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Thelia Nar
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Posted - 2006.05.20 03:24:00 -
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So, being a new player, I was goofing around with the map, plotting courses all over, and I stumbled on this system, while trying to plot a course from Caldari to Minmatar space. It has an awful lot of ships and pods blown up in the last day, so I'm guessing it must be pirate central. Is it pretty much insta-death for a newer player like myself to venture through there? Would a quick frigate with some WCS help, or am I better off just going the long way around, if I wanted to visit Minmatar space?
-Thelia
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.05.20 04:38:00 -
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If you go there right after down time and make instas you should be fine. Atleast in a frig.
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2006.05.20 04:52:00 -
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Make an ALT on your account. Buy him/her a shuttle (or five) and have at making your BMs. Be sure to base a clone for him in the nearest system to Rancer you can so if you get podded you wake up there. No worries bout buying clones so no waste of money there.
Copy the BMs and escrow them to your main.
If you want to save money just make the BMs with his newb ship. Take a bit longer and easier to kill but then it is zero waste of cash.
When done delete the character or keep him/her as you please.
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.05.20 06:04:00 -
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It's a galaxy map bug, i've been there yesterday and seen only friendly faces. 
 Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Golden Helmet
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Posted - 2006.05.20 08:25:00 -
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actualy, i passed through rancer just the other day with my alt (accidental, if i knew rancer was in the route i'd have avoided it). i saw a LOT of corpses, but... asides from myself, local was completely empty
rancer is usualy camped though, i think the local corp was Tundragon, something like that. was amusing to find rancer empty though
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Aakron
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Posted - 2006.05.20 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Epsilon 1
It's a galaxy map bug, i've been there yesterday and seen only friendly faces.
lol ;)
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Legenda
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Posted - 2006.05.20 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Epsilon 1
It's a galaxy map bug, i've been there yesterday and seen only friendly faces.
ROFL
....you made me laugh ...
[ 2005.12.07 17:45:23 ] Ikvar > Are you really that stupid?
[ 2005.12.07 17:45:30 ] Spr1nger > YES
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.20 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 20/05/2006 11:16:34
TDG have big red ebil ships 
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raVn666
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Posted - 2006.05.20 12:35:00 -
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tsk Epsilon ..have you been mean again 
Exotic dancer forum
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Thelia Nar
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Posted - 2006.05.20 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Epsilon 1
It's a galaxy map bug, i've been there yesterday and seen only friendly faces.
Hehehe...very clever. I might be new, but I'm not falling for that :P.
Thanks for the replies, maybe it'll be good practice to see if I can make some instas or something in a rookie ship. I don't really care if I get blown up, as I have nothing to lose right now anyway.
Besides, I'm going to try my hand at a little piracy myself once I grow up. YAAARR!
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Espen
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Posted - 2006.05.20 14:03:00 -
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You can buy a "How to pass Rancer" guide from me for only 400mill.
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Cassius Brutus
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Posted - 2006.05.20 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Cassius Brutus on 20/05/2006 14:10:06
I went through Rancer and found the gate camped. I went boom! This was awhile back though  . I accidentally bought something from there and didn't check the map or the sec warning...nor did I have bm's or anything.
Wow, I used to be dumb.
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Verus Potestas
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Posted - 2006.05.20 15:00:00 -
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While rancer is very friendly, real hardcore mining should be done in otou.
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Thelia Nar
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Posted - 2006.05.20 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Espen
You can buy a "How to pass Rancer" guide from me for only 400mill.
Sweet, loan me 399,994,027 ISK, you got a deal!
-Thelia
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Thut'ankh Amon
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Posted - 2006.05.20 23:21:00 -
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when passing rancer i always find it peacefull and friendly... must be hours i guess :p
I'ja'me ro'vu Amon
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.05.20 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Epsilon 1
It's a galaxy map bug, i've been there yesterday and seen only friendly faces.
lol
join soar angelic! or at least bump it
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Antiochus Laetus
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Posted - 2006.05.21 00:23:00 -
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Just a few systems I was always told to stay out of when I was in the newbie corp; was Rancer, Old Man Star, and Egghlende(sp--I cant remeber how to spell that).
