So you are saying that nerfing drone interfacing has no effect on the items that drone interfacing effects? That doesn't logically make sense.

it has been addressed several times.
nerfing drone interfacing is a nerf to drone interfacing, not the gecko.

no, i'm not saying that at all. read what i wrote.

I did, You said that a nerf to drone interfacing is not a nerf to the gecko, which can only be true if drone interfacing has no effect on the gecko.

You obviously missed the part where Caldari drones are getting a HUGE tracking and speed bonus, so they will be able to more effectively apply their DPS, putting them on-part with Gallente and Minmatar drones.

Last time I checked, Geckos are technically Caldari.

You obviously missed the part where Caldari drones are getting a HUGE tracking and speed bonus, so they will be able to more effectively apply their DPS, putting them on-part with Gallente and Minmatar drones.

Last time I checked, Geckos are technically Caldari.

I'm not unhappy with it as is or as will be after the drone interfacing change. My participation has nothing to do with dissatisfaction with what will hit like a pair of ogre II's while being faster and tracking better.

Edit: To be clear, my position is that a negative change is happening to the gecko through a factor external to it, which qualifies as a nerf to it, which is a fact that is in no way related to my opinion as to whether it will be still desirable afterwards.

I did, You said that a nerf to drone interfacing is not a nerf to the gecko, which can only be true if drone interfacing has no effect on the gecko.

Can you not understand that the Gecko's stats were created in the first place with the Drone Interfacing change in mind?

because a nerf to drone interfacing isn't a nerf to the gecko.
a nerf to drone interfacing is a nerf to drone interfacing.
it's true because the gecko just flat out isn't being nerfed, or changed in any way.

seriously, read the thread before you post things that have already been addressed (repeatedly).

So you are saying that drone interfacing has no effect on the gecko? You still haven't addressed that directly, or the reasoning of how, if the 2 are related, DI changing can't buff or nerf the gecko (or any other drone for that matter).

no, i'm saying the drone interfacing nerf isn't a nerf to the gecko (again).

the 2 being related is irrelevant. the gecko simply isn't being nerfed.

So you are saying that drone interfacing has no effect on the gecko? You still haven't addressed that directly, or the reasoning of how, if the 2 are related, DI changing can't buff or nerf the gecko (or any other drone for that matter).

Drone Interfacing modifies all drones. Thus DI being nerfed isn't nerfing the Gecko it is nerfing all drones equally. You have, for some reason, chosen to fixate on the Gecko in isolation to all other drones. The Gecko is receiving a temporary buff compared to all other drones, since its stats are based on Kronos rebalancing, while the other drones have yet to be altered for Kronos.

Please, quit the trolling. It's not funny.

How can that be if drone interfacing has an effect on the gecko? How do you justify divorcing an item from everything that effects it?

how can it be? very simply. it just isn't getting nerfed. it's not getting changed.
i don't understand why you're having such a hard time understanding that if something doesn't change, it doesn't get nerfed.

Jarod! DONT...!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx2jq184&gl=GB&hl=en-GB

Because, as stated before, it doesn't exist in isolation. There are factors which have constant effects on it. The only way those factors can't nerf or buff the items they effect is if the definition of "nerf" explicitly says they don't or explicitly says altering the item itself is the only way it can be caused. I've not found a definition that satisfies either.

the gecko isn't getting changed.
you can't nerf something that isn't getting changed.

Changing something isn't limited to it's base stats.

you either change it or you don't, and in kronos the gecko isn't being changed. (or nerfed)

Changing something isn't limited to it's base stats.

repeating things, doesn't change facts.

the gecko still isn't getting nerfed (and it's still not getting changed since it already has it's kronos stats as per fozzie's tweets)

Which doesn't change the fact that the drone is changing by way of the changes to drone interfacing. which is changing in Kronos.

Edit: Do you have a source for that definition of nerf which excludes all but the base stats of something?

the done isn't changing though, as we've been told by ccp.

Do you have a source for that definition of nerf which excludes all but the base stats of something? If not that means external changes, such as the one to DI still count.

the definition is irrelevant, you can't nerf something if it isn't changing.
also, of course there's no source. the word doesn't actually exist in the english language, it's slang.

Again bringing up another comparable scenario, would nerfing controlled bursts not be a nerf to lasers or hybrids?

no, you just clearly said it's a nerf to controlled bursts.
hopefully your example illustrates to you why the gecko isn't being nerfed.