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Stank Bero
The Fated E.Y
0
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Posted - 2014.05.13 12:24:00 -
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This is in reference to the recent update on 5/13/14.
This update added hovering popup tooltips to everything. Everything.
I might be alone here but I know what the symbols on the overview represent. Anyone playing the game more than a month does. *Contains loot items* - Great, thanks..
Can this be disabled? I have looked for an option to do it however I can't seem to find it. I have quite possibly overlooked it.
If this can't be disabled, make it so it can please. |

Colman Dietmar
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.05.13 12:30:00 -
[2] - Quote
The new tooltips certainly need more work. The content, as mentioned, is rather useless at times, but what is even worse is the delay: now I can't hover my mouse over brackets to get instant info on what exactly the object is.
Perhaps roll back to the old ones untill the new ones are properly polished? |

Longdrinks
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
35
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Posted - 2014.05.13 12:33:00 -
[3] - Quote
new shinys for new players is good, but when the majority of players are old hands please give us a way to disable things we dont need(everything but module tooltips for me) |

Stank Bero
The Fated E.Y
1
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Posted - 2014.05.13 12:40:00 -
[4] - Quote
I can't even click to target ships on the screen that are close together..
Want to know why?
Because some giant hovering popup blocks anything within a 2x0.5 inch radius around it.
Targeting is broken, everything has a delay because of the animation. This is bad. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6030
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Posted - 2014.05.13 12:41:00 -
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Yes, please, it's hideous and game breaking. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1038
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Posted - 2014.05.13 12:43:00 -
[6] - Quote
I noticed this in space!
That's .. ridiculous! I haven't seen every case yet, but why does it try to add information when this information is already presented?
Why the redundancy? Why are people being treated as if they were idiots?
Wtf is this crap ??
I'm not happy. :( I feel insulted. ): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
Red blood, boiling hot! |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1038
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Posted - 2014.05.13 12:45:00 -
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Longdrinks wrote:new shinys for new players is good, but when the majority of players are old hands please give us a way to disable things we dont need(everything but module tooltips for me) But this is the wrong approach!
Tooltips that give redundant information are pointless.
Yes, maybe a new player does not know the first time that a wreck with a filled triangle contains loot ... but why does he need to be reminded *every single time* ?
It's pointless and removes any initiative to remember things.
This is bad change, CCP!
Wtf is wrong with the guy who did this? It's a brainless approach to things!
Undo it! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
Red blood, boiling hot! |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6034
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Posted - 2014.05.13 12:48:00 -
[8] - Quote
Oh, and since we're on the subject, give us an option to disable the thrice goddammed action wheel. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |

Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven
59
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Posted - 2014.05.13 12:53:00 -
[9] - Quote
Don't change anything on them, they work perfectly, just add the option to disable for other people who don't like. |

handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
248
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Posted - 2014.05.13 12:56:00 -
[10] - Quote
They're indeed annoying as heck, on the overview stuff has Icons to identify what it is.
I know the square is a Station, no reason to tell me twice. Baddest poster ever |

BNI Dojo
The Brave Dojo Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.05.13 12:57:00 -
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Dear God give us the option to turn this crap off, in BNI I am pretty sure 99% of everyone is not impressed.
I do not need a helpful tool tip telling me a "planet" is a "planet" in overview, redundancy rarely achieves much beyond royally pissing everyone off. |

Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:00:00 -
[12] - Quote
Another great step from ccp towards the evolution of eve.
Not.
If only CCP stopped touching their keyboards, and just stop screwing up our game. |

Audrey UntzUntz
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:01:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Yes, please, it's hideous and game breaking. No. Learn to adapt, learn to play, HTFU.
I actually do agree with you though. Just showing you what it's like when you make a perfectly reasonable post and someone replies with non-sense like that. Food for thought as you reply to other threads. |

Setanta Yeva
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:02:00 -
[14] - Quote
Try grabbing GÇ£scatter containersGÇ¥ in an exploration site, they are already bad enough with out this getting in your way, it is a real pain! I agree with the above, we need a disable option! |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6036
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:03:00 -
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Audrey UntzUntz wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Yes, please, it's hideous and game breaking. No. Learn to adapt, learn to play, HTFU. I actually do agree with you though. Just showing you what it's like when you make a perfectly reasonable post and someone replies with non-sense. Not at all saying that's what you do though, nope...
Please try to keep things within their specific thread, first of all.
Secondly discussing design philosophy is an entirely different boat from UI changes. Collating the two literally could not be more of a category error. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |

Luna McCoy
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:04:00 -
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There's an excellent system of brackets and colours that gives a wealth of information about various entities that might be encountered. There is thus no purpose in a massive box blocking my screen to tell me "This pilot is in your fleet" when I could see that without having to put my mouse anywhere near it.
If you need "Mail" to have an explanation that "This is to send and receive mail" you shouldn't be playing Eve.
Whilst I appreciate that someone put a lot of work into the UI, I feel that much of that effort has been wasted on giving us things which add little and in many cases detract from things that work well. |

Rumtin
Imperium Technologies
68
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:15:00 -
[17] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Oh, and since we're on the subject, give us an option to disable the thrice goddammed action wheel.
Yeah **** that action wheel, and **** tool tips
Seriously, these terribad ideas could only be the work of those infectious EA tards.please CCP, get rid of them! |

Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
271
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:26:00 -
[18] - Quote
If that is what every six weeks or thereabouts holds in store for us then I despair..
Please turn it off! |

Wendy Riker
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:34:00 -
[19] - Quote
The tooltips have also had the font size increased, which not only makes them take up too much space, but makes them more difficult to read, as the height of the letters is now too great in relation to the width. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6046
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:39:00 -
[20] - Quote
Because I am a fair man, I have been trying to give this a second chance, etc, etc, for the last two hours or so.
And now I will not be logging in until this "feature" is removed. Yes, it's really that bad.
While I recognize that someone somewhere probably worked hard on this, it is simply awful, and it needs to be disabled for the time being, ultimately made to be 100% optional. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |

Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
854
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:42:00 -
[21] - Quote
Now I feel bad suggesting tooltips for NPE. Yes it does seem a bit disruptive.. Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1050
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:43:00 -
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Setanta Yeva wrote:Try grabbing GÇ£scatter containersGÇ¥ in an exploration site, they are already bad enough with out this getting in your way, it is a real pain! I agree with the above, we need a disable option! No, this needs to go.
It removes incentive to remember things.
A disable option will still have it on by default for newbies.
I haven't checked through everything yet, can again in a few hours, but the outlook is horrible.
It makes people dumber! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
Red blood, boiling hot! |

TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
681
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:43:00 -
[23] - Quote
The tooltips are great additions that will help new players find their way better. But some of them are annoying once you see them for the tenth time. The tooltips on the overview and in space get especially annoying.
It would be nice if we get options to disable certain tooltips, like the ones mentioned above. If not that, at least have the tooltips update things like range in realtime. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1050
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:45:00 -
[24] - Quote
TigerXtrm wrote:The tooltips are great additions that will help new players find their way better. But some of them are annoying once you see them for the tenth time. The tooltips on the overview and in space get especially annoying.
It would be nice if we get options to disable certain tooltips, like the ones mentioned above. If not that, at least have the tooltips update things like range in realtime. No.
It makes people dumber by removing needs to use the brain.
They don't add anything relevant at all if they are constantly there. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
Red blood, boiling hot! |

