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Igorian	Posted - 2006.05.24 16:38:00 - [31] Just have someone bring in a covert, part it near the gankers and have your friends warp to you and kill them... The pirates run when any group of decent pilots get together, so most corps won't bother chasing them as they will just go to SS or log...bad game mechanics but Tun have done this for years very effectively. Instas in a armoured ship should see you through easily...indy without insta = dead meat and Tun's dinner :P
Don ZOLA	Posted - 2006.05.24 20:16:00 - [32] Originally by: Igorian Just have someone bring in a covert, part it near the gankers and have your friends warp to you and kill them... The pirates run when any group of decent pilots get together, so most corps won't bother chasing them as they will just go to SS or log...bad game mechanics but Tun have done this for years very effectively. Instas in a armoured ship should see you through easily...indy without insta = dead meat and Tun's dinner :P we never run when anyone has at least close numbers as we do. but mostly those bravy pirate hunters come with at least 2-5:1 odds. if u come with close numbers u can c us warp out just to dock and refit, after that sides r changed and we r hunters and anti pirates pray :D There are 2 rules in a successful life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know
ReaperOfSly	Posted - 2006.05.24 20:40:00 - [33] Took my covops in there the other day. Thought I'd be fine since I can warp cloaked. As soon as I came out of warp, I bumped into 5 corpses. Bye bye cloak, bye bye ship, bye bye pod . --------------------------------------------------------------------
Epsilon 1	Posted - 2006.05.25 01:15:00 - [34] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Took my covops in there the other day. Thought I'd be fine since I can warp cloaked. As soon as I came out of warp, I bumped into 5 corpses. Bye bye cloak, bye bye ship, bye bye pod . Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
IamBen	Posted - 2006.05.25 02:27:00 - [35] Rancers perfectly safe, its just Tundragon camping there.
Trigo	Posted - 2006.05.25 05:47:00 - [36] it would be nice to get there long enough to pick up the dead as there should be a cropse there that the owner really wants back. ------------------------------------ Booga No eve access tuesday 4pm to friday 9pm GMT
Spy4Hire	Posted - 2006.05.25 10:51:00 - [37] Originally by: kessah Mostly camped by a Smartbombing domi. Well, to SB he's got to have a modest tank to hold the gate guns, and the rest of the lows will be WCS. If they're using snipers you can bet that all of their lows are WCS. These are brave folks, these empire pir8s. If it has a gun pointed at them they're safed faster than a rabbit takes breath. I saw a Tundragon in 0.0 once... he went pop and I didn't even have to work at it.
Vargrh	Posted - 2006.05.25 11:58:00 - [38] Originally by: Espen You can buy a "How to pass Rancer" guide from me for only 400mill. Zeroh's Rancor Rampage..., dropped from -3.0 to -10.00 in a couple of hours when he joined you guys
Valhalior	Posted - 2006.05.25 20:30:00 - [39] Originally by: Don ZOLA Originally by: Igorian Just have someone bring in a covert, part it near the gankers and have your friends warp to you and kill them... The pirates run when any group of decent pilots get together, so most corps won't bother chasing them as they will just go to SS or log...bad game mechanics but Tun have done this for years very effectively. Instas in a armoured ship should see you through easily...indy without insta = dead meat and Tun's dinner :P we never run when anyone has at least close numbers as we do. but mostly those bravy pirate hunters come with at least 2-5:1 odds. if u come with close numbers u can c us warp out just to dock and refit, after that sides r changed and we r hunters and anti pirates pray :D I wonder if you allow your outnumbered victims to dock, regroup, refit and fight -------------------------------------------------------------
Constantine Arcanum	Posted - 2006.05.25 21:08:00 - [40] I was pirating in the Olettiers- Otou- Rorsins (espec. Thelan!) pipe BEFORE it was cool. -----------------------------------------------
Espen	Posted - 2006.05.25 21:15:00 - [41] Originally by: Spy4Hire Originally by: kessah Mostly camped by a Smartbombing domi. Well, to SB he's got to have a modest tank to hold the gate guns, and the rest of the lows will be WCS. If they're using snipers you can bet that all of their lows are WCS. These are brave folks, these empire pir8s. If it has a gun pointed at them they're safed faster than a rabbit takes breath. I saw a Tundragon in 0.0 once... he went pop and I didn't even have to work at it. Hi alt! My hero! <3<3<3<3♥♥♥
Sever Aldaria	Posted - 2006.05.25 22:07:00 - [42] If you're smart or lucky, then its not a problem passing through Rancer. If you're smart, you'll have instas and not use a slow warping ship, especially if you're warping from the Crielere stargate as Tundragons like to camp that gate with snipers. If you're lucky, you'll pass through durring their off hours. I ran a 2 jump trade route buying and selling in Rancer. Did that happily for a few hours w/out any troubles as Rancer was pretty empty. I got a laugh when passing through rancer once. Was comming from Crielere in my industrial. Jumped through into Rancer and there is RODREGUEZ(sp) in his sniping megathron again. Had my indy fitted up with nanofibers in the lows and warped away before he could get a shot off (which is probably all it would have taken). Maybe next time RODREGUEZ
