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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
198
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Posted - 2014.05.10 22:33:00 -
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Looks like all targets will be reached to me.
Miners should probably move over to ratting and mission running once they reach their goals though. |

Lord Doomberries
Savoy Technologies
0
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Posted - 2014.05.10 22:38:00 -
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Tomorrow I will be wandering low security systems with my week long built fleet of tech I frigates and cruisers to do my part. Geckos HOOOOOOO! |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9694
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Posted - 2014.05.10 22:43:00 -
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Erufen Rito wrote:We tried tonight, it was fun. Ty Goons for being good hosts and escorting us out of VFK. Indeed, good fun. Thanks for giving my boot something to step on. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6403
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Posted - 2014.05.10 22:50:00 -
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Are the people not participating getting the same bonus stuff as the people actively playing? If so I don't see why anyone would bother changing their normal routine for this "event". |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9694
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Posted - 2014.05.10 23:38:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Are the people not participating getting the same bonus stuff as the people actively playing? If so I don't see why anyone would bother changing their normal routine for this "event". I'm not. I don't care about the drones. Already have more than I'll probably ever use. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Michael Ruckert
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
139
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Posted - 2014.05.11 01:33:00 -
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It appears the CODE faithful are slacking. "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier |

Michael Ruckert
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
139
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Posted - 2014.05.11 01:38:00 -
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Miners running the table. "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1485
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Posted - 2014.05.11 01:55:00 -
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Michael Ruckert wrote:Miners running the table. Nah, it just seems evident that CCP set easier targets for miners knowing how lazy they generally are as a group.
Surely that's right.
PS. Just joking really, but the epeening is really quite boring. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |

Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
463
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Posted - 2014.05.11 02:16:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: Indeed, good fun. Thanks for giving my boot something to step on.
Internet tough guy....gotta love em. 
Nerf Goons
Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9696
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Posted - 2014.05.11 03:18:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Indeed, good fun. Thanks for giving my boot something to step on.
Internet tough guy....gotta love em.  It was a play on words. We dropped boot (as in "Das Boot") carriers on them. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Beofryn Sedorak
54
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Posted - 2014.05.11 05:16:00 -
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Updated the Opening Post.:
The event is 7 days long. As of the upcoming downtime, 5 of those days will have passed.
The Math: 100 (Percent) / 7 (days) = 14.29 (percent per day) 14.29 * 5 = 71.45% is needed after 5 days to be "on track" (Not taking increased weekend activity into account)
According to the event page:
- Ore: shouldn't have any problem of reaching the second goal.
- Science and Industry: Should make it, they're about square on target.
- NPC Bounties: Both Bounties and ISK Destoryed need some serious help :(
- ISK Destroyed: Both Bounties and ISK Destoryed need some serious help :(
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Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3519
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Posted - 2014.05.11 06:36:00 -
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All your Geckos are belong to us... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC. Illusion of Solitude
761
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Posted - 2014.05.11 09:15:00 -
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Beofryn Sedorak wrote:Updated the Opening Post.: The event is 7 days long. As of the upcoming downtime, 5 of those days will have passed.The Math: 100 (Percent) / 7 (days) = 14.29 (percent per day) 14.29 * 5 = 71.45% is needed after 5 days to be "on track" (Not taking increased weekend activity into account) According to the event page:
- Ore: shouldn't have any problem of reaching the second goal.
- Science and Industry: Should make it, they're about square on target.
- NPC Bounties: Both Bounties and ISK Destoryed need some serious help :(
- ISK Destroyed: Both Bounties and ISK Destoryed need some serious help :(
Mining, lots of miners mining.
Science and industry is understandable, most tasks are planned well in advance, and not likely to change unless at the most insignificant level.
Npc bounties? Lots of wardecs this week. Besides, High sec bounties are trivial compared to Null.
Isk destroyed? Could it possibly be that PvP is Not The primary activity in the game? Who would have thunk it!
Looks like nullsec will need to get working, biggest destruction possibilities, and best bounty rats. If they do not, then after the new player presentation where they stated that they are only a percentage of less than 10% of players, then the propaganda that they are "real EvE and the most important group in effect as well as quantity" , will be somewhat difficult to sustain.
You do realise this is a test don't you? This may well define your future! The free geckos are merely bait. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9707
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Posted - 2014.05.11 09:39:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Isk destroyed? Could it possibly be that PvP is Not The primary activity in the game? Who would have thunk it! Could it possibly be that the goals aren't all intended to be equally easy to reach? "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Dave Stark
5506
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Posted - 2014.05.11 09:51:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Isk destroyed? Could it possibly be that PvP is Not The primary activity in the game? Who would have thunk it! Could it possibly be that the goals aren't all intended to be equally easy to reach? no, everything must be equal and it's clear that the pvpers are letting the side down. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1485
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:03:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Isk destroyed? Could it possibly be that PvP is Not The primary activity in the game? Who would have thunk it! James already beat me to making a point above that is relevant.
Could it also be that pvper's aren't really all that interested in obtaining a drone they'll never use, so aren't changing their normal play habits because of this challenge; while miners are interested in unlocking the goals because, while they'll also never use them, they are worth ISK and can be sold?
Like my last point, I don't really believe that, it's just another example of the stupidity of dropping your epeen out to focus on an "us and them", when if as the suggestions have been, everyone should be working towards the goal, there is nothing stopping anyone from assisting with any and all of the goals.
Miners for example, seeing that the mining goal will be reached, could easily stop shooting at things that can't shoot back and go shoot stuff that can shoot back. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2364
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:15:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:What happened?
I had a life yesterday and even talked to a female.
Wooo me! Now what did I miss?
Asking your mom to do your washing does not count  This is not a signature. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5968
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:19:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Isk destroyed? Could it possibly be that PvP is Not The primary activity in the game? Who would have thunk it! Could it possibly be that the goals aren't all intended to be equally easy to reach?
That, and you can't bot PvP 23/7. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2364
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:22:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Isk destroyed? Could it possibly be that PvP is Not The primary activity in the game? Who would have thunk it! Could it possibly be that the goals aren't all intended to be equally easy to reach? That, and you can't bot PvP 23/7.
Dear Kaarous if you suspect folk are botting, CCP will be glad to hear the details.
But of course, you know and I know that your post is just your usual substandard trolling. This is not a signature. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5968
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:25:00 -
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I don't "suspect" anything, anklebiter.
CCP themselves has told us that the vast majority of bots banned are found in highsec, and they are miners. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2364
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:30:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I don't "suspect" anything, anklebiter.
CCP themselves has told us that the vast majority of bots banned are found in highsec, and they are miners.
Well, as the majority of players are in h-sec, it is not surprising that the majority of botters may also be there.
You will never be as witty or a good a troll as Ladie Harlot, but at least you do try 
This is not a signature. |

Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
966
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:32:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Isk destroyed? Could it possibly be that PvP is Not The primary activity in the game? Who would have thunk it! Could it possibly be that the goals aren't all intended to be equally easy to reach? no, everything must be equal and it's clear that the pvpers are letting the side down.
For the weekend I have 1 kill for 70m, 300m bounties, and 900m in items. I spent far and away most of my time on the bounties, so its a pretty inefficient part of being a nullbear that CCP is asking us to do.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1470
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:45:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Isk destroyed? Could it possibly be that PvP is Not The primary activity in the game? Who would have thunk it! Could it possibly be that the goals aren't all intended to be equally easy to reach? would be interesting to hear some reasons for CCP to do it to their 'pure pvp-oriented' game
and nope, trolling of their players doesn't look very good in this case The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
152
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:46:00 -
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Nimrod vanHall wrote:...undock press self destruct and shoot them once with an alt before the ship blows up, so it counts as pvp. Are you saying that's NOT PVP? How rude...
I do this all the time.... |

Dave Stark
5508
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:51:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Isk destroyed? Could it possibly be that PvP is Not The primary activity in the game? Who would have thunk it! Could it possibly be that the goals aren't all intended to be equally easy to reach? would be interesting to hear some reasons for CCP to do it to their 'pure pvp-oriented' game and nope, trolling of their players doesn't look very good in this case
you say it like picking random numbers out of a hat isn't a valid way of selecting arbitrary targets. |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1470
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:56:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:March rabbit wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Isk destroyed? Could it possibly be that PvP is Not The primary activity in the game? Who would have thunk it! Could it possibly be that the goals aren't all intended to be equally easy to reach? would be interesting to hear some reasons for CCP to do it to their 'pure pvp-oriented' game and nope, trolling of their players doesn't look very good in this case you say it like picking random numbers out of a hat isn't a valid way of selecting arbitrary targets. i mean using weekly average for some period of time and adding like 10% on top of it would be the most reasonable way to make those numbers.
and if you really 'pick random numbers out of the hat' you can get into finishing all of your goals in the first day of such party. So you WILL NEED to use real statistical data anyway. And only 'randomness' here is what you add on top of it.
So i would ask again: where is reasons for CCP to make pvp goal harder than goal for miners or mission runners?
And using your logic one could say that CCP intentionally set goal for mission runners harder than goal for miners too? Any reasons for this? The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Dave Stark
5508
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Posted - 2014.05.11 11:00:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:reasons for this? to see all the tinfoil on the forums.
in a game built on conflict do you really think ccp aren't going to intentionally do something to make people have a hilarious and absurd discussion about it? |

Aiwha
Trans Secunda Nulli Secunda
741
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Posted - 2014.05.11 11:03:00 -
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I know how to fix this. N3/PL leadership, GSF, Avatars @ 75k off Old Man Star. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC. Illusion of Solitude
761
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Posted - 2014.05.11 11:07:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Dave Stark wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Isk destroyed? Could it possibly be that PvP is Not The primary activity in the game? Who would have thunk it! Could it possibly be that the goals aren't all intended to be equally easy to reach? no, everything must be equal and it's clear that the pvpers are letting the side down. For the weekend I have 1 kill for 70m, 300m bounties, and  900m in items. I spent far and away most of my time on the bounties, so its a pretty inefficient part of being a nullbear that CCP is asking us to do.
I agree, if my post sounded like a Null attack, that was not the intention, a little bit of humour sure., but not meant as a dig.
The point is this is a perfect measure of real activity, regarding alts on an account, only one can be on at a time, so the argument that all hiseccers are alts, cannot work while players are on in Null with the same account. More than one account they get paid one way or another so that is fine. The metrics provided by this "free" giveaway, are the pure, unvarnished, facts. Free of opinion and the metagame. Nulll , and it is null, as that is where the greatest destruction occurs or is believed to occur, and the best bounties, Will clearly show the real impact of Null on the in game Wider economy and clearly show here. i believe that CCP are looking Very Very closely at the results of this, and this will effect Nulls future forever.
Whether the targets are met or not, are fair or not, or one gets free drones or not has no relevance, only the raw data matters.
If the numbers are low then that will confirm the rising suspicion that it is Hisec that matters and gets the resources, as they are discovering that players who join because of the big fights, do not stay subscribers.
So to keep null alive and Vibrant, there are two days left. And the clock is ticking. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1471
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Posted - 2014.05.11 11:49:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:March rabbit wrote:reasons for this? to see all the tinfoil on the forums. in a game built on conflict do you really think ccp aren't going to intentionally do something to make people have a hilarious and absurd discussion about it? as if you need something to see 'all the tinfoil on the forums'? 
conspiracy theories.... The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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