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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.05.26 07:31:00 -
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Now please keep this thread smack free, Everyone is entitled to an opinion. If you dont like someone elses opinion dont get mad, theyre just another guy like you sat possibly thousands of miles away that you will never meet  So anyway....
My definition of a carebear
Anyone who relies on NPC content to fund their Eve career.
Including...
Mission Running
Mining (I suppose you could say this ISNT NPC content.. but  )
NPC'ing
So in my opinion the only ppl that aren't carebears are... some pirates/outlaws (Burn eden spring to mind), Merc corps, and I suppose theres some alliance PvP'ers that dont carebear ??
But whats everyone elses views.
And yes im about to start relying on NPC'ing to pay for GTC cards... So Roarrrr (cries)
Alliaanna
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.26 07:34:00 -
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A carebear for me is a pilot who doesn't want to get into the pvp combat aspect of the game any further than absolutely nessessary.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.05.26 07:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Tachy
A carebear for me is a pilot who doesn't want to get into the pvp combat aspect of the game any further than absolutely nessessary.
I disagree with that tbh, Carebear alliances... theres loads of them. They mine & NPC all day in highsec, a lot dont even want to consider PvP'ing...
But some of them have balls ! Respect for that... doesn't mean theyre not carebears though 
Alliaanna
But thats just my view lol
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
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Posted - 2006.05.26 07:38:00 -
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Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 26/05/2006 07:38:10
for me carebears are ..
.. those who prefer to whine than to adapt
.. those who think PvP is griefing
.. those who think market is not PvP
.. those who play the game like it's a singleplayer game
.. those who think everything in EvE should be consensual and safe
imho carebears are NOT ..
.. industrialist which understand the essence of the game
.. miners/npcers who know the risks and adapt to them
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.26 07:44:00 -
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"In the MMORPG Eve-Online (www.eve-online.com) a Carebear is a character who stays in Concord (police) controlled space and never ventures into unsecured "0.0" space."
From Urban Dictionary: carebear
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Teles666
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Posted - 2006.05.26 07:47:00 -
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A carebear stays in high sec and won't accept the risk that comes with reward in the game world.
A carebear can perform valuable functions for a corp - high sec mining, production, trade - docks when a war dec comes his way though.
I don't agree that somebody living in 0.0 or low sec, mining high ends or building capital ships / running goods is a carebear - they are putting themselves in danger to get ahead - risk vs reward.
Most people living in 0.0 will kill npcs, it's a resource as valuable as asteroids and can provide valuable mods for the corp / yourself as well as funding replacement bs's.
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2006.05.26 07:49:00 -
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A colourful fluffy bear, from my early childhood, think my sister had a knockoff of one. They had hearts on their chests, and with one exception spent all their time being happy.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.05.26 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Rick Dentill
A colourful fluffy bear, from my early childhood, think my sister had a knockoff of one. They had hearts on their chests, and with one exception spent all their time being happy.
Admit it.... you murdered your sisters bear didn't you ?
Alliaanna
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.05.26 07:54:00 -
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For me a Carebear is a player that tries to avoid losses at all costs. You can PvP and be a carebear at the same time.
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Maximillian Pele
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Posted - 2006.05.26 08:02:00 -
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Edited by: Maximillian Pele on 26/05/2006 08:03:25
Edited by: Maximillian Pele on 26/05/2006 08:02:36
To me a carebear is someone who - when confronted by a challenge within the game - demands that the game and/or other players change to suit THEM!.
Hence the person who demands to jetcan mine without risk in highsec and the "I can't catch anyone - nerf WCS" PvPers are both carebears to me.
A lot of players - including pirates and 0.0 space inhabitants - have alts in empire who take few risks - as well as their harder-cored characters. So to me that invalidates the "stays always in empire" definition of a carebear.
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Kingdoc
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Posted - 2006.05.26 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: Kingdoc on 26/05/2006 08:09:06
Originally by: Maximillian Pele
the "I can't catch anyone - nerf WCS" PvPers are carebears to me.
A-freaking-men brother!
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.05.26 08:12:00 -
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What Maximillian said should be stickied :P
To me a carebear is someone who doesn't want to PvP at all. However, it's meant to be a derogatory term. I personally don't use it like that, I just use it as an easy word to describe some people's chosen career path.
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Captain Napalm
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Posted - 2006.05.26 08:34:00 -
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People that tell you, "I'll help defend after I loot this mission" and later on demand to know why no one came to their aid when they get ganked later on.
That's ****in' carebear.
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Andrue
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Posted - 2006.05.26 08:35:00 -
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A carebear is someone that wants the game changed to minimise risks rather than using game mechanics to mitigate the risks.
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KingAc
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Posted - 2006.05.26 08:39:00 -
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I never pvp and only mine veld in Jita. I think to be a miner in MC is kind of bad :/
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Mangold
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Posted - 2006.05.26 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 26/05/2006 07:38:10
for me carebears are ..
.. those who prefer to whine than to adapt
.. those who think PvP is griefing
.. those who think market is not PvP
.. those who play the game like it's a singleplayer game
.. those who think everything in EvE should be consensual and safe
imho carebears are NOT ..
.. industrialist which understand the essence of the game
.. miners/npcers who know the risks and adapt to them
That's it.