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Cruz
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Posted - 2006.05.21 03:17:00 -
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Rancer isn't bad at all if you pay attention.. Ive only run into maybe 3 gatecamps there in the pats month... and they couldnt get me because well they suck :P
Except for last week when I AFKed from rorsins to jita... I was in the bathroom while my autopilot took me along, thats how safe I felt in that area.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.05.21 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cruz
Rancer isn't bad at all if you pay attention.. Ive only run into maybe 3 gatecamps there in the pats month... and they couldnt get me because well they suck :P
Except for last week when I AFKed from rorsins to jita... I was in the bathroom while my autopilot took me along, thats how safe I felt in that area.
ive ran into a few gate camps there too, lamers didnt even get a shot off....SUCKERZ!!1!11!11
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Cruz
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Posted - 2006.05.21 18:28:00 -
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Of course I should add that I did get podded on that little afk trip of mine :P
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Mextor
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Posted - 2006.05.21 18:38:00 -
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Rancer is not that bad i passed through the other day on AP, low sec isn't that bad, at least ppl cant us warp bubbles they r as nightmare
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Warp Warrior
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Posted - 2006.05.21 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas
While rancer is very friendly, real hardcore mining should be done in otou.
Very true, and also Crielere is another very safe system to mine in with no problems.
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Thelia Nar
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Posted - 2006.05.21 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Warp Warrior
Edited by: Warp Warrior on 21/05/2006 21:55:56
Originally by: Verus Potestas
While rancer is very friendly, real hardcore mining should be done in otou.
Very true, and also Crielere is another very safe system to mine in with no problems.
Bah, I'm not looking to mine there, I just wondered how bad/hard it would be to make it to the Hek system from Caldari space.
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DumBunny2
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Posted - 2006.05.22 18:35:00 -
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With instas, my main passes through there all the time. Never been bothered. Never done it in a ship smaller than a ferox. A buddy died via smartbomb in a frig.
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.05.22 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: DumBunny2
With instas, my main passes through there all the time. Never been bothered. Never done it in a ship smaller than a ferox. A buddy died via smartbomb in a frig.
Oh dear, somebody forgot his pills again
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.05.22 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Epsilon 1
Originally by: DumBunny2
With instas, my main passes through there all the time. Never been bothered. Never done it in a ship smaller than a ferox. A buddy died via smartbomb in a frig.
Oh dear, somebody forgot his pills again
/me shows red and blue pill ...
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kessah
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Posted - 2006.05.23 09:54:00 -
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Mostly camped by a Smartbombing domi.
So you'll need bm's even then you can still get popped if it's timed correctly.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.05.23 18:27:00 -
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Pretty much everyone will direct their autopilot around rancer thesedays.
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TheDevilsJury
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Posted - 2006.05.24 06:31:00 -
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which corp keeps on camping Amamake?
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Trigo
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Posted - 2006.05.24 07:37:00 -
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I've been killed a few times in rancer last time in my manticore silly me thought 0 kills in the last hour would mean it was fine to go there but i think my cloak failed due to corpses at least i got away in my pod and got out just after dt when i got out of bed
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Igorian
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Posted - 2006.05.24 16:38:00 -
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Just have someone bring in a covert, part it near the gankers and have your friends warp to you and kill them...
The pirates run when any group of decent pilots get together, so most corps won't bother chasing them as they will just go to SS or log...bad game mechanics but Tun have done this for years very effectively.
Instas in a armoured ship should see you through easily...indy without insta = dead meat and Tun's dinner :P
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Don ZOLA
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Posted - 2006.05.24 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Igorian
Just have someone bring in a covert, part it near the gankers and have your friends warp to you and kill them...
The pirates run when any group of decent pilots get together, so most corps won't bother chasing them as they will just go to SS or log...bad game mechanics but Tun have done this for years very effectively.
Instas in a armoured ship should see you through easily...indy without insta = dead meat and Tun's dinner :P
we never run when anyone has at least close numbers as we do. but mostly those bravy pirate hunters come with at least 2-5:1 odds. if u come with close numbers u can c us warp out just to dock and refit, after that sides r changed and we r hunters and anti pirates pray :D
There are 2 rules in a successful life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know
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ReaperOfSly
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Posted - 2006.05.24 20:40:00 -
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Took my covops in there the other day. Thought I'd be fine since I can warp cloaked. As soon as I came out of warp, I bumped into 5 corpses. Bye bye cloak, bye bye ship, bye bye pod  .
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.05.25 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Took my covops in there the other day. Thought I'd be fine since I can warp cloaked. As soon as I came out of warp, I bumped into 5 corpses. Bye bye cloak, bye bye ship, bye bye pod .
