Yes. For there is only one responsible for my actions, namely me.
Even if I wasn't aware of the consequences or possible later repercussions at the time of those actions.

And I have done some (in hindsight) rather stupid things irl....

I can't believe no one has asked for their stuff yet

Speaking of which

Hmm... some of the guys involved turned themselves in, and still got perma-banned? Not condoning what they did in any way whatsoever, but doesn't such a harsh response disincentivize people in the future from admitting to what they've done while drunk?

CCP should have performed an Ancient Babylonia move - "An eye for an eye."

Since they know who the real life individuals are and their in-game avatar names, if memory serves me correctly, Iceland is known for their smelting of aluminum, then a plasma cutter should be lying around somewhere. So CCP removes the plates that have their names, cleanly cut out their now banished name, and replace the open spot with a blank.

Unless CCP is already pursuing this route, those real life people unwanted by the Eve community are still apart of the monument's naming structure.

CCP should have performed an Ancient Babylonia move - "An eye for an eye."

Since they know who the real life individuals are and their in-game avatar names, if memory serves me correctly, Iceland is known for their smelting of aluminum, then a plasma cutter should be lying around somewhere. So CCP removes the plates that have their names, cleanly cut out their now banished name, and replace the open spot with a blank.

Unless CCP is already pursuing this route, those real life people unwanted by the Eve community are still apart of the monument's naming structure.

Being drunk is not an excuse for doing stupid things, nor is it a "well thanks for turning yourself in, have a cookie" card. At least those who turned themselves in had some sort of moral compass to aim by, but you won't escape the fact that all actions have consequences. And unfortunately, the consequence here was a permanent ban. They'll have to deal with that.

Maybe an incentive to not get plastered off their faces...

[quote=Guttripper]CCP should have performed an Ancient Babylonia move - "An eye for an eye."

Since they know who the real life individuals are and their in-game avatar names, if memory serves me correctly, Iceland is known for their smelting of aluminum, then a plasma cutter should be lying around somewhere. So CCP removes the plates that have their names, cleanly cut out their now banished name, and replace the open spot with a blank.

Unless CCP is already pursuing this route, those real life people unwanted by the Eve community are still apart of the monument's naming structure.

As such, three individuals have been permanently removed from the EVE Community. A total of 7 EVE Online accounts, and 1 DUST 514 account belonging to them have been permanently banned. Another individual who was indirectly involved in the vandalism has received a 6 month ban from EVE Online on their sole registered account.

Hmm... some of the guys involved turned themselves in, and still got perma-banned? Not condoning what they did in any way whatsoever, but doesn't such a harsh response disincentivize people in the future from admitting to what they've done while drunk?

I feel like I'm missing something, did they catch the people who did this? Were there several persons involved?

Did you actually read the part you quoted?

how many people does it take to scratch an aluminum plate

four, apparently

Can you name and shame the characters? Nothing more, just character names. Probably not, but this seems like a situation where identifying the people who did this by their in-game characters would be cool. Name and shame is probably appropriate here.

Can you name and shame the characters? Nothing more, just character names. Probably not, but this seems like a situation where identifying the people who did this by their in-game characters would be cool. Name and shame is probably appropriate here.

While my curiosity is itching, I don't think that's a good idea. Since they are perma-banned, what could be gained, except harassing their corp/alliance who did the right thing by turning them in?

>only cfc and pets are complaining about the permaban
>cfc and pets were the first to retweet that fake gevlon account

GEEE I wonder who did it ?! Can you guys guess ?

This doesn't really explain the part where the perp's own alliance mates turned them in. That being the case it doesn't make much sense for us to then complain about them being banned too long, or for that matter try to frame Gevlon in the first place.

The only objections to the permaban are on the basis that leniency should have been applied for any perp that turned themselves/the others in. Carrot and stick more easily gets a mule to move than just the stick.

What steps has CCP taken (or plans to take) to prevent future abuse/vandalism of the monument?

That's not to say that being drunk is an excise. I know plenty of people who got sloshed at FI (self included) and didn't feel the end to deface the monument. Deface my own pride, sure, but a monument? That's low.