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Jerick Ludhowe	Posted - 2006.05.26 12:56:00 - [61] Originally by: Meridius Originally by: Deathbarrage deimos still sux (btw you could actually fit this before the changes) and a zealot pilot would eat this deimos alive And an Ishtar would eat a Zealot alive. So you want 2 ships that can *****a Zealot? Cry me a river K, nerf Ishtar and boost deimos then.
Nadec Ascand	Posted - 2006.05.26 13:03:00 - [62] coming with this change I can now fit 4 heavy neutron 2 2 heavy diminishing 1 web 1 scramble 1 ab T2 (sorry dudes i like AB better than mwd) 2 RCU T2 1 med rep T2 1 400mm plate named 1 armor explosive hardener T2 and 1 energized adaptative nano membrane T2 This sounds quite correct. Yeah i only reach 500m/S but i dont have an hudge sign radius and wont take as much dmg as i do with mwd, i use null ammo and my worst resistance is 70%... this with 3300 armor hp
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.05.26 13:06:00 - [63] Originally by: Nadec Ascand coming with this change I can now fit 4 heavy neutron 2 2 heavy diminishing 1 web 1 scramble 1 ab T2 (sorry dudes i like AB better than mwd) 2 RCU T2 1 med rep T2 1 400mm plate named 1 armor explosive hardener T2 and 1 energized adaptative nano membrane T2 This sounds quite correct. Yeah i only reach 500m/S but i dont have an hudge sign radius and wont take as much dmg as i do with mwd, i use null ammo and my worst resistance is 70%... this with 3300 armor hp you will die to a thorax!!!!!!!! -------------------Sig----------------------- welcome to eve, a game for the unemployed, the t2 bpo winners, GTC sellers, macro miners and agent *****s
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.05.26 13:07:00 - [64] Originally by: Nadec Ascand coming with this change I can now fit 4 heavy neutron 2 2 heavy diminishing 1 web 1 scramble 1 ab T2 (sorry dudes i like AB better than mwd) 2 RCU T2 1 med rep T2 1 400mm plate named 1 armor explosive hardener T2 and 1 energized adaptative nano membrane T2 This sounds quite correct. Yeah i only reach 500m/S but i dont have an hudge sign radius and wont take as much dmg as i do with mwd, i use null ammo and my worst resistance is 70%... this with 3300 armor hp 2 RCU's Spirits in the night! ALLLLL NIGHT!!!
Alasse Cuthalion	Posted - 2006.05.26 13:10:00 - [65] Originally by: LWMaverick Originally by: Nadec Ascand coming with this change I can now fit 4 heavy neutron 2 2 heavy diminishing 1 web 1 scramble 1 ab T2 (sorry dudes i like AB better than mwd) 2 RCU T2 1 med rep T2 1 400mm plate named 1 armor explosive hardener T2 and 1 energized adaptative nano membrane T2 This sounds quite correct. Yeah i only reach 500m/S but i dont have an hudge sign radius and wont take as much dmg as i do with mwd, i use null ammo and my worst resistance is 70%... this with 3300 armor hp 2 RCU's and still only an AB, not an MWD like the ship's designed for use with :\|
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.05.26 13:29:00 - [66] Edited by: Evil Thug on 26/05/2006 13:31:23 Originally by: LUKEC 1. ishtar with 2x wcs fitted will chew you for breakfast... rest t1-t2 stuff Ishtar will chew any hac. Overpowered ECM 4tw. Originally by: LUKEC 2. f-aga with 2x wcs will chew you, guy doesn't even have to bother with staying out of range, he just loads hail and waits Depends on skill, and setup ofc. If vaga will be with ab, if vaga will fit second extender, and ofc, if you`ll start to engage on 20km, mwd to target and then fight - you`ll loose. Will you start to engage crusader or ac-claw, in blasterranis on 20km ? Ofc no. You will try to start fighting on your optimal. Why do you think, that you can do smth different in deimos ? Originally by: LUKEC 3. any bs with 2x heavy nosf + t2 MED drones will pop you, oh wait, even if he has 1x med neut, you will die. Any hac will die, if his cap = 0. You are good pilot. But now - you are just biased. Sorry. ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
