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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2006.05.22 12:12:00 -
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Amarr is prolly the best balanced race of all.
Lasers have intergrated damage bonus so BS dont need another damage bonus
No ammo required, only cap
Armor tankers to the bone (more cap efficient)
The 2 most versatile HACs of all
Frigs that can do nearly everything be it mining, pvp or npc¦ing
Not to mention the Faction versions of amarr ships like nightmare, bhaalgorn or even the succubus are ships that dont need nerfing or boosting cuz they are all fine as they are.
You should be happy to have chosen amarr.
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GrimGiggler
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Posted - 2006.05.22 12:20:00 -
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Isn't the title of this thread "Why choose Amarr race?" I'm missing where the ship has to do with the race. I must be slow. Can't any race fly any ship with the right training? So ...what were we talking about again? I'm confused.
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Sommner
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Posted - 2006.05.22 12:36:00 -
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 Originally by: GrimGiggler
Isn't the title of this thread "Why choose Amarr race?" I'm missing where the ship has to do with the race. I must be slow. Can't any race fly any ship with the right training? So ...what were we talking about again? I'm confused.
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Another reason for choosing Amarr...
So Minmatar can scream "OMGWTF slaver scum BBQ" at you 
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Edward Sarum
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Posted - 2006.05.22 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: Edward Sarum on 22/05/2006 12:52:09
Why choose Amarr?
- Best background story in the game thus makes for easy RP.
- One of the two best RP community races in the game, the other being Minmatar
- Some of the coolest looking ships in the game
- Lasers need no ammo
- The Amarr are the JR Ewing of EVE, every body LOVES to hate them
- Serving God beats working for some corporate CEO as Caldari
- Serving God beats walking a street corner as Gallantee
- Serving God beats ANYTHING the Minmatar do
This is a fairly short list but I think it makes the point :-)
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Rawr Cristina
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Posted - 2006.05.22 14:46:00 -
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the only downside i can think of about Amarr is their damage types - they do GREAT damage, but you're strictly limited to EM and Thermal. this SERIOUSLY reduces their effectiveness vs any armor tanks, and since all but caldari armor tank, they're a bit under-par. Tach apoc vs Rail mega - mega will win every time :(
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Deacan Wildfire
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Posted - 2006.05.22 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Deacan Wildfire on 22/05/2006 14:46:52
May as well add my voice. I fly amarr ships almost exclusively, never had any problems.
The only thing I feel is nerfed is my face.
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Sarah Aubry
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Posted - 2006.05.22 16:20:00 -
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Nero Winger, didnt you say you were leaving?
Also please checkout Google Translate
We (english speaking folk) will be able to understand you a lot better if you do.
Thanks :)
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Petwraith
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Posted - 2006.05.22 16:44:00 -
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Grez
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Posted - 2006.05.22 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 22/05/2006 17:06:58
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
Originally by: Grez
Second is the fact that Tachyon beams aren't really that great compaired to Megabeams. But that's having some time spent on it. It's only being beefed by 5%, and if that's not enough, I'm sure they'll take another look at them after that.
Maybe it is just me, but to me it seems that giving one race 32% more DoT out to about 190km than the next best non-Amarr sniper is not completely balanced... Even the current 25% is a bit iffy. (3-damage mod 'geddon vs 4-damage mod Megathron - Mega does have one more low slot free, but nothing it can fit there really helps.)
We may be able to hit out to 190km. But we need to use Aurora ammo & T2 weapons for that. And it isn't that great damage-wise compaired to other long range ammo. We get a serious damage reduction over range that other races don't. Also don't forget that Amarr ships don't really excel in close range combat (battleship-wise anyways), since Megapulse really have trouble hitting at closer than 15-20km, whereas other races have no problems with their short range turrets (launchers don't have that problem).
It balances out just fine.
