gloriously ironic that this thread has become, in a nutshell, why this event happens, and will continue to happen.
Yes, it has been a couple years since a good leader promised an event to his playerbase for grabbing 10k votes, securing him again in the CSM.

Oh? The carebears don't know the real origins of Burn Jita? Well, now, that makes so much sense, doesn't it.

Literally every single player should be excited for Burn Jita.
It creates more content than any other player-ran event in the game.
Market bros can rejoice!!!
Ganker bros can rejoice!!!
Meta bros can rejoice!!!
Even carebear bros can rejoice!!! Provided they come down off of the high moral ground.
The same high moral ground that suddenly melts away anytime they are space-violenced, and results in "OMFGIAMGONNAKILLYOUIRLYOUHORRIBLEEXTORTIONISTSOCIOPATHICPIECEOFSHITIRRATIONALSPERGE"
Yes, they can rejoice, provided that one little switch clicks in their brain, and they realize...
"Whoa...dude...I am playing a multiplayer video game about spaceship-on-spaceship violence. Wow....who knew? "
Ninja-looting.
Corpse collecting.
Podcatching for free. No sec status loss required. *gasps*
Ganks.
Market manipulation.
Hell....
I will give 250mil to first 5.0 carebear who flies a SB battleship into the midst of a flashy red mob of bees.
I will buy the sec tags+give 250mil for the first 5.0 carebear that smartbombs the undock, regardless of criminal flags.
Before and after screens required, ofc. 
And I support the "Goon" cause. That right there should be an indicator of what Burn Jita is, and will hopefully remain for years to come.
Fun. Plain and simple.
A lot of people in this thread could probably use some. It would cut down on the rage.
I, for one, tip my hat to the "Dear Glorious Socialist Dictator," sitting in smug contemplation atop his tower of Mittaningrad. 
Because when the "stratops ping" went out on TMC....it didn't go out for the "entire ******* CFC."
It went out for the "entire ******* EvE playerbase."
So have fun with it. It is "EvE Christmas." It only comes once a year. And it sure as hell beats crying, bellowing, sperging, and generally showing your ass.
Just saying.
   Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |

Dave Stark
4983
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:14:00 -
[182] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:You know what else iw also hideous? the rest of you?? |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4799
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:16:00 -
[183] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Taking my points to strawman levels as a means of trying to debunk them. I feel like I'm married again.
But you get legitimately glad, and from your rhetoric, enjoy it even more if they get buttmad, yet you say "they" should leave the game and "they need serious professional help".
Can you at least step back and ask yourself "What am I missing here?". Where did I say that people should leave the game because they are butthurt? I stated that you should stop playing a game, which is designed for enjoyment, if you don't enjoy the game. That is any game. The fact is EVE is a PVP game. If you don't enjoy PVP, why are you playing? CCP aren't going to suddenly roll over and turn the game into wow so people can shoot red crosses in complete safety, so going all the way back to what CCPs response is to that: HTFU.
You keep going back to that "turn the game into WoW" thing, when I never stated that goal.
You doth protest too much.
So in addition to your appalling sense of entitlement, you think you are also some high protector of "the sandbox". That would be a high calling, admittedly, but your going about it is all wrong; making assumptions and setting up strawmen.
I get a feeling that you are merely pretending to care about the game. I would suggest you take a break from it. Sometimes when you are too close to a concept you can't get a more generalized view of it. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
3072
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:17:00 -
[184] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:In all honesty, I can't see how there is anyway that you aren't laughed at by anyone you fly with. I bet they all cringe at your whiney voice and endless empty self-justification over voice comm. I mean seriously, AWOXing you would be worth it, just for the unbelievable butthurt and bleed it would result in here and everywhere as you run around like a headless chicken trying to make heads or tails of why nobody likes you. i like you lucas |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
687
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:17:00 -
[185] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:You know what else iw also hideous? the rest of you?? Damn, wrong response. -.- "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:18:00 -
[186] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dear Lucas, you need to come to terms with the fact that Ero is gone, then perhaps when you are less angry you can calm down a bit on posting the 'cos I'm hard innit' stuff.
Your friend in Eve J D lol, what has this got to do with Ero? This is about shooting people in highsec and whether or not CCP should step in and make it impossible to protect precious flowers. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Dave Stark
4983
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:18:00 -
[187] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:You know what else iw also hideous? the rest of you?? Damn, wrong response. -.- haha :D you try so hard sol. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
901
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:19:00 -
[188] - Quote
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:I will give 250mil to first 5.0 carebear who flies a SB battleship into the midst of a flashy red mob of bees. I will buy the sec tags+give 250mil for the first 5.0 carebear that smartbombs the undock, regardless of criminal flags. Before and after screens required, ofc.    
fraps Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á The Best Quote EVER Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4799
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:20:00 -
[189] - Quote
LOL
[quote=Lucas Kell]There's a difference. The game isn't made so people can get emotionally attached and upset when they lose their space pixels, and doing so is legitimately a sign of needed help as it shows some serious separation issues. [quote]
Yet you are acting just as you describe over your ability to make someone else lose space pixels and whether or not other players like it or would want to change the mechanics of it.
Please take a step back. I don't want you to feel like you are in a bonus room. (of course nobody is making you stay in this thread) Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Desivo Delta Visseroff
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
209
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:20:00 -
[190] - Quote
HEY guys \o/
Down hear v v v v v v v
Anyone remember what this thread about again   |
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
687
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:20:00 -
[191] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:You know what else iw also hideous? the rest of you?? Damn, wrong response. -.- haha :D you try so hard sol. Just a few days I caught somebody.
Hmpf.
:) "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1663
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:22:00 -
[192] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:I will give 250mil to first 5.0 carebear who flies a SB battleship into the midst of a flashy red mob of bees. I will buy the sec tags+give 250mil for the first 5.0 carebear that smartbombs the undock, regardless of criminal flags. Before and after screens required, ofc.      fraps
Even better, lol.
And it has to be a legit, primary profession carebear.
No cheats or hax. 
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |

Dave Stark
4983
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:23:00 -
[193] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project wrote:You know what else iw also hideous? the rest of you?? Damn, wrong response. -.- haha :D you try so hard sol. Just a few days I caught somebody. Hmpf. :)
hope you got tested afterwards. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:23:00 -
[194] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:No, everyone hates me and they ask me to leave all the time. It's crazy. And I'm like the dumbest person even I've ever met. I dont doubt that. You practically reek of desperation. Lets be serious and honest here, eh? You where never popular. Even the small circle of nobodies you thought of as friends considered you a whinger.Nobody actually can stand being near you for more than a few minutes because you awkwardness drives them insane. Not to mention when you open your mouth and start breathing your nonsense in an an obnoxious voice nobody can bear to listen to without furiously showing all five fingers in each ear. So you come here, to the forums. And compensate. Thinking any of that matters. Thinking you are somekind of internet spaceship badass cos you are carried by some actual pilots who know what they are doing and have two braincells to rub together. Well, it doesn't. Not. One. Bit. *sob* It's all true! I'm desperate for acceptance! I have no friends as they all really hate me, and nodoby like being around me. Everything I say is just stupid nonsense. These forums help me cry my tears of sadness and feel special, but it's taken you oh mighty Salvos to bring me to my senses, to help me realise how truly hated I am.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Dave Stark
4983
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:23:00 -
[195] - Quote
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:I will give 250mil to first 5.0 carebear who flies a SB battleship into the midst of a flashy red mob of bees. I will buy the sec tags+give 250mil for the first 5.0 carebear that smartbombs the undock, regardless of criminal flags. Before and after screens required, ofc.      fraps Even better, lol. And it has to be a legit, primary profession carebear. No cheats or hax. 
so i guess i'm excluded then :(
what am i going to do with this 5.0 sec status? |

Salvos Rhoska
1139
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:27:00 -
[196] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:It's all true! I'm desperate for acceptance! I have no friends as they all really hate me, and nodoby like being around me. Everything I say is just stupid nonsense. These forums help me cry my tears of sadness and feel special, but it's taken you oh mighty Salvos to bring me to my senses, to help me realise how truly hated I am.
Yes. You know it. They know it. I know it.
And your whinging self-ironic and self-deprecating sarcasm above just proves it even further.
No wonder you refused my voice comm challenge. Just as I figured you to be. So transparent.
I mean look at your sad blog. Is that how you got yourself recruited? Do you not realise btw that Ripard's Blog is listed blatantly bright and clear and first on your sidebar? HAHAHAHAHAHA
PS: You might want to get back to work on your bloggyblogs little one. In case you lose your usefulness and end out on your own (in which case you would quit the game. I am certain of it). ------------ |

KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1664
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:28:00 -
[197] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:I will give 250mil to first 5.0 carebear who flies a SB battleship into the midst of a flashy red mob of bees. I will buy the sec tags+give 250mil for the first 5.0 carebear that smartbombs the undock, regardless of criminal flags. Before and after screens required, ofc.      fraps Even better, lol. And it has to be a legit, primary profession carebear. No cheats or hax.  so i guess i'm excluded then :( what am i going to do with this 5.0 sec status?
No Miner Dave, you are not included.
We belong the same "sociopathic" community, remember?
Ugh. Gosh.
  
*edit
Misread that one, lol.
I logged onto the forums, saw this thread....
And the sperge had some unexpected side effects...
Give me a few moments to put myself back together. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |

Dave Stark
4983
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:29:00 -
[198] - Quote
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:No Miner Dave, you are not included. We belong the same "sociopathic" community, remember? Ugh. Gosh.   
shhhh don't tell them all my secrets! |

Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
3073
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:29:00 -
[199] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:No, everyone hates me and they ask me to leave all the time. It's crazy. And I'm like the dumbest person even I've ever met. I dont doubt that. You practically reek of desperation. Lets be serious and honest here, eh? You where never popular. Even the small circle of nobodies you thought of as friends considered you a whinger.Nobody actually can stand being near you for more than a few minutes because you awkwardness drives them insane. Not to mention when you open your mouth and start breathing your nonsense in an an obnoxious voice nobody can bear to listen to without furiously showing all five fingers in each ear. So you come here, to the forums. And compensate. Thinking any of that matters. Thinking you are somekind of internet spaceship badass cos you are carried by some actual pilots who know what they are doing and have two braincells to rub together. Well, it doesn't. Not. One. Bit. *sob* It's all true! I'm desperate for acceptance! I have no friends as they all really hate me, and nodoby like being around me. Everything I say is just stupid nonsense. These forums help me cry my tears of sadness and feel special, but it's taken you oh mighty Salvos to bring me to my senses, to help me realise how truly hated I am. i don't understand. is salvos the cyberbully now |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4799
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:31:00 -
[200] - Quote
KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Even carebear bros can rejoice!!! Provided they come down off of the high moral ground.
I think the fuel of this thread has been the moral high ground taken by those who want to do the ganking. My point has been that if one player has a sense of moral superiority, why do they think they are entitled to rail against another with the same "problem"?
The double standard is also shown in the opinions around the topic of tears and enjoyment. If someone wants to gank a ship, and derive great enjoyment from the tears that action could garner, but then rails against and suggest leaving the game for those who get butthurt over it to the point of suggesting that these people need professional help, what does that make them? For they have gotten equally emotional over the matter, and invested just as much energy. If the buttmad carebear is in need of help, then what of the ganker who went out of their way to do it (and create an event over it) who basks in any tears as a result of it? Is that supposed to be normal then?
If someone can be driven to buttmad in a video game, and then claimed to be lacking stability and the ability to separate their emotions from the game, what then is to be said about the person who went out of their way to get that result and laughs at them?
Double standard is double.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
687
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:31:00 -
[201] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:It's all true! I'm desperate for acceptance! I have no friends as they all really hate me, and nodoby like being around me. Everything I say is just stupid nonsense. These forums help me cry my tears of sadness and feel special, but it's taken you oh mighty Salvos to bring me to my senses, to help me realise how truly hated I am. Yes. You know it. They know it. I know it. And your whinging self-ironic and self-deprecating sarcasm above just proves it even further. No wonder you refused my voice comm challenge. Just as I figured you to be. So transparent. Not trying to defend him, but there are a lot people who refuse it in general.
Like me. And deaf people. And a few others I have met.
But the vast majority has no issue with it.
Just like a vast majority of people seems to not have issues with putting up youtube videos of themselves. Majority? Yes. It's so many. Incredible. "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:31:00 -
[202] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:No, everyone hates me and they ask me to leave all the time. It's crazy. And I'm like the dumbest person even I've ever met. I dont doubt that. You practically reek of desperation. Lets be serious and honest here, eh? You where never popular. Even the small circle of nobodies you thought of as friends considered you a whinger.Nobody actually can stand being near you for more than a few minutes because you awkwardness drives them insane. Not to mention when you open your mouth and start breathing your nonsense in an an obnoxious voice nobody can bear to listen to without furiously showing all five fingers in each ear. So you come here, to the forums. And compensate. Thinking any of that matters. Thinking you are somekind of internet spaceship badass cos you are carried by some actual pilots who know what they are doing and have two braincells to rub together. Well, it doesn't. Not. One. Bit. *sob* It's all true! I'm desperate for acceptance! I have no friends as they all really hate me, and nodoby like being around me. Everything I say is just stupid nonsense. These forums help me cry my tears of sadness and feel special, but it's taken you oh mighty Salvos to bring me to my senses, to help me realise how truly hated I am. i don't understand. is salvos the cyberbully now It seems so. I figure maybe if he feels he's winning he might stop following me around the forums attacking me. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Dave Stark
4983
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:34:00 -
[203] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:what then is to be said about the person who went out of their way to get that result and laughs at them?
Double standard is double.
they didn't go out of their way though; they were simply playing the game.
the standard isn't double because you're talking about a scenario that doesn't exist. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
687
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:35:00 -
[204] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:No, everyone hates me and they ask me to leave all the time. It's crazy. And I'm like the dumbest person even I've ever met. I dont doubt that. You practically reek of desperation. Lets be serious and honest here, eh? You where never popular. Even the small circle of nobodies you thought of as friends considered you a whinger.Nobody actually can stand being near you for more than a few minutes because you awkwardness drives them insane. Not to mention when you open your mouth and start breathing your nonsense in an an obnoxious voice nobody can bear to listen to without furiously showing all five fingers in each ear. So you come here, to the forums. And compensate. Thinking any of that matters. Thinking you are somekind of internet spaceship badass cos you are carried by some actual pilots who know what they are doing and have two braincells to rub together. Well, it doesn't. Not. One. Bit. *sob* It's all true! I'm desperate for acceptance! I have no friends as they all really hate me, and nodoby like being around me. Everything I say is just stupid nonsense. These forums help me cry my tears of sadness and feel special, but it's taken you oh mighty Salvos to bring me to my senses, to help me realise how truly hated I am. i don't understand. is salvos the cyberbully now It seems so. I figure maybe if he feels he's winning he might stop following me around the forums attacking me. lol Infinity Ziona alt spotted.
.... sorry, had to. xD "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Miichael Epic
The Neutral Zone
14
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:35:00 -
[205] - Quote
Lucas Kell
Before I get started lecturing you about how wrong you are, I would just like to wish you a good day and hope everything is going your way today.
Quote: I'd like to point you to a video. Here. This is directly CCP (the developers of EVE if you didn't realise), stating quite clearly HTFU. It's part of the game. This is just the way the game is played. You can cry and you can whine, but at the end of the day it will do no good, and you do in fact need to HTFU. Once you realise that losses can be avoided and those that can't can be taken on the chin and aren't a reason to explode into a fit of rage, you'll be well on your way to winning at EVE.
The mistakes you make are taking what the developers of the game say as if the heavens opened up and these divine words were handed down from a benevolent God. This game is a social situation, regardless if CCP made it or I made it or it did in fact float down from the heavens. They developers are still players, just as us men have penile orifices hanging off our bodies and we still feel the need to play with them. Therefore my point of "HTFU" still applies at the sociopathic level. The developers are sociopaths. Plain and simple.
The mistake you make is you have totally forgotten about life. Yourself, most of the player base AND the developers who's words are so precious to you have all forgotten about social etiquette. Etiquette is the code of behavior that dictates the "should be" for social behavior within a society, social class, or group. Welcome to real life. Its harsh, I know. Get used to it.
Quote:Too bad, it's a PVP game, so PVP happens. Whether you think there's a reason or not is your problem.
This is true but also false. Yes, this game is PLAYER vs PLAYER. You vs Me. However...exists within this game 50 different ways to attack a player besides "Spaceship with rocket launchers." This game, in a mimic of real life has social, economical and financial margains in which to attack. However...what do you see? People shooting miners (who have no weapons to fight back) and that's pretty much the biggest wuss move that you can possibly make. Relate it to your life of someone blowing your head off in the grocery store line because they don't like the brand of paper towels you're buying. Case and point.
Quote:Erm, no. It's a time to blow off some steam and have a laugh with a bunch of people you share a common interest with. Is it done at the expense of a group of people who's activities we don't particularly like? Sure it is, but again, that's the game, that's how it works. We certainly don't sit around beaming all evening saying "look what we dun did", but if that's the way you need to portray us to get through your day, go right ahead.
You and others need to look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself why doing things inherently pointless and childish is how you "blow off some steam". That's f!_!cked up dude. I would never..and let me ephasize this for you NEVER EVER attack a hauler, a miner, an industrial ship, a mobile depot or anything that couldn't fight back UNLESS it was a time of war. In which case you have to cut the enemy's supply and support lines off...war of attrition.
You know why? Because I'm not effed up in the head. This goes back to my original point of the powerless needing the feel power in a video game and its a point you basically just reiterated to me except disguised in a context that makes you feel like you're "setting me straight" on the facts. Basically at this point you lose all arguing credibility.
Quote: Just FYI, I do what I love for a living. And outside of that I enjoy playing video games, as I suspect do you. It certainly sounds like you don't enjoy EVE though, so perhaps that's something you should look at. It's most certainly not a reason that the rest of us should just stop playing so you can grind isk for all eternity.
I enjoy EVE just fine. I have great friends here and we have a merry time. I don't enjoy pussies, wusses, wimps, hotheads, babies, douchebags and anything I left out. I don't believe that one should be a douche in a video game because they are not more successful in their own lives. Your life is what you make it...you want more? Get an education. Go get two jobs to pay for it. Work for what you want out of life.
Don't come home after flipping burgers (not saying you flip burgers) and take out your frustrations GATE CAMPING and attacking ships that can't fight back like little b!tches. That's a wuss move man...it makes you look like a huge *****. |

KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1664
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:35:00 -
[206] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Even carebear bros can rejoice!!! Provided they come down off of the high moral ground.
I think the fuel of this thread has been the moral high ground taken by those who want to do the ganking. My point has been that if one player has a sense of moral superiority, why do they think they are entitled to rail against another with the same "problem"? The double standard is also shown in the opinions around the topic of tears and enjoyment. If someone wants to gank a ship, and derive great enjoyment from the tears that action could garner, but then rails against and suggest leaving the game for those who get butthurt over it to the point of suggesting that these people need professional help, what does that make them? For they have gotten equally emotional over the matter, and invested just as much energy. If the buttmad carebear is in need of help, then what of the ganker who went out of their way to do it (and create an event over it) who basks in any tears as a result of it? Is that supposed to be normal then? If someone can be driven to buttmad in a video game, and then claimed to be lacking stability and the ability to separate their emotions from the game, what then is to be said about the person who went out of their way to get that result and laughs at them? Double standard is double.
See, and that is the thing.....
No matter what....
Tears should be on the bottom of the list for everyone involved.
As there is literally soooooooooo much other crap for people to do this weekend.
Both sides of the aisle need to chill the **** out, tbh.
And honestly, that is what my wall of text was meant to point out.
That it is....above all else....supposed to fun.
Nothing more.
 Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |

