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Doireen Kaundur
845
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:24:00 -
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Or are the logistics beyond the average unorganized capsuleer?  A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12948
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:25:00 -
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Has it really been over a month since our last "Herding Cats / Highsec Braveheart" thread?
Mind = Blown. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5535
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:27:00 -
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Ask Harry Forever. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Doireen Kaundur
847
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:27:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Has it really been over a month since our last "Herding Cats / Highsec Braveheart" thread?
Mind = Blown.
New to me. So I guess it has been brought up before and deemed undoable huh? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
2242
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:28:00 -
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Its not the logistics that are beyond the average hisec capsuleer. Working together. Risking spaceship loss. Not mining. Not shooting red crosses. These are the things beyond the average hisec capsuleer. "Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |

Sato Page
BLOORDOGY Dead Space Syndicate
15
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:29:00 -
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You could train in to bomber/recon/black op and join a good corp. This way you can kill null ratter for fun!
Oh what? CCP nerfed black op battleship? Too bad, I guess you should just run more L4 missions. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12952
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:29:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:New to me. So I guess it has been brought up before and deemed undoable huh?
Hence the "Herding Cats" remark, because that's what its like trying to organize any kind of highsec invasion of ..well..pretty much anywhere. The only person to successfully hellcamp Goonspace was Harry Forever, you may want to ask him for advice and/or help. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Doireen Kaundur
847
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:31:00 -
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What gets me is how useless Concord is in all this. Like they cant temporarily pop in a carrier or two to mop up overwhelming numbers?
Where are my space taxes going CCP? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5535
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:33:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:New to me. So I guess it has been brought up before and deemed undoable huh? Hence the "Herding Cats" remark, because that's what its like trying to organize any kind of highsec invasion of ..well..pretty much anywhere. The only person to successfully hellcamp Goonspace was Harry Forever, you may want to ask him for advice and/or help.
Advice on how to be an anklebiter who blows up cyno ships and empty Badgers, and scams new players?
Or advice on how to puff up your mediocre accomplishments to try and claim victory, claim to have crushed the spirit of the Goons while having accomplished less damage than a 2 week old suicide ganker? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12956
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:41:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Hence the "Herding Cats" remark, because that's what its like trying to organize any kind of highsec invasion of ..well..pretty much anywhere. The only person to successfully hellcamp Goonspace was Harry Forever, you may want to ask him for advice and/or help.
Advice on how to be an anklebiter who blows up cyno ships and empty Badgers, and scams new players? Or advice on how to puff up your mediocre accomplishments to try and claim victory, claim to have crushed the spirit of the Goons while having accomplished less damage than a 2 week old suicide ganker?
Yes. But isn't that what highsec would consider a "holy crusade against goondom?" Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4847
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:41:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Or are the logistics beyond the average unorganized capsuleer? 
I tried once. Ask Harry Forever about it.
It's a real pain in the arse to get to VFK/Mittanigrad.
But... once you get there and do things like put bubbles on their station major lulz can happen. Randomly bombing them can be fun too.
Overall though, the goons take it well and eventually they send people after you who can fight. Say what you want, they are good sports and don't mind the PVP on their front porch.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Thead Enco
47th Ronin
161
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:42:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Or are the logistics beyond the average unorganized capsuleer? 
if you have the stones VFK>>>>>
-á"A Lannister always pays his debts."
-áTyrion Lannister |

Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE.
218
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:45:00 -
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I just make an empty post here to raise the niveau of this thread |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5040
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:47:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Has it really been over a month since our last "Herding Cats / Highsec Braveheart" thread? Mind = Blown.
Herding cats never gets old.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12957
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:47:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Say what you want, they are good sports and don't mind the PVP on their front porch.
This is going to present a problem.. because most highsec invasion plans of VFK hinge on advancing through the back door.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1721
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:53:00 -
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... once heard that every time you clap your hands, a Goon cries...
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Valda Abia
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:58:00 -
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Join Gevlon Goblin. According to him, he singlehandedly stopped Burn Jita and is bringing the CFC to its knees through high sec war decs. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5040
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:03:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:... once heard that every time you clap your hands, a Goon cries... 
...every time you finish a bag of Cheetos, a goon cries.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12961
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:08:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:...every time you finish a bag of Cheetos, a goon cries.
Seems kind of messed up, because when you finish a bag of goons, Cheetos don't do ****. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Doireen Kaundur
847
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:15:00 -
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The alt system in EVE really makes it impossible to do anything like this.
How many Goon alts are in Hi-sec? Coordinating an attack on Goon space would be pointless becuase they would be there waiting in numbers.
There lies the flaw in the game. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
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Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
2330
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:16:00 -
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Just offer free fedo's for the effort  |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1397
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:17:00 -
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[tinfoil hat] Isn't all of space Goon Space? [/tinfoil hat]
On a more serious note, there have been several attempts to burn goon space. So far they all seem to have failed, but one day some group might succeed. No empire lasts forever.
Gevlon and Dinsdale will rise to the top. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |

Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
3441
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:19:00 -
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This thread happens every Burn Jita.
People are welcome to try. |

Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
240
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:21:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:The alt system in EVE really makes it impossible to do anything like this.
How many Goon alts are in Hi-sec? Coordinating an attack on Goon space would be pointless becuase they would be there waiting in numbers.
There lies the flaw in the game.
Goon space is where you find the goons
Regardless of alts... |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4848
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:21:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Say what you want, they are good sports and don't mind the PVP on their front porch. This is going to present a problem.. because most highsec invasion plans of VFK hinge on advancing through the back door.
I tried but Durin's Day came and went and I didn't find out where the keyhole is.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Haaranovor tenn
Trans Secunda Nulli Secunda
0
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:24:00 -
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There are two ways to **** in goon's cheerios without organizing huge fleets.
A.) AFK cloak in their ratting systems and renter systems. (Or, god forbid, decloak and gank stupid ratters, keep a batphone to PL/PASTA and a cyno handy)
B.) Dec their poco corps and roll around reinforcing poco's and POS's
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Aliventi
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
685
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:32:00 -
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Join Flying Dangerous! We frequently go in to CFC space with ceptors and kill their AFK ishtars. The tears are especially awesome. Post patch when they start ratting in carriers more we plan to be there killing those too. Join FD 4 PvP channel in game and ask to speak to a recruiter today! "tbh most people don't care about removing local from highsec. They want it gone from nullsec. I want to be able to solo roam hunt without everyone knowing I am there without them actually seeing me jump through the gate. Effortless intel is bad." ~Me |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5540
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:38:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:The alt system in EVE really makes it impossible to do anything like this.
How many Goon alts are in Hi-sec? Coordinating an attack on Goon space would be pointless becuase they would be there waiting in numbers.
There lies the flaw in the game.
What flaw? That smart gameplay triumphs over stupid gameplay? That numbers and organization triumph over disorganization? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
88
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:45:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:This thread happens every Burn Jita.
People are welcome to try.
Dear Hisec: please actually do this, but give me at least a day's notice to get a clone back to Deklein for the fun. |

Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
3441
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:53:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:This thread happens every Burn Jita.
People are welcome to try. Dear Hisec: please actually do this, but give me at least a day's notice to get a clone back to Deklein for the fun.
You don't have a clone in Deklein?
I haven't flown with GSF in like 2 years and I still have a VFK clone I occasionally jump to just to troll locals. |
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
88
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:57:00 -
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I live in Syndicate. I don't rat anymore and there's nobody worth fighting in the deep blue sea so vOv. I can always podjump back if something actually happens there. |

Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
2330
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:01:00 -
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But more seriously, even if you had that many Fedo's, I think highsec lacks the equipment to do any real damage. An army of RvB frigs, random mission runner CNR's, about the only logistics coming from courier contracts, I just don't see it happening anytime soon...  |

Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1270
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:14:00 -
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You already posted a goon thread with this alt.
Can't goons find a different alt to post about themselves? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Xavier Holtzman
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension
120
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:18:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:The alt system in EVE really makes it impossible to do anything like this.
How many Goon alts are in Hi-sec? Coordinating an attack on Goon space would be pointless becuase they would be there waiting in numbers.
There lies the flaw in the game.
It's not a fault of the game.
Even without goon alts in hisec, there is no way an event like what you're talking about could be done secretly. The CFC wouldn't need alts to find out about it, as it would be written about in blogs, forums and websites.
There is no possible way that the hisec population could pull off something like what you're suggesting. There, I said it. Now, prove me wrong. -x |