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.05.26 00:25:00 - [43] Originally by: Sever Aldaria If you're smart or lucky, then its not a problem passing through Rancer. If you're smart, you'll have instas and not use a slow warping ship, especially if you're warping from the Crielere stargate as Tundragons like to camp that gate with snipers. If you're lucky, you'll pass through durring their off hours. I ran a 2 jump trade route buying and selling in Rancer. Did that happily for a few hours w/out any troubles as Rancer was pretty empty. I got a laugh when passing through rancer once. Was comming from Crielere in my industrial. Jumped through into Rancer and there is RODREGUEZ(sp) in his sniping megathron again. Had my indy fitted up with nanofibers in the lows and warped away before he could get a shot off (which is probably all it would have taken). Maybe next time RODREGUEZ I really hate when that happens....Im like OMG indy....Bastard!! In all honesty intys and covert ops drop way better loot than indys, but I always get this feeling when i see an indy
zeroh	Posted - 2006.05.26 20:20:00 - [44] Originally by: Vargrh Originally by: Espen You can buy a "How to pass Rancer" guide from me for only 400mill. Zeroh's Rancor Rampage..., dropped from -3.0 to -10.00 in a couple of hours when he joined you guys 150-200 killmails in last 2 days oh yes my dear vargh All things I Say is of my opinion and not of My corp Or alliance
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.05.26 22:49:00 - [45] Originally by: zeroh Originally by: Vargrh Originally by: Espen You can buy a "How to pass Rancer" guide from me for only 400mill. Zeroh's Rancor Rampage..., dropped from -3.0 to -10.00 in a couple of hours when he joined you guys 150-200 killmails in last 2 days oh yes my dear vargh EEEEKS, ur sig! we aint in an alliance and we as a corp will back anything you say, especially if it means a fight due to a **ed off forum ***
Baoghal	Posted - 2006.05.28 19:16:00 - [46] Heh - I was upset about being podded in Rancer till I read this thread. Don't give the gate campers any grief about what they're doing, just go around. It's part of the game. At least I was in a fairly stripped ship when I got podded. I would've paid ransom but I didn't even get the chance.
Zafriel	Posted - 2006.05.29 09:18:00 - [47] Originally by: Baoghal Heh - I was upset about being podded in Rancer till I read this thread. Don't give the gate campers any grief about what they're doing, just go around. It's part of the game. At least I was in a fairly stripped ship when I got podded. I would've paid ransom but I didn't even get the chance. There just is no time for ransome unless you offer first as soon as you jump in and is arranged whilest you are still cloaked Bikkini-clad ladies removed =P
Tasuric Orka	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:02:00 - [48] Originally by: Zafriel Originally by: Baoghal Heh - I was upset about being podded in Rancer till I read this thread. Don't give the gate campers any grief about what they're doing, just go around. It's part of the game. At least I was in a fairly stripped ship when I got podded. I would've paid ransom but I didn't even get the chance. There just is no time for ransome unless you offer first as soon as you jump in and is arranged whilest you are still cloaked Really? But you cant see what kind of ship the guy is in, how do you know what to ask? ________________________________________________ I survived Veto and all i got was this lame sig.
Zafriel	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:05:00 - [49] Originally by: Tasuric Orka Originally by: Zafriel Originally by: Baoghal Heh - I was upset about being podded in Rancer till I read this thread. Don't give the gate campers any grief about what they're doing, just go around. It's part of the game. At least I was in a fairly stripped ship when I got podded. I would've paid ransom but I didn't even get the chance. There just is no time for ransome unless you offer first as soon as you jump in and is arranged whilest you are still cloaked Really? But you cant see what kind of ship the guy is in, how do you know what to ask? Ask them....its not like they are in any possition to lie. Bikkini-clad ladies removed =P
Zafriel	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:11:00 - [50] Also like to add that nobody has ever lied about what ship they are in, so I dont actually know what I would do if they did...after blowing him up Id have to do a wee vote on ts whether to give him his cash back. Bikkini-clad ladies removed =P
madaluap	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:19:00 - [51] Edited by: madaluap on 29/05/2006 14:20:28 Originally by: kessah Mostly camped by a Smartbombing domi. So you'll need bm's even then you can still get popped if it's timed correctly. Am i the only one who finds it weird to use smartsbombs on domi, even without using drones, wouldnt a armageddon or apoc or anything with 8 highslots and a highbase cpu (raven) be better for this... _________________________________________________
JoeT	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:21:00 - [52] I heard Oulley was nicly camped for the last 2 weeks. --- Murder Murder, yes indeed, K-I-L-L-I-N-G ---