Nadec Ascand	Posted - 2006.05.26 13:38:00 - [67] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Originally by: LWMaverick Originally by: Nadec Ascand coming with this change I can now fit 4 heavy neutron 2 2 heavy diminishing 1 web 1 scramble 1 ab T2 (sorry dudes i like AB better than mwd) 2 RCU T2 1 med rep T2 1 400mm plate named 1 armor explosive hardener T2 and 1 energized adaptative nano membrane T2 This sounds quite correct. Yeah i only reach 500m/S but i dont have an hudge sign radius and wont take as much dmg as i do with mwd, i use null ammo and my worst resistance is 70%... this with 3300 armor hp 2 RCU's and still only an AB, not an MWD like the ship's designed for use with :\| may be its supposed to be used with it but ther eis no way i would use a 550% sign radius thing on any ship bigger than an inty... (and even for inty it as to be an intelligent use) 1040 sign radius ... and for the RCU 2 yeah ... cant help deimos miss pg
Gariuys	Posted - 2006.05.26 13:52:00 - [68] Edited by: Gariuys on 26/05/2006 13:53:19 Originally by: Nadec Ascand coming with this change I can now fit 4 heavy neutron 2 2 heavy diminishing 1 web 1 scramble 1 ab T2 (sorry dudes i like AB better than mwd) 2 RCU T2 1 med rep T2 1 400mm plate named 1 armor explosive hardener T2 and 1 energized adaptative nano membrane T2 This sounds quite correct. Yeah i only reach 500m/S but i dont have an hudge sign radius and wont take as much dmg as i do with mwd, i use null ammo and my worst resistance is 70%... this with 3300 armor hp By god man, this ship has like 5 setup threads and you still come up with something this crappy. ( replace neutrons by ions, and 1 RCU with magfield ) And if you know what you're doing the mwd sig penalty doesn't hurt in the least. Atleast not like taking 3 times longer to reach your target will. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Haniblecter Teg	Posted - 2006.05.26 14:05:00 - [69] The CPU changes were ment to allow you to fit neutrons easier, not to fit Ions + super tankage. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
Alex Harumichi	Posted - 2006.05.26 14:11:00 - [70] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg The CPU changes were ment to allow you to fit neutrons easier, not to fit Ions + super tankage. Well, a lot of things in this game are "meant to be" one way but prove to work quite differently in practice. The Ares is "mean to be" a tackler. Ho ho ho.
Shinnen	Posted - 2006.05.26 14:21:00 - [71] Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar Isn't it time for another setup page? Blaster changes means a tincy wincy bit more cpu left available, as well as more damage and less cap usage. So how have people spent these Extra goodies and what opinions are people having on others approaches? I'll get the ball rolling with the obvious setup - as i haven't had much of a chance to get down and dirty with my deimos: PvP setup: HI 5x Heavy Ion II's MID: 1x 10mn MWD II 1x Web 1x Scrambler Low: 1x MAR II 1x EMP (active) Hardner 1x Explosive (active) Hardner 1x cpr 2x Magnetic Stablizers /me goes to find a zealot pilot. You could fit that very similar pre patch Plus that setup is wrong you need a damage control unit where the EMP hardner is. :P Trust me it works better, get an internal force field array Shinnen ------------------ People that think they know it all, just annoy those of us that do.
Gariuys	Posted - 2006.05.26 14:29:00 - [72] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg The CPU changes were ment to allow you to fit neutrons easier, not to fit Ions + super tankage. Then it failed horribly! ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Angus Torg	Posted - 2006.05.26 14:36:00 - [73] Originally by: Nadec Ascand coming with this change I can now fit 4 heavy neutron 2 2 heavy diminishing ... I am absolutely sure, you meant Medium Diminishing Power System Drain. Otherwise... WTB: Deimos with 5000 PG! Until then i will use it for 0.0 ratting.