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2763
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:27:00 -
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To the OP. Goons have been the target of just about everything...even their own scams and espionage, and yet they thrive. They are excellent players and they have my utmost respect.
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Its not the logistics that are beyond the average hisec capsuleer. Working together. Risking spaceship loss. Not mining. Not shooting red crosses. These are the things beyond the average hisec capsuleer.
I do think the average high sec player is miss represented by most of the high sec forum posters....but I could be wrong. I know that I am currently unable to dedicate myself to even a medium sized group due to RL constraints, so I get to enjoy EvE on a more singular basis and mostly in high sec with the occasional forays into low sec. I like the risk this game proivides, but I love the freredom of the game which allows players like me to fully enjoy the cat and mouse aspect as pretty much full time mice 
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E Thatcher
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.04.30 02:01:00 -
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he didn't say high sec invasion, he said invasion by average and unorganized players. HTF do you plan an event without organizing? Stupid question when you think about it. I call troll, trying to insult and inflame.
IB4L |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
858
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Posted - 2014.04.30 02:15:00 -
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Sometimes I fantasise about highsec "rising-up" against nullsec. Thousands upon thousands of miners, mission-runners, traders, and those guys who spend all day sat on Jita 4-4 undock, all heading into the unknown together to completely stomp everything that stands in their way, in an incredible show of camaraderie. Then I snap back to reality, knowing that it will never happen, and it's not because highsec players are hard to organise, it's that they are impossible to organise.
You see, your average highsec player is very selfish, this game is all about them and maybe whatever little corp they're a part of, they're the "hero" in this game. They have no sense of greater community towards the rest of highsec, all other highsec dwellers are their competition, and the nullsec entities aren't even on their radar.
Only those personally affected by nullsec groups (by being ganked, or wardecced, or whatever) will consider doing something about it, but when they try to get players together to get some revenge, they are met with apathy. "I wasn't affected by Burn Jita at all, why should I come with you? I'll just carry on mining." The players then fall back into their usual routine of earning that next billion ISK, or getting that next skill, because perhaps after they've achieved that, they'll show everyone who's boss! |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
346
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Posted - 2014.04.30 02:17:00 -
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now why we would want to harm in any way the people which do CCP job and diluting the herd in jita so it's possible again to warp in? "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
175
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Posted - 2014.04.30 02:29:00 -
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You should ask Test. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |

Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
2362
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Posted - 2014.04.30 02:33:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:You see, your average highsec player is very selfish, this game is all about them and maybe whatever little corp they're a part of, they're the "hero" in this game. They have no sense of greater community towards the rest of highsec, all other highsec dwellers are their competition, and the nullsec entities aren't even on their radar. meh... there have been a number of interesting things to come out of and from around highsec over the years. It's just seems like when something really good starts making real momentum, it ends quickly in some stupid little drama fight between the different groups (eg bombers bar etc).
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Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1214
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Posted - 2014.04.30 02:37:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Or are the logistics beyond the average unorganized capsuleer? 
We'll find out this autumn when BNI deploys north. |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2488
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Posted - 2014.04.30 02:42:00 -
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So you can sneak in and pop some random folks. BEEP has done that a few times. If you could get a few thousand pilots that are solid 100% committed with deep pockets and organized you might even get noticed. But the sad reality is they would probably love the distraction.
It will really take most of the best players together and committed to the task to ever really make a dent on the goons. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10568
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Posted - 2014.04.30 03:00:00 -
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hiseccers won't engage in a "burn VFK" event because it doesn't have good isk/hr Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
928
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Posted - 2014.04.30 03:27:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:So you can sneak in and pop some random folks. BEEP has done that a few times. If you could get a few thousand pilots that are solid 100% committed with deep pockets and organized you might even get noticed. But the sad reality is they would probably love the distraction.
It will really take most of the best players together and committed to the task to ever really make a dent on the goons.
I think most of the point to Burn Jita is to make you try exactly this, get dunked but have fun in the process.
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Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
92
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Posted - 2014.04.30 03:28:00 -
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Your best bet... Find at least 20K angry aggressive & organized players who don't speak any known language (preferably who also happen to have a large capital fleet that no one knows about) and somehow convince them to follow you on your mad crusade.
There were those rumors running about a while back that Goonswarm was actually a CIA front (got to love Fox News...) - you might be able to convince Kim Jong-un to get 30 thousand or so of his people to play EVE... I think your odds of that are a LOT better than organizing a high-sec assault force.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3209
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Posted - 2014.04.30 03:32:00 -
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The goons are fundamentally designed as an organization in such a way that any grieving tactics play into their hands. They are grievers. Grieving goons is simply validation for them. Scam or rob them. That's your only real option.
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Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
2372
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Posted - 2014.04.30 03:59:00 -
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Cassandra Aurilien wrote:There were those rumors running about a while back that Goonswarm was actually a CIA front (got to love Fox News...) - you might be able to convince Kim Jong-un to get 30 thousand or so of his people to play EVE... I think your odds of that are a LOT better than organizing a high-sec assault force.
You might be onto something there. Someone get Dennis Rodman on the bat-phone, STAT! He'll carry the secret message to Kim Jong-un on his next visit to serenade the beloved leader, get 80k screaming North Korean women opening up trial accounts to get the job done. Of course... there probably aren't even 300 computers in the country, let alone anything to plug them into... but I suppose they could share. |