Sarmatiko
1607
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:45:00 -
[25] - Quote
Setanta Yeva wrote:Try grabbing GÇ£scatter containersGÇ¥ in an exploration site, they are already bad enough with out this getting in your way, it is a real pain! You only need to suffer for two more weeks. After that - no more spew containers.
-¥ |

BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:47:00 -
[26] - Quote
This is new...so it must be good... |

TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
682
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:48:00 -
[27] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote: It makes people dumber by removing needs to use the brain.
Please get out  My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |

Lisa Gentilette
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:49:00 -
[28] - Quote
This is just annoying. Fine for new players but by now I know what a stargate is I do not need to be told that again, and again, and again!
It's also immersion breaking, I'm not flying in space I'm flying in the middle of a god forsaken sea of tooltips!
Please, please, please give us an off option.  |

Felicity Love
It Was the Year 3030
1801
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:50:00 -
[29] - Quote
Longdrinks wrote:new shinys for new players is good, but when the majority of players are old hands please give us a way to disable things we dont need(everything but module tooltips for me)
The "dumbing down" continues... time for the freshly minted CSM to make themselves useful, and get this stuff made optional.
"HTFU ! " -á--- -áKatee Sackhoff, aka "The F-Bomb Queen of EVE" ! !-á
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Plexing Laugh
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:51:00 -
[30] - Quote
BrundleMeth wrote:This is new...so it must be good...
Well, AIDS was new in the 80's.
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Ravennaa
Kazakh Ministry of Wealth Redistribution
0
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:51:00 -
[31] - Quote
On a positive note, this feature does add functionality where previously none had existed. Let me explain.
If you have moons brackets turned on, for example, sometimes there are so many moons that when you hover over it, previously the first 10 or 12 would be listed in a cascade taking up most of the display, and in no particular order. Now when you hover over brackets that have a lot of things "stacked" in one direction from your location in space, a nice, compact popup list now shows up. Not only are these brackets in some sort of sensible order now, but you can scroll through the lists. It makes it much, much easier to select objects by clicking on them in space when brackets are cluttered.
I haven't PvP'd since the new change, but from what I can see, I doubt this will have a negative influence. The new roll-over popups on the overview might be unnecessary for most people, but they also appear to be pretty unobtrusive, and should not affect one's ability to lock targets from the overview. Nor should it impact locking targets from the fleet broadcast window.
Seems like a good change, though I can understand why one might want to disable it.
Now if we could only restore the ability to disable WINDOW SNAP, that would be awesome. |

Scorsigaar
Quantum Reality R n D Spaceship Samurai
39
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:53:00 -
[32] - Quote
My eyes bleed with the new tooltips.
Disable pl0x |

Colman Dietmar
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:54:00 -
[33] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:which creates inefficient, spoonfed players!
Which are conviniently easy to kill and create many other kinds of profit. 
Keep up the good work, CCP! Just please make these new features optional, or better yet - customizable.
|

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
586
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Posted - 2014.05.13 13:59:00 -
[34] - Quote
+1, please for the love of all that is holy, please give us a way to disable the tooltips. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Colman Dietmar
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.05.13 14:03:00 -
[35] - Quote
Ravennaa wrote:The new roll-over popups on the overview might be unnecessary for most people, but they also appear to be pretty unobtrusive, and should not affect one's ability to lock targets from the overview. Nor should it impact locking targets from the fleet broadcast window.
Some people target using brackets, and the popup delay is messing with that horribly. Even more does it mess with one's ability to quickly get info by howering mouse over brackets.
The scrollable lists are nice, but pretty much everything else is bad: the font is too large, the info is redundant and useless, the fade effect - unnecessary, and all that is wrapped by a complete unability to customize any of it. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1053
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Posted - 2014.05.13 14:11:00 -
[36] - Quote
TigerXtrm wrote:Solecist Project wrote: It makes people dumber by removing needs to use the brain.
Please get out  Just because you have no idea what I am talking about, doesn't mean I have no idea what I am talking about.
This isn't just annoying or redundant.
Hey, what does this mean? Oh cool the tooltip tells me.
....
Damn I forgot again what it was, but the tooltip tells me anyway.
The fact that information is always provided teaches the mind that it's not necessary to remember it.
It *is* absolutely litterally making a person dumber.
Case in point: Phone numbers before mobile phones and now with mobile phones.
I'm passionate, yes. :p https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
Red blood, boiling hot! |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1053
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Posted - 2014.05.13 14:13:00 -
[37] - Quote
Colman Dietmar wrote:Solecist Project wrote:which creates inefficient, spoonfed players! Which are conviniently easy to kill and create many other kinds of profit.  Keep up the good work, CCP! Just please make these new features optional, or better yet - customizable. You don't get the point at all. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
Red blood, boiling hot! |

David Gradivus
Terra Incognita Black Core Alliance
6
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Posted - 2014.05.13 14:24:00 -
[38] - Quote
Option to turn off or removal of new tooltips
Also CCP need to get someone with a more critical eye to look at changes before they come through
This one is very bad would say |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1432
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Posted - 2014.05.13 14:29:00 -
[39] - Quote
Grr Tool Tips... |

Noriko Mai
1350
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Posted - 2014.05.13 14:36:00 -
[40] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Oh, and since we're on the subject, give us an option to disable the thrice goddammed action wheel. Set "Radial menu delay" to long |

Commandante Caldari
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
8
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Posted - 2014.05.13 14:36:00 -
[41] - Quote
Issues... issues... issues...  |

Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
106
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Posted - 2014.05.13 14:44:00 -
[42] - Quote
They made a mistake, the tooltips are too small. I can still see other things on my screen.
Seriously though... A way to turn them off would be nice. |

Commandante Caldari
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
8
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Posted - 2014.05.13 15:00:00 -
[43] - Quote
Thanks to all crybabies because I never had realized the changes. Must be my tunnel vision after 8 years of routine. Tissues? Anyone? No worries. CCP will hear you. That's a tradition. |