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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IamBen
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Posted - 2006.05.25 02:27:00 -
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Rancers perfectly safe, its just Tundragon camping there.
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Trigo
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Posted - 2006.05.25 05:47:00 -
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it would be nice to get there long enough to pick up the dead as there should be a cropse there that the owner really wants back.
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Spy4Hire
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Posted - 2006.05.25 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
Mostly camped by a Smartbombing domi.
Well, to SB he's got to have a modest tank to hold the gate guns, and the rest of the lows will be WCS.
If they're using snipers you can bet that all of their lows are WCS. These are brave folks, these empire pir8s. If it has a gun pointed at them they're safed faster than a rabbit takes breath.
I saw a Tundragon in 0.0 once... he went pop and I didn't even have to work at it.
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Vargrh
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Posted - 2006.05.25 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Espen
You can buy a "How to pass Rancer" guide from me for only 400mill.
Zeroh's Rancor Rampage..., dropped from -3.0 to -10.00 in a couple of hours when he joined you guys
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Valhalior
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Posted - 2006.05.25 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Don ZOLA
Originally by: Igorian
Just have someone bring in a covert, part it near the gankers and have your friends warp to you and kill them...
The pirates run when any group of decent pilots get together, so most corps won't bother chasing them as they will just go to SS or log...bad game mechanics but Tun have done this for years very effectively.
Instas in a armoured ship should see you through easily...indy without insta = dead meat and Tun's dinner :P
we never run when anyone has at least close numbers as we do. but mostly those bravy pirate hunters come with at least 2-5:1 odds. if u come with close numbers u can c us warp out just to dock and refit, after that sides r changed and we r hunters and anti pirates pray :D
I wonder if you allow your outnumbered victims to dock, regroup, refit and fight 
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Constantine Arcanum
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Posted - 2006.05.25 21:08:00 -
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I was pirating in the Olettiers- Otou- Rorsins (espec. Thelan!) pipe BEFORE it was cool.
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Espen
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Posted - 2006.05.25 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Spy4Hire
Originally by: kessah
Mostly camped by a Smartbombing domi.
Well, to SB he's got to have a modest tank to hold the gate guns, and the rest of the lows will be WCS.
If they're using snipers you can bet that all of their lows are WCS. These are brave folks, these empire pir8s. If it has a gun pointed at them they're safed faster than a rabbit takes breath.
I saw a Tundragon in 0.0 once... he went pop and I didn't even have to work at it.
Hi alt! My hero! <3<3<3<3♥♥♥
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Sever Aldaria
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Posted - 2006.05.25 22:07:00 -
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If you're smart or lucky, then its not a problem passing through Rancer. If you're smart, you'll have instas and not use a slow warping ship, especially if you're warping from the Crielere stargate as Tundragons like to camp that gate with snipers. If you're lucky, you'll pass through durring their off hours. I ran a 2 jump trade route buying and selling in Rancer. Did that happily for a few hours w/out any troubles as Rancer was pretty empty.
I got a laugh when passing through rancer once. Was comming from Crielere in my industrial. Jumped through into Rancer and there is RODREGUEZ(sp) in his sniping megathron again.  Had my indy fitted up with nanofibers in the lows and warped away before he could get a shot off (which is probably all it would have taken ). Maybe next time RODREGUEZ
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.05.26 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sever Aldaria
If you're smart or lucky, then its not a problem passing through Rancer. If you're smart, you'll have instas and not use a slow warping ship, especially if you're warping from the Crielere stargate as Tundragons like to camp that gate with snipers. If you're lucky, you'll pass through durring their off hours. I ran a 2 jump trade route buying and selling in Rancer. Did that happily for a few hours w/out any troubles as Rancer was pretty empty.
I got a laugh when passing through rancer once. Was comming from Crielere in my industrial. Jumped through into Rancer and there is RODREGUEZ(sp) in his sniping megathron again. Had my indy fitted up with nanofibers in the lows and warped away before he could get a shot off (which is probably all it would have taken). Maybe next time RODREGUEZ
I really hate when that happens....Im like OMG indy....Bastard!!
In all honesty intys and covert ops drop way better loot than indys, but I always get this feeling when i see an indy
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zeroh
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Vargrh
Originally by: Espen
You can buy a "How to pass Rancer" guide from me for only 400mill.