John Ending
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.04.30 04:06:00 -
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Gogela wrote:The goons are fundamentally designed as an organization in such a way that any grieving tactics play into their hands. They are grievers. Grieving goons is simply validation for them. Scam or rob them. That's your only real option.
I grieved when I read this post |

Doireen Kaundur
Minmatar Republic
849
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Posted - 2014.04.30 04:20:00 -
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Gogela wrote:The goons are fundamentally designed as an organization in such a way that any grieving tactics play into their hands. They are grievers. Grieving goons is simply validation for them. Scam or rob them. That's your only real option.
I dont want to grief them. I just want to blow them up. Over and over again. That's all. 
A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5548
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Posted - 2014.04.30 04:36:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Gogela wrote:The goons are fundamentally designed as an organization in such a way that any grieving tactics play into their hands. They are grievers. Grieving goons is simply validation for them. Scam or rob them. That's your only real option. I dont want to grief them. I just want to blow them up. Over and over again. That's all. 
Why them in particular? Because if you just want to blow people up, I suggest becoming a suicide ganker. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
666
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Posted - 2014.04.30 04:52:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:New to me. So I guess it has been brought up before and deemed undoable huh? Hence the "Herding Cats" remark, because that's what its like trying to organize any kind of highsec invasion of ..well..pretty much anywhere. The only person to successfully hellcamp Goonspace was Harry Forever, you may want to ask him for advice and/or help.
http://vimeo.com/26828021 |

knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
375
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Posted - 2014.04.30 05:54:00 -
[52] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ask Harry Forever.
Shooting alt tabbed cyno alts on the VFK undock is categorically not burning goon space. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5549
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:07:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ask Harry Forever. Shooting alt tabbed cyno alts on the VFK undock is categorically not burning goon space.
Anybody want to buy this guy a sarcasm detector? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Marsha Mallow
411
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:36:00 -
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Since no-one seems capable of organising a Burn Goons event, shall we ask them to do it for us? We can just show up In VFK with nibbles and booze. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |

Dave Stark
5201
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:42:00 -
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Andski wrote:hiseccers won't engage in a "burn VFK" event because it doesn't have good isk/hr
that and the fact that they don't really have a reason to attempt a burn vfk event. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5549
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:50:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Andski wrote:hiseccers won't engage in a "burn VFK" event because it doesn't have good isk/hr that and the fact that they don't really have a reason to attempt a burn vfk event.
That depends on if you listen to the forums, or mention Goons in local. For all the talk, seems like there'd be plenty of reason. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
993
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:52:00 -
[57] - Quote
please |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1463
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:00:00 -
[58] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Andski wrote:hiseccers won't engage in a "burn VFK" event because it doesn't have good isk/hr that and the fact that they don't really have a reason to attempt a burn vfk event. That depends on if you listen to the forums, or mention Goons in local. For all the talk, seems like there'd be plenty of reason. if you don't like mosquitos it doesn't make you go to the forest/swamp and burn them. You just use protection and move on.
The same is about goons: you use protection and never care about them The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
371
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:00:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Sometimes I fantasise about highsec "rising-up" against nullsec. Thousands upon thousands of miners, mission-runners, traders, and those guys who spend all day sat on Jita 4-4 undock, all heading into the unknown together to completely stomp everything that stands in their way, in an incredible show of camaraderie. Then I snap back to reality, knowing that it will never happen, and it's not because highsec players are hard to organise, it's that they are impossible to organise.
Also, see the Doril massacre for a CCP-provided assault on Nullsec 
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10574
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:09:00 -
[60] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:that and the fact that they don't really have a reason to attempt a burn vfk event.
is that why we see a "hisec must rise against the goons" thread on GD every couple of weeks? Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
301
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:16:00 -
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It is possible to organise. Whether the event will be a success or even an event is the issue. You could, quite easily get several hundred people up to VFK for at least a day but you would have to provide all the SRP and Logistics for them since not all people will be willing or able to pitch in. You'll need to give everyone a month's notice to grab people and be willing to go to bloggers, news sites, etc.. Definitely just be open about the event so 1) goons will be there to have some fun and 2) because they'll find out anyway and you're going to need a month or so to plan and move ships in and all that jazz.
What you wont get will be the four or five day death to all capitals fun park that burn jita is. You will probably get frigate, destroyer and cruiser doctrine fleets and some kitchen sink fleets, maybe some rookie ship fleets and possibly, if you're cute enough and bring enough friends a super fleet come in and just go all hentai on you.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3810
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Posted - 2014.04.30 08:26:00 -
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"Things are only impossible in EvE Online if you lack the imagination to conceive of them" -Winston Churchill "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Silvara Nocturn
Nocturn Industries
83
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Posted - 2014.04.30 08:42:00 -
[63] - Quote
We can try to burn goons with witty remarks and snark, but I don't see it happening with spaceships... |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3811
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Posted - 2014.04.30 08:47:00 -
[64] - Quote
My next question is; Why? What did they do to you? "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

