Wow thats really really small.

The milky way galaxy has a diameter of something above 100k light years with the nearest star to our sun being something about 4 light years away if I remember correctly. So if everything in eve fits into a 130 light year diameter that would fit into a tiny fraction of our galaxy.

Wow thats really really small.

The milky way galaxy has a diameter of something above 100k light years with the nearest star to our sun being something about 4 light years away if I remember correctly. So if everything in eve fits into a 130 light year diameter that would fit into a tiny fraction of our galaxy.

Do such clusters exist outside galaxies? I know that individual stars escape galaxies due to being slingshotted out by supermassive black holes, but an event like that would not leave a cluster of stars intact (much less leave their planets)

Well if you want to talk about game mechanics, no one could answer my question so far if its even possible to reach another point in a system without warping (and thus triggering a grid change).
For example slowboating from one planet to another and waiting a long time.

But the Milky Way has 100s of billions of stars. That would take wayyyyyyy to long to program!

New Eden isn't a galaxy, it's a dense cluster of starts that may or may not be part of a galaxy.

Wow thats really really small.

The milky way galaxy has a diameter of something above 100k light years with the nearest star to our sun being something about 4 light years away if I remember correctly. So if everything in eve fits into a 130 light year diameter that would fit into a tiny fraction of our galaxy.

This is entirely possible. Grid change is different than session change. For example, if you undock your ship and point it in a random direction, eventually the security guns/other people around the station will disappear from your overview. Similarly, if you turn around, eventually they would show up again. This works for anything within a system, it's only moving between systems that requires a session change.

Unfortunatly the explanation you provided doesn't prove the point. It may work that way or just just continue flying through empty space even if you flew in the right direction and have passed the right distance, because maybe loading the other enviornment (for example the planet you want to reach) is only triggered by warping.
As long as no one proves this by trying out only the devs can answer this, but they don't seem to want to

New Eden isn't a galaxy, it's a dense cluster of starts that may or may not be part of a galaxy.

Unfortunatly the explanation you provided doesn't prove the point. It may work that way or just just continue flying through empty space even if you flew in the right direction and have passed the right distance, because maybe loading the other enviornment (for example the planet you want to reach) is only triggered by warping.
As long as no one proves this by trying out only the devs can answer this, but they don't seem to want to

Let's seeGǪ

K-space width: 845,268,785,854,449,280 metres (~89.3 ly)
K-space depth: 215,604,069,482,645,952 metres (~22.8 ly)
K-space height: 957,320,693,030,119,680 metres (~101 ly)

Let's pick something reasonably fast that can stay that way for a loooong time. So, say, a 6km/s interceptor.

Just going from top to bottom GÇö the shortest traverse possible GÇö would take 1,138,680 years.
From north to south GÇö the longest (single-axis) traverse possible GÇö would take 5,055,943 years.

Hope you packed some lunch.


Oh, and warping across at 24 AU/s (which should be compared to slow-poke photons, which only travel at 0.002 AU/s) still takes 3 days. There's a reason why we have star gates.

Unfortunatly the explanation you provided doesn't prove the point. It may work that way or just just continue flying through empty space even if you flew in the right direction and have passed the right distance, because maybe loading the other enviornment (for example the planet you want to reach) is only triggered by warping.
As long as no one proves this by trying out only the devs can answer this, but they don't seem to want to

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another would be 2 of the gates in KDF-GY.

New Eden isn't a galaxy, it's a dense cluster of starts that may or may not be part of a galaxy.

Farthest system to farthest system (looks to be M-VACR to MVUO-F) is a travel distance on jumps of 113,739 lightyears. That's a reaonably straight line, but assuming a 15% overestimate of distance, that's still a minimum of about 97,000 lightyears across, or about 9 * 10^17 km.

A shuttle moves at around a half a kilometer per second. At that speed, it would take the shuttle around 60 billion years to cross that distance.

The fastest ship I've ever seen in EVE ran at 26 kilometers per second. At that velocity, it would take that ship a bit over 1 billion years to cross that distance.

A Leopard warps at 20 AU (1 AU = ~150 million kilometers) per second. Even at that speed, it would still take the Leopard just under 10 years to cross the distance (and that's assuming the Leopard could warp the whole distance in one go, rather than stopping for a capacitor recharge every ~100-200 AU like it has to now).

Moral of the story: EVE is BIG

Incidentally, 100,000 lightyears is roughly the prevailing estimate for diameter of the stellar disk of the Milky Way galaxy we inhabit, so EVE's galaxy is actually reasonably realistically sized. That said, if we want realism, there's should be a super-massive black hole with nothing around it right about between Derelik and Sing Laison.

There should be a super massive black hole in the middle of empire space if it were a galaxy.

Jita?

New Eden isn't a galaxy, it's a dense cluster of starts that may or may not be part of a galaxy.

Let's seeGǪ

K-space width: 845,268,785,854,449,280 metres (~89.3 ly)
K-space depth: 215,604,069,482,645,952 metres (~22.8 ly)
K-space height: 957,320,693,030,119,680 metres (~101 ly)

Let's pick something reasonably fast that can stay that way for a loooong time. So, say, a 6km/s interceptor.

Just going from top to bottom GÇö the shortest traverse possible GÇö would take 1,138,680 years.
From north to south GÇö the longest (single-axis) traverse possible GÇö would take 5,055,943 years.

Hope you packed some lunch.


Oh, and warping across at 24 AU/s (which should be compared to slow-poke photons, which only travel at 0.002 AU/s) still takes 3 days. There's a reason why we have star gates.

Ok so far this is the best explanation....so if I am getting this right...it is quite possible that unless I make a concerted effort...I will probably never see all of the eve universe...in my lifetime?