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IVeige
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Posted - 2006.05.26 18:31:00 -
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me proud to be a carebear.
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Ulle
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Posted - 2006.05.26 18:32:00 -
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A carebear is someone who developed a phobia for game risks that goes beyond the normal precaution. As such, he can only play by totally eliminating risks from the game equation, and if he can't he will simply quit and move to another game.
He will never enter a pvp area, or if he'll ever do it it will be as a sniper at max distance, aligned and ready to flee at the first hint of a risk, or in big teams of the same kind hunting for lone players. As a trader he will play in the safety of npcs market, on those areas where competition is low or not existant and rewards safe more than high. As a pve'r, he will follow religiously mission spoilers and do only those listed there, and warp away if something isn't going as expected, even if he brought way more firepower and armor than what was really needed.
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Na'Thuul
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:15:00 -
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Ginger Magician 
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:34:00 -
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I don't really care for the usage of the word "carebear" to denote players who are friendly, supportive and helpful to other players as oppose to just steamrolling right over them with uber ships and weapons so you can show off on killboards. Unfortunatly we have very few heros, liberators, champions of justice, etc. so basically all non-pirates get lumped together as weak non-PvPing "carebears". Well there are those of us who do care about our fellow upstanding EVE citizens and we are willing to be proactive about it. Nothing fluffy about that. Certainly as well we would like to have game dynamics that favor the good as equally as the evil. Nothing fluffy about that either.
I make cool banners for ISK.
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Kilo Paskaa
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: Kilo Paskaa on 26/05/2006 19:46:59
Edited by: Kilo Paskaa on 26/05/2006 19:45:07
 Originally by: Vincent Gaines
Originally by: Kilo Paskaa
Anyone who doesnt get his money from pvp.
IMO running around in 0.0 in an indy takes more balls than doing it in a BS or HAC.
but hey, I make my ISK through selling goods, and not actual fighting.
Well running in 0.0 in an indy is same as gate ganking in empire. Profitable.
Edit: uh i hope that by indy you meant interceptor. Not industrial. Well flying industrial in 0.0 is risky, but still you make most of your iskies from mining or trading as you said.
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kilo Paskaa
Edited by: Kilo Paskaa on 26/05/2006 19:46:59
Edited by: Kilo Paskaa on 26/05/2006 19:45:07
Originally by: Vincent Gaines
Originally by: Kilo Paskaa
Anyone who doesnt get his money from pvp.
IMO running around in 0.0 in an indy takes more balls than doing it in a BS or HAC.
but hey, I make my ISK through selling goods, and not actual fighting.
Well running in 0.0 in an indy is same as gate ganking in empire. Profitable.
Edit: uh i hope that by indy you meant interceptor. Not industrial. Well flying industrial in 0.0 is risky, but still you make most of your iskies from mining or trading as you said.
no, I ment Indy, as in industrial.
for us that fly in 0.0 with ships that are in no way geared for combat, and that fly in empire during wars and don't stay docked, I'd love to see the reasoning behind calling them/us a carebear.
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Brem Watson
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Brem Watson on 26/05/2006 20:25:47
I guess I'm not a carebear then. I run missions and go into low sec space to PvP.
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Theocrates
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:29:00 -
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I don't like the word Carebear. Its a relic of the age of seperate servers for PVP/PVE and has no place in eve. Indeed many people here are using it as a derogitory name for behavior that already has names better suited to use. In essence, the only thing this thread uses Carebear for is a slang term to slander people. I find it odd that people want agreement on this term and frankly wonder why in the world they would even bother. If you are doing something that annoys me to the point that I'm going to call you a name I assure you there are far many more appropriate terms.
If you label people as Carebear are there then Carebear Modules? Ships?
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Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:32:00 -
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For me the carebear is the person with no wish to have actions of others affect his gameplay, and little wish to interact with other players in general, let alone that interaction involving some kind of risk to him 
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Xannder Phienyx
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:34:00 -
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To me, a carebear is a player who whines, cries when bad things happen to them that are part of the game and think that they should be immune from the pvp aspects of the universe in which they exist.
It absolutely ok to engage in a style of play that is mainly based in activites that do not regularly involve dangerous activities. However the differnce between this type of player and a carebear, is that a non-carebear will not complain if they run into a little heat and will either be able to deal with it, or strategically avoid it.