Cheyenne Shadowborn	Posted - 2006.05.29 14:35:00 - [53] Originally by: Thelia Nar So, being a new player, I was goofing around with the map, plotting courses all over, and I stumbled on this system, while trying to plot a course from Caldari to Minmatar space. It has an awful lot of ships and pods blown up in the last day, so I'm guessing it must be pirate central. Is it pretty much insta-death for a newer player like myself to venture through there? Would a quick frigate with some WCS help, or am I better off just going the long way around, if I wanted to visit Minmatar space? -Thelia I don't use insta-BMs or such on my noob characters. Too much hassle, too little fun. If you have no more than say 200.000 SP so your clones are still dirt cheap, get an Executioner for roughly 30k, insure to get even if killed, fit two Fiber-Structure-I thingies (gives you +40m/sec and 25% more agility to get into warp), and fit a 1mn afterburner. This setup warps as quickly as a shuttle, flies as fast as a shuttle (with navigation 3 or so) and flies almost 1000m/sec with the afterburner, but unlike the shuttle it has some cargo space. Oh, and the afterburner can be constantly on. You can avoid most gate camps in my humble experience by warping to 60 or 100 km or so (depending on how paranoid one feels) and if the gate is clear, approach it with almost 1000m/sec or warp to a nearby object, then warp back to the gate within 15km. After the jump if you jump right into a camp, if they don't have warp bubbles warp to an object close to the 12 o'clock position of your ship, if they have warp bubbles turn arround at near 1000m/sec and jump out again. At high speed stuff rarely hits you, I avoid most gatecamps and warp bubbles by jumping as described above and by simply flying fast. As long as you warp away before someone comes close enough to warp scramble and stasis webbify you simultaneously you should rarely ever get fragged :)
kessah	Posted - 2006.05.29 16:32:00 - [54] Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 29/05/2006 14:20:28 Originally by: kessah Mostly camped by a Smartbombing domi. So you'll need bm's even then you can still get popped if it's timed correctly. Am i the only one who finds it weird to use smartsbombs on domi, even without using drones, wouldnt a armageddon or apoc or anything with 8 highslots and a highbase cpu (raven) be better for this... Nope domi is the best for it, 5 cap rechargers, 6 large smartbombs all lows devoted for a heavy tank. Geddon doesnt have cpu i dont think, domi's 6 smarties are quite enuf. Its very effective pod n' all, if u want a job done well this is how ud kill those frig pilots before they get to the gate and before they warp. Covert ops frigs are my favourite prey for this If can use the drones when ur team mates are in a gang with you and you therefore can help just dont activate SB's within 5km of them. -------------------------------------------------------- http://www.eve-files.com/media/0604/Forever_pirate.wmv[/ur
DeathsDance	Posted - 2006.05.29 18:14:00 - [55] Edited by: DeathsDance on 29/05/2006 18:14:04 Rancer is only a deathtrap if you dont know what you are doing. And for those who dont know what they are doing - thanks for your custom. It is much appreciated
Tasuric Orka	Posted - 2006.05.29 22:01:00 - [56] Originally by: Zafriel Originally by: Tasuric Orka Originally by: Zafriel Originally by: Baoghal Heh - I was upset about being podded in Rancer till I read this thread. Don't give the gate campers any grief about what they're doing, just go around. It's part of the game. At least I was in a fairly stripped ship when I got podded. I would've paid ransom but I didn't even get the chance. There just is no time for ransome unless you offer first as soon as you jump in and is arranged whilest you are still cloaked Really? But you cant see what kind of ship the guy is in, how do you know what to ask? Ask them....its not like they are in any possition to lie. Righto, makes sense i guess. ________________________________________________ I survived Veto and all i got was this lame sig.
Dire Lauthris	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:54:00 - [57] Teehee this damn system! I'd spent about 2-3 days moving bits and bobs (read: crap loads of named/T2 mods) around and sorting out jump clones that by Friday I wasn't thinking clearly at all. I mean I must've crossed the map about 12 times in 2 days, it was really getting old quick. So for the final stint I AFK'd it for a few jumps, autopilot from Lonetrek -> Derelik... without changing my AP settings to avoid low sec. I came back from a smoke to find myself back in 0.0 in my pod. The killmail was truncated because the destroyed items list was so long. I really hope TunDraGon got some loot out of that to teach me even more of a lesson, but I think the secure can everything was in popped in the explosion along with the 2 Interceptors in my cargo. I kept imagining what it would be like at a gate camp to see this fat little Iteron 3 arrive and slowly plod towards the gate completely ignoring the fire raining down on it.
Moghydin	Posted - 2006.05.30 22:05:00 - [58] I was able to pass Rancer without instas. The key is to accelerate your interceptor to approximately 5000 m/s, and you'll be mostly fine. They managed to squeeze 1 shot though
Yarek Balear	Posted - 2006.05.30 22:35:00 - [59] Tundragon saved my life in Rancer... but yeah, don't go there !
Immortal Slapper	Posted - 2006.05.30 23:46:00 - [60] i went through rancer the other day in my apoc, i was lucky cause most of the ships were on the other gate, was glad i had instas tho, as 8 mega pulse t2 plus conflagration crystals was the cheapest thing on my ship

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