Nadec Ascand	Posted - 2006.05.26 14:37:00 - [74] Edited by: Nadec Ascand on 26/05/2006 14:37:27 Originally by: Gariuys By god man, this ship has like 5 setup threads and you still come up with something this crappy. ( replace neutrons by ions, and 1 RCU with magfield ) And if you know what you're doing the mwd sig penalty doesn't hurt in the least. Atleast not like taking 3 times longer to reach your target will. Tread is about neutron... Right now if i had something to do i will go for 5 heavy ion T2 with void 1 1 ab T2 1 web 1 scramble strengh 2 1 med armor T2 1 exp hardener T2 1 energized nano T2 1 400mm plate 2 mag stab T2 will warp at 10km max coz of my friend as im working in duo Will have 450 dps and will pown ur ass... hu yeah medium not heavy ... repeat after me heavy blaster medium nos heavy blaster medium nos
Gariuys	Posted - 2006.05.26 14:51:00 - [75] Thread was about deimos owning again, cause of changes that hardly affect it, and don't solve it's problems, ofcourse I can fit neutrons to a deimos, and lose a 200mil ( more now? ) uninsurable coffin in 2 seconds flat. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Necrologic	Posted - 2006.05.26 15:05:00 - [76] Originally by: Nadec Ascand Edited by: Nadec Ascand on 26/05/2006 14:37:27 Originally by: Gariuys By god man, this ship has like 5 setup threads and you still come up with something this crappy. ( replace neutrons by ions, and 1 RCU with magfield ) And if you know what you're doing the mwd sig penalty doesn't hurt in the least. Atleast not like taking 3 times longer to reach your target will. Tread is about neutron... Right now if i had something to do i will go for 5 heavy ion T2 with void 1 1 ab T2 1 web 1 scramble strengh 2 1 med armor T2 1 exp hardener T2 1 energized nano T2 1 400mm plate 2 mag stab T2 will warp at 10km max coz of my friend as im working in duo Will have 450 dps and will pown ur ass... hu yeah medium not heavy ... repeat after me heavy blaster medium nos heavy blaster medium nos That's pritty low dps for void. I'd fly a standard deimos kit (2 electron/3ion, med nos, mwd, web, disrupt, rep, explo, dmg contr, 2x dmg mod, 1x pud, 5x valks) and easily beat you because of my mwd, even if you started out at 10km. You need a mwd unless you are being warped in onto a bs or bc with no propulsion mod.
darth solo	Posted - 2006.05.26 16:03:00 - [77] Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: Sarmaul does anyone have a deimos setup that doesn't get slapped about by an automuninn or vaga yet? ive taken out auto muninn in a thorax before and no he was not a noob, infact he was a -10 pirate supposidly hunting me, auto muninn is total crap... d solo. not everyone has what it takes to be a member of celes, do you?. join here.
Nadec Ascand	Posted - 2006.05.26 16:45:00 - [78] Originally by: Necrologic Originally by: Nadec Ascand Edited by: Nadec Ascand on 26/05/2006 14:37:27 Originally by: Gariuys By god man, this ship has like 5 setup threads and you still come up with something this crappy. ( replace neutrons by ions, and 1 RCU with magfield ) And if you know what you're doing the mwd sig penalty doesn't hurt in the least. Atleast not like taking 3 times longer to reach your target will. Tread is about neutron... Right now if i had something to do i will go for 5 heavy ion T2 with void 1 1 ab T2 1 web 1 scramble strengh 2 1 med armor T2 1 exp hardener T2 1 energized nano T2 1 400mm plate 2 mag stab T2 will warp at 10km max coz of my friend as im working in duo Will have 450 dps and will pown ur ass... hu yeah medium not heavy ... repeat after me heavy blaster medium nos heavy blaster medium nos That's pritty low dps for void. I'd fly a standard deimos kit (2 electron/3ion, med nos, mwd, web, disrupt, rep, explo, dmg contr, 2x dmg mod, 1x pud, 5x valks) and easily beat you because of my mwd, even if you started out at 10km. You need a mwd unless you are being warped in onto a bs or bc with no propulsion mod. would be glad to see how u can get better dps with this kind of fitting according that electron are worst than ion wich actually are the best choice. And also according that im not talking about a container or whatever without any resistance but about a standard ship fitting; i get a bit more than 600dps if im not taking resistance into account... u will loose at least 20 dps if using electron and given the 120 amo for each ion ... you wont run out of ammo

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