Phantra
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
89
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Posted - 2014.05.13 15:18:00 -
[44] - Quote
Ok,
This is way OTT as it stands, its obtrusive and quite frankly in some circumstances completely stifles the flow of gameplay. Clearly a lot of work has gone into the content writing for this, no doubt - and unlike most eve players I'm generally quite receptive to change... for new players I'm sure it's exactly what they need.. but we really do need the ability to turn this off, do you know how congested our screens are going to be if another B-R happens?
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Commandante Caldari
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
8
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Posted - 2014.05.13 15:25:00 -
[45] - Quote
Phantra wrote:Ok,
This is way OTT as it stands, its obtrusive and quite frankly in some circumstances completely stifles the flow of gameplay. Clearly a lot of work has gone into the content writing for this, no doubt - and unlike most eve players I'm generally quite receptive to change... for new players I'm sure it's exactly what they need.. but we really do need the ability to turn this off, do you know how congested our screens are going to be if another B-R happens?
Yes. Why not telling CCP in a nice way why those changes cause issues and ask them to turn this off soon. But all this crap of emorage is totally annoying... erm... amusing.
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1834
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Posted - 2014.05.13 15:32:00 -
[46] - Quote
I moved my mouse over your avatar and it said "obnoxious condescending a**hole" I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
168
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Posted - 2014.05.13 15:33:00 -
[47] - Quote
I somehow managed to completly disable my tooltips, either I found some hidden function or it bugged out.
Probably the latter. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4054
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Posted - 2014.05.13 15:34:00 -
[48] - Quote
Schmata Bastanold wrote:I moved my mouse over your avatar and it said "obnoxious condescending a**hole" Well I moved my cursor over your post and it said 'Damn straight!'. |

My Time
Bunyip Munitions Totally Wasted Alliance
6
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Posted - 2014.05.13 15:38:00 -
[49] - Quote
WTF is with the tool tips  |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1066
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Posted - 2014.05.13 15:40:00 -
[50] - Quote
My Time wrote:WTF is with the tool tips  Hover your name.
What does it say? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
Red blood, boiling hot! |

Ivan Taredi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.05.13 15:40:00 -
[51] - Quote
I wish we could turn them off. It is a pain to find out which station I want to warp to now that they all say station when moused over instead of giving me the station name. |

Higgs Foton
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
96
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Posted - 2014.05.13 15:42:00 -
[52] - Quote
I would like an option to remove the tooltips as well. Just when you rightclick the overview windows there should be an option "Disable tooltips".
Oh,
And i want it now.
Get to work CCP.
I understand it is handy for new players and retards, but i am neither of those. I actually have a vague grasp that if i see a square in space or on my overview, that it might just be a station. And if i hover my mouse of that square i want to see the particular name of that station and not that it is a station. I already know that. *Snip* Removed trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. |

Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
3858
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Posted - 2014.05.13 15:44:00 -
[53] - Quote
Higgs Foton wrote:I would like an option to remove the tooltips as well. Just when you rightclick the overview windows there should be an option "Disable tooltips".
Oh,
And i want it now.
Get to work CCP.
I understand it is handy for new players and retards, but i am neither of those. I actually have a vague grasp that if i see a square in space or on my overview, that it might just be a station. And if i hover my mouse of that square i want to see the particular name of that station and not that it is a station. I already know that.
Yeah that is frustrating.
I see battleship on the overview I use to quickly hover my mouse to check details. Now.... BATLLESHIP. Why thank I already knew that you twats. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |

Ivan Taredi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.05.13 16:00:00 -
[54] - Quote
Wow. The training timer neocom button no longer keeps real time data. There's some fail here |

Kaddan
Sub--Zero
3
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Posted - 2014.05.13 16:02:00 -
[55] - Quote
please give us a disable option for the toolbar popup . multiple targets are a nightmare to deal with when you have these stupid bars appearing and reducing the amount of screen and the damn delay is awful too. also.. stop adding stuff without first checking with us. your destroying our game with this kinda crap. |

per
Terpene Conglomerate
10
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Posted - 2014.05.13 16:02:00 -
[56] - Quote
at first when i noticed new tooltips i was like woah this is cool .... some belts / planets in clusters this is quite good thing but then i noticed there is tooltip for items in overview? oh really? stating the obvious there - really bad in pvp it has some cons and pros overall but i would turn it off myself some others might find it cool though then i did one relic site and this is really some kind of special hell, really no
i bet you still working on it, but please give us option to turn this thing off |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5672
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Posted - 2014.05.13 16:07:00 -
[57] - Quote
Felicity Love wrote:Longdrinks wrote:new shinys for new players is good, but when the majority of players are old hands please give us a way to disable things we dont need(everything but module tooltips for me) The "dumbing down" continues... time for the freshly minted CSM to make themselves useful, and get this stuff made optional.
b..b.but the last CSM was surely consulted about this.. Right?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Josie solo
Singular Motives
5
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Posted - 2014.05.13 16:14:00 -
[58] - Quote
It really does feel like i've just started EVE. This is great for when you first play but why isn't there an option to turn it off? 7 years in game, I know what a goddam planet icon looks like. Yet the worse thing is it actually messes with using the UI and items in space. How did this get through quality control? |

Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
3859
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Posted - 2014.05.13 16:17:00 -
[59] - Quote
Josie solo wrote:It really does feel like i've just started EVE. This is great for when you first play but why isn't there an option to turn it off? 7 years in game, I know what a goddam planet icon looks like. Yet the worse thing is it actually messes with using the UI and items in space. How did this get through quality control?
Aside from it being extremely in your face and distracting it actually now displays less info then it used to.
Somebody went tooltip NUTZ. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |

Mu Reznor
Starpaws Intergalactic Cat Herding Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.05.13 16:49:00 -
[60] - Quote
This completely breaks exploration sites, it slows down being able to collect scatter containers while dodging popups. It's unplayable.
Please rollback this patch asap. |

Mehra Oni
Krannon of Sherwood Carthage Empires
1
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Posted - 2014.05.13 16:55:00 -
[61] - Quote
Yesterday, the old sucky not good tooltiip when I hovered over a station in the overview said somethiing like "Emperor Family...".
(I am the most forgetful person ever.)
Today, the improved tooltip says "Station".
(Guess I'm not as forgetful as CCP thinks I am.)
This is an improvement??? |

Marcel Brinalle
Deadspace Coalition
0
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Posted - 2014.05.13 16:58:00 -
[62] - Quote
Mu Reznor wrote:This completely breaks exploration sites, it slows down being able to collect scatter containers while dodging popups. It's unplayable.
Please rollback this patch asap.
this. +1 |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13483
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Posted - 2014.05.13 17:01:00 -
[63] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Oh, and since we're on the subject, give us an option to disable the thrice goddammed action wheel.
This. For the love of all that is holy.. THIS. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Kay Charante
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.05.13 17:06:00 -
[64] - Quote
And today has been a good day till I come home log in to eve and see tool tips all over my screen.
can we please have a way of turning this off.
for the lack of better words this is ******** |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 17:18:00 -
[65] - Quote
Posting in stealth "Nerf 'Tards" thread. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

Angelica Everstar
Angel Enterprises
8
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 17:24:00 -
[66] - Quote
For the love of ANYTHING or/and EVERYTHING - Please add a option, to either disable the tool tips, or a slider for delaying the info shown !!!
This is driving me MAD - MAD I tell you !!!
or should I say - more MAD  |

Alternative Splicing
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
10
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 17:43:00 -
[67] - Quote
Yes. These are extremely annoying. Just like there is a 'disable' tutorials checkbox, there should be a 'remove' training wheels checkbox, or use classic interface popups. |