I DO NOT believe that someone that simply wishes to make one of the other aspects of the game their main activity, makes a person a carebear.
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Lisento Slaven
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:38:00 -
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To me a carebear is anyone devoted to protecting other people from players who kill for no reason other than to kill.
AKA Anti-Pirate Security Corporations..."Concord without the shiney toys."
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:45:00 -
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i am carebear
thx Exekias for cool sig
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
i am carebear
Me too. 
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Makhan
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Severall
A tired cliche, used by the less-than-clever to try to insult or goad others.
And no that's not 'smack', or because I take offense to the term. I just think it's used too often & in too many different contexts, so it's pretty much meaningless.
Take a different game, where you could click something and 'disable' PvP. In that game it would mean something. In Eve it's just used to claim some sort of ideological superiority, which makes the user seem pathetic usually.
What he said.
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Karma
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Posted - 2006.05.26 21:24:00 -
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for me, a carebear is...
someone who passively/aggresively petition for removal of PvP.
common sentence uttered by Carebear would be: "I wish they'd remove PvP completely from the game'.
negative terms should be reserved for negative-type people. :P
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.05.26 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Karma
negative terms should be reserved for negative-type people. :P
Riiiight, I'll remember that next WCS whine thread I see or the next time I hear pirates *****ing whenever someone suggests that a 150% of the game mechanics should not be in their favor. 
I make cool banners for ISK.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.05.26 21:59:00 -
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been a caerbear is nothing to do with your ingame carrer...you can mine ore mission run 23/7 dont make you a caerbear. a caerbear is some one who can not or will not take responsiblity for their own saftey in a pvp based game (and for those with limited intelect there is more types of pvp than just shooting).
now a typical caerbear response to any in game character action which interferes in their game play without their express permission will be one of the following
1) insult and generlise every pvp'er (i.e. you all 14 yr old pimply loosers living in you mamas basement) while complaining of people doing the same to caerbears
2) post in eve o for the game to be changed i.e. OMG I GOT SHOT I WANT EVE TO ARRANGE FOR A SAS HIT SQUAD TO KILL EVERY ONE WHO LOCKS ON TO ME OR I WILL QUIT WAAAAAA
3) rant and rave and issue rl threats
4) hire assasins to kill the mean pvper who killed them
instead of growin a pair and accepting these events as part of the game they chose to play and pay for...they do their upmost to destroy it so they can be risk free.
to me caerbears are the biggest scum and the largets threat eve faces...god help us if the devs loose their minds and listen to them
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Jack Kevorkian
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Posted - 2006.05.27 00:06:00 -
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Carebear = crybaby to me. PVP has nothing to do with it.
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.05.27 01:24:00 -
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Any PVE activity is considered carebearing except buying off market of cos 
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Ellie Bloomberg
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Posted - 2006.05.27 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Ellie Bloomberg on 27/05/2006 02:06:38
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4) hire assasins to kill the mean pvper who killed them
That's not being a carebear, that's utilizing the market to achieve desired outcomes. You go ahead and spend your money on the biggest and the best, I'll spend mine to exact revenge if you hull/pod me.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.05.27 02:08:00 -
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does any^1 know what "carebear" actually means?
i dont mean a definiton, i just cant translate the word carebear as i could translate the word "door" for me.
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Valarkin
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Posted - 2006.05.27 02:09:00 -
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Edited by: Valarkin on 27/05/2006 02:09:02
It's not difficult, care bears, bears who care.
See http://www.care-bears.com/CareBears/html/index.html
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.05.27 07:34:00 -
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4) hire assasins to kill the mean pvper who killed them
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That's not being a carebear, that's utilizing the market to achieve desired outcomes. You go ahead and spend your money on the biggest and the best, I'll spend mine to exact revenge if you hull/pod me.
my fault i should of explained myself better...i meant hire RL assasins to kill him in RL...which is how serious some of the scum take this game (the amount of death threats and stuff like i hope u die in rl caerbears come out with is pathetic)
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Kunming
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Posted - 2006.05.27 07:57:00 -
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Carebears:
Ppl that avoid risk at all cost. This includes high-sec dwellers, low sec gate campers and alliance *****s who leave at any sight of trouble, which reminds me... we need an employment history for corps to see in which alliances they were and for how long.