Zeroh's Rancor Rampage..., dropped from -3.0 to -10.00 in a couple of hours when he joined you guys
150-200 killmails in last 2 days oh yes my dear vargh
All things I Say is of my opinion and not of My corp Or alliance |
Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: zeroh
Originally by: Vargrh
Originally by: Espen
You can buy a "How to pass Rancer" guide from me for only 400mill.
Zeroh's Rancor Rampage..., dropped from -3.0 to -10.00 in a couple of hours when he joined you guys
150-200 killmails in last 2 days oh yes my dear vargh
EEEEKS, ur sig! we aint in an alliance and we as a corp will back anything you say, especially if it means a fight due to a ****ed off forum *****
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Baoghal
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Posted - 2006.05.28 19:16:00 -
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Heh - I was upset about being podded in Rancer till I read this thread. Don't give the gate campers any grief about what they're doing, just go around. It's part of the game.
At least I was in a fairly stripped ship when I got podded. I would've paid ransom but I didn't even get the chance. |
Zafriel
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Posted - 2006.05.29 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Baoghal
Heh - I was upset about being podded in Rancer till I read this thread. Don't give the gate campers any grief about what they're doing, just go around. It's part of the game.
At least I was in a fairly stripped ship when I got podded. I would've paid ransom but I didn't even get the chance.
There just is no time for ransome unless you offer first as soon as you jump in and is arranged whilest you are still cloaked
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Tasuric Orka
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Posted - 2006.05.29 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Zafriel
Originally by: Baoghal
Heh - I was upset about being podded in Rancer till I read this thread. Don't give the gate campers any grief about what they're doing, just go around. It's part of the game.
At least I was in a fairly stripped ship when I got podded. I would've paid ransom but I didn't even get the chance.
There just is no time for ransome unless you offer first as soon as you jump in and is arranged whilest you are still cloaked
Really? But you cant see what kind of ship the guy is in, how do you know what to ask?
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Zafriel
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Posted - 2006.05.29 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tasuric Orka
Originally by: Zafriel
Originally by: Baoghal
Heh - I was upset about being podded in Rancer till I read this thread. Don't give the gate campers any grief about what they're doing, just go around. It's part of the game.
At least I was in a fairly stripped ship when I got podded. I would've paid ransom but I didn't even get the chance.
There just is no time for ransome unless you offer first as soon as you jump in and is arranged whilest you are still cloaked
Really? But you cant see what kind of ship the guy is in, how do you know what to ask?
Ask them....its not like they are in any possition to lie.
Bikkini-clad ladies removed =P |
Zafriel
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Posted - 2006.05.29 14:11:00 -
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Also like to add that nobody has ever lied about what ship they are in, so I dont actually know what I would do if they did...after blowing him up Id have to do a wee vote on ts whether to give him his cash back.
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.05.29 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 29/05/2006 14:20:28
Originally by: kessah
Mostly camped by a Smartbombing domi.
So you'll need bm's even then you can still get popped if it's timed correctly.
Am i the only one who finds it weird to use smartsbombs on domi, even without using drones, wouldnt a armageddon or apoc or anything with 8 highslots and a highbase cpu (raven) be better for this...
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JoeT
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Posted - 2006.05.29 14:21:00 -
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I heard Oulley was nicly camped for the last 2 weeks.
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Cheyenne Shadowborn
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Posted - 2006.05.29 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Thelia Nar
So, being a new player, I was goofing around with the map, plotting courses all over, and I stumbled on this system, while trying to plot a course from Caldari to Minmatar space. It has an awful lot of ships and pods blown up in the last day, so I'm guessing it must be pirate central. Is it pretty much insta-death for a newer player like myself to venture through there? Would a quick frigate with some WCS help, or am I better off just going the long way around, if I wanted to visit Minmatar space?
-Thelia
I don't use insta-BMs or such on my noob characters. Too much hassle, too little fun.
If you have no more than say 200.000 SP so your clones are still dirt cheap, get an Executioner for roughly 30k, insure to get even if killed, fit two Fiber-Structure-I thingies (gives you +40m/sec and 25% more agility to get into warp), and fit a 1mn afterburner.
This setup warps as quickly as a shuttle, flies as fast as a shuttle (with navigation 3 or so) and flies almost 1000m/sec with the afterburner, but unlike the shuttle it has some cargo space. Oh, and the afterburner can be constantly on.