Kiandoshia
Tetragorn SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1735
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 18:10:00 -
[68] - Quote
Can we please get an option to turn the tooltips on things in space off?
It's great if you have 3 things to worry about, it becomes a giant hindrance when there are 200 things. |

Chirjo Durruti
The Scope Gallente Federation
30
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 18:18:00 -
[69] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Solecist Project wrote: It makes people dumber by removing needs to use the brain.
Please get out  Just because you have no idea what I am talking about, doesn't mean I have no idea what I am talking about. This isn't just annoying or redundant. Hey, what does this mean? Oh cool the tooltip tells me. .... Damn I forgot again what it was, but the tooltip tells me anyway. The fact that information is always provided teaches the mind that it's not necessary to remember it. It *is* absolutely litterally making a person dumber. Please don't confuse knowledge with intelligence. HOWTO: No More Tears (solo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdA4ciUrH-k
If you can get me a better crew than THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPrtQ9AdoM0
convo me. |

Coredun
Ubuntu Inc. The Fourth District
8
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 18:24:00 -
[70] - Quote
The HUGE black box that appears when trying to quickly mouse over spewed cans in relic sites is SLOW as hell to appear and disappear... thus blocking the other cans and making it very difficult to check which type cans are and cutting the number you are able to grab SIGNIFICANTLY.
The HUGE black box blots out the screen and prevents targetting, seeing others alignment and identifying specific things in space.
THIS IS BROKEN!!! REMOVE IT!!! |

Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
691
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 18:31:00 -
[71] - Quote
Please remove and/or add an option to disable the new UI. This is causing problems with trying to view ships on grid and results in fighting the UI. Most of the time I'm all for the HTFU, but not when an update results in fighting the UI to accomplish the same goals as before. Thank you for your efforts CCP, and I'm usually happy/excited with new changes, but not this one. For lack of a better word, this seems too "clunky", despite it being an update. Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~PsychoticMonkCSM9~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |

Sven Viko VIkolander
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
148
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 18:48:00 -
[72] - Quote
You know just yesterday I said to myself "the thing eve needs most is another giant menu in space"
and sure enough!
http://i.imgur.com/Whbh1qv.jpg
This is a good example of what my screen looks like with these changes.
These changes are pretty much game-breaking for me. |

Sandy Scott
Ave Tenebrae
1
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 18:52:00 -
[73] - Quote
Mehra Oni wrote:Yesterday, the old sucky not good tooltiip when I hovered over a station in the overview said somethiing like "Emperor Family...".
(I am the most forgetful person ever.)
Today, the improved tooltip says "Station".
(Guess I'm not as forgetful as CCP thinks I am.)
This is an improvement??? Definitely the old ones were better. Why should it tell me it's a Station when I can already see that? The same applies to ships: I can already see that it's targeting me, I want to know what it's called.
The previous tooltips took up a lot less space on the screen and were easier to read at a glance. The colours of the new ones as well as the skinny font add nothing to legibility. |

Tuesday Lobsang
POS Party Try Rerolling
17
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 19:08:00 -
[74] - Quote
David Gradivus wrote:Option to turn off or removal of new tooltips
Also CCP need to get someone with a more critical eye to look at changes before they come through
This one is very bad would say
If I could infinite like this I would |

Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1345
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 19:08:00 -
[75] - Quote
Subscribing to this thread as it's important to me *signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums* |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5673
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 19:11:00 -
[76] - Quote
C'mon guys, an option to turn this off would be a cop-out.
/runs
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Emiko P'eng
72
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 19:17:00 -
[77] - Quote
Very Nice.
Now where do I turn them OFF before they start to really irritate! |

Jumpshot244
Control-Space DARKNESS.
47
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 19:29:00 -
[78] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:C'mon guys, an option to turn this off would be a cop-out.
/runs
*jedi hand wave* There is no old system anymore. |

Mercedes Chance
GDC Enterprises
11
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 20:05:00 -
[79] - Quote
Okay. I am not a vet of the game, having only joined in January of 2013 so I don't have a lot of "back in the day" attachments that many of the longer-in-the-tooth players have . . . but these tooltips are a CF. The radial menu was already a PITA but this, wow. As many posters before me have already noted, the "usefulness"of the presented information is questionable at best and lacking for the most part. But I spend a lot of time exploring, and I am not going to belabor my issues with loot spew (in part because of you know . . . the summer), but the tooltips really botch this up.
I understand there is an effort to try and get new blood in the game, I am one of those cats. My step-son had been trying to get me into EVE for like 5 years and I just said no no. Then I picked up the game and yes, there is a learning curve, but that made it challenging. But lets say not every new player is willing to take the time and I don't know, use the effing tutorials that are in game and pretty much walk you through everything you know to play reasonably well from the jump, then yes the tooltip explosion may be good for them . . . until they leave a few weeks later.
But please, for the sake of people that actually like to figure things out, or think or simply see whats on their screen, give us the option to disable this UI or at least revert to the earlier version.
P.S. - Oh, and I hate the Scroll Wheel thingy too, disable switch for that too please.
P.P.S - Drab is . . . well you know. |

Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
468
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 20:18:00 -
[80] - Quote
I thought the idea of tooltips was to give more info than is readily apparent. The new system now simply repeats what we already know - and in the case of the Overview, actually tells us LESS than the old system did.
Plus the in-space boxes are massively intrusive and hide things we might want to keep in view - hindering game play and again effectively depriving us of info.
This is absolute lunacy, CCP. Please git rid of it in tomorrow's downtime. |

Cifelli
Neon Incorporated 404 Alliance Not Found
0
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 20:21:00 -
[81] - Quote
i respect that a lot of effort probably went into doing this change but give us the option to disable the tooltips for people that dont want them. They are annoying! |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5677
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 20:31:00 -
[82] - Quote
Cifelli wrote:i respect that a lot of effort probably went into doing this change but give us the option to disable the tooltips for people that dont want them. They are annoying!
Good luck with that https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=243438
The above thread is only up to 91 pages of players asking for an off switch for another bad decision that was not tested adequately. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Jayem See
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
2629
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 20:42:00 -
[83] - Quote
Might be worth voicing your concerns in the Dev-blog thread as well.
CCP Delegate Zero has made a post due to feedback here. Aaaaaaand relax. |

Cekle Skyscales
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
38
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 20:45:00 -
[84] - Quote
Maybe give it a day? Maybe a whole day before passing judgment. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6089
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 20:50:00 -
[85] - Quote
Cekle Skyscales wrote:Maybe give it a day? Maybe a whole day before passing judgment.
An assault on the senses does not get better with time. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |

VTyx Soul
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
16
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 20:53:00 -
[86] - Quote
I want to gauge my eyes out now after seeing this. |

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3603
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 20:55:00 -
[87] - Quote
Wrong place to post. Post in the comments thread if you actually want your comments to be read by the devs.
Some good ideas here that really would be a shame to be ignored. |