Salvos Rhoska
1139
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:36:00 -
[207] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:It seems so. I figure maybe if he feels he's winning he might stop following me around the forums attacking me.
HEY, POTATOHEAD!
You attacked me, not the other way around.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4501316#post4501316
Are you really so stupid you can't remember or recognise your own actions?
How many times is this now that I show you for a fool by posting your own words back to you?
I'm losing count. We are somewhere around 5 times, and each one alone was big enough of a FUBAR that any sensible person would have understood to leave well enough alone, but not you. Keep acting like an idiot, Lucas. I already know you are, as does everyone else. ------------ |

Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
3073
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:39:00 -
[208] - Quote
Miichael Epic wrote:They developers are still players, just as us men have penile orifices hanging off our bodies and we still feel the need to play with them. Therefore my point of "HTFU" still applies at the sociopathic level.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
688
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:42:00 -
[209] - Quote
I guess this is a good moment to ask people to support ...
Killmails for Wrecks!!!
Griefer tears are the best tears!
Support the cause!
"My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4801
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:04:00 -
[210] - Quote
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Even carebear bros can rejoice!!! Provided they come down off of the high moral ground.
I think the fuel of this thread has been the moral high ground taken by those who want to do the ganking. My point has been that if one player has a sense of moral superiority, why do they think they are entitled to rail against another with the same "problem"? The double standard is also shown in the opinions around the topic of tears and enjoyment. If someone wants to gank a ship, and derive great enjoyment from the tears that action could garner, but then rails against and suggest leaving the game for those who get butthurt over it to the point of suggesting that these people need professional help, what does that make them? For they have gotten equally emotional over the matter, and invested just as much energy. If the buttmad carebear is in need of help, then what of the ganker who went out of their way to do it (and create an event over it) who basks in any tears as a result of it? Is that supposed to be normal then? If someone can be driven to buttmad in a video game, and then claimed to be lacking stability and the ability to separate their emotions from the game, what then is to be said about the person who went out of their way to get that result and laughs at them? Double standard is double. See, and that is the thing..... No matter what.... Tears should be on the bottom of the list for everyone involved. As there is literally soooooooooo much other crap for people to do this weekend. Both sides of the aisle need to chill the **** out, tbh. And honestly, that is what my wall of text was meant to point out. That it is....above all else....supposed to fun. Nothing more. 
Is this the first Burn Jita since crimewatch was implemented? My bittervet memory is failing me. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
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Higgs Foton
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:07:00 -
[211] - Quote
Oh my, Burn Jita hasn't even started and we already have a river of tears! Imagine the sea of tears when the 25th comes! :)
I moved one of my alts there and am thinking of moving one more. I am really looking forward to my first Burn Jita. Its gonna be fun.
And for the people who don't like this operation: Go here----> WOW. I think a game where you can do terrible things like Burn Jita is the game worth playing for me. :)
And for the people who ask: "why do you do this?"
there is one simple answer:
"Because we can"

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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:07:00 -
[212] - Quote
Miichael Epic wrote:The mistakes you make are taking what the developers of the game say as if the heavens opened up and these divine words were handed down from a benevolent God. This game is a social situation, regardless if CCP made it or I made it or it did in fact float down from the heavens. They developers are still players, just as us men have penile orifices hanging off our bodies and we still feel the need to play with them. Therefore my point of "HTFU" still applies at the sociopathic level. The developers are sociopaths. Plain and simple.
The mistake you make is you have totally forgotten about life. Yourself, most of the player base AND the developers who's words are so precious to you have all forgotten about social etiquette. Etiquette is the code of behavior that dictates the "should be" for social behavior within a society, social class, or group. Welcome to real life. Its harsh, I know. Get used to it. Lol, so in your mind, the devs are sociopaths too, and you play a game developed by sociopaths and expect the gameplay to not be sociopathic? I'd also like to ask why you feel it's fine to state: "Welcome to real life. Its harsh, I know. Get used to it.", while if I were to write: "Welcome to EVE. Its harsh, I know. Get used to it.", then you'd call me a sociopath...
Miichael Epic wrote:This is true but also false. Yes, this game is PLAYER vs PLAYER. You vs Me. However...exists within this game 50 different ways to attack a player besides "Spaceship with rocket launchers." This game, in a mimic of real life has social, economical and financial margains in which to attack. However...what do you see? People shooting miners (who have no weapons to fight back) and that's pretty much the biggest wuss move that you can possibly make. Relate it to your life of someone blowing your head off in the grocery store line because they don't like the brand of paper towels you're buying. Case and point. True to some extent, but above and beyond those 50 ways to play is the underlying principle that when unndocked there is no such thing as perfect safety. There's always a way for someone to attack you with guns. If you don't want someone to be able to attack you with guns, don't undock. If you however want to undock, then Welcome to EVE. Its harsh, I know. Get used to it
Miichael Epic wrote:You and others need to look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself why doing things inherently pointless and childish is how you "blow off some steam". That's f!_!cked up dude. I would never..and let me ephasize this for you NEVER EVER attack a hauler, a miner, an industrial ship, a mobile depot or anything that couldn't fight back UNLESS it was a time of war. In which case you have to cut the enemy's supply and support lines off...war of attrition.
You know why? Because I'm not effed up in the head. This goes back to my original point of the powerless needing the feel power in a video game and its a point you basically just reiterated to me except disguised in a context that makes you feel like you're "setting me straight" on the facts. Basically at this point you lose all arguing credibility. It's only inherently pointless to you. We want to play a game to enjoy ourselves, and the game happens to involve shooting internet spaceships, which we do. You would never ever attack a hauler, good for you. It doesn't make me "effed up in the head" because I would though. That's the game mate. Spaceships explode. You need to seriously consider if this is the right game fore you if you honestly think certain ships should just be exempt from all forms of combat.
Miichael Epic wrote:I enjoy EVE just fine. I have great friends here and we have a merry time. I don't enjoy pussies, wusses, wimps, hotheads, babies, douchebags and anything I left out. I don't believe that one should be a douche in a video game because they are not more successful in their own lives. Your life is what you make it...you want more? Get an education. Go get two jobs to pay for it. Work for what you want out of life.
Don't come home after flipping burgers (not saying you flip burgers) and take out your frustrations GATE CAMPING and attacking ships that can't fight back like little b!tches. That's a wuss move man...it makes you look like a huge *****. It's not being a douche to shoot other spaceships, regardless of what type of spaceship it is. That's the way the game is played, and if that's too much for you that's your problem. So get used to the fact that spaceships will have violence inflicted upon them no matter what type of ship they are, or continue to kick and scream every time you lose a ship while nothing changes, or just quit playing. I'll continue to play as I do, safe in the knowledge that I'm not some demonic monster for wanting to blow stuff up. And I'm certainly not doing it because "flipping burgers" is frustrating. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1665
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:08:00 -
[213] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Even carebear bros can rejoice!!! Provided they come down off of the high moral ground.
I think the fuel of this thread has been the moral high ground taken by those who want to do the ganking. My point has been that if one player has a sense of moral superiority, why do they think they are entitled to rail against another with the same "problem"? The double standard is also shown in the opinions around the topic of tears and enjoyment. If someone wants to gank a ship, and derive great enjoyment from the tears that action could garner, but then rails against and suggest leaving the game for those who get butthurt over it to the point of suggesting that these people need professional help, what does that make them? For they have gotten equally emotional over the matter, and invested just as much energy. If the buttmad carebear is in need of help, then what of the ganker who went out of their way to do it (and create an event over it) who basks in any tears as a result of it? Is that supposed to be normal then? If someone can be driven to buttmad in a video game, and then claimed to be lacking stability and the ability to separate their emotions from the game, what then is to be said about the person who went out of their way to get that result and laughs at them? Double standard is double. See, and that is the thing..... No matter what.... Tears should be on the bottom of the list for everyone involved. As there is literally soooooooooo much other crap for people to do this weekend. Both sides of the aisle need to chill the **** out, tbh. And honestly, that is what my wall of text was meant to point out. That it is....above all else....supposed to fun. Nothing more.  Is this the first Burn Jita since crimewatch was implemented? My bittervet memory is failing me.
Retribution is when CW 2.0 was released. Whenever that was........my bitter makes me not log into the client, so I am in the same boat, lol. vOv
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4801
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:09:00 -
[214] - Quote
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Even carebear bros can rejoice!!! Provided they come down off of the high moral ground.
I think the fuel of this thread has been the moral high ground taken by those who want to do the ganking. My point has been that if one player has a sense of moral superiority, why do they think they are entitled to rail against another with the same "problem"? The double standard is also shown in the opinions around the topic of tears and enjoyment. If someone wants to gank a ship, and derive great enjoyment from the tears that action could garner, but then rails against and suggest leaving the game for those who get butthurt over it to the point of suggesting that these people need professional help, what does that make them? For they have gotten equally emotional over the matter, and invested just as much energy. If the buttmad carebear is in need of help, then what of the ganker who went out of their way to do it (and create an event over it) who basks in any tears as a result of it? Is that supposed to be normal then? If someone can be driven to buttmad in a video game, and then claimed to be lacking stability and the ability to separate their emotions from the game, what then is to be said about the person who went out of their way to get that result and laughs at them? Double standard is double. See, and that is the thing..... No matter what.... Tears should be on the bottom of the list for everyone involved. As there is literally soooooooooo much other crap for people to do this weekend. Both sides of the aisle need to chill the **** out, tbh. And honestly, that is what my wall of text was meant to point out. That it is....above all else....supposed to fun. Nothing more.  Is this the first Burn Jita since crimewatch was implemented? My bittervet memory is failing me. Retribution is when CW 2.0 was released. Whenever that was........my bitter makes me not log into the client, so I am in the same boat, lol. vOv
Yeah we bittervets just grimace at everything and say "I don't even..." and do not really read the whole devblog. 
(in 3' of snow) Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:11:00 -
[215] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:It seems so. I figure maybe if he feels he's winning he might stop following me around the forums attacking me. HEY, POTATOHEAD!You attacked me, not the other way around.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4501316#post4501316Are you really so stupid you can't remember or recognise your own actions? Furthermore you had the lying audacity to claim I'm defending the poor carebears, whereas infact this entire thread I've been celebrating the fall of Jita. ARE YOU EVEN READING? How many times is this now that I show you for a fool by posting your own words back to you? I'm losing count. We are somewhere around 5 times, and each one alone was big enough of a FUBAR that any sensible person would have understood to leave well enough alone, but not you. Keep acting like an idiot, Lucas. I already know you are, as does everyone else. How is that an attack? I agreed with another poster that you make statements without evidence, I then stated that there are people in all sections of space that would recruit you, which there is. I also stated that if you can't find a way out of highsec then you aren't looking, which is a fair observation given that you could be in a corp outside of highsec in about 10 minutes if you wanted to. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1184

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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:13:00 -
[216] - Quote
Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
616
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Posted - 2014.04.22 23:06:00 -
[217] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:Meh, its been years since Ive been anywhere near Jita anyway.
Yesterday clone jumped to Jita for the first time in months to make some rattlers out of some Rattlesnake BPC I invested in when they were selling for like 4 for a billion ISK a few months back. I do not trust CCP to leave the mats the same in the summer rebalance.
But yeah, otherwise have no real reason to go anywhere near Jita and certainly have not undocked from Jita 4 in forever.
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
282
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Posted - 2014.04.22 23:15:00 -
[218] - Quote
So where is the streaming link? Twitch I guess? "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
757
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Posted - 2014.04.22 23:17:00 -
[219] - Quote
yay unlocked And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Nakami Saans
Perkone Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2014.04.22 23:18:00 -
[220] - Quote
I may just get into my cloaky, grab some popcorn, a beer, and enjoy the show |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18099
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:23:00 -
[221] - Quote
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Hell.... I will give 250mil to first 5.0 carebear who flies a SB battleship into the midst of a flashy red mob of bees. I will buy the sec tags+give 250mil for the first 5.0 carebear that smartbombs the undock, regardless of criminal flags. Before and after screens required, ofc.  I'll add another 100 million to both prizes for Fraps of the events 
API verified kills only.
Never go full Ripard |

KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1673
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:55:00 -
[222] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Hell.... I will give 250mil to first 5.0 carebear who flies a SB battleship into the midst of a flashy red mob of bees. I will buy the sec tags+give 250mil for the first 5.0 carebear that smartbombs the undock, regardless of criminal flags. Before and after screens required, ofc.  I'll add another 100 million to both prizes for Fraps of the events  API verified kills only + existing conditions. Prizewinners as decided by KnowUsByTheDead
And the fraps has to go up on Youtube with the opening of Also Sprach Zarathustra, Op. 30 as the background music...
Y'know, because I like comedy.
So the prizewinners have to.....
1. Provide before and after screens of your 5.0 status.
2. Provide proof that you are primarily a carebear as your profession. So that means full account API's for all acct's that you may have.
3. API verified battle-reports of the SB battleship attack and the loss of your carebearism.
4. Frapsed video with the above conditions outlined posted to YT and labeled "1 KnowUsByTheDead 13:11"
5. The video must contain the following subtitled text, as the transformation happens during the video: "When I was a carebear, I spake as a carebear, I understood as a carebear, I thought as a carebear: but when I became a PvPer, I put aside carebearish ways."
All of these conditions must be met to qualify for prizes.
*Note: Ships are provided by the entrants to the contest. Not my responsibility.
   Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |

Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
173
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:16:00 -
[223] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:I applaud this content.
Well done. Burn the fk out of it.
Something that I agree with Salvos on? *Shudders the thought* Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |

Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
980
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:53:00 -
[224] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Really, really looking forward to putting the Goons to work making me ISK.
If they have fun doing it, even better.
" In the last few minutes of the film, we see Tim walking across the tidal flats with two red fox following close behind. Pretty neat, and I have to admit I too have had similar experiences. Anyone that spends as much time in the field as Tim and I have, will no doubt have had similar experiences."
"I remember once out at my bear viewing area sitting alone one day, and feeling a bit sleepy in the warm sun I decided to lay back and close my eyes for a moment, when I remember feeling that something was watching me. I slowly raised up and looked around, only to discover that a family of 6 coyotes had moved in behind me, the adult alpha's sitting within feet of me while the pups played nearby."
" After a few minutes, I decided to get up and walk across the meadow, only to have the whole family follow along beside me.
The only difference between Tim and I is, Tim felt that the fox were kindred spirits, whereas I knew that the coyotes were looking at me as they would any other large carnivore in the wild, and that hopefully I would lead them to food much as a bear or wolf would do." |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
757
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Posted - 2014.04.23 12:08:00 -
[225] - Quote
lol thread must be dying down, past couple times Ive looked at the forums I had a couple hundred replies, I looked today an had two
Quote:Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Or being insane, then you can laugh at whatever you want and noone pays attention... much to their detriment And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
726
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Posted - 2014.04.23 12:46:00 -
[226] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Hell.... I will give 250mil to first 5.0 carebear who flies a SB battleship into the midst of a flashy red mob of bees. I will buy the sec tags+give 250mil for the first 5.0 carebear that smartbombs the undock, regardless of criminal flags. Before and after screens required, ofc.  I'll add another 100 million to both prizes for Fraps of the events  API verified kills only + existing conditions. Prizewinners as decided by KnowUsByTheDead Not possible.
Jita 4-4 has a huge bubble and one can't active smartbombs within their range towards a station or gate. No idea if that sentence makes sense.
You can cheat though, using a big hull, because smartbombs start from the hull.
Doesn't give you that much in highsec though. The biggest battleship has around 1500m on its longest axis.
"My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1678
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Posted - 2014.04.23 12:49:00 -
[227] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Hell.... I will give 250mil to first 5.0 carebear who flies a SB battleship into the midst of a flashy red mob of bees. I will buy the sec tags+give 250mil for the first 5.0 carebear that smartbombs the undock, regardless of criminal flags. Before and after screens required, ofc.  I'll add another 100 million to both prizes for Fraps of the events  API verified kills only + existing conditions. Prizewinners as decided by KnowUsByTheDead Not possible. Jita 4-4 has a huge bubble and one can't active smartbombs within their range towards a station or gate. No idea if that sentence makes sense. You can cheat though, using a big hull, because smartbombs start from the hull. Doesn't give you that much in highsec though. The biggest battleship has around 1500m on its longest axis.
Did you somehow think I was being serious, Sol?
C'mon, look at the next post down, and tell me again how serious of a post it was....
Lol.
  