You can avoid most gate camps in my humble experience by warping to 60 or 100 km or so (depending on how paranoid one feels) and if the gate is clear, approach it with almost 1000m/sec or warp to a nearby object, then warp back to the gate within 15km.
After the jump if you jump right into a camp, if they don't have warp bubbles warp to an object close to the 12 o'clock position of your ship, if they have warp bubbles turn arround at near 1000m/sec and jump out again.
At high speed stuff rarely hits you, I avoid most gatecamps and warp bubbles by jumping as described above and by simply flying fast. As long as you warp away before someone comes close enough to warp scramble and stasis webbify you simultaneously you should rarely ever get fragged :)
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kessah
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Posted - 2006.05.29 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Edited by: madaluap on 29/05/2006 14:20:28
Originally by: kessah
Mostly camped by a Smartbombing domi.
So you'll need bm's even then you can still get popped if it's timed correctly.
Am i the only one who finds it weird to use smartsbombs on domi, even without using drones, wouldnt a armageddon or apoc or anything with 8 highslots and a highbase cpu (raven) be better for this...
Nope domi is the best for it, 5 cap rechargers, 6 large smartbombs all lows devoted for a heavy tank.
Geddon doesnt have cpu i dont think, domi's 6 smarties are quite enuf.
Its very effective pod n' all, if u want a job done well this is how ud kill those frig pilots before they get to the gate and before they warp.
Covert ops frigs are my favourite prey for this
If can use the drones when ur team mates are in a gang with you and you therefore can help just dont activate SB's within 5km of them.
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DeathsDance
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Posted - 2006.05.29 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: DeathsDance on 29/05/2006 18:14:04
Rancer is only a deathtrap if you dont know what you are doing. And for those who dont know what they are doing - thanks for your custom. It is much appreciated
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Tasuric Orka
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Posted - 2006.05.29 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zafriel
Originally by: Tasuric Orka
Originally by: Zafriel
Originally by: Baoghal
Heh - I was upset about being podded in Rancer till I read this thread. Don't give the gate campers any grief about what they're doing, just go around. It's part of the game.
At least I was in a fairly stripped ship when I got podded. I would've paid ransom but I didn't even get the chance.
There just is no time for ransome unless you offer first as soon as you jump in and is arranged whilest you are still cloaked
Really? But you cant see what kind of ship the guy is in, how do you know what to ask?
Ask them....its not like they are in any possition to lie.
Righto, makes sense i guess.
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Dire Lauthris
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Posted - 2006.05.30 12:54:00 -
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Teehee this damn system! I'd spent about 2-3 days moving bits and bobs (read: crap loads of named/T2 mods) around and sorting out jump clones that by Friday I wasn't thinking clearly at all. I mean I must've crossed the map about 12 times in 2 days, it was really getting old quick.
So for the final stint I AFK'd it for a few jumps, autopilot from Lonetrek -> Derelik... without changing my AP settings to avoid low sec.
I came back from a smoke to find myself back in 0.0 in my pod. The killmail was truncated because the destroyed items list was so long.
I really hope TunDraGon got some loot out of that to teach me even more of a lesson, but I think the secure can everything was in popped in the explosion along with the 2 Interceptors in my cargo.
I kept imagining what it would be like at a gate camp to see this fat little Iteron 3 arrive and slowly plod towards the gate completely ignoring the fire raining down on it.
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:05:00 -
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I was able to pass Rancer without instas. The key is to accelerate your interceptor to approximately 5000 m/s, and you'll be mostly fine. They managed to squeeze 1 shot though 
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Yarek Balear
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:35:00 -
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Tundragon saved my life in Rancer... but yeah, don't go there !
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Immortal Slapper
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:46:00 -
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i went through rancer the other day in my apoc, i was lucky cause most of the ships were on the other gate, was glad i had instas tho, as 8 mega pulse t2 plus conflagration crystals was the cheapest thing on my ship |
shadow saber
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Posted - 2006.05.31 00:17:00 -
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by teh looks of the map carrou is catching up with rancers kills
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Thelia Nar
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Posted - 2006.05.31 23:05:00 -
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I didn't realize that my old Rancer thread had been active. I got a few instas through those systems and went through without much incident during some off hours. I just can't help wondering if it gets boring just camping the gates in sniping battleships though :(
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Voculus
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Posted - 2006.06.01 06:21:00 -
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Rancer is over-rated, as are the pirates who inhabit it.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2006.06.01 06:21:00 -
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Yeah it¦s boring - but what can we do? From my view a pirate corp should make ISK with piracy. So letzs check the options:
1.) Belt piracy:
Problem: belts are empty! Since the missions came into game only some Thorax n00bs fly hang arround in the belts. Searching them is possible but really hard work. All in all belt piracy can be funny but will not pay much ISK.