Darkward
DW Industries
3
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 21:06:00 -
[88] - Quote
The new tool-tip stuff might be fancy for new players, tho mostly the information is redundant, try running a data or relict site, it is wasting always time when hoovering over dropped items until tho information "what-it--is" is shown, thus reducing the time in going through all of them. Finally that means you can grab less of the stuff.
And again once you select one item the very same information is displayed. Kinda annoying IMHO.
Having an option to disable those tool-tip would come very handy.
- DW |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1443
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 21:24:00 -
[89] - Quote
Seriously lads, post about it here where the appropriate devs will see your feedback . https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=344245&find=unread |

Destiny Calling
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
30
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 21:53:00 -
[90] - Quote
We never get an "off" button for many of these "features". The scan overlay is another huge mess up that was never fixed.
no, sorry, you need to scan every system no matter what. Even if you don't want it to scan anything.
lul |

Ivan Taredi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
8
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 22:28:00 -
[91] - Quote
Left my thoughts on the other thread. I humbly suggest all others do the same. |

Neutrino Sunset
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
40
|
Posted - 2014.05.13 22:29:00 -
[92] - Quote
Why in God's name couldn't the poor sod who implemented this abhorrent tooltip in space nonsense have done something useful instead like:
Create an option to disable the bloody scanner overlay.
Fix the overview so that it remembers sort order for each tab.
Create a shortcut key for 'Orbit at current range'.
Create shortcut keys that open either the Star Map or System Map directly without having to go to the one you don't want to look at first.
Or any one of the 1000 other trivial improvements that the players have been asking for for years. |

Jered Hakaaros
GeoCorp. Curatores Veritatis Alliance
25
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 00:37:00 -
[93] - Quote
Fixing those little things actually requires an understanding of how much they hinder the gameplay, not in code but in practise, or else this very pretty list would have been hotfixed ages ago in a single day. Its really small stuff that makes a very big difference in gaming experience.
Well, I guess manually writing a tooltip describing the describtion of the info of every single thing there is in Eve is a good start getting to know your own game. It has been 11 years, after all :) |

WhoDoo Lee
Catalina Operations and Logistics Division Curatores Veritatis Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 00:49:00 -
[94] - Quote
I'd have to agree with the masses up there, this new feature has its annoyances. I can see how it can be an improvement for tight clusters of icons (such as a planet/moon/asteroid clump) in as it does not fall apart as quick as the old method, thus making it easier/quicker to select the proper warp. However, for individual, or small groups (< 5) it serves more as a hindrance than anything else. That and the delay is awfully slow...
Disabling would be nice. Just my $0.02 |

Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
274
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 01:21:00 -
[95] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:I noticed this in space!
That's .. ridiculous! I haven't seen every case yet, but why does it try to add information when this information is already presented?
Why the redundancy? Why are people being treated as if they were idiots?
Wtf is this crap ??
I'm not happy. :( I feel insulted. ):
Good. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6108
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 01:24:00 -
[96] - Quote
We need to ramp up on the official thread, they're ignoring feedback at this point, looks they're digging their heels in.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=344245 "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |

Drabbin Mishi
EVE University Ivy League
0
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 01:25:00 -
[97] - Quote
My problem is that the tooltips on the mini-containers from Data and Relic sites are *MUCH* slower than the old name popups - making it much much more difficult to find and click on the mini-containers that you need to retrieve. MUCH slower. |

Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 01:31:00 -
[98] - Quote
A option to turn off tool tips would be a good idea. Since they truly do clutter up the screen.
Kind regards Celise Katelo
[insert tool tip] [Error] = Cookies 
|

Ashlar Maidstone
ImaNicePirate.com Real Alliance Such Relevance
68
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 02:26:00 -
[99] - Quote
I am not at all impressed by these tool tips covering important information as others have stated, not only that but it broke the starmap on this account to which a bug report was sent. Why is it that even tho this would be nice for the new players we have to look at this everytime we need to click or mouse over??
I am in agreement that a way to disable these should had been built in.         |

General Nusense
Not Posting With My Main
175
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 03:32:00 -
[100] - Quote
Stank Bero wrote:This is in reference to the recent update on 5/13/14.
This update added hovering popup tooltips to everything. Everything.
I might be alone here but I know what the symbols on the overview represent. Anyone playing the game more than a month does. *Contains loot items* - Great, thanks..
Can this be disabled? I have looked for an option to do it however I can't seem to find it. I have quite possibly overlooked it.
If this can't be disabled, make it so it can please.
you are not alone.
VOTE OFF BUTTON IN 2014.
|

Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
46
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 03:53:00 -
[101] - Quote
Drabbin Mishi wrote:My problem is that the tooltips on the mini-containers from Data and Relic sites are *MUCH* slower than the old name popups - making it much much more difficult to find and click on the mini-containers that you need to retrieve. MUCH slower.
Yep, it is not good when the first scatter container you click / hover over opens a roadside billboard that blocks your view of all the other containers then takes 5 seconds to open when you finally see another container. CCP, you killed relic and data sites :(
Also, not getting an active range readout in real time for the scatter containers now makes it hard to judge what you need to snag first. Fail all around I'm afraid. |

Kevin Tsutola
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 07:32:00 -
[102] - Quote
off button please thank you. keep the off button standard with patches like this |

Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
40
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 07:48:00 -
[103] - Quote
Sarmatiko wrote:You only need to suffer for two more weeks. After that - no more spew containers.
I do not need to suffer. Quit game button still works as intended. Sandbox. Can you link info about this two more weeks? Kronos is moved to july and it supposed to be implemented with it.
Bacon tastes so much better when it's marinated in vegan tears.-á |

Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1345
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 10:41:00 -
[104] - Quote
Cons of this new pop up: - Fraction of a second delay on clicking something so you can read it in the overview. When you're "MOVING", this makes the task akin to dialing a phone with gloves on
Pos of the new pop up: + When "SITTING STILL" in space looking around at a cluster of planets, it's easier to select the moon you were after.
Please look into that micro-delay and perhaps allow us to have the window transparent?
*signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums* |

Kiandoshia
Tetragorn SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1740
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 10:56:00 -
[105] - Quote
Spurty wrote:Cons of this new pop up: - Fraction of a second delay on clicking something so you can read it in the overview. When you're "MOVING", this makes the task akin to dialing a phone with gloves on
Pos of the new pop up: + When "SITTING STILL" in space looking around at a cluster of planets, it's easier to select the moon you were after.
Please look into that micro-delay and perhaps allow us to have the window transparent?
I think they should just remove the popups in space and make it the way it was before. It was perfectly fine and this -looks- perfectly alright but I really really doubt anyone has bothered 'testing' this extensively because despite looking neat, it is an absolutely horrible thing for when you actually have to use it (because they got rid of the old thing) |