*edit
Exactly how big is the bubble around 4-4, I wonder?
Time for science. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |

Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
65
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Posted - 2014.04.23 12:51:00 -
[228] - Quote
Why oh Why can't we use bombs in highsec? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
726
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Posted - 2014.04.23 12:52:00 -
[229] - Quote
Undocking range in the front is around 30km... "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1679
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Posted - 2014.04.23 12:58:00 -
[230] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Undocking range in the front is around 30km...
So flying into a mob of flashy bees is entirely possible.
Just have to watch for Nado warp-in spots, and be ready when they land.
I'll also give 1b to the person that ejects an Orca full of shuttles....
Oh wait.
  Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1280
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Posted - 2014.04.23 13:35:00 -
[231] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:
Also, what emergent, unorthodox content have you ever presented?
no more and no less than you have done.
You also seem to be missing my point, such a surprise.
Burn Jita is no different to Hulkageddon. It's been done, it's old news.
I suggested "Burn New Eden" and you declined. In internet speak that is "burn ALL the things" just so your clear as to what I meant. but no, you don't want to do that
because someone might fight back ?? why is that a bad thing ? does someone fighting back frighten you ? surely a 'carebear' fighting back should be viewed as a good thing, a sign that they may be ready to leave carebearish ways behind ? |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
285
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Posted - 2014.04.23 13:42:00 -
[232] - Quote
As this is eve I predict CCP will want to do epic troll and as soon as the team will start burning jita a Jovian fleet will arrive shooting everyone in 3 jumps radius around jita and occupying it for 24 hours. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
314
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:00:00 -
[233] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:FYI, the real action will be on the gates.
Traffic control + Burn Jita = Hilarity.
fish, meet barrel.
Barrel, meet dynamite. As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
757
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Posted - 2014.04.23 18:18:00 -
[234] - Quote
Kitty Bear wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
Also, what emergent, unorthodox content have you ever presented?
no more and no less than you have done. You also seem to be missing my point, such a surprise. Burn Jita is no different to Hulkageddon. It's been done, it's old news. I suggested "Burn New Eden" and you declined. In internet speak that is "burn ALL the things" just so your clear as to what I meant. but no, you don't want to do that because someone might fight back ?? why is that a bad thing ? does someone fighting back frighten you ? surely a 'carebear' fighting back should be viewed as a good thing, a sign that they may be ready to leave carebearish ways behind ?
It would be absolutely hilarious if all of null decided to NAP for a weekend and to invade high sec and burn high sec entirely.
And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
772
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Posted - 2014.04.23 18:23:00 -
[235] - Quote
Kitty Bear wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
Also, what emergent, unorthodox content have you ever presented?
no more and no less than you have done. You also seem to be missing my point, such a surprise. Burn Jita is no different to Hulkageddon. It's been done, it's old news. I suggested "Burn New Eden" and you declined. In internet speak that is "burn ALL the things" just so your clear as to what I meant. but no, you don't want to do that because someone might fight back ?? why is that a bad thing ? does someone fighting back frighten you ? surely a 'carebear' fighting back should be viewed as a good thing, a sign that they may be ready to leave carebearish ways behind ? I think there's a misunderstanding.
I have no issue with people killing people and other people killing those people who killed people.
Hell.. KILL ALL THE THINGS, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN!
I hope we're clear now.
Let's hug! Ignore the knife! :D "My Favourite Nerdling GÖÑ" - Marsha Mellow
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
427
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Posted - 2014.04.23 18:25:00 -
[236] - Quote
I'm glad Burn Jita has a date. I would be sad for Burn Jita if he had to go to the dance alone.
Who is his date? Is he going with Kakakela? Or Radima? Maybe Chibi? I think BurnJita and Fredagod would make a cute couple. Their combined power level would be unscoutable. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Marsha Mallow
340
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Posted - 2014.04.23 19:06:00 -
[237] - Quote
A reliable source says Burn Jita Cancelled Due to Budget Cuts
Shall we just do it ourselves?
Actually I just worked out I have enough alts to put my own fleet up. BS is rly quick to train now, dont need any of them to have positive sec anyway. Is this an acceptable use for ISBoxer or no? Although last time I did a smartie BS fleet we killed each other >.> I was the only one who found it funny. - |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
773
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Posted - 2014.04.23 19:13:00 -
[238] - Quote
Marsha Mallow wrote:A reliable source says Burn Jita Cancelled Due to Budget Cuts Shall we just do it ourselves? Actually I just worked out I have enough alts to put my own fleet up. BS is rly quick to train now, dont need any of them to have positive sec anyway. Is this an acceptable use for ISBoxer or no? Although last time I did a smartie BS fleet we killed each other >.> I was the only one who found it funny. I fixed it. ################################
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
773
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Posted - 2014.04.23 19:15:00 -
[239] - Quote
Marsha Mallow wrote:A reliable source says Burn Jita Cancelled Due to Budget Cuts Shall we just do it ourselves? Actually I just worked out I have enough alts to put my own fleet up. BS is rly quick to train now, dont need any of them to have positive sec anyway. Is this an acceptable use for ISBoxer or no? Although last time I did a smartie BS fleet we killed each other >.> I was the only one who found it funny. You won't be able to light a single smartbomb close enough to do anything.
If you can ISBOX a disco fleet, why not disco RvB?
That at least would make a great storyline! ################################
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Liam Inkuras
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
943
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Posted - 2014.04.23 19:19:00 -
[240] - Quote
Marsha Mallow wrote:A reliable source says Burn Jita Cancelled Due to Budget Cuts Shall we just do it ourselves? Actually I just worked out I have enough alts to put my own fleet up. BS is rly quick to train now, dont need any of them to have positive sec anyway. Is this an acceptable use for ISBoxer or no? Although last time I did a smartie BS fleet we killed each other >.> I was the only one who found it funny. Blasphemy I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
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Marsha Mallow
340
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Posted - 2014.04.23 19:26:00 -
[241] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:I fixed it. <-- Happy face
I made sig too \o/
Solecist Project wrote:If you can ISBOX a disco fleet, why not disco RvB? No, I like RvB get out Yes, I just made that up. And?
#1 Dinsdale fan. Back off slappers, he's mine. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
775
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Posted - 2014.04.23 19:51:00 -
[242] - Quote
Marsha Mallow wrote:Solecist Project wrote:I fixed it. <-- Happy face I made sig too \o/ Solecist Project wrote:If you can ISBOX a disco fleet, why not disco RvB? No, I like RvB get out I like RvB too, but that wouldn't stop me.
All these people flying with expensive implants just ask for it! :D Imagine them crying swimming pools full of tears at their CSM! :D ################################
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5303
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Posted - 2014.04.23 21:07:00 -
[243] - Quote
Burn Jita?
I hope it's improved since the first one.
That's the one where 75 little bees would undock, see a red and skedaddle back in to the safety of 4/4. Risk averse is defined in the online dictionary as 'goons in high sec'.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
829
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Posted - 2014.04.23 23:33:00 -
[244] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:Burn Jita? I hope it's improved since the first one. That's the one where 75 little bees would undock, see a red and skedaddle back in to the safety of 4/4. Risk averse is defined in the online dictionary as 'goons in high sec'. Mr Epeen  We are only scared of people who sign their posts. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |

M1k3y Koontz
Thorn Project Surely You're Joking
567
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Posted - 2014.04.23 23:45:00 -
[245] - Quote
Kitty Bear wrote:it's always Jita ... never Hek or Dodixie or somewhere else that's significant.
No imagination .. No 'suddenly spaceships' in unexpected systems, Jita is so 2008.
Be emergent Be unorthodox Be unpredictable
Don't be a bunch of tired, repetitive has-beens.
What else would you expect from the new BoB? How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5305
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Posted - 2014.04.24 00:44:00 -
[246] - Quote
Rhes wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Burn Jita? I hope it's improved since the first one. That's the one where 75 little bees would undock, see a red and skedaddle back in to the safety of 4/4. Risk averse is defined in the online dictionary as 'goons in high sec'. Mr Epeen  We are only scared of people who sign their posts.
BOO!
I saw you jump. Don't deny it.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
457
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Posted - 2014.04.24 01:02:00 -
[247] - Quote
Andski wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
none of value, hopefully and those that are lost will be replaced ten-fold by players who respect the spirit of the game: a fantastic proposition, really, lose entitled $15/month princesses and gain many more real players
LOL all I see is less and less people playing. How's the Goonification of eve working so far.  Nerf Goons
Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
784
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Posted - 2014.04.24 01:12:00 -
[248] - Quote
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:Andski wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
none of value, hopefully and those that are lost will be replaced ten-fold by players who respect the spirit of the game: a fantastic proposition, really, lose entitled $15/month princesses and gain many more real players LOL all I see is less and less people playing. How's the Goonification of eve working so far.  Do you have anything to back that claim up? ################################
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10499
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:12:00 -
[249] - Quote
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:LOL all I see is less and less people playing. How's the Goonification of eve working so far. 
More room for the rest of us Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Claud Tiberius
32
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Posted - 2014.04.24 03:08:00 -
[250] - Quote
Xaerael Endiel wrote:Claud Tiberius wrote:Ima get mah cheap ass Badger.
Tank it real goood.
Watch goons attack it and hear them say - "oh ****" as concord kicks their ass. ... wat? Ahahahaha. Best joke on the Eve o forum EVER. Is not joke  |
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Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
829
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Posted - 2014.04.24 03:46:00 -
[251] - Quote
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:LOL all I see is less and less people playing. How's the Goonification of eve working so far.  It's pretty fantastic.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
757
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:25:00 -
[252] - Quote
oo! oo!
Relevant!
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/86226/giant-eve-online-katamari-damshii#latest
Quote:Goons don't own all of 0.0. They control, personally, not as big of a portion. The coalition they are a part of, CFC, control half of 0.0 the other half is controlled by N3 coalition and a mercenary alliance known as Pandemic Legion (who actually use it to rent out space for lucrative income margins). There are also some other groups such as ProviBloc, roleplayers who live in Providence, StainWagon who are some people I forget the history of and the Russians who are fighting N3/PL because they lost their land about a year ago.
That said, I'm not an EVE Goon and have no affiliations with GoonSwarm.
Says the guy whose sig is "Goonship troopers"
Quote:I'm in Waffles and we don't take sov, because sov mechanics are bad and also really stupid. We are mercenaries/pirates who roam around and pillage to our hearts content. It's good to be a Waffle.
http://themittani.com/features/myth-blue-doughnut
Quote:The CFC control about 1/3 of all solar systems in 0.0
http://i.imgur.com/WUl8k6E.jpg
Quote:Count the dots. It is about 1/3. The east has far more solar systems than the west.
So The evil gewn horde only owns 1/3 of 0.0 guys, its not that bad!
What I dont get is why theyre constantly downplaying how much space they hold. Why even dispute it when ppl say they own 0.0? "Cause goons know eve is a bad game and are all terribly ashamed that they have yet to win."
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:LOL all I see is less and less people playing. How's the Goonification of eve working so far. 
They are here to destroy your game so Id say pretty good.
As an aside, this game is what, 11 years old? I dont think Goons are killing EVE, I think time is And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Ike Litoris
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:45:00 -
[253] - Quote
Hi |

Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
65
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Posted - 2014.04.24 07:06:00 -
[254] - Quote
Seriously considering wardeccing Goons just to shoot them free of concord. |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1455
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Posted - 2014.04.24 07:11:00 -
[255] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Mistah Ewedynao wrote:Andski wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
none of value, hopefully and those that are lost will be replaced ten-fold by players who respect the spirit of the game: a fantastic proposition, really, lose entitled $15/month princesses and gain many more real players LOL all I see is less and less people playing. How's the Goonification of eve working so far.  Do you have anything to back that claim up? Do you remember thread "Let me to Jita"? When it was last time you have seen one? I haven't seen Jita closed for like 2-3 months already. Another sign: forums. GD is almost dead lately. Warfare&Tactics has like 1-2 active threads.... Other forums not much different...
Some say this is normal and people just went to vacations. It can be. But overall activity is very low currently.
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3303
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Posted - 2014.04.24 07:14:00 -
[256] - Quote
Adoris Nolen wrote:Seriously considering wardeccing Goons just to shoot them free of concord. Please do. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5041
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Posted - 2014.04.24 09:29:00 -
[257] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Hello Baltec, would you please be kind enough to explain to the good folk of Eve, how and why Burn Jita is the fault of hi-sec players?
Oh I can do this one. It's their fault because they pay for it. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10502
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Posted - 2014.04.24 10:05:00 -
[258] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:Do you remember thread "Let me to Jita"? When it was last time you have seen one? I haven't seen Jita closed for like 2-3 months already. Another sign: forums. GD is almost dead lately. Warfare&Tactics has like 1-2 active threads.... Other forums not much different...
Some say this is normal and people just went to vacations. It can be. But overall activity is very low currently.
Because you and so many other players don't understand that this game's activity is cyclical and has always been highest after content releases, and that the current PCU record was set just a year ago and, surprise surprise, shortly after Burn Jita 2 Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2268
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Posted - 2014.04.24 10:45:00 -
[259] - Quote
Andski wrote:March rabbit wrote:Do you remember thread "Let me to Jita"? When it was last time you have seen one? I haven't seen Jita closed for like 2-3 months already. Another sign: forums. GD is almost dead lately. Warfare&Tactics has like 1-2 active threads.... Other forums not much different...
Some say this is normal and people just went to vacations. It can be. But overall activity is very low currently.
Because you and so many other players don't understand that this game's activity is cyclical and has always been highest after content releases, and that the current PCU record was set just a year ago and, surprise surprise, shortly after Burn Jita 2
Well it is a surprise to see anyone connect Bore Jita to the highest CPU.
Hmm, let me think of an alternative explanation....
Oh, I have one, the 10th anniversary of Eve Online. This is not a signature. |

Kristopher Rocancourt
Auto Erotic Decapitation
380
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Posted - 2014.04.24 11:34:00 -
[260] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal....yawn. I will do my business in and near Jita long before start time.
I feel bad for the majority of the player base that does not read the forums or blogs. Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
*Snip* Removed off topic part of the post. ISD Ezwal.
petitioned for impersonating ISD and talking about enforcement and bans.
http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/ |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10502
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:44:00 -
[261] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Well it is a surprise to see anyone connect Bore Jita to the highest CPU.
Hmm, let me think of an alternative explanation....
Oh, I have one, the 10th anniversary of Eve Online.
"guys burn jita is bad for the game look how many people will stop logging in and unsub"
"uh the game had a concurrent login record less than a week after the last burn jita"
"BUT THE ANNIVERSARY" Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Herzyr
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2014.04.24 15:52:00 -
[262] - Quote
This is why we need WIS. Let's just all stay docked up,sipping wine or quafe while the peanut gallery dies under a firework of goons.
Or maybe subs will drop dramatically during burn jita and they will spike back after it's done. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2268
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:05:00 -
[263] - Quote
Andski wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Well it is a surprise to see anyone connect Bore Jita to the highest CPU.
Hmm, let me think of an alternative explanation....
Oh, I have one, the 10th anniversary of Eve Online. "guys burn jita is bad for the game look how many people will stop logging in and unsub" "uh the game had a concurrent login record less than a week after the last burn jita" "BUT THE ANNIVERSARY"
Hey Andski, if you want to think Bore Jita is the reason for the player record peak, and not the 10th anniversary when the whole, 'lets get as many folk online for the 10th anniversary' was heavily promoted on the forums, you do that.
It is just so sweet and adorable of you. This is not a signature. |

Victor Andall
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
389
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:08:00 -
[264] - Quote
I don't see how Burn Jita is a problem ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S BEEN ANNOUNCED WEEKS BEFOREHAND.
Just...stay away from Jita for a weekend, jeez... I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
757
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:56:00 -
[265] - Quote
Victor Andall wrote:I don't see how Burn Jita is a problem ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S BEEN ANNOUNCED WEEKS BEFOREHAND.
Just...stay away from Jita for a weekend, jeez...
Stupid ppl gotta be stupid
And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10513
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Posted - 2014.04.24 17:04:00 -
[266] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Hey Andski, if you want to think Bore Jita is the reason for the player record peak, and not the 10th anniversary when the whole, 'lets get as many folk online for the 10th anniversary' was heavily promoted on the forums, you do that.
It is just so sweet and adorable of you.
Hey Josef Djugashvili, maybe you don't realize that my post was in response to people saying that player counts are dropping because of events like Burn Jita, even though the current PCU record was set after many, many such events, indicating that such events are not unhealthy for the game
But please continue to totally misconstrue my point Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
789
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Posted - 2014.04.24 17:08:00 -
[267] - Quote
*sips last drops of peppermint tea*
I need to make instadock, instaundock and a few more bookmarks before the party starts...
Hm.... empty cup. ################################
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2268
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Posted - 2014.04.24 17:22:00 -
[268] - Quote
Andski, it was you who posited the link between Burn Jita and the peak in players online, not I.
See your post 122 for details.
The first Burn Jita was a great player made event, and all credit to the goons etc for setting it up.
Second one, oh well, it livened up a few days.
Third one, Bore Jita. This is not a signature. |

Kristopher Rocancourt
Auto Erotic Decapitation
383
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Posted - 2014.04.24 19:27:00 -
[269] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:*sips last drops of peppermint tea*
I need to make instadock, instaundock and a few more bookmarks before the party starts...
Hm.... empty cup.
dont forget up /down/left/right/front/back BM's at your preferred engagement range in KM's from undock as well :)
http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/ |

Functionary
The Wolves' Pack
12
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Posted - 2014.04.24 22:16:00 -
[270] - Quote
"Cthulhu R'lyeh" is the super secret password
Send no isk now |
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
1179
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Posted - 2014.04.24 22:31:00 -
[271] - Quote
Andski wrote:March rabbit wrote:Do you remember thread "Let me to Jita"? When it was last time you have seen one? I haven't seen Jita closed for like 2-3 months already. Another sign: forums. GD is almost dead lately. Warfare&Tactics has like 1-2 active threads.... Other forums not much different...
Some say this is normal and people just went to vacations. It can be. But overall activity is very low currently.
Because you and so many other players don't understand that this game's activity is cyclical and has always been highest after content releases, and that the current PCU record was set just a year ago and, surprise surprise, shortly after Burn Jita 2
Spinning the honey are we? Does even the lowliest drone believe this propaganda?
Online numbers are approaching the terrible down spike in 2011, When CCP decided to admit they didn't give a crap about their subscribers.... But you just keep spinning it son, I'm sure you'll enjoy the peace and quiet. 
CCP: "We know what's best for the game, so you can't have any options....." |

Functionary
The Wolves' Pack
12
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Posted - 2014.04.25 00:16:00 -
[272] - Quote
I just want to see some action on Twitch TV This forum alt contract and bad posting is dull so I need something to brighten my day while running "officer grade tears" in my jump freighter :) |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
794
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Posted - 2014.04.25 00:23:00 -
[273] - Quote
Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:Solecist Project wrote:*sips last drops of peppermint tea*
I need to make instadock, instaundock and a few more bookmarks before the party starts...
Hm.... empty cup. dont forget up /down/left/right/front/back BM's at your preferred engagement range in KM's from undock as well :) Thanks, but I really only need one bookmark right at the undock for that. :)
I can only fly minmatar frigates, (ignoring my racial starter skills, which I ignored completely) so my "preferred engagement range" is whatever either my 250mm or 280mm provide me with... :)
No need for anything bigger, really. :) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1653
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Posted - 2014.04.25 00:57:00 -
[274] - Quote
Personally, I never understood why people have a problem with burn jita. It's easy to avoid and it generates pretty explosions. Also makes an occasionally hilarious loss mail. What's not to like? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
802
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Posted - 2014.04.25 01:33:00 -
[275] - Quote
Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:Solecist Project wrote:*sips last drops of peppermint tea*
I need to make instadock, instaundock and a few more bookmarks before the party starts...
Hm.... empty cup. dont forget up /down/left/right/front/back BM's at your preferred engagement range in KM's from undock as well :) NOW I get it!*
You are talking about my combat bookmarks I used as -10 in Hek for my long range Thrasher and Tornado engagements!
How in hell do you remember this??? :D
Good times! Too bad I can't even fit a standard 50km Thrasher anymore. :)
Thanks for reminding me! :D
Good night! :D
*(It hit me, like a ton of feathers, when I went to bed.) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
17
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Posted - 2014.04.25 02:21:00 -
[276] - Quote
Don't want to play in the Goonie games stay 10 jumps away from Jita. Pretty simple m8's |

Far Wanderer
Bank of Far
39
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Posted - 2014.04.25 04:51:00 -
[277] - Quote
TYVM Goons for keeping things interesting and fun.
:) Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. --Azual Skoll |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
843
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Posted - 2014.04.25 05:49:00 -
[278] - Quote
Thought i'd pass on my thanks for making sure i stay space rich. I can always turn a tidy profit from such events!
But, paradoxically, i also think that events like burn Jita harm the game as a whole. Ultimately serving the narrow, selfish interests of those that would force PvP onto those that have no interest in it. They don't even care if these players unsub, such is their disregard for the future of EvE.
But hey, who cares right, long as you're having fun your way?
I'd suggest you guys get you're pvp fix somewhere other than highsec, but then you'd have targets that actually fight back? No, you're right, that doesn't sound fun at all! Best stick to EvE with easy mode on, hitting all those freighters. EvE is always more fun with zero risk and maximum reward. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |

Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2014.04.25 05:53:00 -
[279] - Quote
Why is this thread not locked yet??
The less people know the better..
In my opinion this thread is an offense against EULA, it's an out of game exploit to control the in game market and economy as well as it kills the sandbox meaning yea?
ISD close this thread. |

Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
105
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Posted - 2014.04.25 06:05:00 -
[280] - Quote
Cpt Swagg wrote:Why is this thread not locked yet??
The less people know the better..
In my opinion this thread is an offense against EULA, it's an out of game exploit to control the in game market and economy as well as it kills the sandbox meaning yea?
ISD close this thread.
Oh noes the goonies are trying to make the game better for themselves at the expense of all the .01ers in Jita quick make it an exploit.  |
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Nakami Saans
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2014.04.25 06:06:00 -
[281] - Quote
So where does all the action in Jita usually take place? |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10517
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Posted - 2014.04.25 06:21:00 -
[282] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote:But, paradoxically, i also think that events like burn Jita harm the game as a whole. Ultimately serving the narrow, selfish interests of those that would force PvP onto those that have no interest in it. They don't even care if these players unsub, such is their disregard for the future of EvE.
it's fantastic for the game, a handful of entitled wretches will realize that this game isn't for them and are replaced by a larger number of people who come in with a good idea about what this game is about Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Salvos Rhoska
1179
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Posted - 2014.04.25 06:26:00 -
[283] - Quote
Andski wrote:entitled wretches Don't get me wrong. I support the burning and sacking of EVE's Rome. But you might want to look closer to home to find the largest concentration of "entitled wretches", if ya know what I mean.
Would you not agree, that Nullbear tears are quite a distinct and appetizing flavor? ------------ |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
451
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Posted - 2014.04.25 06:41:00 -
[284] - Quote
I've heard that people in null sec are kind of like "carebears" because while they've made the choice to put thousands of pilots within the same region, they claim that there isn't enough content in that region for those thousands of pilots to make more isk per hour than if they were in high sec.
Now considering that CCP made Null sec how they did, Also considering the TIDI exists because the servers can't handle thousands of people within the same solar system, that maybe the desire of CCP was to have a null sec with thinner concentrations of players, instead of thousands choosing to group up on one place.
And that since those thousands of players choose to put themselves in a situation where they make their ISK generations resources limited and scarce, that they want CCP to change the game to suit their needs, making them carebears.
Would this sentiment be accepted as a viable conclusion to reach, considering the argument made against "carebears" is that they're trying to change the game for their own views of how they think EvE should be when they could very well adapt how it is they're playing the game instead? Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2272
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Posted - 2014.04.25 06:49:00 -
[285] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote:Thought i'd pass on my thanks for making sure i stay space rich. I can always turn a tidy profit from such events!
But, paradoxically, i also think that events like burn Jita harm the game as a whole. Ultimately serving the narrow, selfish interests of those that would force PvP onto those that have no interest in it. They don't even care if these players unsub, such is their disregard for the future of EvE.
But hey, who cares right, long as you're having fun your way?
I'd suggest you guys get you're pvp fix somewhere other than highsec, but then you'd have targets that actually fight back? No, you're right, that doesn't sound fun at all! Best stick to EvE with easy mode on, hitting all those freighters. EvE is always more fun with zero risk and maximum reward.
Whilst I think Bore Jita is a bit past its sell by date in terms of innovative play, I do not believe that it does or should harm subs.
The event is always given a lot of advance publicity by the goons as the event is really about them trying to prove that they are relevant to anyone outside of null-sec (nothing wrong with that) so If any non pvp player gets ganked in or around Jita, well, what can one say?
Even for those who do not read the forums, the pretty explosions in and around Jita should suggest that a few days trading elsewhere or actually doing something other than trading for a few days would be advisable. This is not a signature. |

Dave Stark
5056
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Posted - 2014.04.25 07:04:00 -
[286] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Andski wrote:entitled wretches Don't get me wrong. I support the burning and sacking of EVE's Rome. But you might want to look closer to home to find the largest concentration of "entitled wretches", if ya know what I mean. Would you not agree, that Nullbear tears are quite a distinct and appetizing flavor?
except you won't find a larger concentration of players outside of high sec, jita is population capped during peak times, null sec systems are mostly barren and empty. |

Salvos Rhoska
1180
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Posted - 2014.04.25 07:29:00 -
[287] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote: jita is population capped during peak times null sec systems are mostly barren and empty. Are you saying EVE is dying?
Careful now, Nullbear. ------------ |

Dave Stark
5056
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Posted - 2014.04.25 07:33:00 -
[288] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Dave Stark wrote: jita is population capped during peak times null sec systems are mostly barren and empty. Are you saying EVE is dying? Careful now, Nullbear.
i see you're still having trouble understanding simple sentences. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5335
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Posted - 2014.04.25 07:35:00 -
[289] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Dave Stark wrote: jita is population capped during peak times null sec systems are mostly barren and empty. Are you saying EVE is dying? Careful now, Nullbear. i see you're still having trouble understanding simple sentences.
Which, for a lawyer, is rather embarrassing if you ask me. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Salvos Rhoska
1180
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Posted - 2014.04.25 07:36:00 -
[290] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Dave Stark wrote: jita is population capped during peak times null sec systems are mostly barren and empty. Are you saying EVE is dying? Careful now, Nullbear. i see you're still having trouble understanding simple sentences. Which, for a lawyer, is rather embarrassing if you ask me.
I guess you'd better call your lawyer then. ------------ |
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Dave Stark
5056
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Posted - 2014.04.25 07:52:00 -
[291] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Dave Stark wrote: jita is population capped during peak times null sec systems are mostly barren and empty. Are you saying EVE is dying? Careful now, Nullbear. i see you're still having trouble understanding simple sentences. Which, for a lawyer, is rather embarrassing if you ask me. I guess you'd better call your lawyer then.
you know, if you stopped posting irrelevant drivel every time you were proven wrong, people might not look down on you as much. |

Victor Andall
Heleneto Holdings
394
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:00:00 -
[292] - Quote
Yang Aurilen wrote:Cpt Swagg wrote:Why is this thread not locked yet??
The less people know the better..
In my opinion this thread is an offense against EULA, it's an out of game exploit to control the in game market and economy as well as it kills the sandbox meaning yea?
ISD close this thread. Oh noes the goonies are trying to make the game better for themselves at the expense of all the .01ers in Jita quick make it an exploit. 
False. .01ers never undock and are thus unaffected by BJ.
haha, the acronym is BJ I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |

Salvos Rhoska
1180
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:01:00 -
[293] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:If I didn't only post irrelevant drivel every time I am proven wrong, people might not look down on me as much.
Fixed that for you. I'll use lube next time, I promise. ------------ |

Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
105
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:06:00 -
[294] - Quote
Victor Andall wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Cpt Swagg wrote:Why is this thread not locked yet??
The less people know the better..
In my opinion this thread is an offense against EULA, it's an out of game exploit to control the in game market and economy as well as it kills the sandbox meaning yea?
ISD close this thread. Oh noes the goonies are trying to make the game better for themselves at the expense of all the .01ers in Jita quick make it an exploit.  False. .01ers never undock and are thus unaffected by BJ. haha, the acronym is BJ My Jita alt .01 AND undocks. Therefore your claim is false. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
950
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:14:00 -
[295] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Dave Stark wrote:If I didn't only post irrelevant drivel every time I am proven wrong, people might not look down on me as much. Fixed that for you. I'll use lube next time, I promise. for that tickle?! how sensitive are you? Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á The Best Quote EVER Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Dave Stark
5059
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:19:00 -
[296] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Dave Stark wrote:If I didn't only post irrelevant drivel every time I am proven wrong, people might not look down on me as much. Fixed that for you. I'll use lube next time, I promise.
this is basically exactly what i'm talking about.
instead of just admitting you were wrong, you try and make some personal argument about it. you're the one looking foolish here. |

Salvos Rhoska
1180
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:20:00 -
[297] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:you're the one looking foolish here.
That's all you ever look like.
I know you are still angry and upset Erotica1 was banned, but you really should finally get over it. ------------ |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
950
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:24:00 -
[298] - Quote
just ignore him this morning dave "he's" clearly on the rag. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á The Best Quote EVER Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Dave Stark
5059
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:26:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Dave Stark wrote:you're the one looking foolish here. That's all you ever look like. I know you are still angry and upset Erotica1 was banned, but you really should finally get over it.
so you carry on even after i've pointed it out.
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
843
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:34:00 -
[300] - Quote
Andski wrote:Xen Solarus wrote:But, paradoxically, i also think that events like burn Jita harm the game as a whole. Ultimately serving the narrow, selfish interests of those that would force PvP onto those that have no interest in it. They don't even care if these players unsub, such is their disregard for the future of EvE. it's fantastic for the game, a handful of entitled wretches will realize that this game isn't for them and are replaced by a larger number of people who come in with a good idea about what this game is about
Ah there's that narrow, self-interest i was talking about! Why have people playing in the sandbox differently huh? Much better for the sandbox to conform to your interests, right? They are, afterall, playing the game wrong! Much better for them to all unsub!
EvE is a great game for exactly the reason it caters to all play styles. From the most hardened super-active PvP Pirate scumbag, right down to the afk mining stay-at-home parent. The highsec hater crowd likes to make out that their actions are for the good of the game, but they couldn't care less about the continued growth and development of EvE, just as long as they get their easy mode. Why bother with actual PvP when you've got all those tasty defenceless targets in highsec that won't shoot back? Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5336
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:45:00 -
[301] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote: Ah there's that narrow, self-interest i was talking about! Why have people playing in the sandbox differently huh? Much better for the sandbox to conform to your interests, right? They are, afterall, playing the game wrong! Much better for them to all unsub!
If they think they should be immune to the actions of others? Yep, they can unsub for all I care.
Quote: Why bother with actual PvP when you've got all those tasty defenceless targets in highsec that won't shoot back?
The real question is, why does this game have so many people who refuse to act in accordance with the reality of the game? Why do people plod along, falsely secure in their self delusion that other players can't effect them?
If you ask me, that's tantamount to mental illness.
Oh, and all PvP is real PvP. You don't get to redefine the term to attempt to strip legitimacy away from the activity. That's just petty, childish, and proves that you don't have anything resembling a real argument. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
952
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Posted - 2014.04.25 08:49:00 -
[302] - Quote
i for one have been stocking up on ships, i dont plan on keeping any of them long. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á The Best Quote EVER Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
15217
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Posted - 2014.04.25 10:32:00 -
[303] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote:Andski wrote:Xen Solarus wrote:But, paradoxically, i also think that events like burn Jita harm the game as a whole. Ultimately serving the narrow, selfish interests of those that would force PvP onto those that have no interest in it. They don't even care if these players unsub, such is their disregard for the future of EvE. it's fantastic for the game, a handful of entitled wretches will realize that this game isn't for them and are replaced by a larger number of people who come in with a good idea about what this game is about Ah there's that narrow, self-interest i was talking about! Why have people playing in the sandbox differently huh? Much better for the sandbox to conform to your interests, right? They are, afterall, playing the game wrong! Much better for them to all unsub! EvE is a great game for exactly the reason it caters to all play styles. From the most hardened super-active PvP Pirate scumbag, right down to the afk mining stay-at-home parent. The highsec hater crowd likes to make out that their actions are for the good of the game, but they couldn't care less about the continued growth and development of EvE, just as long as they get their easy mode. Why bother with actual PvP when you've got all those tasty defenceless targets in highsec that won't shoot back?
They get to be immune from combat PvP if I get to be immune from market PvP. If I'm allowed a flag that means I can purchase any items I want at NPC prices, then sure, let's go for it. Here is my CSM9 endorsement list - vote for diversity of expertise : Ali Aras-á Mangala Solaris-á Mike Azariah-á Steve Ronuken James Arget-á Xander Phoena-á Sugar Kyle-á corbexx-á mynnna-á progodlegend-á Psychotic Monk-á Jayne Fillion
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
803
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Posted - 2014.04.25 11:06:00 -
[304] - Quote
I have to work when it starts. I hope I don't miss out on good stuff.
Oh it starts... now?
*sips coffee*
Glad I have enough to drink... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
804
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Posted - 2014.04.25 11:54:00 -
[305] - Quote
The EvExploration stream on twitch is still offline. Is there another? There's no obvious one.
My browser says TheMittanidotcom is playing diablo and then drops the window and tells me that the mime type isn't supported.
FF on Android, Mobile.
Any hints? I do have FlashFireFox for Android but the ads are annoying.
Help would be appreciated and sorry for stupid questions.
ed: nevermind i just derped. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Victor Andall
Heleneto Holdings
394
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:03:00 -
[306] - Quote
Yang Aurilen wrote:Victor Andall wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Cpt Swagg wrote:Why is this thread not locked yet??
The less people know the better..
In my opinion this thread is an offense against EULA, it's an out of game exploit to control the in game market and economy as well as it kills the sandbox meaning yea?
ISD close this thread. Oh noes the goonies are trying to make the game better for themselves at the expense of all the .01ers in Jita quick make it an exploit.  False. .01ers never undock and are thus unaffected by BJ. haha, the acronym is BJ My Jita alt .01 AND undocks. Therefore your claim is false.
No, it's not. The acronym really is BJ. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10518
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:13:00 -
[307] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote:Ah there's that narrow, self-interest i was talking about! Why have people playing in the sandbox differently huh? Much better for the sandbox to conform to your interests, right? They are, afterall, playing the game wrong! Much better for them to all unsub!
Yes, it really is better for those who expect to be immune to PvP to simply unsub and find another MMO.
Xen Solarus wrote:EvE is a great game for exactly the reason it caters to all play styles. From the most hardened super-active PvP Pirate scumbag, right down to the afk mining stay-at-home parent. The highsec hater crowd likes to make out that their actions are for the good of the game, but they couldn't care less about the continued growth and development of EvE, just as long as they get their easy mode. Why bother with actual PvP when you've got all those tasty defenceless targets in highsec that won't shoot back?
We care about the continued growth and development of the game because we wouldn't be able to play it if it dies off. Events like Burn Jita are important because the players' ability to put a system under siege - even if it is an NPC-owned system - is a testament to the fact that it is a sandbox. We care about the continued growth and development of the game as long as it stays a sandbox and doesn't become the casual PvE themepark surrounded by a PvP sandbox that the "afk mining stay-at-home parents" want. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10519
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:16:00 -
[308] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:That's all you ever look like.
I know you are still angry and upset Erotica1 was banned, but you really should finally get over it.
I get that you want to gloat about it like it's your victory or something, but nobody cares (and you had nothing to do with it anyway) Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
804
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:29:00 -
[309] - Quote
I don't see how and where EVE caters to all playstyles.
Can you explain what this means and why it seems to sound like it caters to somebody who does not want to engage in combat?
PvP does not equal shipcombat btw. There is no way around PvP, but one can try to avoid a specific subtype of PvP.
I'd love to read your explanation. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

stoicfaux
4593
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:09:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:good luck, but i'm extremely disappointed burn jita 3 doesn't have a subtitle "Suckling at the Teat of Carebear Tears" "Attack Ships Noncombatants on Fire Off the Shoulder of Orion Jita Undock" "Meh, We Couldn't Think of Anything More Original: The Sequel" "Good Mooooooooooooooooorning Jita!" "Pyrrhic Victory, Best Victory" "AvP Goons v. CONCORD" "Idle Hands Minds Are the Devil's Goon's Playground" "Goonswarm Rank and File: The Best AI in Any Game, AnywhereGäó" "Dude! Where's Your Freighter!?!" "High Sec is 100% Safe if you Never, Ever, Undock" "An Event So Popular We Accidentally Pop-Locked the System Leaving Just Goons and Station Traders to Stare at Each Other in Local"
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Claud Tiberius
32
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:45:00 -
[311] - Quote
So its over yes? Did the goons get anything good?
All I saw was a bunch of dessy wrecks and a lot of concord ships, I must have missed the party.
Very disappointing. Hardly the "burning" I was expecting. |

Dave Stark
5062
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:56:00 -
[312] - Quote
Claud Tiberius wrote:So its over yes? Did the goons get anything good?
All I saw was a bunch of dessy wrecks and a lot of concord ships, I must have missed the party.
Very disappointing. Hardly the "burning" I was expecting.
unsurprisingly "they just ganked something" is a boring retort that has been used every year by other people. they were also laughed at for various reasons. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1370
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Posted - 2014.04.25 14:32:00 -
[313] - Quote
Claud Tiberius wrote:So its over yes? Did the goons get anything good? No, just started really and looks to be going off well.
About 600 kills an hour and there was an almost 10 Billion ISK Anshar (nothing dropped) linked in a fleet I was roaming with, a couple of hours ago. It was one of the early kills post DT.
Should be some more good ones into the weekend.
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |

John MidWolfie
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.25 14:49:00 -
[314] - Quote
It just started few hours ago :) |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4829
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:46:00 -
[315] - Quote
stoicfaux wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:good luck, but i'm extremely disappointed burn jita 3 doesn't have a subtitle "Suckling at the Teat of Carebear Tears" " Attack Ships Noncombatants on Fire Off the Shoulder of Orion Jita Undock" "Meh, We Couldn't Think of Anything More Original: The Sequel" "Good Mooooooooooooooooorning Jita!" "Pyrrhic Victory, Best Victory" " AvP Goons v. CONCORD" "Idle Hands Minds Are the Devil's Goon's Playground" "Goonswarm Rank and File: The Best AI in Any Game, AnywhereGäó" "Dude! Where's Your Freighter!?!" "High Sec is 100% Safe if you Never, Ever, Undock" "An Event So Popular We Accidentally Pop-Locked the System Leaving Just Goons and Station Traders to Stare at Each Other in Local"
How about:
"This time we didn't forget the bacon"
But this one is pretty darn good:
"Dude! Where's Your Freighter!?!"
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6203
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Posted - 2014.04.25 16:13:00 -
[316] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote:Thought i'd pass on my thanks for making sure i stay space rich. I can always turn a tidy profit from such events!
But, paradoxically, i also think that events like burn Jita harm the game as a whole. Ultimately serving the narrow, selfish interests of those that would force PvP onto those that have no interest in it. They don't even care if these players unsub, such is their disregard for the future of EvE.
But hey, who cares right, long as you're having fun your way?
I'd suggest you guys get you're pvp fix somewhere other than highsec, but then you'd have targets that actually fight back? No, you're right, that doesn't sound fun at all! Best stick to EvE with easy mode on, hitting all those freighters. EvE is always more fun with zero risk and maximum reward.
This is always silly thinking. EVE has been a game that features non-consensual encounters (ie 'people forcing pvp onto people who have no interest in it') since day one. 10 years of non-consensual pvp.
If you don't want pvp forced on you, the choice to play EVE Online is a terribly incorrect one.
There is also zero indication of events like burn jita causing a decrease in subscriptions. That seems to indicate to me that other people are not as over sensitive about the issue as you are and fully understand that their choice to play EVE Online involves risk of 'unwanted' pvp.
As a PVE player, I recognize that a big part of my gameplay involves discouraging and preventing unwanted pvp from happening to me (which i have been really successful at). I do this by thinking about how I play, how i fit, where I play, when i play and so forth.
If you want to be a non-pvp player in a pvp based game (and EVE is a game with pvp at it's heart), this is what you have to do. If you don't like that, it's not a problem with the game or the people playing the game. The problem is that you're playing the wrong video game. |

Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
19283
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:04:00 -
[317] - Quote
is she hot? Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
I like to gank it, gank it!
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
844
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:26:00 -
[318] - Quote
Never said i thought that EvE should have non-consensual encounters. I'm a firm believer that people flying around highsec with insane cargo's are just begging to get ganked. I'd also like to point out that i don't live in highsec, people seem to assume that because of my opinions on this subject. When people shoot at me, they do so for free, no concord protection for me.
That being said, EvE is a great game for exactly the reason that it contains so many different play styles. You don't have to love PvP to play EvE. You don't have to be involved in it, at all. Thats what empire is there for, not only as a safe area for new players to learn the game's insane learning curve, but also as an area for those that enjoy all the aspects of the game that have nothing to do with PvP. I know players that literally never undock, and yet they still seem to have fun making stuff and playing with spreadsheets and making isk hand over fist. Personally, i couldn't think of anything more boring, but hey, thats the great thing about EvE, you get what you like out of the sandbox.
I also should make clear that I have nothing against Burn Jita in general. It's a good content generator, and those that are killed, quite frankly, deserve it. What are they doing flying around during such an event? Madness! Plus, it makes me lots of isk. I just have issues with gankers in general, especially the ones that sprout their highsec-hating rhetoric as if to justify their position. Lets face it, they're doing it because it easy, it makes them isk, and collects them tears.
I believe that people that truely embrace PvP do so outside of the confines of highsec. Those that do so within are nothing but gank-bears, playing EvE on easy-mode. Ganking, by its very nature, flies completely in the face of EvE's risk vs reward philosophy. Because highsec ganking, when done right, is completely risk free. No-wonder they love it so much, the majority of them wouldn't know real PvP if it came and smacked them in the face. If they hate highsec so much, what it represents and those that choose to stay there, why are they even there?
Personally, i see no reason for all play styles to exist within EvE. It is the defining factor that makes it special over all over MMO's. Take that away, and EvE would be a shadow of it's former self. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10532
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:32:00 -
[319] - Quote
When I hear the word playstyle, I reach for my gun Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6208
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:48:00 -
[320] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote:Never said i thought that EvE should have non-consensual encounters. I'm a firm believer that people flying around highsec with insane cargo's are just begging to get ganked. I'd also like to point out that i don't live in highsec, people seem to assume that because of my opinions on this subject. When people shoot at me, they do so for free, no concord protection for me.
That being said, EvE is a great game for exactly the reason that it contains so many different play styles. You don't have to love PvP to play EvE. You don't have to be involved in it, at all.
And that's where you are wrong. In a NON-CONSENSUAL pvp game, it's not always you choice on whether or not you participate in pvp or not (with the exception of not undocking). Thus the words 'non-consensual'.
Quote: Thats what empire is there for, not only as a safe area for new players to learn the game's insane learning curve, but also as an area for those that enjoy all the aspects of the game that have nothing to do with PvP. I know players that literally never undock, and yet they still seem to have fun making stuff and playing with spreadsheets and making isk hand over fist. Personally, i couldn't think of anything more boring, but hey, thats the great thing about EvE, you get what you like out of the sandbox.
Sandbox doesn't mean yo can do what you want, it means everyone can do what they want, even things you don't like. The people who don't undock are still risking player to player interaction (that's what a market is). you don't get to say 'hey, I don't want that interaction with my market orders, I'm just going to do market pve' lol.
You views of the game go counter not only to the spirit of the game, but to the reality of it as well. High sec isn't there for people to avoid pvp, if it was, guns would not work there. High sec is 'safer' space for those who prefer it that way, but there is always danger.
Quote: I also should make clear that I have nothing against Burn Jita in general. It's a good content generator, and those that are killed, quite frankly, deserve it. What are they doing flying around during such an event? Madness! Plus, it makes me lots of isk. I just have issues with gankers in general, especially the ones that sprout their highsec-hating rhetoric as if to justify their position. Lets face it, they're doing it because it easy, it makes them isk, and collects them tears.
I bolded the part that this is really about. It's really a personal issue you have with gankers. Ganking is one of the coolest parts of the game that I don't personally enjoy or engage in but it provides content.
I don't understand the underlined part however. We're playing a video game, the ONLY legitimate reason to do that is to have fun. Fun for them is isk and tears (in a game that advertises tear collecting lol). You can undersand how the people who don't undock are having fun but yo can't get how the gankers are having fun?
Quote: I believe that people that truely embrace PvP do so outside of the confines of highsec. Those that do so within are nothing but gank-bears, playing EvE on easy-mode. Ganking, by its very nature, flies completely in the face of EvE's risk vs reward philosophy. Because highsec ganking, when done right, is completely risk free. No-wonder they love it so much, the majority of them wouldn't know real PvP if it came and smacked them in the face. If they hate highsec so much, what it represents and those that choose to stay there, why are they even there?
Personally, i see no reason for all play styles to exist within EvE. It is the defining factor that makes it special over all over MMO's. Take that away, and EvE would be a shadow of it's former self.
The problem here is that you're making a senseless value judgement. "real pvp" goes on outside of high sec. Someone better tell RvB that lol. You personal hang ups against gankers is the issue clouding your judgement and makes your proclamation of support for non-consensual pvp seem shallow.
PVPing out side of high sec (which I have done fairly extensively,. though not as extensively as a true pvp-lover) does not make you some kind of cool/hip honorable space man. PVPing solo, in a small gang or in a hugh fleet holds NO more value than ganking a freighter with 40 of your best friends in Niarja.
It's the exact same thing as the fact that you choosing to shoot real people in imaginary space ships (PVP) holds no more value than my choice to slaughter NPCs by the boatload every night (PVE)
This is a video game, try getting off that high horse for a bit. |
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Needmore Longcat
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
81
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:51:00 -
[321] - Quote
http://www.isjitaburning.com/ Obviously, the answer is yes. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
757
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Posted - 2014.04.25 20:22:00 -
[322] - Quote
wow, never had a thread go ten pages deep before XD And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
3095
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Posted - 2014.04.25 20:26:00 -
[323] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:wow, never had a thread go ten pages deep before XD the op includes the holy trifecta of volatile subject matter
- goons - highsec - ganking |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
814
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:32:00 -
[324] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:wow, never had a thread go ten pages deep before XD the op includes the holy trifecta of volatile subject matter - goons - highsec - ganking
Isn't WiS a part of that? |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1662
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Posted - 2014.04.25 21:34:00 -
[325] - Quote
Pix Severus wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:wow, never had a thread go ten pages deep before XD the op includes the holy trifecta of volatile subject matter - goons - highsec - ganking Isn't WiS a part of that? Goons ganked WiS in real life. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1204

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Posted - 2014.04.25 23:59:00 -
[326] - Quote
Thread locked for some cleaning. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Grayson Cole
Xerex Industrial Solutions
63
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Posted - 2014.04.26 02:44:00 -
[327] - Quote
Looks like I picked a hell of a time to return after a year long hiatus.
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
757
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Posted - 2014.04.26 04:30:00 -
[328] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil! The Rules:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. Thread unlocked.
you broke my ten pages -.- And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
847
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Posted - 2014.04.26 06:47:00 -
[329] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote: And that's where you are wrong. In a NON-CONSENSUAL pvp game, it's not always you choice on whether or not you participate in pvp or not (with the exception of not undocking). Thus the words 'non-consensual'.
I literally just said that i've got nothing against non-consensual combat. Did you not read what i'd posted?
Jenn aSide wrote:Sandbox doesn't mean yo can do what you want, it means everyone can do what they want, even things you don't like.
Lots of contradictions in this one. Of course you can do things to people they don't like, e.g. ganking, and they can do the things you don't like e.g. never undocking industrialist that hates PvP. Thats what makes EvE such a good game! And so, it does mean you can do what you like, hense the sandbox. You just have to accept that someone might try to ruin your fun, and explode your stuff.
Jenn aSide wrote:You views of the game go counter not only to the spirit of the game, but to the reality of it as well. High sec isn't there for people to avoid pvp, if it was, guns would not work there.
Completely disagree. One of the reasons highsec is there for those that don't have an interest in PvP. It's the only area for players that don't have time to play for long periods, or those that just want to do all the things you label as boring. If CCP were to remove concord and empire, all those players would evaporate, and they are the majority. If EvE was just pure PvP, there would be no reason for them to stay, and EvE would just be you guys shooting eachother and moaning about the lack of targets.
Jenn aSide wrote:It's really a personal issue you have with gankers. Ganking is one of the coolest parts of the game that I don't personally enjoy or engage in but it provides content.
We're playing a video game, the ONLY legitimate reason to do that is to have fun. Fun for them is isk and tears (in a game that advertises tear collecting lol). You can undersand how the people who don't undock are having fun but yo can't get how the gankers are having fun?
Though i do look down upon gankers (from my high horse, apparently), i consider them to be right down the bottom of EvE professions, I won't go as far to say that they shouldn't exist. I should note that i've never been ganked in highsec. People flying around highsec with large value cargo's should be targets for gankers. The issue i have is the complete lack of risk involved. That, imo, goes against the spirit of EvE. Of course gankers are having fun, with their no risk, maximum reward play style, shooting people that don't want anything to do with PvP, and collecting their tears in a big bucket. It's EvE with easy-mode on.
Of course computer games are about having fun, but in EvE its a balance between the two sides of the argument. Those that want to get their PvP fix have the entire galaxy, but instead choose to stick close to those that have no interest. In this case, one persons fun can ruin anothers, and if done to a too large extent, could lead to people not having fun in their play styles, and leaving the game. That, is not a good thing for EvE, regardless of how many of the highsec hater crowd would claim.
Wardecs are a seperate issue, thats real PvP in highsec. Groups like RvB are awesome in that regard. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5350
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Posted - 2014.04.26 07:03:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:
Of course computer games are about having fun, but in EvE its a balance between the two sides of the argument. Those that want to get their PvP fix have the entire galaxy, but instead choose to stick close to those that have no interest. In this case, one persons fun can ruin anothers, and if done to a too large extent, could lead to people not having fun in their play styles, and leaving the game. That, is not a good thing for EvE, regardless of how many of the highsec hater crowd would claim.
Wardecs are a seperate issue, thats real PvP in highsec. Groups like RvB are awesome in that regard.
How disingenuous. We aren't the ones who threw away live and let live, tried to campaign to CCP to legislate other people's playstyles out of existence. That would be your side.
"I want PvP to happen" vs. "I want PvP to NEVER happen" is not this clash of equal philosophies like you would like to portray.
One wants to play the game the way the game exists. The other one wants to change the game, because he has chosen a zero sum equation. He has staked the claim that the way he plays means that other people aren't allowed to have fun the way they want to.
One is a gamer. The other is a petulant child. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1278
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Posted - 2014.04.26 07:38:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
How disingenuous. We aren't the ones who threw away live and let live, tried to campaign to CCP to legislate other people's playstyles out of existence. That would be your side.
"I want PvP to happen" vs. "I want PvP to NEVER happen" is not this clash of equal philosophies like you would like to portray.
One wants to play the game the way the game exists. The other one wants to change the game, because he has chosen a zero sum equation. He has staked the claim that the way he plays means that other people aren't allowed to have fun the way they want to.
One is a gamer. The other is a petulant child.
Sorry, but petulant children exist on both sides of the argument. Trying to simply belittle anyone on one side of the fence really doesn't win you any points. There are plenty of people that have come to the forum and asked for the ability to force someone docked to eject from a station so that the station camp can pod them while they have no chance for example.
Not to say you are right or wrong in this particular case, didn't bother reading the other guys posting history, but speaking in general terms, which you attempted to speak in you are wrong. |