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OldPueblo
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:02:00 -
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I would guess the term stemmed from those that went around trying to "care" for everybody in MMORPG's. You know, they'd never want to PVP because thats just "mean." They always want to help somebody, make sure everyone is having a good time, don't want to step on anyone's toes so that everybody has lots of money and nice ships and EVE is transformed into an amazing utopia of love and tenderness. As demonstrated by actual "Carebears" in the real world. THAT to me is a carebear. If you like to mine a lot, guess what you're a miner. If you like to NPC, then you are the rat master. If you happen to spend all your time in empire, then you should make sure to wear a storm trooper outfit. But a true carebear is all about the mushy personality in my book.
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John Phalanx
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:05:00 -
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I Am A Carebear
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Niccolado Starwalker
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:10:00 -
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I can be considered Carebear in EVE, but I demand to be believed when I say that never once have I whined or asked for changes to the game we love!!
You see, it is possible to be a carebear and to love EVE! After all, this game is so huge that it can fit all kinds of players! Even me, who at this time, prefer to run agent missions, while learning the game, and getting my skills up! I have only got 8 mill SP, so I can be considered pretty new to EVE. But when im ready, ill do PvP and visit Deep Space. For now however, I wont, and stay out of harms way.
Imho theres 3 kinds of players.
1. PvP players
2. PvE players
3. Whiners
Imo point 3 mix well with both point 1 and 2. Trust me, I might be young in terms of playtime on EVE, but so far I have seen NO difference whatsoever when it comes to whining. Both from people who are considered PvPers and PvEer.
This game can easily cater for all kinds of players: PvE as PvP. So why dont let it be with that???
Also, I have seen many people considered PvPers wants CCP to "force" PvEers into Low Sec/deep space, while at the same time telling people off for going there when they get PWNed.
Conclusion: You find whining everywhere, and label a carebear as a whiner, is absolutely wrong. Specially when I see just as much whining from those who consider themselves PvP hardcore players.
As I said in the beginning. I consider myself a Carebear, because I love doing agents. Mining, and generally staying out of harms way. At least untill I feel im able to defend myself! Is that really wrong??
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:10:00 -
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target practice
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:13:00 -
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A carebear is a person who thinks that they have a right to 'experience content' without competition or interruption.
It's not about 0.0. It's not about PvP. It's not about industry or mining. It's about whether you're prepared to make an effort for things you want, rather than whinging about how it's unfair.
I see 0.0 carebears, who think they have a right to hoover up arkonor uninterrupted. I see PvP carebears who whinge that their 'targets' don't sit still to be ganked. I see complex carebears who log off in the complex, and whine if someone beats them to it that downtime. I see ratting carebears who go hunting for faction loot in 0.0 but if their alliance calls upon them, are 'unavailable'.
I also see miners who jump into combat ships when their 'home' is attacked. I see see industrialists who work hard to keep their collegues provided with ships, ammo and modules. I see PvPers providing cover for operations, knowing that both parties get a 'return'.
A carebear isn't a miner, industrialist, NPCer or whatever. A carebear is someone who won't help when their friends and allies need it.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:15:00 -
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when you look up carebear in the dictionary, you should just see a picture of WhiteDwarf
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Jowen Datloran
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 26/05/2006 09:20:42
Originally by: Maximillian Pele
To me a carebear is someone who - when confronted by a challenge within the game - demands that the game and/or other players change to suit THEM!.
Yup, that is the carebear. A person who instead of adapting whines about how the game should be changed according to their needs.
True in all aspects of the game.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 26/05/2006 09:20:42
Originally by: Maximillian Pele
To me a carebear is someone who - when confronted by a challenge within the game - demands that the game and/or other players change to suit THEM!.
Yup, that is the carebear. A person who instead of adapting whines about how the game should be changed according to their needs.
True in all aspects of the game.
I agree 100% with the quoted bit.
I'd add
"They also do not believe others should be able to influence their gameplay without consent"
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Wotar
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:31:00 -
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There's some horse-**** in this thread but its good to see that some folks get it. If you think that any of the following things exclude you from being a carebear, you're deluded:
Being a pirate.
Being in 0.0.
PVPing.
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cpskatan
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:34:00 -
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A carebear is the one making corp wallet blink when others are on ops
A carebear is the one trying to avoid losses at any (even corps lost) cost
A carebear is the one whining when he gets ganked npc'n
A carebear only do things to profit themselfs
Beeing a carebear has nothing to do with you living in empire
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:59:00 -
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Carebears are people who don't take any risks at all and feel that the risk part of the game should be removed.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:02:00 -
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Target Practice 
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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:21:00 -
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its funnie you have your way of thinking but if the so called care bears stoped making ships, mods, weapons, ammo, you so called non care bears would be fubar.
eve is a game for all stop being so full of yourselfs to think any one type of player is what eve is
talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
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Selfrightous Fury
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Maximillian Pele
To me a carebear is someone who - when confronted by a challenge within the game - demands that the game and/or other players change to suit THEM!.
Hence the person who demands to jetcan mine without risk in highsec and the "I can't catch anyone - nerf WCS" PvPers are both carebears to me.
A lot of players - including pirates and 0.0 space inhabitants - have alts in empire who take few risks - as well as their harder-cored characters. So to me that invalidates the "stays always in empire" definition of a carebear.
Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 26/05/2006 07:38:10
for me carebears are ..
.. those who prefer to whine than to adapt
.. those who think PvP is griefing
.. those who think market is not PvP
.. those who play the game like it's a singleplayer game
.. those who think everything in EvE should be consensual and safe
imho carebears are NOT ..
.. industrialist which understand the essence of the game
.. miners/npcers who know the risks and adapt to them
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