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Wotar
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:40:00 -
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 Originally by: var'ulfur
its funnie you have your way of thinking but if the so called care bears stoped making ships, mods, weapons, ammo, you so called non care bears would be fubar.
You lose.
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Andrue
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 26/05/2006 10:43:07
Originally by: var'ulfur
its funnie you have your way of thinking but if the so called care bears stoped making ships, mods, weapons, ammo, you so called non care bears would be fubar.
eve is a game for all stop being so full of yourselfs to think any one type of player is what eve is
Being a manufacturer doesn't make you a carebear - at least not in my book. To be a carebear you need to regularly suggest changing the game in order to solve a problem you have. For bonus points you need to make your posts particularly whiny 
Basically the thing people don't like about carebears is the way they want to inflict their game play style on other players by having the game mechanics changed.
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:48:00 -
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a Carebear, is a stupid looking cartoon character with some sort of magical powers that do stupid things.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: Darcuese on 26/05/2006 11:04:03
My definition of carebear:
Those that spend more then half time in game doing things for themself only not interested what is happening to others.
Its hard to define it, tbh...but this is closes to my view
(But to be fair....those that spend 80% of EVE time--a bit more precise)
DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
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Jaketh Ivanes
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:03:00 -
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Most pirates are carebears, with lows full of WCS and running at the sight of a BS. Especially if it can lock them from the gate 
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Benco97
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:09:00 -
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A carebear is Whining, not Mining
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Daisy Chainsaw
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:14:00 -
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A carebear is someone who does things differently to you and you want to moan about :)
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Oosel
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:26:00 -
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me im one and i dont care....lots of peeps know me and say i would enjoy it so much more if i finally let go of not wanting trash someone elses hard earned labours as they seem to think i would be very good at it.....
never gonna happen in over 3 years of play ive never podded a player once and have only ever returned fire when fired upon
carebear and proud of it thats what charisma is all about 
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Bland Inquisitor
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:33:00 -
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You wanan know a pvpers view on a carebear?
Simple
We mine
We trade
We mission Run
and omgod we make more money than they do, have better ships and usually have more fun
nad where carebears for it
PVPERS suck
Alliances Pwn All
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Dak Hakin
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Dak Hakin on 26/05/2006 11:43:54
Originally by: Maximillian Pele
Edited by: Maximillian Pele on 26/05/2006 08:03:25
Edited by: Maximillian Pele on 26/05/2006 08:02:36
To me a carebear is someone who - when confronted by a challenge within the game - demands that the game and/or other players change to suit THEM!.
Hence the person who demands to jetcan mine without risk in highsec and the "I can't catch anyone - nerf WCS" PvPers are both carebears to me.
A lot of players - including pirates and 0.0 space inhabitants - have alts in empire who take few risks - as well as their harder-cored characters. So to me that invalidates the "stays always in empire" definition of a carebear.
/signed
Then, I also think gate snipers are carebears. No risk PvP, its hardly even PvP at that point.
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Kilo Paskaa
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:39:00 -
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Anyone who doesnt get his money from pvp.
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:50:00 -
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I consider myself a carebear, cuz: a. i don't really care for pvp unless i'm forced to. b. make my cash by running missions and building/selling stuff on market, c. spend most of my time in hi sec.
A few comments though, if my corp(mates) comes under attack and i happen to be around, i join in the fun with cheers and yarrs , i travel through low sec (sometimes even without stabbies on "GASP!!!"), I fullknowingly risk expensive ships (hac/commandships) in (low sec) combat, i haven't touched my barge in weeks/months now, i'm training a 2nd char in pure combat skills only (guy hasn't activated a mininglaser EVER and never will!) allthough this one will eventually assist me on missions as well, i did plan for him to be a pvp char also.
Anyways, if u don't like carebears and u think a carebear is someone that mines, builds/sells items and runs missions then i wonder why ur playing eve at all cuz i think it's a big part of the game.