Caldari Citizen 0200123234
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
848
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Posted - 2014.04.26 11:41:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
How disingenuous. We aren't the ones who threw away live and let live, tried to campaign to CCP to legislate other people's playstyles out of existence. That would be your side.
"I want PvP to happen" vs. "I want PvP to NEVER happen" is not this clash of equal philosophies like you would like to portray.
One wants to play the game the way the game exists. The other one wants to change the game, because he has chosen a zero sum equation. He has staked the claim that the way he plays means that other people aren't allowed to have fun the way they want to.
One is a gamer. The other is a petulant child.
Disagree with this too. Feel free to link info to this "campaign" you speak of. I've not said that the game needs to be changed, certainly not to the extent that one group would be forced out over the other. There are some out there that would think this way, from both sides of this argument, but they are wrong. That would harm EvE as a whole, we need more players, not less. I find its mostly the highsec hating crowd that attempts to force their opinion, the carebears of highsec don't even come onto these forums, for the most part, they just want to be left alone. Those that do are simply trying to defend their solo-play from those that would see it destroyed for their own selfish gratification. I ask again, why do these players even go to highsec, if they hate that area so much? Why become gank-bears?
There are plenty of players that play EvE and achieve zero PvP. You act like it is impossible, and yet it has been the case since day one, as much as it is today, and it will continue to be the case into the future. As i've made clear i think that both hardened PvP players can get their kicks from the game, and so can everyone else that doesn't enjoy that aspect. Thats what makes EvE stand apart from others games, it caters to all play styles. Not everyone enjoys ships exploding!
You'll notice no-one argues against my opinions on ganking, that it's EvE on easy mode, and that its completely risk free. Thats because everyone knows thats the case. It would be refreshing for gankers to admit that, for a change. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5373
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Posted - 2014.04.26 11:46:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote: I find its mostly the highsec hating crowd that attempts to force their opinion, the carebears of highsec don't even come onto these forums, for the most part, they just want to be left alone.
Lolwhat.
Quote: Those that do are simply trying to defend their solo-play from those that would see it destroyed for their own selfish gratification. I ask again, why do these players even go to highsec, if they hate that area so much?
There is no "solo-play" in an MMORPG. It's sheer entitlement to think otherwise, and I will happily continue to disabuse people of that false notion. In fact, to answer your question, that's why I live in highsec. To bring massively multiplayer content to people who try and deny that such a thing exists.
Because I hate the way they bleat and moan about how they think they should be left alone. If they really do think that, then they are playing the wrong game. Star Trek "Online" is: ------> That way. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
849
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Posted - 2014.04.26 13:25:00 -
[335] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote: There is no "solo-play" in an MMORPG. It's sheer entitlement to think otherwise, and I will happily continue to disabuse people of that false notion. In fact, to answer your question, that's why I live in highsec. To bring massively multiplayer content to people who try and deny that such a thing exists.
Because I hate the way they bleat and moan about how they think they should be left alone. If they really do think that, then they are playing the wrong game. Star Trek "Online" is: ------> That way.
Well you're entitled to your opinion. Those that play EvE solo for all the things that have nothing to do with PvP will continue to do so regardless. You should continue to express your displeasure with such players in the time honoured EvE fashion, by exploding their ships! You can even consider this to be Elite PvP if you like!
Doesn't change the fact that ganking is nothing but zero-risk, maximum reward EvE on easy-mode. But hey, not everyone plays computer games for the challenge. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5395
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Posted - 2014.04.26 13:30:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote: Doesn't change the fact that ganking is nothing but zero-risk, maximum reward EvE on easy-mode. But hey, not everyone plays computer games for the challenge.
Ganking is actually 100% risk. CONCORD will destroy your ship 100% of the time.
Taking steps to mitigate the effect of that risk and profit from it is EVE gameplay in the truest fashion. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
370
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Posted - 2014.04.26 13:39:00 -
[337] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote: You'll notice no-one argues against my opinions on ganking, that it's EvE on easy mode, and that its completely risk free. Thats because everyone knows thats the case. It would be refreshing for gankers to admit that, for a change.
How is a 100% chance to lose your ship risk free? Just because they choose to legislate for that risk, and factor it in to their "cost of doing buisness" does not make it any less of a ship loss.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10543
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Posted - 2014.04.26 13:46:00 -
[338] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote:Doesn't change the fact that ganking is nothing but zero-risk, maximum reward EvE on easy-mode. But hey, not everyone plays computer games for the challenge.
The only ones who view it this way have never actually done any suicide ganking. There is plenty of risk in for-profit suicide ganking: you can fail a gank and not get anything, you can successfully gank a target and the valuable loot is evaporated by the 50% drop chance, you can successfully gank a target and get a desirable drop but have your hauler blown up when it goes suspect for looting the wreck, the wreck can be ninja-looted, etc etc
But I guess you'll handwave all of those things or ignore them and say "WELL THAT DOESN'T MAKE SUICIDE GANKING RISK FREE" Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5397
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Posted - 2014.04.26 13:52:00 -
[339] - Quote
Andski wrote: But I guess you'll handwave all of those things or ignore them and say "WELL THAT DOESN'T MAKE SUICIDE GANKING RISK FREE"
Of course he will, his agenda demands it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10545
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Posted - 2014.04.26 14:05:00 -
[340] - Quote
It's literally the riskiest profession in the game when you think about it: success depends on a random number generator, you can fail simply because somebody with ECM or damps was nearby, getting ISK out of it requires you to haul that valuable loot and risk getting suicide ganked yourself, etc. but idiots will ignore the actual work involved in suicide ganking and pretend that ISK shows up in your wallet the moment you lock a freighter and press F1, because they have an agenda for removing all PvP from hisec. Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18130
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:10:00 -
[341] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote: Those that play EvE solo for all the things that have nothing to do with PvP will continue to do so regardless. Bearing in mind that PvP is not limited to explosions, which things in Eve have nothing to do with PvP?
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
468
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:30:00 -
[342] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Xen Solarus wrote: Those that play EvE solo for all the things that have nothing to do with PvP will continue to do so regardless. Bearing in mind that PvP is not limited to explosions, which things in Eve have nothing to do with PvP?
Being AFK tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1000
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:34:00 -
[343] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Xen Solarus wrote: Those that play EvE solo for all the things that have nothing to do with PvP will continue to do so regardless. Bearing in mind that PvP is not limited to explosions, which things in Eve have nothing to do with PvP? Being AFK that post Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á The Best Quote EVER Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
468
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:41:00 -
[344] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Xen Solarus wrote: Those that play EvE solo for all the things that have nothing to do with PvP will continue to do so regardless. Bearing in mind that PvP is not limited to explosions, which things in Eve have nothing to do with PvP? Being AFK that post
O yea that time I totally slammed you by backing you into a corner where you couldn't properly answer a yes or no question? totally slammed.
#thebest tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4909
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Posted - 2014.04.26 16:56:00 -
[345] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Xen Solarus wrote: Those that play EvE solo for all the things that have nothing to do with PvP will continue to do so regardless. Bearing in mind that PvP is not limited to explosions, which things in Eve have nothing to do with PvP? Being AFK
Obligatory: The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
760
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:45:00 -
[346] - Quote
Andski wrote:Xen Solarus wrote:Doesn't change the fact that ganking is nothing but zero-risk, maximum reward EvE on easy-mode. But hey, not everyone plays computer games for the challenge. The only ones who view it this way have never actually done any suicide ganking. There is plenty of risk in for-profit suicide ganking: you can fail a gank and not get anything, you can successfully gank a target and the valuable loot is evaporated by the 50% drop chance, you can successfully gank a target and get a desirable drop but have your hauler blown up when it goes suspect for looting the wreck, the wreck can be ninja-looted, etc etc But I guess you'll handwave all of those things or ignore them and say "WELL THAT DOESN'T MAKE SUICIDE GANKING RISK FREE"
Yeah like that one freighter I watched yesterday survive like 4 attempts on it lol And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1328
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:18:00 -
[347] - Quote
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Xen Solarus wrote: You'll notice no-one argues against my opinions on ganking, that it's EvE on easy mode, and that its completely risk free. Thats because everyone knows thats the case. It would be refreshing for gankers to admit that, for a change.
How is a 100% chance to lose your ship risk free? Just because they choose to legislate for that risk, and factor it in to their "cost of doing buisness" does not make it any less of a ship loss.
Who gives a **** about losing a cat. You can take part in a gank for less than a million isk. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
471
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:20:00 -
[348] - Quote
It's not a risk if you understand it to be a guaranteed loss.
it's only a risk if there's a potential you will/won't lose your ship.
If it's a gauranteed loss, then it's just the cost, not a risk. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5090
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:25:00 -
[349] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:It's not a risk if you understand it to be a guaranteed loss.
it's only a risk if there's a potential you will/won't lose your ship.
If it's a gauranteed loss, then it's just the cost, not a risk.
google provided me with this definition of risk: "the possibility of financial loss." until suicide ganking instantly refunds you the cost of your ship+fittings upon being concorded.... there is risk. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
471
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:30:00 -
[350] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:It's not a risk if you understand it to be a guaranteed loss.
it's only a risk if there's a potential you will/won't lose your ship.
If it's a gauranteed loss, then it's just the cost, not a risk. google provided me with this definition of risk: "the possibility of financial loss." until suicide ganking instantly refunds you the cost of your ship+fittings upon being concorded.... there is risk.
It's called a suicide gank because your dying isn't a "risk", it's an understanding that your ship will be destroyed.
Because you understand you will die, a "suicide" gank, then it's essentially paying for a gank.
tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5090
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:32:00 -
[351] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:It's not a risk if you understand it to be a guaranteed loss.
it's only a risk if there's a potential you will/won't lose your ship.
If it's a gauranteed loss, then it's just the cost, not a risk. google provided me with this definition of risk: "the possibility of financial loss." until suicide ganking instantly refunds you the cost of your ship+fittings upon being concorded.... there is risk. It's called a suicide gank because your dying isn't a "risk", it's an understanding that your ship will be destroyed. Because you understand you will die, a "suicide" gank, then it's essentially paying for a gank.
yes, and when i pay to play a hand of poker i'm still taking a risk that i'm getting something out of it.
making a payment =/= removal of risk. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
471
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:35:00 -
[352] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:It's not a risk if you understand it to be a guaranteed loss.
it's only a risk if there's a potential you will/won't lose your ship.
If it's a gauranteed loss, then it's just the cost, not a risk. google provided me with this definition of risk: "the possibility of financial loss." until suicide ganking instantly refunds you the cost of your ship+fittings upon being concorded.... there is risk. It's called a suicide gank because your dying isn't a "risk", it's an understanding that your ship will be destroyed. Because you understand you will die, a "suicide" gank, then it's essentially paying for a gank. yes, and when i pay to play a hand of poker i'm still taking a risk that i'm getting something out of it. making a payment =/= removal of risk.
No, it's more like going to the grocery store and purchasing a gallon of milk for $1.69. Getting that gallon of milk wasn't a risk because you understood you were going to have to pay for it. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5092
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:41:00 -
[353] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:It's not a risk if you understand it to be a guaranteed loss.
it's only a risk if there's a potential you will/won't lose your ship.
If it's a gauranteed loss, then it's just the cost, not a risk. google provided me with this definition of risk: "the possibility of financial loss." until suicide ganking instantly refunds you the cost of your ship+fittings upon being concorded.... there is risk. It's called a suicide gank because your dying isn't a "risk", it's an understanding that your ship will be destroyed. Because you understand you will die, a "suicide" gank, then it's essentially paying for a gank. yes, and when i pay to play a hand of poker i'm still taking a risk that i'm getting something out of it. making a payment =/= removal of risk. No, it's more like going to the grocery store and purchasing a gallon of milk for $1.69. Getting that gallon of milk wasn't a risk because you understood you were going to have to pay for it.
no it isn't. when i go to the grocery store and purchase a gallon of milk, there isn't a 50% chance that i don't get a gallon of milk. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10548
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:45:00 -
[354] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:It's called a suicide gank because your dying isn't a "risk", it's an understanding that your ship will be destroyed.
Because you understand you will die, a "suicide" gank, then it's essentially paying for a gank.
so by dumb pubbie logic, a 95% chance of losing your ship upon engaging would not be "essentially paying for a gank" but just really risky Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:48:00 -
[355] - Quote
notice how divine entervention completely avoids discussing the real risks in suicide ganking (failing the gank entirely, loot roll going against your favor, losing the hauler moving the goods to market) and sticks to the concord loss Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Dave stark
5093
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:48:00 -
[356] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
no it isn't. when i go to the grocery store and purchase a gallon of milk, there isn't a 50% chance that i don't get a gallon of milk.
Well then maybe you should considering going to a store that gaurantees they'll sell you what you pay for. (Better fit your suicide gank ship, Bring a better suicide gank ship, or bring friends with good enough gank ships) The only reason the "risk" exists is because you don't take the steps necessary to ensure it's being successful. What you're describing isn't a "suicide gank". It's a "stupid gank" attempt.
no, the reason risk exists is because dropped cargo and modules have a 50% drop rate, not a 100% drop rate.
are you being intentionally dense or are you clueless about game mechanics? |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:50:00 -
[357] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:The only reason the "risk" exists is because you don't take the steps necessary to ensure it's being successful.
What you're describing isn't a "suicide gank". It's a "stupid gank" attempt.
right
so tell us, guy who doesn't know a damn thing about suicide ganking, how do you take the necessary steps to ensure that the wreck has the valuable goodies you're looking for?
let me help you because you don't seem to understand these things: when you blow up a player's ship, each module and stack in its cargo has a 50% chance of surviving the destruction of the ship and being in the resulting wreck Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:53:00 -
[358] - Quote
like I said earlier: people who have zero experience with suicide ganking seem to believe that isk shows up in your wallet the moment the target explodes Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5414
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:53:00 -
[359] - Quote
Andski wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:The only reason the "risk" exists is because you don't take the steps necessary to ensure it's being successful.
What you're describing isn't a "suicide gank". It's a "stupid gank" attempt. right so tell us, guy who doesn't know a damn thing about suicide ganking, how do you take the necessary steps to ensure that the wreck has the valuable goodies you're looking for? let me help you because you don't seem to understand these things: when you blow up a player's ship, each module and stack in its cargo has a 50% chance of surviving the destruction of the ship and being in the resulting wreck
Heck I've been in on kills where the freighter/hauler itself has dropped less than 10% of it's value. The loot fairy will getcha. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Dave stark
5093
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:54:00 -
[360] - Quote
Andski wrote:like I said earlier: people who have zero experience with suicide ganking seem to believe that isk shows up in your wallet the moment the target explodes
inb4 bounty payouts. |
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
471
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:59:00 -
[361] - Quote
Hmm, I see what you mean.
I'm sorry, at first I thought you were doing "suicide ganks" for the purpose of killing another ship for the fun/enjoyment/sake of doing so.
I didn't take into consideration that your entire premise of a suicide gank was to "profit".
Sorry for assigning an honorable intention onto what clearly is not.
Enjoy your "profiting". tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5094
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:04:00 -
[362] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote: Hmm, I see what you mean.
I'm sorry, at first I thought you were doing "suicide ganks" for the purpose of killing another ship for the fun/enjoyment/sake of doing so.
I didn't take into consideration that your entire premise of a suicide gank was to "profit".
Sorry for assigning an honorable intention onto what clearly is not.
Enjoy your "profiting".
but risk is defined as "the possibility of financial loss." so it's pretty obvious that you have to consider module/loot drops. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:14:00 -
[363] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Hmm, I see what you mean.
I'm sorry, at first I thought you were doing "suicide ganks" for the purpose of killing another ship for the fun/enjoyment/sake of doing so.
I didn't take into consideration that your entire premise of a suicide gank was to "profit".
Sorry for assigning an honorable intention onto what clearly is not.
Enjoy your "profiting".
but risk is defined as "the possibility of financial loss." so it's pretty obvious that you have to consider module/loot drops.
"possibility of losing something of value"
You attribute your own meaning to what has value.
Your value is placed on "financial".
Also, if I go outside when it's forecasted to rain without an umbrella, I run the "risk" of getting wet. That's not a financial risk. So risk can very well apply to other "values". tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:16:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Hmm, I see what you mean.
I'm sorry, at first I thought you were doing "suicide ganks" for the purpose of killing another ship for the fun/enjoyment/sake of doing so.
I didn't take into consideration that your entire premise of a suicide gank was to "profit".
Sorry for assigning an honorable intention onto what clearly is not.
Enjoy your "profiting".
but risk is defined as "the possibility of financial loss." so it's pretty obvious that you have to consider module/loot drops. "possibility of losing something of value" You attribute your own meaning to what has value. Your value is placed on "financial". Also, if I go outside when it's forecasted to rain without an umbrella, I run the "risk" of getting wet. That's not a financial risk. So risk can very well apply to other "values".
no, don't change the quote to suit your argument.
google states "the possibility of financial loss." NOT "possibility of losing something of value"
if you get 0 drops because the loot fairy says no, which has a statistical probability >0, then you have incurred a financial loss. because it's a fact that the probability of a loot drop worth less than your ganking ship is >0 that means all suicide ganks involve risk.
there's no opinions here, there's no subjectivity. it's an objective fact. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:18:00 -
[365] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Hmm, I see what you mean.
I'm sorry, at first I thought you were doing "suicide ganks" for the purpose of killing another ship for the fun/enjoyment/sake of doing so.
I didn't take into consideration that your entire premise of a suicide gank was to "profit".
Sorry for assigning an honorable intention onto what clearly is not.
Enjoy your "profiting".
but risk is defined as "the possibility of financial loss." so it's pretty obvious that you have to consider module/loot drops. "possibility of losing something of value" You attribute your own meaning to what has value. Your value is placed on "financial". Also, if I go outside when it's forecasted to rain without an umbrella, I run the "risk" of getting wet. That's not a financial risk. So risk can very well apply to other "values". no, don't change the quote to suit your argument. google states "the possibility of financial loss." NOT "possibility of losing something of value" if you get 0 drops because the loot fairy says no, which has a statistical probability >0, then you have incurred a financial loss. because it's a fact that the probability of a loot drop worth less than your ganking ship is >0 that means all suicide ganks involve risk. there's no opinions here, there's no subjectivity. it's an objective fact.
So the only possibility of risk involves a potential financial loss?
What about before money was invented? If a caveman fell asleep in the Savanah, he ran a real risk of being attacked by an animal.
What's the financial loss associated with that? Isn't that a risk?
tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5098
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:19:00 -
[366] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Hmm, I see what you mean.
I'm sorry, at first I thought you were doing "suicide ganks" for the purpose of killing another ship for the fun/enjoyment/sake of doing so.
I didn't take into consideration that your entire premise of a suicide gank was to "profit".
Sorry for assigning an honorable intention onto what clearly is not.
Enjoy your "profiting".
but risk is defined as "the possibility of financial loss." so it's pretty obvious that you have to consider module/loot drops. "possibility of losing something of value" You attribute your own meaning to what has value. Your value is placed on "financial". Also, if I go outside when it's forecasted to rain without an umbrella, I run the "risk" of getting wet. That's not a financial risk. So risk can very well apply to other "values". no, don't change the quote to suit your argument. google states "the possibility of financial loss." NOT "possibility of losing something of value" if you get 0 drops because the loot fairy says no, which has a statistical probability >0, then you have incurred a financial loss. because it's a fact that the probability of a loot drop worth less than your ganking ship is >0 that means all suicide ganks involve risk. there's no opinions here, there's no subjectivity. it's an objective fact. So the only possibility of risk involves a potential financial loss? What about before money was invented? If a caveman fell asleep in the Savanah, he ran a real risk of being attacked by an animal. What's the financial loss associated with that? Isn't that a risk?
alternatively, you could just stop trying to change the subject.
you are wrong. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:21:00 -
[367] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:
alternatively, you could just stop trying to change the subject.
you are wrong.
You're stating the only possible definition for risk is "financial loss".
I've given you proof that there are other definitions of risk, yet you ignore them.
You are wrong in your belief that "risk" only pertains to financial loss. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5098
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:22:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
alternatively, you could just stop trying to change the subject.
you are wrong.
You're stating the only possible definition for risk is "financial loss". I've given you proof that there are other definitions of risk, yet you ignore them. You are wrong in your belief that "risk" only pertains to financial loss.
as long as a definition fits, there is risk. doesn't matter what the other definitions are.
as long as one definition fits, risk exists, and you are wrong. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:24:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
alternatively, you could just stop trying to change the subject.
you are wrong.
You're stating the only possible definition for risk is "financial loss". I've given you proof that there are other definitions of risk, yet you ignore them. You are wrong in your belief that "risk" only pertains to financial loss. as long as a definition fits, there is risk. doesn't matter what the other definitions are. as long as one definition fits, risk exists, and you are wrong.
Which I stated I was wrong concerning a "financial loss" risk not existing.
I also included an explanation that I thought another value other than "profit" was the motivation being used for suicide ganking, those other motivations pertaining to other definitions of risk.
Which you were then wrong when you stated the only definition of risk is "financial loss". tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:26:00 -
[370] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote: Hmm, I see what you mean.
I'm sorry, at first I thought you were doing "suicide ganks" for the purpose of killing another ship for the fun/enjoyment/sake of doing so.
I didn't take into consideration that your entire premise of a suicide gank was to "profit".
Sorry for assigning an honorable intention onto what clearly is not.
Enjoy your "profiting".
You can't frame suicide ganks done for fun or schadenfreude within the risk/reward model. There's obviously no risk if I decide to run around hisec with 20 destroyer alts killing anything that moves for fun, but it's going to be very costly and the reward of 'fun' doesn't necessarily benefit my status the way profit would. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:34:00 -
[371] - Quote
Andski wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Hmm, I see what you mean.
I'm sorry, at first I thought you were doing "suicide ganks" for the purpose of killing another ship for the fun/enjoyment/sake of doing so.
I didn't take into consideration that your entire premise of a suicide gank was to "profit".
Sorry for assigning an honorable intention onto what clearly is not.
Enjoy your "profiting".
You can't frame suicide ganks done for fun or schadenfreude within the risk/reward model. There's obviously no risk if I decide to run around hisec with 20 destroyer alts killing anything that moves for fun, but it's going to be very costly and the reward of 'fun' doesn't necessarily benefit my status the way profit would.
Apparently, you are financially motivated. While that is great and all that you yourself choose to place your sense of value solely on your ability to "profit" regarding finances, it should also be perfectly understandable that someone other than you could place his value system on something not centered around making isk.
Also, "fun" being a subjective term, it's allowed to be used subjectively, for each person, however he may so desire. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5099
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:35:00 -
[372] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
alternatively, you could just stop trying to change the subject.
you are wrong.
You're stating the only possible definition for risk is "financial loss". I've given you proof that there are other definitions of risk, yet you ignore them. You are wrong in your belief that "risk" only pertains to financial loss. as long as a definition fits, there is risk. doesn't matter what the other definitions are. as long as one definition fits, risk exists, and you are wrong. Which I stated I was wrong concerning a "financial loss" risk not existing. I also included an explanation that I thought another value other than "profit" was the motivation being used for suicide ganking, those other motivations pertaining to other definitions of risk. Which you were then wrong when you stated the only definition of risk is "financial loss".
the motive is irrelevant.
i didn't state it was the only definition of risk, so i wasn't wrong at all. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:40:00 -
[373] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Apparently, you are financially motivated. While that is great and all that you yourself choose to place your sense of value solely on your ability to "profit" regarding finances, it should also be perfectly understandable that someone other than you could place his value system on something not centered around making isk.
Also, "fun" being a subjective term, it's allowed to be used subjectively, for each person, however he may so desire.
So what risks could suicide ganking for ***** and giggles involve? Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Dave Stark
5099
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:41:00 -
[374] - Quote
Andski wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Apparently, you are financially motivated. While that is great and all that you yourself choose to place your sense of value solely on your ability to "profit" regarding finances, it should also be perfectly understandable that someone other than you could place his value system on something not centered around making isk.
Also, "fun" being a subjective term, it's allowed to be used subjectively, for each person, however he may so desire. So what risks could suicide ganking for ***** and giggles involve?
i dunno, some one jamming out half of your ships, or simply alphaing them off the field as soon as they turn criminal, or some one repping your target or.... do i really need to write out the entire damn list? |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:45:00 -
[375] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:i dunno, some one jamming out half of your ships, or simply alphaing them off the field as soon as they turn criminal, or some one repping your target or.... do i really need to write out the entire damn list?
True, but he's suggesting that there isn't enough risk in this activity. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:49:00 -
[376] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Andski wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Apparently, you are financially motivated. While that is great and all that you yourself choose to place your sense of value solely on your ability to "profit" regarding finances, it should also be perfectly understandable that someone other than you could place his value system on something not centered around making isk.
Also, "fun" being a subjective term, it's allowed to be used subjectively, for each person, however he may so desire. So what risks could suicide ganking for ***** and giggles involve? i dunno, some one jamming out half of your ships, or simply alphaing them off the field as soon as they turn criminal, or some one repping your target or.... do i really need to write out the entire damn list?
Well when not considering your goal is for profit, considering my initial argument was that there was no risk since my satement wasn't based around "financial", with proper planning you could destroy someone's ship with bringing more dps than their tank can sustain within the amount of time for concord to arrive.
My initial position was that there was no risk, because I was focusing on the task of ensuring a space ship destroyed without considering profit as what determined the risk.
Like I could go with 4 guys in catalysts to blow up 1 retriever. Sure, you might consider it "overkill" and "not worth it" considering it wont be as profitable, but if your only goal is to deny that person of their retriever without considering profit as the motivator, then it's very well possible it can be done without risk, and simply a cost. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5099
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:55:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Andski wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Apparently, you are financially motivated. While that is great and all that you yourself choose to place your sense of value solely on your ability to "profit" regarding finances, it should also be perfectly understandable that someone other than you could place his value system on something not centered around making isk.
Also, "fun" being a subjective term, it's allowed to be used subjectively, for each person, however he may so desire. So what risks could suicide ganking for ***** and giggles involve? i dunno, some one jamming out half of your ships, or simply alphaing them off the field as soon as they turn criminal, or some one repping your target or.... do i really need to write out the entire damn list? Well when not considering your goal is for profit, considering my initial argument was that there was no risk since my satement wasn't based around "financial", with proper planning you could destroy someone's ship with bringing more dps than their tank can sustain within the amount of time for concord to arrive. My initial position was that there was no risk, because I was focusing on the task of ensuring a space ship destroyed without considering profit as what determined the risk. Like I could go with 4 guys in catalysts to blow up 1 retriever. Sure, you might consider it "overkill" and "not worth it" considering it wont be as profitable, but if your only goal is to deny that person of their retriever without considering profit as the motivator, then it's very well possible it can be done without risk, and simply a cost.
your original statement was that suicide ganking is risk free, you've been proven wrong every post for the last page or two.
the probability of successfully suicide ganking a ship is NEVER 1. let me rephrase that for you; there is always risk. see, you're wrong! (still)
your initial position was wrong, regardless of any caveats you want to put on it.
you could go up to a retriever with 4 catalysts? now tell me, what's the probability that there's a cloaked falcon ready to jam you? >0. which means there's risk! |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:56:00 -
[378] - Quote
Like you right now, doing this burn jita.
A charon warps into system, you know it has zero fittings because they have zero fittings available to them, so you just assume the pilot has maxed skills to plan on the side of caution.
You then calculate how much DPS is needed to blow up the Charon before concord can kill you. You bring that much DPS, and you blow it up. Regardless of what it's cargo is, because you're not doing it for your own profit, you're doing it for their loss.
You make the isk to spend the isk, and because your cost to destroy that charon might be expensive, since it's being spread out amongst many, then comparing it to the costs of the charon, his loss is much greater because it's his personal loss, which could be your motivation.
But it's not, your goal is financial, and not pure destruction.
You're not really "burning jita", you're pirating in jita.
If you were "burning jita", your goal would simply be causing as much destruction as possible because you know you have more isk/resources/isk potential/resource potential to fall back on than those whose ships you're destroying. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5100
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:58:00 -
[379] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Like you right now, doing this burn jita.
A charon warps into system, you know it has zero fittings because they have zero fittings available to them, so you just assume the pilot has maxed skills to plan on the side of caution.
You then calculate how much DPS is needed to blow up the Charon before concord can kill you. You bring that much DPS, and then a bunch of white knights in jita alpha half of your catalysts, rep the freighter, and foil your efforts at a gank!
oh dear god, my argument just fell apart, but i thought i was right...
how could i have been so foolish?
glad that you've seen the error of your ways. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:00:00 -
[380] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Andski wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Apparently, you are financially motivated. While that is great and all that you yourself choose to place your sense of value solely on your ability to "profit" regarding finances, it should also be perfectly understandable that someone other than you could place his value system on something not centered around making isk.
Also, "fun" being a subjective term, it's allowed to be used subjectively, for each person, however he may so desire. So what risks could suicide ganking for ***** and giggles involve? i dunno, some one jamming out half of your ships, or simply alphaing them off the field as soon as they turn criminal, or some one repping your target or.... do i really need to write out the entire damn list? Well when not considering your goal is for profit, considering my initial argument was that there was no risk since my satement wasn't based around "financial", with proper planning you could destroy someone's ship with bringing more dps than their tank can sustain within the amount of time for concord to arrive. My initial position was that there was no risk, because I was focusing on the task of ensuring a space ship destroyed without considering profit as what determined the risk. Like I could go with 4 guys in catalysts to blow up 1 retriever. Sure, you might consider it "overkill" and "not worth it" considering it wont be as profitable, but if your only goal is to deny that person of their retriever without considering profit as the motivator, then it's very well possible it can be done without risk, and simply a cost. your original statement was that suicide ganking is risk free, you've been proven wrong every post for the last page or two. the probability of successfully suicide ganking a ship is NEVER 1. let me rephrase that for you; there is always risk. see, you're wrong! (still) your initial position was wrong, regardless of any caveats you want to put on it. you could go up to a retriever with 4 catalysts? now tell me, what's the probability that there's a cloaked falcon ready to jam you? >0. which means there's risk!
No, because if your goal wasn't your own profit, and merely the other person's loss, you could be bringing more than enough DPS to destroy every freighter regardless of what it's cargo is. But because your focusing on profit and not the destruction, you then assign a value to "profit" which then manifests a risk.
considering a charon has a set number of EHP, all you have to do is gain a high enough DPS to destroy that charon before concord can kill you. You could "over kill" because you know your organization can afford, while those you're destroying, do not have the same resources as you.
If your goal was purely the destruction of the freighters, and not the profit, you could be running a risk free operation because there is no risk, you gaurantee your ability to destroy the freighter by bringing more than enough DPS to destroy it. There would be a "cost" yes, but no risk, since you're accepting the loss of your ship as a necessary cost.
The only reason risk exists is because you're choosing to focus on the profit of the gank, and not focus on your imposing the destruction of the target's ship. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:05:00 -
[381] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Like you right now, doing this burn jita.
A charon warps into system, you know it has zero fittings because they have zero fittings available to them, so you just assume the pilot has maxed skills to plan on the side of caution.
You then calculate how much DPS is needed to blow up the Charon before concord can kill you. You bring that much DPS, and then a bunch of white knights in jita alpha half of your catalysts, rep the freighter, and foil your efforts at a gank!
oh dear god, my argument just fell apart, but i thought i was right...
how could i have been so foolish? glad that you've seen the error of your ways.
Bring enough DPS to kill the people who become vulnerable through healing the freighter your attacking. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5100
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:05:00 -
[382] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:No, because if your goal wasn't your own profit, and merely the other person's loss, you could be bringing more than enough DPS to destroy every freighter regardless of what it's cargo is. But because your focusing on profit and not the destruction, you then assign a value to "profit" which then manifests a risk.
considering a charon has a set number of EHP, all you have to do is gain a high enough DPS to destroy that charon before concord can kill you. You could "over kill" because you know your organization can afford, while those you're destroying, do not have the same resources as you.
If your goal was purely the destruction of the freighters, and not the profit, you could be running a risk free operation because there is no risk, you gaurantee your ability to destroy the freighter by bringing more than enough DPS to destroy it. There would be a "cost" yes, but no risk, since you're accepting the loss of your ship as a necessary cost.
The only reason risk exists is because you're choosing to focus on the profit of the gank, and not focus on your imposing the destruction of the target's ship.
except it doesn't matter how much dps you bring, if there's enough people there to stop you using that dps... we've just been through this in several posts. the chance of killing a freighter is NEVER 1.
except you can't factor in the unknown number of potential cloaked falcons, so your "overkill" excuse is irrelevant unless you can bring an impossible number of pilots to the fight.
no, you can't run a risk free operation. stop pretending you can, we've pointed out that you can't on several occasions now.
i haven't focused on the profit one bit and still proven you wrong. it all comes back to that simple fact that the probability of ganking a freighter is never 1. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:06:00 -
[383] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:No, because if your goal wasn't your own profit, and merely the other person's loss, you could be bringing more than enough DPS to destroy every freighter regardless of what it's cargo is. But because your focusing on profit and not the destruction, you then assign a value to "profit" which then manifests a risk.
considering a charon has a set number of EHP, all you have to do is gain a high enough DPS to destroy that charon before concord can kill you. You could "over kill" because you know your organization can afford, while those you're destroying, do not have the same resources as you.
If your goal was purely the destruction of the freighters, and not the profit, you could be running a risk free operation because there is no risk, you gaurantee your ability to destroy the freighter by bringing more than enough DPS to destroy it. There would be a "cost" yes, but no risk, since you're accepting the loss of your ship as a necessary cost.
The only reason risk exists is because you're choosing to focus on the profit of the gank, and not focus on your imposing the destruction of the target's ship. except it doesn't matter how much dps you bring, if there's enough people there to stop you using that dps... we've just been through this in several posts. the chance of killing a freighter is NEVER 1. except you can't factor in the unknown number of potential cloaked falcons, so your "overkill" excuse is irrelevant unless you can bring an impossible number of pilots to the fight. no, you can't run a risk free operation. stop pretending you can, we've pointed out that you can't on several occasions now. i haven't focused on the profit one bit and still proven you wrong. it all comes back to that simple fact that the probability of ganking a freighter is never 1.
So bring more. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5100
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:08:00 -
[384] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Like you right now, doing this burn jita.
A charon warps into system, you know it has zero fittings because they have zero fittings available to them, so you just assume the pilot has maxed skills to plan on the side of caution.
You then calculate how much DPS is needed to blow up the Charon before concord can kill you. You bring that much DPS, and then a bunch of white knights in jita alpha half of your catalysts, rep the freighter, and foil your efforts at a gank!
oh dear god, my argument just fell apart, but i thought i was right...
how could i have been so foolish? glad that you've seen the error of your ways. Bring enough DPS to kill the people who become vulnerable through healing the freighter your attacking.
but you can't because a bunch of falcons just uncloaked and jammed everyone. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:08:00 -
[385] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Like you right now, doing this burn jita.
A charon warps into system, you know it has zero fittings because they have zero fittings available to them, so you just assume the pilot has maxed skills to plan on the side of caution.
You then calculate how much DPS is needed to blow up the Charon before concord can kill you. You bring that much DPS, and then a bunch of white knights in jita alpha half of your catalysts, rep the freighter, and foil your efforts at a gank!
oh dear god, my argument just fell apart, but i thought i was right...
how could i have been so foolish? glad that you've seen the error of your ways. Bring enough DPS to kill the people who become vulnerable through healing the freighter your attacking. but you can't because a bunch of falcons just uncloaked and jammed everyone.
Increase your sensor strength tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5100
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:09:00 -
[386] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:So bring more.
can't, server node is at capacity. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:10:00 -
[387] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So bring more. can't, server node is at capacity.
Use ships with higher DPS capability. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5100
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:10:00 -
[388] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Like you right now, doing this burn jita.
A charon warps into system, you know it has zero fittings because they have zero fittings available to them, so you just assume the pilot has maxed skills to plan on the side of caution.
You then calculate how much DPS is needed to blow up the Charon before concord can kill you. You bring that much DPS, and then a bunch of white knights in jita alpha half of your catalysts, rep the freighter, and foil your efforts at a gank!
oh dear god, my argument just fell apart, but i thought i was right...
how could i have been so foolish? glad that you've seen the error of your ways. Bring enough DPS to kill the people who become vulnerable through healing the freighter your attacking. but you can't because a bunch of falcons just uncloaked and jammed everyone. Increase your sensor strength
doesn't matter, they all got lucky and landed jams anyway. |