Its so hard to find good ppl these days, too much single player content invites too many carebears.
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Rochel Hakiri
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Posted - 2006.05.27 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rick Dentill
A colourful fluffy bear, from my early childhood, think my sister had a knockoff of one. They had hearts on their chests, and with one exception spent all their time being happy.
exactly goes together with "my little pony"
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Alaire Dunsane
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Posted - 2006.05.27 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 26/05/2006 07:38:10
for me carebears are ..
.. those who prefer to whine than to adapt
.. those who think PvP is griefing
.. those who think market is not PvP
.. those who play the game like it's a singleplayer game
.. those who think everything in EvE should be
consensual and safe
imho carebears are NOT ..
.. industrialist which understand the essence of the
game
.. miners/npcers who know the risks and adapt to them
That nails it ... What it comes down to for me are those that refuse to accept that you need to risk in order to pick up the reward. Miners/industrualists do risk ... just a different type than the PvPer.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2006.05.27 19:33:00 -
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A carebear is someone who avoids risk.
It is possible for many individuals to pvp all day long without risk to their respective budget.
Generally, only groups can be carebears or not. Individuals just really aren't able to risk much of lasting significance. You can't destroy or stop an individual, but you can wreck an organization, or a project.
If you can wreck a project or an organization but you don't have one of your own, you cannot exclude yourself from being categorized as a carebear.
The isk is often meaningless. The connections between playes.. everything.
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Lord TMac
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Posted - 2006.05.27 20:18:00 -
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A television show that I used to watch when I was little. It had numerous colorful bears who rode in cloud cars, shot rainbow powers out of their stomachs, and helped people who were feeling down. They also fought evil doers but I forget who.
Heck, I enjoyed it.
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Virvana Sharpur
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Posted - 2006.05.28 03:38:00 -
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Edited by: Virvana Sharpur on 28/05/2006 03:42:23
Edited by: Virvana Sharpur on 28/05/2006 03:39:59
We are all carebears. If you are not a "carebear," you cannot advance here in EVE.
The key word here is "care." To tell you the truth, I don't know of anyone in the game who doesn't approach their game with care. From the CEO of the largest PvP alliance, to the meanest pacifist noob, we all approach the game with care, because its important to us all.
I have heard that "carebears" are those who do not take risks. However, I do not know of anyone in EVE who doesn't take great care to minimize their risk. You'd be considered far worse that a "carebear" if you do not. You'd be a fool, a liability, and an object of ridicule. Contrary to popular opinion, risk does not entail reward. Risk is putting one's destiny in fortune, rather than careful planning.
I have heard that "carebears" are those who do not PvP. However, the names that players who PvP unprepared receive are far worse. "Moron" comes to mind. "Unreliable" comes to mind. "Statistic" comes to mind, and "loser" comes to mind. Which is exactly why PvP players take great care to maximize their efficacy.
I have heard that "carebears" are those who take their complaints here to the forums. They could just quit, and perhaps many do. Yet they care enough about what is going on here to post. Truly, I have seen many players post about things concerning their alliance, or game changes, or to advertise for their corporations. They too are carebears, for they care about using the forums to maximum advantage.
I agree with the person who said that the term "carebear" is overused, and I agree. Players who don't care about what they are doing here, and not placing themselves and their friends in the best position possible are not players we want around us, and are not players we want to be.
And because we care about making smart decisions, and maximizing our enjoyment, we are all open to being called "carebears." It doesn't matter if you are a flashing pirate, or a ten month old veteran out of the State War Academy. If you care about minimizing your losses, and maximizing your gains, you are a "carebear."
Carebears, all of us.
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Chy Malik
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Posted - 2006.05.28 04:59:00 -
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Carebear?
Simple. An insult with no real meaning. Everyone else is a carebear.
Think risk means anything? Yeah, gatecampers assume a lot of risk. The odds of losing a ship in a gatecamp is about the same as any mission runner gets. As do pirates who tackle industrial ships trying to ninja mine in lowsec. You aren't looking for PVP, very few people are, you're looking for "Player vs Straw Dummy". You don't send in tacklers because it helps make things more exciting, you're removing options from your opposition until they have no course of action but to be crushed before your overwhelming numbers.
As I said, everyone that is not you is a carebear.
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