For the rest, i don't care how other people play, if u want to mine all day, mine all day, if u want to mission all day, mission all day, if u want to pvp all day, pvp all day, if u want to camp a gate all day, go get a social life  just don't try to force ur playing style on me and were all happy and isn't that the purpose of the game? to make u feel better? atleast it is for me.
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Avaleric
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Posted - 2006.05.26 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Avaleric on 26/05/2006 12:02:10
I guess I'm a carebear, and since I generate say 10 times as much spacebucks each day as PvPers do, it's people like me that actually fund all the combat activity the corp is involved in...
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.05.26 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kilo Paskaa
Anyone who doesnt get his money from pvp.
Someone that see's it my way !
Have my babies 
Alliaanna
Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-=
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Jacob Holland
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Posted - 2006.05.26 12:11:00 -
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I do not consider myself a carebear.
I spend a good proportion of my time mining, running courier missions and in Empire space. I own a reasonable number of BPOs for the components, ships and ammunitions I use most frequently. I love flying round and making deals - I even make the occasional mutually beneficial one
When I'm not in Empire I'm in a jump clone without Implants and I'll mine and NPC as much as I can.
When I'm needed however (and assuming I'm not stuck in SS) I'm in a combat ship - a tackler usually and doing my best to help in the defence of my "home" (even if that amounts to scramming the primary for five seconds before it's time to get my pod out ).
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Uggster
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Posted - 2006.05.26 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Uggster on 26/05/2006 12:37:43
Originally by: Captain Napalm
People that tell you, "I'll help defend after I loot this mission" and later on demand to know why no one came to their aid when they get ganked later on.
That's ****in' carebear.
GOD !!!!!!
That is the worst type of carebear.
They claim they are not cos they "would have helped but by the time I got there it was all over" or "would have helped but OMG I have to just dock for 5mins (2 hours) and I'll help then".
Or they strut about like a bantam***** in corp/alliance chat going on about thier uber Gist/Dread/Dark Blood/officer fitted "pwnmobile" and when a gang gets together to defend the space they get rich off the only thing they seem to have "fitted" is an incursus.
I reserve a deep and special hatred for these people.
If someone is a carebear (and they bloody know it at heart) then admit it and then people wont feel bad towards them.
Edit : Bantom male chicken 
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Elaron
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Posted - 2006.05.26 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
Anyone who relies on NPC content to fund their Eve career.
Don't agree. NPC content gives a lot of people something to do in between corp actions, and often gives something interesting to do other than watch a station spin around you when you can't commit to a five hour fleep op.
Originally by: Maximillian Pele
To me a carebear is someone who - when confronted by a challenge within the game - demands that the game and/or other players change to suit THEM!.
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A lot of players - including pirates and 0.0 space inhabitants - have alts in empire who take few risks - as well as their harder-cored characters. So to me that invalidates the "stays always in empire" definition of a carebear.
Quoted For Truth. Being a "carebear" is an attitude, that says "You must play the way I want to play!" and whines loudly and continuously, often on the boards, when people don't.
Elaron
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Galk
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Posted - 2006.05.26 12:54:00 -
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Aslong as it isn't on the subject of scumbag greifers, or people that get their rocks off on ruining the game in some manner to suit their selfish selfs.. employing win at all cost crap tactics, frankly i couldn't care less what others do...
Many around here though care about what others do sooooo much, that they give them silly childish names
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We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2006.05.26 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: var'ulfur
its funnie you have your way of thinking but if the so called care bears stoped making ships, mods, weapons, ammo, you so called non care bears would be fubar.
eve is a game for all stop being so full of yourselfs to think any one type of player is what eve is
Uh, I make ships and I'm not a carebear. 
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Nev Clavain
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Posted - 2006.05.26 13:09:00 -
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Hey, if you don't like whatever your personal definition of carebear happens to be, I suggest you all go and play Tetris you whining babies.