Dave Stark
5100
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:11:00 -
[389] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So bring more. can't, server node is at capacity. Use ships with higher DPS capability.
we already are. we're literally using vindicators or something equally obscene and hypothetical. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:13:00 -
[390] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:
doesn't matter, they all got lucky and landed jams anyway.
learn to fit your ship tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5100
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:15:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
doesn't matter, they all got lucky and landed jams anyway.
learn to fit your ship
well at least we know you haven't got a clue how ecm works. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:17:00 -
[392] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
doesn't matter, they all got lucky and landed jams anyway.
learn to fit your ship well at least we know you haven't got a clue how ecm works.
no, i understand that regardless of how much sensor strength, there's always going to be a chance that your ship get jammed.
But your ships sensor strength compared to the ship's jamming strength, you can increase your resistance against jamming to be so high that the probability of "everyone" getting jammed is so low that it's more likely an asteroid slam into earth cutting out power. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5100
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:18:00 -
[393] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
doesn't matter, they all got lucky and landed jams anyway.
learn to fit your ship well at least we know you haven't got a clue how ecm works. no, i understand that regardless of how much sensor strength, there's always going to be a chance that your ship get jammed. But your ships sensor strength compared to the ship's jamming strength, you can increase your resistance against jamming to be so high that the probability of "everyone" getting jammed is so low that it's more likely an asteroid slam into earth cutting out power.
but you admit that it's not a chance of 0, and therefore there is risk present?
good, glad you've finally admitted it. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:20:00 -
[394] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
doesn't matter, they all got lucky and landed jams anyway.
learn to fit your ship well at least we know you haven't got a clue how ecm works. no, i understand that regardless of how much sensor strength, there's always going to be a chance that your ship get jammed. But your ships sensor strength compared to the ship's jamming strength, you can increase your resistance against jamming to be so high that the probability of "everyone" getting jammed is so low that it's more likely an asteroid slam into earth cutting out power. but you admit that it's not a chance of 0, and therefore there is risk present? good, glad you've finally admitted it.
It's so small of a risk that it's negligible. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5101
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:22:00 -
[395] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:It's so small of a risk that it's negligible.
but still large enough that you're wrong. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:23:00 -
[396] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:It's so small of a risk that it's negligible. but still large enough that you're wrong.
I disagree tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5101
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:24:00 -
[397] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:It's so small of a risk that it's negligible. but still large enough that you're wrong. I disagree
you're welcome to, but >0 isn't 0, and therefore you're still wrong. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:25:00 -
[398] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:It's so small of a risk that it's negligible. but still large enough that you're wrong. I disagree you're welcome to, but >0 isn't 0, and therefore you're still wrong.
The risk is so miniscule it's negligible. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5101
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:28:00 -
[399] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:It's so small of a risk that it's negligible. but still large enough that you're wrong. I disagree you're welcome to, but >0 isn't 0, and therefore you're still wrong. The risk is so miniscule it's negligible.
well you just admitted there's risk, so you know it's not risk free.
so we've managed to educate you, or you've stopped lying. either way, that's a positive. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:30:00 -
[400] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:
well you just admitted there's risk, so you know it's not risk free.
so we've managed to educate you, or you've stopped lying. either way, that's a positive.
Negligible risk, a risk so small you should not consider it as an influencing factor in how you make your decisions.
I welcome this opportunity to teach you how burn jita should properly be conducted. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5101
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:33:00 -
[401] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
well you just admitted there's risk, so you know it's not risk free.
so we've managed to educate you, or you've stopped lying. either way, that's a positive.
Negligible risk, a risk so small you should not consider it as an influencing factor in how you make your decisions. I welcome this opportunity to teach you how burn jita should properly be conducted.
a risk that still means you're wrong, and ganking isn't risk free.
i welcome this opportunity for you to stop while you're not quite as behind as you were when you were incorrectly spewing that ganking is risk free. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
|
Posted - 2014.04.26 23:36:00 -
[402] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
well you just admitted there's risk, so you know it's not risk free.
so we've managed to educate you, or you've stopped lying. either way, that's a positive.
Negligible risk, a risk so small you should not consider it as an influencing factor in how you make your decisions. I welcome this opportunity to teach you how burn jita should properly be conducted. a risk that still means you're wrong, and ganking isn't risk free. i welcome this opportunity for you to stop while you're not quite as behind as you were when you were incorrectly spewing that ganking is risk free.
It's negligible enough to not let it be an influencing factor in how you make your decisions. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5101
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:38:00 -
[403] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
well you just admitted there's risk, so you know it's not risk free.
so we've managed to educate you, or you've stopped lying. either way, that's a positive.
Negligible risk, a risk so small you should not consider it as an influencing factor in how you make your decisions. I welcome this opportunity to teach you how burn jita should properly be conducted. a risk that still means you're wrong, and ganking isn't risk free. i welcome this opportunity for you to stop while you're not quite as behind as you were when you were incorrectly spewing that ganking is risk free. It's negligible enough to not let it be an influencing factor in how you make your decisions.
i see, instead of stopping you're just going to repeat irrelevant phrases. |

Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
884
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:39:00 -
[404] - Quote
This argument is going places
In other news my "S" key broke and I had to map s to one of my function keys.. FML
Oh yeah and I watched a big ship pop yesterday   |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:42:00 -
[405] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:
well you just admitted there's risk, so you know it's not risk free.
so we've managed to educate you, or you've stopped lying. either way, that's a positive.
Negligible risk, a risk so small you should not consider it as an influencing factor in how you make your decisions. I welcome this opportunity to teach you how burn jita should properly be conducted. a risk that still means you're wrong, and ganking isn't risk free. i welcome this opportunity for you to stop while you're not quite as behind as you were when you were incorrectly spewing that ganking is risk free. It's negligible enough to not let it be an influencing factor in how you make your decisions. i see, instead of stopping you're just going to repeat irrelevant phrases.
It's only irrelevant to you because you choose to regard it as so since you choose to not accept that the risk is negligible enough to not be an influencing factor.
How you feel about it doesn't negate that the risk is negligible. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
845
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:44:00 -
[406] - Quote
Great.
Page 13.
Top 9 posts are blocked.
And then people ask me why I block Dave. Nobody asks me why I block Divine, though.
Weird, isn't it?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Dave Stark
5101
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:44:00 -
[407] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:It's only irrelevant because you choose to regard it as so since you choose to not accept that the risk is negligible enough to not be an influencing factor.
How you feel about it doesn't negate that the risk is negligible.
actually, it's because it is irrelevant.
the question was is the risk 0, or not 0. we established that it was not 0 and forced the conclusion that you were wrong. you blithering about the size of not 0 doesn't make a **** of difference. the outcome doesn't change depending on the size of not 0.
you can carry on crying about it for the next 10 pages, the fact will remain that you were wrong and ganking isn't risk free. please get over it. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4921
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:45:00 -
[408] - Quote
I'll just leave this here.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Dave Stark
5101
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:46:00 -
[409] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:I'll just leave this here. oh god, my sides. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10552
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:53:00 -
[410] - Quote
also before you say "just fit a tracking computer" remember that 1) we're already countering potential ECM and 2) tracking computers don't do a damn thing when you're getting hit by infowar bonused tracking disruptors Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:54:00 -
[411] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:It's only irrelevant because you choose to regard it as so since you choose to not accept that the risk is negligible enough to not be an influencing factor.
How you feel about it doesn't negate that the risk is negligible. actually, it's because it is irrelevant. the question was is the risk 0, or not 0. we established that it was not 0 and forced the conclusion that you were wrong. you blithering about the size of not 0 doesn't make a **** of difference. the outcome doesn't change depending on the size of not 0. you can carry on crying about it for the next 10 pages, the fact will remain that you were wrong and ganking isn't risk free. please get over it. If you make the proper decisions you can make the risk so negligible that it's not worth considering. Because of your failure to properly plan, you create your own risk. If you planned properly, you could avoid all realistic possibilities that would lead to your failure. changing the subject doesn't make you less wrong. edit: actually, it might make you less wrong... but you're still wrong.
Nothing you've said negates the fact that you could plan your operations in a manner that ensure success(if the measure of success were the destruction of the ship instead of profiting in isk through it's destruction).
considering that it will never be possible to reach a 100%, choosing the plan that is 99.99999% effective is the best you can hope for, which means in the realm of reality, it's risk-free.
tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5102
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:54:00 -
[412] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:It's only irrelevant because you choose to regard it as so since you choose to not accept that the risk is negligible enough to not be an influencing factor.
How you feel about it doesn't negate that the risk is negligible. actually, it's because it is irrelevant. the question was is the risk 0, or not 0. we established that it was not 0 and forced the conclusion that you were wrong. you blithering about the size of not 0 doesn't make a **** of difference. the outcome doesn't change depending on the size of not 0. you can carry on crying about it for the next 10 pages, the fact will remain that you were wrong and ganking isn't risk free. please get over it. If you make the proper decisions you can make the risk so negligible that it's not worth considering. Because of your failure to properly plan, you create your own risk. If you planned properly, you could avoid all realistic possibilities that would lead to your failure. changing the subject doesn't make you less wrong. edit: actually, it might make you less wrong... but you're still wrong. Nothing you've said negates the fact that you could plan your operations in a manner that ensure success(if the measure of success were the destruction of the ship instead of profiting in isk through it's destruction). considering that it will never be possible to reach a 100%, choosing the plan that is 99.99999% effective is the best you can hope for, which means in the realm of reality, it's risk-free. actually, the very fact that you can't ensure success as we've proven several times negates it. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
848
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:57:00 -
[413] - Quote
lol Doc Fury won page 13! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10554
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:57:00 -
[414] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:considering that it will never be possible to reach a 100%, choosing the plan that is 99.99999% effective is the best you can hope for, which means in the realm of reality, it's risk-free.
But you can't get anywhere near a 99.99999% chance of success because you can't discount the possibility that you'll run into skilled anti-gankers who ruin your gank. If profit is your goal, you can't avoid the 50% loot chance.
And all of your mitigation strategies are what you'd hear from those with no experience in suicide ganking. "Increase your sensor strength" is fine and dandy if you're expecting ECM, but others (i.e. bring more ships) are not realistic because suicide ganking is not a zero-sum game. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1379
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:00:00 -
[415] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:If you make the proper decisions you can make the risk so negligible that it's not worth considering. Because of your failure to properly plan, you create your own risk. (well you could if your motivation wasn't profit, and instead the destruction of others ships)
If you planned properly, you could avoid all realistic possibilities that would lead to your failure. i acually totally agree with this statement.
If an industrial, mining or other juicy gank target acted this way, the bulk of the risk would be managed and they could ensure the gankers failure, if only more of them thought this way and made "proper decisions" that increased their chance of survival. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
|
Posted - 2014.04.27 00:05:00 -
[416] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote: actually, the very fact that you can't ensure success as we've proven several times negates it.
No, because your "proof" rests in an absolute which is impossible, while my suggestions are based in reality.
Your demanding absolutes cripples your argument, because there are no absolutes, and since there are no absolutes, addressing them as a method of proof pertaining to reality is a fallacious demand because it's impossible.
By your logic, you should not be pressing the keys on your keyboard, or using your computer because it may get angry and attack you, zapping you with electricity and smashing you over your head with the keyboard and mouse. You demand absolute proof? Absolutely prove that your computer will not do that. You can't absolutely prove it, but you can, within the realm of reality, accept that the likely hood of it happening is so negligible, that you do not consider it as a determining factor regarding your choice to use it.
tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5103
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:09:00 -
[417] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote: actually, the very fact that you can't ensure success as we've proven several times negates it.
No, because your "proof" rests in an absolute which is impossible, while my suggestions are based in reality. Your demanding absolutes cripples your argument, because there are no absolutes, and since there are no absolutes, addressing them as a method of proof pertaining to reality is a fallacious demand because it's impossible. By your logic, you should not be pressing the keys on your keyboard, or using your computer because it may get angry and attack you, zapping you with electricity and smashing you over your head with the keyboard and mouse. You demand absolute proof? Absolutely prove that your computer will not do that. You can't absolutely prove it, but you can, within the realm of reality, accept that the likely hood of it happening is so negligible, that you do not consider it as a determining factor regarding your choice to use it.
no, my proof is basic mathematics. which you seem to have an issue grasping.
also your absurd and ******** hypothetical doesn't follow my logic at all. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10555
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:11:00 -
[418] - Quote
The idea that an activity is risk-free because the risks can be mitigated is ludicrously false. That would make basically everything in EVE risk-free, except perhaps for, ironically, for-profit ganking (because of the hardcoded 50% loot chance) and invention (because of invention chance for which some items cannot be 100%) Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Qmamoto Kansuke
Killing with pink power
1
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:15:00 -
[419] - Quote
Whats the point of killing freighters carrying crap like this
https://zkillboard.com/kill/38453830/
I don't get it |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
|
Posted - 2014.04.27 00:16:00 -
[420] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote: actually, the very fact that you can't ensure success as we've proven several times negates it.
No, because your "proof" rests in an absolute which is impossible, while my suggestions are based in reality. Your demanding absolutes cripples your argument, because there are no absolutes, and since there are no absolutes, addressing them as a method of proof pertaining to reality is a fallacious demand because it's impossible. By your logic, you should not be pressing the keys on your keyboard, or using your computer because it may get angry and attack you, zapping you with electricity and smashing you over your head with the keyboard and mouse. You demand absolute proof? Absolutely prove that your computer will not do that. You can't absolutely prove it, but you can, within the realm of reality, accept that the likely hood of it happening is so negligible, that you do not consider it as a determining factor regarding your choice to use it. no, my proof is basic mathematics. which you seem to have an issue grasping. also your absurd and ******** hypothetical doesn't follow my logic at all.
O no, my hypothetical fits quite well. You've constantly demanded an absolute 0% risk suggestion, which is impossible, just like you can't prove that your computer attacking you is 0%.
It may be highly unlikely, yes. So unlikely that you shouldn't waste time considering that it's a real possibility, definitely. Yet you will hypocritically demand an absolute from someone else. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave stark
5103
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:17:00 -
[421] - Quote
because why not? |