2.) 0.0 piracy:
I¦ve done this 2 years and it worked pretty ok. But in past the 0.0-industrial traffic was reduced to a minimum. This means you have to fight experienced blobs of alliance pilots 23/7. You can fight them, you can even win very often, but only 1 BS-loss of your corp costs you ISK. But as pirates you need to MAKE ISK while fighting!
3.) Gate piracy in low sec.
Here we go - that is the place where sooner or later everything that can be bought on the market will end in a loot can. People do not move their BPOs into a belt when they go mining. But when they move from A to B, they move BPOs, items, repackaged ships...through a gate! So this is where a true pirate belongs to! Wait for the big fat trader! Camping is a hunting style. If you watch a leopard hunting you¦ll find out he is a camper too. He might move arround, but most of the time he¦s waiting on a tree for stupid other animals passing by. Or spiders - those are masters of camping. They even create a net to increase they area of effect.
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Posted - 2006.06.01 07:56:00 -
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I like that analogy =p
And its not like its hard to get past their camps...
I pass through them often with my ishkur and i usually don't even get hit a single time.
With a fast ship chances are they wont even get to lock you before you are gone. Do not try it with a hauler though.
Also use instas!
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Thelia Nar
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Posted - 2006.06.01 12:24:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Lifewire
Yeah it¦s boring - but what can we do? From my view a pirate corp should make ISK with piracy. So letzs check the options:
1.) Belt piracy:
Problem: belts are empty! Since the missions came into game only some Thorax n00bs fly hang arround in the belts. Searching them is possible but really hard work. All in all belt piracy can be funny but will not pay much ISK.
2.) 0.0 piracy:
I¦ve done this 2 years and it worked pretty ok. But in past the 0.0-industrial traffic was reduced to a minimum. This means you have to fight experienced blobs of alliance pilots 23/7. You can fight them, you can even win very often, but only 1 BS-loss of your corp costs you ISK. But as pirates you need to MAKE ISK while fighting!
3.) Gate piracy in low sec.
Here we go - that is the place where sooner or later everything that can be bought on the market will end in a loot can. People do not move their BPOs into a belt when they go mining. But when they move from A to B, they move BPOs, items, repackaged ships...through a gate! So this is where a true pirate belongs to! Wait for the big fat trader! Camping is a hunting style. If you watch a leopard hunting you¦ll find out he is a camper too. He might move arround, but most of the time he¦s waiting on a tree for stupid other animals passing by. Or spiders - those are masters of camping. They even create a net to increase they area of effect.
Well, being a new player, I admit I have no experience with any of these kinds of piracy, but I can see where you are coming from. I have to admit I am a bit surprised that people would try to run through that system with anything valuable though. I mean, I was about a week old when I started playing around with the map settings, and that system immediately jumped out at me as a very bad place to be. Are there really that many people that just don't know (or care maybe?) how to use the map, or are they stupid enough to think that they will somehow be the one that makes it through.
So, I have a question for the Tundragon guys though: do you ever make any mad enough to come back with a bunch of friends to hunt you down (the ever-classic "I'll go get my main/alliance/friends/gank group and teach you a lesson" type of player), and if so, what do you guys do to handle that?
I'm enjoying hearing about life as a pirate in low-sec :)
-Thelia
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Carbon Argon
Minmatar
The Brotherhood of the Wolf
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Posted - 2007.04.05 10:30:00 -
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lol I just passed through rancer.
Was at least 30+ people at both gates, explosions everywhere.. multiple "Is warp scrambling xxyy" gumps appeared, didn't get noticed though.
Its easy to pass through these systems, just jump to within 0m of your next gate from within cloak, easy.