Colman Dietmar
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
36
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 11:21:00 -
[106] - Quote
Kiandoshia wrote:I think they should just remove the popups in space and make it the way it was before. It was perfectly fine and this -looks- perfectly alright but I really really doubt anyone has bothered 'testing' this extensively because despite looking neat, it is an absolutely horrible thing for when you actually have to use it (because they got rid of the old thing)
It was perfectly fine except for the times when you had a big number of brackets grouped up, which would cause a completely broken list that showed you a random part of the full list, glitchy as hell. The new scrollable list fixes that.
But it is indeed horrible to use due to many reasons already explained, and indeed it seems it wasn't tested very much. I don't think they should simply remove it though, just needs more work. Perhaps roll back to previous version untill the new one is actually ready. |

Eurynome Mangeiri
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
10
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 11:47:00 -
[107] - Quote
Colman Dietmar wrote:Kiandoshia wrote:I think they should just remove the popups in space and make it the way it was before. It was perfectly fine and this -looks- perfectly alright but I really really doubt anyone has bothered 'testing' this extensively because despite looking neat, it is an absolutely horrible thing for when you actually have to use it (because they got rid of the old thing) It was perfectly fine except for the times when you had a big number of brackets grouped up, which would cause a completely broken list that showed you a random part of the full list, glitchy as hell. The new scrollable list fixes that. But it is indeed horrible to use due to many reasons already explained, and indeed it seems it wasn't tested very much. I don't think they should simply remove it though, just needs more work. Perhaps roll back to previous version untill the new one is actually ready. not an option actually, no more FC undocking until fixed on our side. period.
the alliance chat is now FILLED with ppl asking "HOW DO I TURN THIS **** OFF?" |

Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
401
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 13:02:00 -
[108] - Quote
I like how when I click on a nearby ship, The transparent (for lack of words) version tells me what/who it is. THEN the tooltip blacks out everything and TELLS ME THE SAME EXACT THING.
Yeah sure, this isn't broken. CCP, you NEED to roll back this tool tip problem asap because it's not useful in any way. The old system, even with it's tiny shortfalls, was still 100x better than this current hot mess.
On a side note. I really hope this isn't the kind of thing you're going to release 10 TIMES A YEAR under the new 'patchspansion plan'.
 EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 500Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |

Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
137
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 13:07:00 -
[109] - Quote
ok, 24h after it's time to be serious : tooltips will stay like stargate animation, no need to write 200 pages about
DEAL WITH IT ?
WTS BPO : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=307169 |

SFM Hobb3s
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
76
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 13:40:00 -
[110] - Quote
Forget trying to target multiple targets that are close to eachother using your interface. You will be lucky to target just one before the tooltip cockblocks you.
Also, its so nice that when using multiple clients, the tooltips remain open blocking important stuff (like your local view) while you are using another client/screen. |

Icarius
The Wings of Maak Defiant Legacy
19
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 14:49:00 -
[111] - Quote
[2014.05.14 00:00:00 ] (ui) 10000 from Stupid tooltip - Hits : UI destroyed, eve client is out of control |

Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
437
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 16:04:00 -
[112] - Quote
Options are good. Options are really good.
An option to disable this would be appreciated.
Feel free to leave the option enabled for new people but give us old farts the ability to turn it off. As long as the option is there, all's good, even with a few mutters from some. |

Winchester Steele
1118
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 16:32:00 -
[113] - Quote
Stank Bero wrote:This is in reference to the recent update on 5/13/14.
This update added hovering popup tooltips to everything. Everything.
I might be alone here but I know what the symbols on the overview represent. Anyone playing the game more than a month does. *Contains loot items* - Great, thanks..
Can this be disabled? I have looked for an option to do it however I can't seem to find it. I have quite possibly overlooked it.
If this can't be disabled, make it so it can please.
+1. Signed for an off switch.
Oh really? That's a jump gate. All these years playing this game and I had no idea. Thanks Obama CCP.  ... |

Marcel Brinalle
Deadspace Coalition
3
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 17:00:00 -
[114] - Quote
Cekle Skyscales wrote:Maybe give it a day? Maybe a whole day before passing judgment.
why? it's gonna be different? better? today I hate it even more, so it was wise to voice my opinion immediately.
|

Marcel Brinalle
Deadspace Coalition
3
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 17:01:00 -
[115] - Quote
Almethea wrote:ok, 24h after it's time to be serious : tooltips will stay like stargate animation, no need to write 200 pages about
DEAL WITH IT ?
I pay, I demand. It's service provider who should deal with issues, not me
|

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1466
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 17:05:00 -
[116] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Seriously. |

Maruk Ihnati
V I R I I Ineluctable.
21
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 17:15:00 -
[117] - Quote
I demand tooltip in the character selection screen.
How am I supposed to know what I'm clicking on?
It needs to say "This is Character".
On a serious note, a tooltip with Alliance and Corp of a pilot in local would be awesome. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5740
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 17:21:00 -
[118] - Quote
Maruk Ihnati wrote:I demand tooltip in the character selection screen.
How am I supposed to know what I'm clicking on?
It needs to say "This is Character".
On a serious note, a tooltip with Alliance and Corp of a pilot in local would be awesome.
Obligatory:
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

SFM Hobb3s
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
76
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 17:28:00 -
[119] - Quote
Mouses over Gallente Tech 3 cruiser. Tooltip says, "This is Protus".
|

Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate Caldari State
352
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 18:28:00 -
[120] - Quote
EVE players wanting an option to turn off an annoying feature? Why does that sound familiar?
All I can say is get in line; we've been waiting nearly a year for our off switch.
Seriously though, I hope this gets addressed as the tooltips are bothersome, but CCP will probably tell you the same thing: an option to disable such a feature is a "cop out" (basically CCP code for "we won't admit we screwed up"). Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |

D20 Rollings
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 18:58:00 -
[121] - Quote
Ahh...So many of the HTFU regulars dripping tears. Why not HTFU and deal with it, I love the new tooltips. Great work CCP :) |

Ajit Kumar Bhattacharya
MUSE Rapid Action Team Metaphysical Utopian Society Enterprises
1670
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 19:28:00 -
[122] - Quote
Hate them. They are redundant and ridiculous. Lose them CCP. GÇ£How Earth-like? 'Temperate and able to sustain life' Earth-like or 'completely overrun with self-absorbed assholes' Earth-like?GÇ¥ |

Lolita Troublemaker
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
57
|
Posted - 2014.05.14 19:42:00 -
[123] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Oh, and since we're on the subject, give us an option to disable the thrice goddammed action wheel.
Both the action wheel and the stupid pop ups need to have a disable option. |

Vivec Septim
The Bene Gesserit Sanctuary Pact
3
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:00:00 -
[124] - Quote
My favorite tooltip is the one over our shield/armor/structure. EXACT numbers shown and not just approximations. Though... perhaps the tooltips for everything else could be less obvious -- i.e. more a flourish rather than stating the obvious. (?) Lets also make them optional. Ladies love options. |

Chiyo Kawamura
Dissonance Corp The Initiative.
4
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:18:00 -
[125] - Quote
Lost a couple of cans in explo, also they don;t give any NEW info Good for new players BAD for old players Please give option to disable
Thanks |

LJB
Dissonance Corp The Initiative.
7
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Posted - 2014.05.14 21:19:00 -
[126] - Quote
Welcome to WOW...dare i say more, do we realy need tool tips ?????....
Me thinks not.
LJB |