IDGAD
The Scope Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2014.04.30 08:53:00 -
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Sato Page wrote:You could train in to bomber/recon/black op and join a good corp. This way you can kill null ratter for fun!
Oh what? CCP nerfed black op battleship? Too bad, I guess you should just run more L4 missions.
How were Blops supposedly nerfed? |

Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
78
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Posted - 2014.04.30 09:00:00 -
[66] - Quote
Haaranovor tenn wrote:A.) AFK cloak in their ratting systems and renter systems. (Or, god forbid, decloak and gank stupid ratters, keep a batphone to PL/PASTA and a cyno handy)
Actual targets to shoot at instead of baiting the endless Tri ceptor gangs with carriers? |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
744
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:05:00 -
[67] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:Or are the logistics beyond the average unorganized capsuleer? 
Just do what the minor annoyances do to us, and base out of NPC Pure Blind.
I would love to see some sort of highsec uprising storming the gates of VFK. It would be lots of fun. |

Dave Stark
5209
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:07:00 -
[68] - Quote
Andski wrote:Dave Stark wrote:that and the fact that they don't really have a reason to attempt a burn vfk event. is that why we see a "hisec must rise against the goons" thread on GD every couple of weeks?
we also see people holding up "gay marriage is wrong" signs every day, too. both groups of people are morons. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3816
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:29:00 -
[69] - Quote
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Or are the logistics beyond the average unorganized capsuleer?  Just do what the minor annoyances do to us, and base out of NPC Pure Blind. I would love to see some sort of highsec uprising storming the gates of VFK. It would be lots of fun.
I too would love to see a swarm of baby ducks eat the Eiffel Tower
But it seems unlikely "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1070
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:41:00 -
[70] - Quote
IDGAD wrote:Sato Page wrote:You could train in to bomber/recon/black op and join a good corp. This way you can kill null ratter for fun!
Oh what? CCP nerfed black op battleship? Too bad, I guess you should just run more L4 missions. How were Blops supposedly nerfed? by neglect Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
1216
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:43:00 -
[71] - Quote
go little bird....be free
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
927
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:06:00 -
[72] - Quote
This thread is a list of delusionalists.
Goblin, Harry... the Gorila guy is missing. ^^
Anybody else I don't know of yet? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
240
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:09:00 -
[73] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:This thread is a list of delusionalists.
Goblin, Harry... the Gorila guy is missing. ^^
Anybody else I don't know of yet?
Only revolutionary thinkers such as these have any chance of uniting the people against the goon overlords. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3820
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:12:00 -
[74] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:This thread is a list of delusionalists.
Goblin, Harry... the Gorila guy is missing. ^^
Anybody else I don't know of yet?
Wheres Dino?
Oh wait he only responds to imagined GSF influence, not actual existance of anything "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Victor Andall
Heleneto Holdings
430
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:17:00 -
[75] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:The same is about goons: you use protection and never care about them
Just taking this out of context. Don't mind me. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
927
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:56:00 -
[76] - Quote
Amyclas Amatin wrote:Solecist Project wrote:This thread is a list of delusionalists.
Goblin, Harry... the Gorila guy is missing. ^^
Anybody else I don't know of yet? Only revolutionary thinkers such as these have any chance of uniting the people against the goon overlords. Well I sure hope that's sarcasm, because there's nothing revolutionary about these guys.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
927
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:57:00 -
[77] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote:This thread is a list of delusionalists.
Goblin, Harry... the Gorila guy is missing. ^^
Anybody else I don't know of yet? Wheres Dino? Oh wait he only responds to imagined GSF influence, not actual existance of anything Who is Dino? Full names would help too... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3824
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:59:00 -
[78] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote: Who is Dino? Full names would help too...
Dino the Piranha "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1727
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:59:00 -
[79] - Quote
... first cousin to Barney.... same colour, should have been your first clue. 
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3824
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:02:00 -
[80] - Quote
Felicity Love wrote:... first cousin to Barney.... same colour, should have been your first clue.  SUIT UP BRO "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
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