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Moondancee
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.05 10:35:00 -
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necros are bad mmmkay
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
The Ninja Coalition
Phobos Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.05 11:48:00 -
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/me kicks the dead thread.. or is that horse? again...
pass through there all of the time in a shuttle, usually with 3-4 bpo/bpc's, as i really can't be bothered to go around.
i have yet to be target locked (they usually camp both sides of the gate).
main thing is to not autopilot through there, manually warp to 0.. and get either a shuttle, or interceptor (or frig, like slasher, with an inertial stab on it)
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Thread Winner
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.05 12:15:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Carbon Argon
lol I just passed through rancer.
Was at least 30+ people at both gates, explosions everywhere.. multiple "Is warp scrambling xxyy" gumps appeared, didn't get noticed though.
Its easy to pass through these systems, just jump to within 0m of your next gate from within cloak, easy.
I'm sure they care now especially ages after the question was asked.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.05 12:23:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Moondancee
necros are bad mmmkay
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Maximillian Power
Minmatar
WOLFPACK DELTA
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Posted - 2007.04.05 12:52:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Maximillian Power on 05/04/2007 12:48:52
Originally by: Feng Schui
/me kicks the dead thread.. or is that horse? again...
pass through there all of the time in a shuttle, usually with 3-4 bpo/bpc's, as i really can't be bothered to go around.
i have yet to be target locked (they usually camp both sides of the gate).
main thing is to not autopilot through there, manually warp to 0.. and get either a shuttle, or interceptor (or frig, like slasher, with an inertial stab on it)
Seeing as it is already necro'd i might aswell call you on this one. This is NOT good advice for anyone.
Smartbomb BS with officer/faction smarties can kill a frig/shuttle before they manage to jump through. There is no guarantee of getting past a good gatecamp IF they are set up for killing the type of ship that you are flying on that particular day. 999 times out of 1000 - yeah - you are fine - but it only takes one to lose that fancy Hyperion BPO....
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Carbon Argon
Minmatar
The Brotherhood of the Wolf
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Posted - 2007.04.05 13:15:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Carbon Argon on 05/04/2007 13:14:04
Edited by: Carbon Argon on 05/04/2007 13:12:51
Originally by: Thread Winner
Originally by: Carbon Argon
lol I just passed through rancer.
Was at least 30+ people at both gates, explosions everywhere.. multiple "Is warp scrambling xxyy" gumps appeared, didn't get noticed though.
Its easy to pass through these systems, just jump to within 0m of your next gate from within cloak, easy.
I'm sure they care now especially ages after the question was asked.
Ye, GG on that one mate.
If something relevant to my current experience in-game occurs, I will find a thread already used for it rather than creating a new one.
You also state Quote:
I'm sure they care
- As if to say, I posted explicitlybecause I thought people might care, sure, that MUST be it! Of course!!
Not like I'd post to share my experiences to help anyone else out in the same field, or you know, post on a forum because THATS WHAT ITS FOR
You won the internet just then, like three times all at once.
Your a winner mate.
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Thread Winner
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.05 13:26:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Carbon Argon
Edited by: Carbon Argon on 05/04/2007 13:14:04
Edited by: Carbon Argon on 05/04/2007 13:12:51
Originally by: Thread Winner
Originally by: Carbon Argon
lol I just passed through rancer.
Was at least 30+ people at both gates, explosions everywhere.. multiple "Is warp scrambling xxyy" gumps appeared, didn't get noticed though.
Its easy to pass through these systems, just jump to within 0m of your next gate from within cloak, easy.
I'm sure they care now especially ages after the question was asked.
Ye, GG on that one mate.
If something relevant to my current experience in-game occurs, I will find a thread already used for it rather than creating a new one.
You also state Quote:
I'm sure they care
- As if to say, I posted explicitlybecause I thought people might care, sure, that MUST be it! Of course!!
Not like I'd post to share my experiences to help anyone else out in the same field, or you know, post on a forum because THATS WHAT ITS FOR
You won the internet just then, like three times all at once.
Your a winner mate.
It never hurts to start a new thread every once in a while genius. If its past page 3 its dead and considering that hippoking was on the first page of this thread this thread has been embalmed a while ago.
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Carbon Argon
Minmatar
The Brotherhood of the Wolf
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Posted - 2007.04.05 13:33:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Thread Winner
Originally by: Carbon Argon
Edited by: Carbon Argon on 05/04/2007 13:14:04
Edited by: Carbon Argon on 05/04/2007 13:12:51
Originally by: Thread Winner
Originally by: Carbon Argon
lol I just passed through rancer.