Get over it, its an MMO, and there will be people who play in a way which you perceive to be pointless - which is their right because they pay for their account not you. If you then have to label those people with a semi-derogatory name, and point fingers at them you are many times over more pathetic than they could ever be - however they choose to play this game.
pointless pointless pointless. And for those of you who have come on here and defined carebears as 'whiners' - explain to me exactly what you were doing, just after you've looked up hypocrisy in the dictionary.
adios.
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Voculus
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Posted - 2006.05.26 13:19:00 -
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Pirates think carebears are anyone who won't make themselves an easy target.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.05.26 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Voculus
Pirates think carebears are anyone who won't make themselves an easy target.
... and anyone who _will_ make themselves an easy target too :)
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Faeden Pain
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Posted - 2006.05.26 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
My definition of a carebear
Anyone who relies on NPC content to fund their Eve career.
I disagree...a "Care Bear" IMHO, and in all the games I have played previously is someone who is vehemently opposed to any sort of non-consentual PvP. e.g. the reason UO was broken in two.
Faeden Pain
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2006.05.26 14:39:00 -
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Coming into EVE my original definition would have been :
The (greater) Carebear : Someone who would like nothing more than for all PvP to be removed from a game.
At an similar but oposite end I would have had :
The Murderer (Or PK) : someone who wants easy targets to wander back and forth in front of him, to be killed without risk.
The PvP'er : someone who wants to fight other players, rather than NPC's, win or lose.
Now I'd add :
The (Lesser) carebear : someone who will not engage in PvP at all, unless it is very heavily stacked in his favour (and often not even then)
Funnily enough this last one has absorbed the murderers in a lot of cases, if they were ever really seperate ..
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qyros
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Posted - 2006.05.26 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: qyros on 26/05/2006 16:52:16
Carebears live in Care-A-Lot and they do what their bright and friendly nature creates, they care a lot.
They fight the bad and the evil with the power of love to bring peace and harmony to "the land without feelings".
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Gustavef
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Posted - 2006.05.26 17:09:00 -
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Personally, I put the line at anyone who wants the rules of the game changed so they are completely unhindered by other players.
I enjoy PvP, though I rarely go into combat. My PvP is marketeering and manufacturing. I know that I am competing against other players.
I think EVE has one of the best PvP systems over all. You are given a rating of possilbe risk in any area (ie its security satus) and you are given tools to hedge and limit that risk. It just takes planing and some strategy.
-gustavef
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.05.26 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kilo Paskaa
Anyone who doesnt get his money from pvp.
IMO running around in 0.0 in an indy takes more balls than doing it in a BS or HAC.
but hey, I make my ISK through selling goods, and not actual fighting.
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Severall
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Posted - 2006.05.26 17:44:00 -
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A tired cliche, used by the less-than-clever to try to insult or goad others.
And no that's not 'smack', or because I take offense to the term. I just think it's used too often & in too many different contexts, so it's pretty much meaningless.
Take a different game, where you could click something and 'disable' PvP. In that game it would mean something. In Eve it's just used to claim some sort of ideological superiority, which makes the user seem pathetic usually.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.05.26 18:03:00 -
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I'd agree with you there Severall.
Just because someone realises they'd get pwnd in PVP due to lack of skills/experience means they are wise. Calling them carebears is just a name that the more experienced and skilled (and suicidal) players use to refer to someone with more intelligence. What's wrong with making sure you have enough skills to hold your own in PVP rather than lose millions of isk proving to everyone that you can't?
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2006.05.26 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 26/05/2006 07:38:10
for me carebears are ..
.. those who prefer to whine than to adapt
.. those who think PvP is griefing
.. those who think market is not PvP
.. those who play the game like it's a singleplayer game
.. those who think everything in EvE should be consensual and safe
imho carebears are NOT ..
.. industrialist which understand the essence of the game
.. miners/npcers who know the risks and adapt to them
Pretty much sums it up. Good points.
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