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Iosue
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Posted - 2014.05.06 22:37:00 -
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first, i think removing the mining bonus from the industrial core altogether would go a long way to making these more usable in belts. just let them have the link bonus without going into siege mode. they don't have a combat role, so it makes little sense to encourage their deployment in harm's way. this also means a rorq pilot could be in belt, but be constantly aligned to a pos or station while still giving good bonuses and scooping cans at range.
secondly, i think the align time could be trimmed a bit, to help with some gtfo when uninvited guests show up.
finally, some type of EWAR immunity (as Tau mentioned above) or even extended range on an EMC burst would help in tight spots. |
Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
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Posted - 2014.05.07 03:14:00 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:I disagree cause with that you're pretty much killing the orca's function. no removal of the indy core cause that takes the heart of the rorq out of it I mean really removal its only module? no hec no, although you touched up on it abit.. how come folks assume warping in that fat beast is just as fast as the AB/MWD 10s warp trick.. its not.. these fat boys/girls shouldn't even be close to a belt.
if they want it in a belt, then they should remove the restrictions and allow them in high sec.
the orca still has plenty of function in hi sec. besides, i'm not advocating removal of the industrial core, i just don't think we need to have the link bonuses tied to the core. the core could still be used for compression, or possibly another role. |
Iosue
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Posted - 2014.05.07 20:53:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Survive what long enough? That's the problem with drops. You have no idea what's coming. Quite a few fly with both regular and covert cyno too. Could be a Titan nearby. Who knows.
this exactly. imo, the rorq needs to be pushed toward evasion, not fighting. it makes no sense to turn this into a combat ship, there are plenty of other ships that can handle offense/defense. besides, one hot drop with a few supers will completely nullify any combat bonus these guys get. |
Iosue
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Posted - 2014.05.07 22:27:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:I do not think that is the point of the desire to get it into belt.
Get it into belt so it can avoid the reason we want to get it into belt? Seems unlikely they will go in this direction.
Supers can't get into cyno jammed system, so the direction has to be: able to keep itself and mining fleet alive long enough for counter attack, in cyno jammed system, where risks are black ops and roaming gangs.
personally, the reason i'd put my rorq in a belt would be to pick up ore and provide boosts (assuming they remove off-grid boosting as a part of these changes). i have no desire to use it as some kind of last-man standing defense-base to stand my ground while surrounded by a bunch of barges and exhumers.
furthermore, i can't imagine what kind of push back they'll get from small gang and blops pilots when they find out their shiny pew machines won't be able to stand up against a fleet of mining barges, lol. |
Iosue
Empyrean Guard
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Posted - 2014.07.22 20:39:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote: Say for example a Skiff could be fit with a very respectable PVP fit. Not better than a ship designed for it, but enough to make gankers stop and think, is this miner worth my time?, possibly a PVP fit ship, it could just be a trap? Or even give it both, maybe allow strip miners to target other ships,do damage, or tackle, perhaps disabling their warp drive, or preventing capitals from jumping. Something to add combat utility.
what you describe only works in hi-sec during ganking situations. any procurer mining in null when reds or neuts come in is going to die quickly. maybe a little slower with their larger tank, but they're not going to fend off their attackers by themselves. their ability to fit even a respectable PVP tank won't have the slightest effect on those looking for *gud fights* in low or null sec. |
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