Dave stark
5103
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:18:00 -
[422] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote: actually, the very fact that you can't ensure success as we've proven several times negates it.
No, because your "proof" rests in an absolute which is impossible, while my suggestions are based in reality. Your demanding absolutes cripples your argument, because there are no absolutes, and since there are no absolutes, addressing them as a method of proof pertaining to reality is a fallacious demand because it's impossible. By your logic, you should not be pressing the keys on your keyboard, or using your computer because it may get angry and attack you, zapping you with electricity and smashing you over your head with the keyboard and mouse. You demand absolute proof? Absolutely prove that your computer will not do that. You can't absolutely prove it, but you can, within the realm of reality, accept that the likely hood of it happening is so negligible, that you do not consider it as a determining factor regarding your choice to use it. no, my proof is basic mathematics. which you seem to have an issue grasping. also your absurd and ******** hypothetical doesn't follow my logic at all. O no, my hypothetical fits quite well. You've constantly demanded an absolute 0% risk suggestion, which is impossible, just like you can't prove that your computer attacking you is 0%. It may be highly unlikely, yes. So unlikely that you shouldn't waste time considering that it's a real possibility, definitely. Yet you will hypocritically demand an absolute from someone else.
no, i haven't demanded an absolute 0% risk.
i've spent 3 or so pages proving that there isn't such a thing, because you claimed there was. the very fact it's impossible was the point, the point being; you were wrong. |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
|
Posted - 2014.04.27 00:21:00 -
[423] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote: actually, the very fact that you can't ensure success as we've proven several times negates it.
No, because your "proof" rests in an absolute which is impossible, while my suggestions are based in reality. Your demanding absolutes cripples your argument, because there are no absolutes, and since there are no absolutes, addressing them as a method of proof pertaining to reality is a fallacious demand because it's impossible. By your logic, you should not be pressing the keys on your keyboard, or using your computer because it may get angry and attack you, zapping you with electricity and smashing you over your head with the keyboard and mouse. You demand absolute proof? Absolutely prove that your computer will not do that. You can't absolutely prove it, but you can, within the realm of reality, accept that the likely hood of it happening is so negligible, that you do not consider it as a determining factor regarding your choice to use it. no, my proof is basic mathematics. which you seem to have an issue grasping. also your absurd and ******** hypothetical doesn't follow my logic at all. O no, my hypothetical fits quite well. You've constantly demanded an absolute 0% risk suggestion, which is impossible, just like you can't prove that your computer attacking you is 0%. It may be highly unlikely, yes. So unlikely that you shouldn't waste time considering that it's a real possibility, definitely. Yet you will hypocritically demand an absolute from someone else. no, i haven't demanded an absolute 0% risk. i've spent 3 or so pages proving that there isn't such a thing, because you claimed there was. the very fact it's impossible was the point, the point being; you were wrong.
So you waste time trying to get proof of an absolute. You just sat here and spent like 3 pages or so worth of posting demanding I provide you with an absolute, which means an absolute is important to you.
I never brought up absolutes, you assigned the attribute of an absolute to my post of your own accord, showing a propensity to demand absolute proof.
You'll see I suggested multiple times that the risk was so negligible, that it wasn't worth considering as a determining factor you should use to influence your decisions. Yet even after my stating that repeatedly, you continued to demand an absolute.
ALSO, you stated that your own definition of "risk" as an absolute. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave stark
5103
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:23:00 -
[424] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:So you waste time trying to get proof of an absolute. You just sat here and spent like 3 pages or so worth of posting demanding I provide you with an absolute, which means an absolute is important to you.
I never brought up absolutes, you assigned the attribute of an absolute to my post of your own accord, showing a propensity to demand absolute proof.
You'll see I suggested multiple times that the risk was so negligible, that it wasn't worth considering as a determining factor you should use to influence your decisions. Yet even after my stating that repeatedly, you continued to demand an absolute.
ALSO, you stated that your own definition of "risk" as an absolute.
i didn't demand anything, i just pointed out that the chance of a sucessful gank wasn't 1, and you were wrong. you've just spent 3 pages not accepting that simple fact.
you were wrong, ganking isn't risk free. we've been over this like 6 times now. is french your first language? i speak french but you're having a lot of trouble with english at the moment it would seem. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5417
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:24:00 -
[425] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:
So you waste time trying to get proof of an absolute. You just sat here and spent like 3 pages or so worth of posting demanding I provide you with an absolute, which means an absolute is important to you.
Considering you kept reposting a false dichotomy for several pages earlier today? I find this incomparably amusing. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Qmamoto Kansuke
Killing with pink power
1
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:24:00 -
[426] - Quote
I can understand killing it if it was carrying say 150m+ But kills like this are just pure griefing.
How long before this kind of gameplay backfires and eve starts bleeding subs?See Darkfall for example bit more hardcore than eve and does it have large playerbase nope.The more hardcore eve becomes less people will play it.What's the point of holding these kinds of events if in the end your alliance is left to play with itself. |

Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
3105
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:28:00 -
[427] - Quote
Qmamoto Kansuke wrote:I can understand killing it if it was carrying say 150m+ But kills like this are just pure griefing. How long before this kind of gameplay backfires and eve starts bleeding subs?See Darkfall for example bit more hardcore than eve and does it have large playerbase nope.The more hardcore eve becomes less people will play it.What's the point of holding these kinds of events if in the end your alliance is left to play with itself. can we get more of these posts and less of divine intervention's boring garbage tia |

Dave Stark
5104
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:29:00 -
[428] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote: That quote doesn't illustrate your point, are you honestly unable to read english? |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
|
Posted - 2014.04.27 00:30:00 -
[429] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Yes you did.
And ganking can be risk-free (if your desire isn't profit but instead the gank itself) if you account for all of the REALISTIC possibilities that could prevent your gank from being successful. If you plan accordingly, you can eliminate risk. no, i didn't. no, it can't. we've just spent like 3 pages going over that. ganking is not risk free, you've even admitted it in several posts.
Right here is when you begin using an absolute as an attempt to prove me wrong: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4517025#post4517025
so
yes you did.
tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
849
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:31:00 -
[430] - Quote
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
I find it disturbing that freighter pilots just...
HELL, THEY JUST KEEP COMING!
They even undock from Jita 4-4!
And who gets the blame?
Btw, disco thrashers are awesome, but I can't fit a combat probe launcher onto it ...
Now I'm -9, 40+ KillRights on my ass and all I need is a Probe, two small smartbombs and said launcher.
I love this game! :D https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:33:00 -
[431] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: That quote doesn't illustrate your point, are you honestly unable to read english?
No, but I am honestly beginning to question your taking responsibility of your own actions. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Dave Stark
5104
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:33:00 -
[432] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Yes you did.
And ganking can be risk-free (if your desire isn't profit but instead the gank itself) if you account for all of the REALISTIC possibilities that could prevent your gank from being successful. If you plan accordingly, you can eliminate risk. no, i didn't. no, it can't. we've just spent like 3 pages going over that. ganking is not risk free, you've even admitted it in several posts. Right here is when you begin using an absolute as an attempt to prove me wrong: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4517025#post4517025so yes you did.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:42:00 -
[433] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:
no, that isn't an absolute. seriously, est-ce que parlez-vous anglais?
Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
But I'm not really going to beat myself up over what you think because you've demonstrated a propensity to demand absolute proof and then disconnect from your action of having demanded absolute proof.
I've even given you proof of your . . . . situation. and yet you still refuse to acknowledge it as something you've done, so after having provided proof with your continued denial in the face of the evidence, it's apparent there's no real point in talking with you.
So have fun! Try not to spend too much time planning an adequate defense against the possibility of your computer attacking you. Since you can't prove there's a 0% chance of it happening, needing a 0% chance of risk to be willing to make a decision. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5418
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:45:00 -
[434] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote: Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
LOL. Do you seriously not see the irony of you saying that? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:48:00 -
[435] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
LOL. Do you seriously not see the irony of you saying that?
Well considering that you're the one asking me, considering my opinion of you,
#dontcarewhatyouthink tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5418
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:50:00 -
[436] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
LOL. Do you seriously not see the irony of you saying that? Well considering that you're the one asking me, considering my opinion of you, #dontcarewhatyouthink
Doublethink, got it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:50:00 -
[437] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
LOL. Do you seriously not see the irony of you saying that? Well considering that you're the one asking me, considering my opinion of you, #dontcarewhatyouthink Doublethink, got it.
Prove it. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5418
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:55:00 -
[438] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote: Prove it.
I already have. Thanks for playing though, you get a copy of the home version and some lovely coupons. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:57:00 -
[439] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Prove it.
I already have. Thanks for playing though, you get a copy of the home version and some lovely coupons.
I disagree tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5418
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:59:00 -
[440] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Prove it.
I already have. Thanks for playing though, you get a copy of the home version and some lovely coupons. I disagree
Of course you would. Doublethink will do that to a person. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:07:00 -
[441] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Prove it.
I already have. Thanks for playing though, you get a copy of the home version and some lovely coupons. I disagree Of course you would. Doublethink will do that to a person.
Provide the proof of your claim that I'm doublethinking, if not I'll consider your statement a troll. Stating you've provided it already is not providing the proof, considering you've disrespected me multiple times, this could be just another manifestation of your disrespecting me. Which considering the person you've proven yourself to be, your attempts to do so should not be considered as a valid reason to seriously consider the statements that you say to me. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5419
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:09:00 -
[442] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote: Provide the proof of your claim that I'm doublethinking.
Ok, look at your portrait, then click on your name.
Now go to "view posts". "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
850
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:11:00 -
[443] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Whatever, I've proven you to be someone who demands and relies on absolutes when you attempt to argue, so whatever opinion you wish to hold of me, feel free to hold it.
LOL. Do you seriously not see the irony of you saying that? I tried intoducing Irony to him, but he probably rejected her.
If you guys simply stopped quoting him, or even talking to him, we'd probably have half the amount of pages in some threads and actual discussions and content.
Instead, you people keep argueing with an egofreak.
Hi there, Divine! I'm not reading your crap! It's completely predictable! :D https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5419
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:24:00 -
[444] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote: And here from kaarous, we have an example of "Zerothink".
Don't worry about taking a picture, he does it all the time.
So you're suggesting that I don't exist? I have been accused of having some pretty weird supernatural powers on this forum lately, but this is a new one. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
474
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:25:00 -
[445] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: And here from kaarous, we have an example of "Zerothink".
Don't worry about taking a picture, he does it all the time.
So you're suggesting that I don't exist? I have been accused of having some pretty weird supernatural powers on this forum lately, but this is a new one.
See folks, told you he does it all the time.
Another example of Zerothink from kaarous. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Hlokk Skoggangur
Shoot Them Later Serious Callers Only
12
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:27:00 -
[446] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Provide the proof of your claim that I'm doublethinking.
Ok, look at your portrait, then click on your name. Now go to "view posts". Wow this is awesome. Thanks for showing me all of these different posts that prove I'm better than you.
Seriously? |

Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
736
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:29:00 -
[447] - Quote
Came to thread expecting morality discussion and a laughing fit
BUT OH GHAD MAKE IT STAHHP JUST STAHHP IT
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
855
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:31:00 -
[448] - Quote
Chopper Rollins wrote:Came to thread expecting morality discussion and a laughing fit
BUT OH GHAD MAKE IT STAHHP JUST STAHHP IT This guy keeps ruining every thread, because his sick ego makes others respond to it, slowly turning them into him.
Seriously, wtf is wrong with people?
He keeps ruining so many threads and STILL people keep talking to him! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
736
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:51:00 -
[449] - Quote
Please refrain from personal attacks on the ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff oh god i can't do it
go kill a freighter and release that frustration.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4935
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:59:00 -
[450] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Came to thread expecting morality discussion and a laughing fit
BUT OH GHAD MAKE IT STAHHP JUST STAHHP IT This guy keeps ruining every thread, because his sick ego makes others respond to it, slowly turning them into him. Seriously, wtf is wrong with people? He keeps ruining so many threads and STILL people keep talking to him!
Some snowflakes are more precious than others.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
855
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:59:00 -
[451] - Quote
Chopper Rollins wrote:Please refrain from personal attacks on the ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff oh god i can't do it
go kill a freighter and release that frustration.
Does whoring on killmails in disco thrashers count?
Doc Fury wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Came to thread expecting morality discussion and a laughing fit
BUT OH GHAD MAKE IT STAHHP JUST STAHHP IT This guy keeps ruining every thread, because his sick ego makes others respond to it, slowly turning them into him. Seriously, wtf is wrong with people? He keeps ruining so many threads and STILL people keep talking to him! Some snowflakes are more precious than others. You seem to be on a roll today.
I really enjoyed your posts on Page 13.
Spot on and hilarious! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
380

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Posted - 2014.04.27 03:23:00 -
[452] - Quote
Personal attack post deleted. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
380

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Posted - 2014.04.27 03:25:00 -
[453] - Quote
Personal attack post deleted. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
330
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Posted - 2014.04.27 04:49:00 -
[454] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Yes you did.
And ganking can be risk-free (if your desire isn't profit but instead the gank itself) if you account for all of the REALISTIC possibilities that could prevent your gank from being successful. If you plan accordingly, you can eliminate risk. no, i didn't. no, it can't. we've just spent like 3 pages going over that. ganking is not risk free, you've even admitted it in several posts. Right here is when you begin using an absolute as an attempt to prove me wrong: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4517025#post4517025so yes you did. no, that isn't an absolute. seriously, est-ce que parlez-vous anglais?
Sounds like you two girls are hittin it off. You should hook up. 
EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
690
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Posted - 2014.04.27 06:10:00 -
[455] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So you waste time trying to get proof of an absolute. You just sat here and spent like 3 pages or so worth of posting demanding I provide you with an absolute, which means an absolute is important to you.
I never brought up absolutes, you assigned the attribute of an absolute to my post of your own accord, showing a propensity to demand absolute proof.
You'll see I suggested multiple times that the risk was so negligible, that it wasn't worth considering as a determining factor you should use to influence your decisions. Yet even after my stating that repeatedly, you continued to demand an absolute.
ALSO, you stated that your own definition of "risk" as an absolute. i didn't demand anything, i just pointed out that the chance of a sucessful gank wasn't 1, and you were wrong. you've just spent 3 pages not accepting that simple fact. you were wrong, ganking isn't risk free. we've been over this like 6 times now. is french your first language? i speak french but you're having a lot of trouble with english at the moment it would seem. Yes you did. Right here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4517025#post4517025And ganking can be risk-free (if your desire isn't profit but instead the gank itself) if you account for all of the REALISTIC possibilities that could prevent your gank from being successful. If you plan accordingly, you can eliminate risk.
Ganking is not risk-free. You are literally a big red target for everyone to shoot at. I died (podded) to a disco battleship last night. When I go back to -10, I won't be allowed to fly around highsec without constantly watching my overview and bouncing around; and to be honest, it was kind of nice not having Facpo show up everywhere I land. I got the chance to duel my friend without having to get past lowsec gate camps, etc.
So, ganking definitely has its penalties and risk and the fact that you can't see that is because you've never really tried it long enough to appreciate the difference. Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1283
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Posted - 2014.04.27 10:10:00 -
[456] - Quote
The only problem with ISD doing a good job on the forums, alot of good tears and butthurt posts are removed. The Tears Must Flow |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
761
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:04:00 -
[457] - Quote
Vaju Enki wrote:The only problem with ISD doing a good job on the forums, alot of good tears and butthurt posts are removed.
Yes, but if they lose emotional control, dont forget those tears van get you banned And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |

Desivo Delta Visseroff
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
218
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:36:00 -
[458] - Quote
I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses ..............
*Time to make a T-Shirt I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses .............. |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
827
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:46:00 -
[459] - Quote
Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses  ..............  *Time to make a T-Shirt 
I also snagged around 50 corpses this weekend to add to my collection. The corpse market is going to be interesting for the next few weeks. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
761
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Posted - 2014.05.01 05:58:00 -
[460] - Quote
So what was the total? And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |
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