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Bacchuss
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Posted - 2006.05.22 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
The usefulness of amarr in the game is
1. Best beginner hauler - Bestower
2. Best carrying hauler - Impel + all cargo expanders
3. Best Looter ship - Sigil with AB and all nano's
4. Best Ganker Battleship - Geddon
5. Best PvE Ship for uber spawns - Archon
6. Best Anti-Hac setup 1v1 - Sacrilege
Though with that said, the work best is subjecive, since any ship can be "best" if you change the paramiters. But overall, Amarr is a good race for a generalist.
I would disagree on 5 and 6, best antihack 1v1 is ishtar, and best PvE for uber spawns in thantos
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Messerschmitt facility
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Posted - 2006.05.22 18:06:00 -
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Gallente outdamges amarr, gallente has higher range than amarr, gallente has better drone bay than amarr. Gallente got to much love in the last patches with the new ships having more med slots for EW, while amarr have been nerfed since they boosted EM and droped Thermal on lasers, the minmatar laughs in your face when they fly T2 ships with 95% EM rezistance and 80% Thermal and amarr has stupid bonuses on battleships like 10% capacitor use and 5% more capacitor unlike the megatron let's say that got 5% damage and 5% tracking. (more tracking now since the tracking was also boosted).
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.05.22 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Messerschmitt facility
Gallente outdamges amarr, gallente has higher range than amarr, gallente has better drone bay than amarr. Gallente got to much love in the last patches with the new ships having more med slots for EW, while amarr have been nerfed since they boosted EM and droped Thermal on lasers, the minmatar laughs in your face when they fly T2 ships with 95% EM rezistance and 80% Thermal and amarr has stupid bonuses on battleships like 10% capacitor use and 5% more capacitor unlike the megatron let's say that got 5% damage and 5% tracking. (more tracking now since the tracking was also boosted).
Yes and while the amarr get that built-in 5% damage bonus to their lasers and actually out-damage the gallente (arma) or come very close (apoc), the gallente do not get a built in 5% capacitor use bonus to their guns.
And we can go on for weeks like this.
And the end of the day the fact remains that the amarr pertty much rule hte upper short range up and untill the long range with their good tracking, good damage, fast switching turrets on the apoc, and the same plus another damage bonus with their armageddon. They also get improved tanking abilities, more hitpoints, and less need for extreme skill levels in their gunnery specialisation to do maximum damage (apoc).
The gallente get a damage type thats preferable over em (kinetic), slightly more drones (that are useless at anything but pve and short range combat even now), but deal with the same issue of their counter-race having high resist against their primary damage types. they also suck worse at short range, do about evenish as long and slightly better at extremely long range.
All in all that's decently balanced imo, if it weren't for the armageddon with its rof bonus that screws things up nicely in the BS class.
Since that mostly affects the short-medium range the boosts to blaster use for gallente is very much in place, as are the tracking bonus increases since they did less then even the playing field in tracking even at lvl 5 skill compared to the amarr.
Can we now stop the useless argument, all turret using races get one or mroe boosts this patch, and those that need it the most (typhoon excepted) are the ones that get improved the most.
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Teeta Sabes
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Teeta Sabes on 23/05/2006 21:22:17
Originally by: Rod Blaine
They also get improved tanking abilities, more hitpoints, and less need for extreme skill levels in their gunnery specialisation to do maximum damage (apoc).
sorry, not true. the same skills for tech2 weapons as all other races by less damage output on laserturrets.
just a fact: the weakest NPCs and the easiest to tank NPCs and easiest to destroy NPCs are Amarr ship class NPCs. every missionrunner agree on that.
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Cocyte
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:50:00 -
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If amarr ships and lasers sucks that bad, tell me why I'm spending 3/4 of my time in a zealot? If amarr ships and lasers sucks that bad, tell me why I'm spending 3/4 of my time in a zealot?
I'm able to use both gallente and amarr HACs, and i've got an ishtar... somewhere... I only use it when I really need the extra med slots.
Originally by: Wrayeth
The Zealot, the Arazu, and the Absolution also excel.
Arazu is still gallente :p You should replace it by pilgrim or curse.
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