Alec Freeman
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
302
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Posted - 2014.05.14 22:00:00 -
[127] - Quote
+1
My 2nd monitor runs on lowish resolution (1024x760). The black bar taking up half my ******* screen everytime i accidently leave my mouse somewhere for to long is enfuriating. Please give an option to disable these things. Also +1 for disabling the radial menu but i doubt that would happen as the UI guys and gals seemed to have a large collective erection over radial menus and touch screen integration. *Facepalms*.
Alec |

Kenneth Endashi
Green Skull LLC
1
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Posted - 2014.05.14 23:45:00 -
[128] - Quote
CCP, thank you for all your hard work.
I would just like to say that the tool-tips seem to mean well, but have only made the game more difficult for me. They are another obstacle to exploration - rather than a tool - and I would like the ability to turn them off as soon as possible.
They are so bad, I was actually surprised there was no option to disable them in the ESC menu.
Please give us this option, because I am not exaggerating when I say they just about break the game.
Thanks again. |

Sven777b
Workaholic's
0
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Posted - 2014.05.15 08:42:00 -
[129] - Quote
As for me - the major problem are only the tooltips for objects in space - such as cans or enemies. Why not just use the old tooltips style for those objects - or make an option in overview-settings allowing us to switch back to the "simple" tooltips for objects in space. The other tooltips at the sidebar or hud are nice. |

Mag's
the united
17229
|
Posted - 2014.05.15 08:46:00 -
[130] - Quote
Tooltips, action wheel and the scan after every jump, all need an off option tbh.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

coik el tuerto
THE FINAL STAND The Final Stand.
0
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Posted - 2014.05.15 09:56:00 -
[131] - Quote
Stank Bero wrote:I can't even click to target ships on the screen that are close together..
Want to know why?
Because some giant hovering popup blocks anything within a 2x0.5 inch radius around it.
Targeting is broken, everything has a delay because of the animation. This is bad.
Have you tried to manually warp to a group of celestials ? MR giant hovering popup block will get your ship killed pretty quick |

John Lawyer
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:29:00 -
[132] - Quote
New tooltips? No. Just NO! They are bad, and you, CCP know it. |

afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
46
|
Posted - 2014.05.15 11:42:00 -
[133] - Quote
Stank Bero wrote:I can't even click to target ships on the screen that are close together..
Want to know why?
Because some giant hovering popup blocks anything within a 2x0.5 inch radius around it.
Targeting is broken, everything has a delay because of the animation. This is bad.
This. |

Jenna Jiggles
3
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Posted - 2014.05.15 11:48:00 -
[134] - Quote
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This is where you post to express
your disapproval with our new tooltips.
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Gemma Kirk
Ave Tenebrae
0
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Posted - 2014.05.15 12:58:00 -
[135] - Quote
Just having an option to turn them off wouldn't be enough, as that would leave us without tooltips at all; in other words, we'd be in a worse position that we were last week.
What we need is for the previous tooltips to be restored until such time as the new ones are fixed, with the previous font being used, with station owners being displayed (instead of just "Station"), the huge black boxes removed, and additional text only given space on the screen if it's useful, not to repeat what's already there, or to state the obvious. |

Alternative Splicing
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
32
|
Posted - 2014.05.15 18:26:00 -
[136] - Quote
coik el tuerto wrote:Stank Bero wrote:I can't even click to target ships on the screen that are close together..
Want to know why?
Because some giant hovering popup blocks anything within a 2x0.5 inch radius around it.
Targeting is broken, everything has a delay because of the animation. This is bad. Have you tried to manually warp to a group of celestials ? MR giant hovering popup block will get your ship killed pretty quick
This has to be one of the most irritating experiences in this game now. Seriously - I do not like fighting with the UI all the time. |

Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
8
|
Posted - 2014.05.15 18:48:00 -
[137] - Quote
I also think some kind of options to disable them is needed, but it is a good addition, and I hope that in the future CCP adds more than just duplicated information on them. For example, being able to choose some of the overview column content and set them to be visible or not in tooltips would be great. if all the content is unchecked, then the tool tip simply does not show up for overview's content. |

Autong Jalar
Exploration Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:48:00 -
[138] - Quote
As i haven't seen a fix or change related to the new tool tips in the last few days, I will add my thoughts to help further the fix.
As exploration is my primary isk generating activity, it is now also the most painful activity. I can no longer hover over a floating can with my mouse ready to click on it because a huge useless none floating with the can pop-up appears. This adds multiple steps to retrieving items from data and relic sites.
The current solution of move mouse, click in space, wait for pop-up to close, hover over next can, move mouse, click in space, wait for pop-up to close, hover over next can.... times the number of cans has pretty much removed the best EVE experience for me, exploration.
Other than that, i will probably get over the other issues i have with them, but, if you could add a delay to the pop-up, that would be great too, like maybe up to a one hour delay.
Thanks for taking the time regarding my concern. |

Lisa Gentilette
The Scope Gallente Federation
31
|
Posted - 2014.05.15 19:09:00 -
[139] - Quote
Autong Jalar wrote:As i haven't seen a fix or change related to the new tool tips in the last few days, I will add my thoughts to help further the fix.
As exploration is my primary isk generating activity, it is now also the most painful activity. I can no longer hover over a floating can with my mouse ready to click on it because a huge useless none floating with the can pop-up appears. This adds multiple steps to retrieving items from data and relic sites.
The current solution of move mouse, click in space, wait for pop-up to close, hover over next can, move mouse, click in space, wait for pop-up to close, hover over next can.... times the number of cans has pretty much removed the best EVE experience for me, exploration.
Other than that, i will probably get over the other issues i have with them, but, if you could add a delay to the pop-up, that would be great too, like maybe up to a one hour delay.
Thanks for taking the time regarding my concern.
The current tooltips are bad, no doubt about that. What you "explorers" all have been missing is that the scatter crap is going away in 2 weeks or so.
|

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6205
|
Posted - 2014.05.15 19:14:00 -
[140] - Quote
Lisa Gentilette wrote:Autong Jalar wrote:As i haven't seen a fix or change related to the new tool tips in the last few days, I will add my thoughts to help further the fix.
As exploration is my primary isk generating activity, it is now also the most painful activity. I can no longer hover over a floating can with my mouse ready to click on it because a huge useless none floating with the can pop-up appears. This adds multiple steps to retrieving items from data and relic sites.
The current solution of move mouse, click in space, wait for pop-up to close, hover over next can, move mouse, click in space, wait for pop-up to close, hover over next can.... times the number of cans has pretty much removed the best EVE experience for me, exploration.
Other than that, i will probably get over the other issues i have with them, but, if you could add a delay to the pop-up, that would be great too, like maybe up to a one hour delay.
Thanks for taking the time regarding my concern. The current tooltips are bad, no doubt about that. What you "explorers" all have been missing is that the scatter crap is going away in 2 weeks or so.
And what you seem to be missing is that it's indicative of just how little thought was put into the entirety of these changes, if they can break an entire game mechanic without realizing it, only to go "whoops".
It shows in plenty of places besides just ruining any attempts at exploration for the next two weeks. That's just the most obvious one. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |

Vamp Hakuli
Dead Of Night
10
|
Posted - 2014.05.15 21:00:00 -
[141] - Quote
Yes, saw them at first and thought hmm pretty cool, but overview ones telling me its a station....no really? Then I tried a relic site, lost most of the dam cans cause of the big black boxes!! Please, just a disable button for us to turn them off when we get past a month old toon eh? |

Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
319
|
Posted - 2014.05.15 22:15:00 -
[142] - Quote
Yep, it's FEATURES GONE WILD in here.
What I'd like to know is whether the person who decides what new stuff to put in the game has an office fling with half the staff on the new features team, and simply can't say no to anything for fear of losing his parking privileges?  CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, please give us an off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals. |

Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
223
|
Posted - 2014.05.15 22:27:00 -
[143] - Quote
+1 to the OP's point. The brackets are awful, mainly because they stop you targeting stuff behind them, and also because the information contained within is mainly useless. |

Vurreis Enaka
12 pound opinion Mildly Qualified
3
|
Posted - 2014.05.16 00:23:00 -
[144] - Quote
I do agree that some/most of the tool tips were not very useful for experienced players but please we need the old scatter can tips for data and relic sites, as now you can't see whats in a can without clicking it and when you do, you collect it. |

Dominus Tempus
The Scope Gallente Federation
44
|
Posted - 2014.05.16 00:36:00 -
[145] - Quote
The tooltips are a great update, CCP. +1
While you're working on the next patch, be sure to include the option to increase the size of these popups and the time it takes for them to fade out.
After that, remove the redundant option to delay the appearance of the new radial menu, and make it three times larger so the information is made more apparent and makes Eve more accessible to those of us unfortunate enough to have to use phones with one-inch buttons and read books with size 16 fonts.
Thanks. |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1789
|
Posted - 2014.05.16 00:40:00 -
[146] - Quote
Dominus Tempus wrote:The tooltips are a great update, CCP. +1
While you're working on the next patch, be sure to include the option to increase the size of these popups and the time it takes for them to fade out.
After that, remove the redundant option to delay the appearance of the new radial menu, and make it three times larger so the information is made more apparent and makes Eve more accessible to those of us unfortunate enough to have to use phones with one-inch buttons and read books with size 16 fonts.
Thanks. Also, I think the popups could use some !!!CASH FOR GOLD!!! adverts in big flashing hot pink comic sans, to improve the user UI experience. |

flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2160
|
Posted - 2014.05.16 10:46:00 -
[147] - Quote
Commandante Caldari wrote:Thanks to all crybabies because I never had realized the changes. Must be my tunnel vision after 8 years of routine.
I'm gonna have to agree on this that i haven't noticed any changes either till a corpie was complaining about them in Alliance chat.Dunno if that's because i don't do pve and target/pvp using the overview tab alone .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
|

handbanana
State War Academy Caldari State
124
|
Posted - 2014.05.16 16:11:00 -
[148] - Quote
The new Tooltips are great!
GÇ£It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.GÇ¥ -á-á -Jack Handy
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
994
|
Posted - 2014.05.16 16:41:00 -
[149] - Quote
There are CCP devs that actually play the game reviewing and play-testing design changes like this before release, right? Right?
Would you like to know more? |

Orla- King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
21
|
Posted - 2014.05.16 16:44:00 -
[150] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
52
|
Posted - 2014.05.21 02:17:00 -
[151] - Quote
Thanks for removing the "new" Tooltips CCP. Relic and Data sites are fun again! |

Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
147
|
Posted - 2014.05.21 05:15:00 -
[152] - Quote
Harrison Tato wrote:Thanks for removing the "new" Tooltips CCP. Relic and Data sites are fun again! What? I still have those dreaded tooltips in space. I can't even select my celestial of choice to run away from the smart bombing proteus trying to pod me. |

PoppityPoppity PEWpewPEW
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
|
Posted - 2014.05.21 13:54:00 -
[153] - Quote
Definitely agree that these need some work. An overview type filter system would be great to select which ( if any) tooltips you would want. |

Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
52
|
Posted - 2014.05.21 17:48:00 -
[154] - Quote
Yang Aurilen wrote:Harrison Tato wrote:Thanks for removing the "new" Tooltips CCP. Relic and Data sites are fun again! What? I still have those dreaded tooltips in space. I can't even select my celestial of choice to run away from the smart bombing proteus trying to pod me.
No idea man. They no longer plague the scatter containers. |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1418
|
Posted - 2014.05.21 21:53:00 -
[155] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:I noticed this in space!
That's .. ridiculous! I haven't seen every case yet, but why does it try to add information when this information is already presented?
Why the redundancy? Why are people being treated as if they were idiots?
Wtf is this crap ??
I'm not happy. :( I feel insulted. ):
More dumbing down to appeal to 12 year olds. It stinks of EA games. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1418
|
Posted - 2014.05.21 21:58:00 -
[156] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Because I am a fair man, I have been trying to give this a second chance, etc, etc, for the last two hours or so.
And now I will not be logging in until this "feature" is removed. Yes, it's really that bad.
While I recognize that someone somewhere probably worked hard on this, it is simply awful, and it needs to be disabled for the time being, ultimately made to be 100% optional.
I too will join you in not logging in. Ill content myself with chatting to my eve friends on ts. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Optimo Sebiestor
Intentionally Dense Easily Excited
254
|
Posted - 2014.05.21 22:05:00 -
[157] - Quote
This is exactly the reason why you dont do 6 week releases. It will get worse, mark my Words! |

Dex Lysia
Hollywood Shoes and Bags Chained Reactions
22
|
Posted - 2014.05.23 07:16:00 -
[158] - Quote
flakeys wrote:Commandante Caldari wrote:Thanks to all crybabies because I never had realized the changes. Must be my tunnel vision after 8 years of routine. I'm gonna have to agree on this that i haven't noticed any changes either till a corpie was complaining about them... I spotted them when they appeared but they weren't a problem until last night; I live in wormhole land and was out buying fuel and a new ship as we had a good highsec connection.
It obviously varies depending on the way people use the system but for me a tooltip popped up over the market search box every time I started to type the item I was looking for. It completely obscured the box and I had to keep moving the cursor away to verify what I had typed.
I like to join in on the whinge of the day like any proper Eve player but this one really can cause major annoyances under some circumstances.
|

Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
3901
|
Posted - 2014.05.23 09:19:00 -
[159] - Quote
Maybe you gents should try logging in again.
The recent updates Improved it a lot. Clear your bloody caches and revel in the fact that things are better again. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |

Lisa Gentilette
The Scope Gallente Federation
78
|
Posted - 2014.05.23 09:29:00 -
[160] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:Maybe you gents should try logging in again.
The recent updates Improved it a lot. Clear your bloody caches and revel in the fact that things are better again.
Still seeing redundant crap. >.< |
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