Was at least 30+ people at both gates, explosions everywhere.. multiple "Is warp scrambling xxyy" gumps appeared, didn't get noticed though.
Its easy to pass through these systems, just jump to within 0m of your next gate from within cloak, easy.
I'm sure they care now especially ages after the question was asked.
Ye, GG on that one mate.
If something relevant to my current experience in-game occurs, I will find a thread already used for it rather than creating a new one.
You also state Quote:
I'm sure they care
- As if to say, I posted explicitlybecause I thought people might care, sure, that MUST be it! Of course!!
Not like I'd post to share my experiences to help anyone else out in the same field, or you know, post on a forum because THATS WHAT ITS FOR
You won the internet just then, like three times all at once.
Your a winner mate.
It never hurts to start a new thread every once in a while genius. If its past page 3 its dead and considering that hippoking was on the first page of this thread this thread has been embalmed a while ago.
What are you complaining about, You won the Internet remember.
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Life forms....You tiny little life forms.
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Thread Winner
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.05 14:59:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Carbon Argon
Originally by: Thread Winner
Originally by: Carbon Argon
Edited by: Carbon Argon on 05/04/2007 13:14:04
Edited by: Carbon Argon on 05/04/2007 13:12:51
Originally by: Thread Winner
Originally by: Carbon Argon
lol I just passed through rancer.
Was at least 30+ people at both gates, explosions everywhere.. multiple "Is warp scrambling xxyy" gumps appeared, didn't get noticed though.
Its easy to pass through these systems, just jump to within 0m of your next gate from within cloak, easy.
I'm sure they care now especially ages after the question was asked.
Ye, GG on that one mate.
If something relevant to my current experience in-game occurs, I will find a thread already used for it rather than creating a new one.
You also state Quote:
I'm sure they care
- As if to say, I posted explicitlybecause I thought people might care, sure, that MUST be it! Of course!!
Not like I'd post to share my experiences to help anyone else out in the same field, or you know, post on a forum because THATS WHAT ITS FOR
You won the internet just then, like three times all at once.
Your a winner mate.
It never hurts to start a new thread every once in a while genius. If its past page 3 its dead and considering that hippoking was on the first page of this thread this thread has been embalmed a while ago.
What are you complaining about, You won the Internet remember.
I was making a point that your posting in a age old thread about rancer is no longer relevant. If you wanted to post that make a new rancer thread and let this thread fade into the abyss as all you said was hey I can make it through you can too. Your post was directed at a thread that was pre warp to 0, pre non snipe gate camps, pre wcs nerf. You shouldn't have made the post at all is what I'm saying.
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kublai
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.05 15:02:00 -
[77]
Argue no more!
I, Kublai, Dutchess of Crime and Punishment hereby proclaim this thread dead.
ISD, do my bidding and DESTROY!
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Drunk Driver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.05 16:00:00 -
[78]
I flew into Rancer once.
Had to gnaw off a leg to get away. |
Thread Winner
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.05 16:03:00 -
[79]
Originally by: kublai
Argue no more!
I, Kublai, Dutchess of Crime and Punishment hereby proclaim this thread dead.
ISD, do my bidding and DESTROY!
If ISD did your bidding why is your sig gone?
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kublai
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.05 16:23:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Thread Winner
Originally by: kublai
Argue no more!
I, Kublai, Dutchess of Crime and Punishment hereby proclaim this thread dead.
ISD, do my bidding and DESTROY!
If ISD did your bidding why is your sig gone?
The Dutchess is not amused.
Signature removed - please email us with a link to find out why - Serathu ([email protected]) |
Thread Winner
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.05 18:28:00 -
[81]
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Thread Winner
Originally by: kublai
Argue no more!
I, Kublai, Dutchess of Crime and Punishment hereby proclaim this thread dead.
ISD, do my bidding and DESTROY!
If ISD did your bidding why is your sig gone?
The Dutchess is not amused.
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Neon Genesis
Gallente
The Landed Gentry
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Posted - 2007.04.05 18:58:00 -
[82]
Wow bumping old threads is just sooo funny.
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Thread Winner
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.05 21:43:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Neon Genesis
Wow bumping old threads is just sooo funny.
Pot meet kettle
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Pirlouit
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.05 21:50:00 -
[84]
Yup, I too fall in the rancer trap and lost a ship in it. But lock anyway since it is an old thread. - thx Pirlouit
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