PCU counts are definitely down on Tranquality (according to eve-offline), we've dipped to 2011 levels, I would expect that count to spike a bit around the next expansion as it usually does, it already appears to be trending back upwards. New eggs also seem to be back to trending upwards. Historically PCU is usually down for the few months leading up to an expansion. The Chinese server Serenity on the other hand has seen PCU counts trending steadily upwards since the beginning of the year, and their subs definitely count.

You could draw the conclusion the low PCU count on Tranq means overall subs have also been down, which could potentially affect voting turnout.

Not to mention Eve has a system that actually allows people to play to pay, which can negate the prioritizing income.

Coming to that, the steady rising of prices of plex might have an influence as well. If prices stay like they are now or even rise i am going to unsub one of my accounts next month. I am pretty sure a lot of people are doing that as well, leading to dwindling subscription numbers.

oooorrr you could conclude that Europe has experiencing awesome weather for this time of year and people are spending more time outside?

http://nerdsoliloquy.blogspot.co.nz/2014/05/eve-online-may-have-experienced-its.html

We would love to know the subscription number of EvE after the CSM9 election. I could see no reason for CCP to withhold this information from its players. I'm sure CCP just over looked this "minor" detail while compiling this year's election report.

So yeah...... CCP, if you could just go ahead and tell us the number..... That would be great.... Thanks.

Edit1: tl;dr: Until CSM8 CCP releases the percentage of player who participated in the election as well as the total number of subscription on TQ. This year, for the first time, CCP only released the participation percentage but not the total number of subscription.

Without having the actual sub numbers you can conclude just about anything up to and including aliens.

/or Obama

Without having the actual sub numbers you can conclude just about anything up to and including aliens.

/or Obama

In actuality it's probably down because of the economy. I'm not sure about the rest of the world but in the USA it's been on a downhill slide for the past few years.

The economy has been going up at a rather decent clip over the last 5 years, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

The Chinese server Serenity on the other hand has seen PCU counts trending steadily upwards since the beginning of the year, and their subs definitely count.

Actually, Doc, if you check CCPs financials, they don't. Remember that Serenity is operated by TianCity, not CCP. That's why it's tracked separately. CCP does get income from it, but it's basically a licensing fee.

Of course it has... Obama fixed everything

Obama doesnt have much to do with it, it's just numbers, and numbers dont lie. The economy has posted consistant growth (and significant growth at that) over the last 5 years. Unless you're suggesting that Obama secretly controls the stock market, then you really cant argue with facts.

Obama doesnt have much to do with it, it's just numbers, and numbers dont lie. The economy has posted consistant growth (and significant growth at that) over the last 5 years. Unless you're suggesting that Obama secretly controls the stock market, then you really cant argue with facts.

Actually, Doc, if you check CCPs financials, they don't. Remember that Serenity is operated by TianCity, not CCP. That's why it's tracked separately. CCP does get income from it, but it's basically a licensing fee.

Obama doesnt have much to do with it, it's just numbers, and numbers dont lie. The economy has posted consistant growth (and significant growth at that) over the last 5 years, unemployment is down, the dollar is up, by all traditional meterics the economy is far healthier than it was five years ago. Unless you're suggesting that Obama secretly controls the stock market and is a lizard-man from mars, then you really cant argue with facts (which is what you're trying to do btw).

If you want to argue with facts, I just noticed something interesting reading through CCPs 12 month from last December. You know they only made 4m in profit for the year, but liquidated 24m in assets? (I had other things on my mind in December of last year, so this is news to me)

Did I say anything about lizzard men or Obama controlling the stock market? Just a bit defensive are we? I wonder who you voted for.

The economy is getting better but only because it's recovering from a really bad state. If someone knocked all your teeth out then you were fitted with dentures you can't argue the fact that your dental health improved

Friday, we were made aware of something that is being considered for Kronos. This was the cause for some genuine debate and discourse for the first time in our tenure, both with CCP and in-between ourselves. IGÇÖm very interested to seeing the player base response to this given that a) I personally consider it a very wise decision and b) itGÇÖs something CCP may need to do again in the coming year. IGÇÖm pleased CCP are looking at this path via consultation with ourselves. I hope the player base understands and agreesGǪ I have faith in you guys!

this doesn't bode well...

I skimmed their 2012 financials and didn't see a 24m liquidation. Any chance you can be more specific? (A page number or section).

Look at the 2013 ones. http://www.ccpgames.com/media/47894/ccp_hf_financial_statements_december_31_2013.pdf?_ga=1.232594079.1230018860.1385400286

Page 6, check current total assets vs total assets in 2012. Went from 128m to 104m. Further along it estimates they took a $6k loss on asset disposal.

Oh yeah, sorry. I read last december as 2012, (like this december being 2013 december and last being 2012). Anyway, ignoring my stupidity, that was the writeoff of World of Darkness. They valued their current game assets and such as worth 24m and just scrapped it, resulting in the 24m loss.

Np, that doesn't make sense, as they didn't cancel WoD until April of this year so that would be on the 1st half of 2014 financials.

I can see how the tutorials and missions can frustrate newcomers. I think that having tutorial videos outside of EVE for complex, multidiscipline activities like PVP is great and very helpful. But when YouTube videos are the *only* source of information about what you do with all the building blocks of PI, or how to do explo correctly even for a starter mission I think there's something fundamental missing in "New Player Experience".

Still, the tutorials are MUCH better than they used to be... And I mean like, leaps and bounds better.

They did, financially. It was the write-off for 2013, not 2014.

just in case nobody has pointed it out.

starting your forum topic with a link to some one's blog who A) no longer plays eve, and B) RMT'd all their **** away before loudly announcing it to the world in a buttmad manner before trying to avoid the door hitting them on the way out.... that **** probably isn't the best way to start a topic.

Eve has many more players than any sub number would have you believe.