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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Tryptic Photon
Edited by: Tryptic Photon on 30/05/2006 19:59:52
Level 2 "Gone Berserk" popped a low-grade Snake Gamma implant. My corp mate got the same thing on the same mission the other day, something about this mission...
Same here. Just today actually.
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KA StarLifter
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:45:00 -
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Edited by: KA StarLifter on 29/06/2006 15:46:50
The whole title, and focus, of this thread needs to be narrowed down - pick a level to ask about.
It seems like some are finding some lvl 2 missions that are really worth it. Some lvl 3's may be, as well as some lvl 4's. How does this really help anyone? It doesn't. We need to categorize the missions that are worth it by level.
Speaking as a lvl 4, Q 20 mission runner, 'Serpentis Extravaganzas' have absolutely sucked in as far as loot. Up until yesterday I've been looting all the cans on the mission, even from structures, but I've decided it isn't even worth the time to loot the cans on this one.
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Sabahl
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:48:00 -
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Well I would love to kow if anyone has had any faction loot or faction implants from missions post patch |
Professor Smartypants
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:07:00 -
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Got two local hull conversion expanded cargos from Illegal activity 3 / 3 last night.
The Agent level 3 version 
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Matt Armada
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:18:00 -
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Best loot iv gotten, eprsonally?...Level 2 mission from one of the Agents in space at Jolia grand center for information *Cant rember mission name*
implant worth 6 mill...otherwize, loots been kinda crappy for me..
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:58:00 -
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Got a DG 425 rail from a lvl4 Gallente Navy kill. Cant remember which one 
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:26:00 -
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Just got a local hull from the serpentis station in Vengeance.
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Hockston Axe
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Posted - 2006.06.29 20:36:00 -
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Got a Beta Cargo spander from a lvl 2 Illegal Activies pt1 once. I wasn't even gonna get the can, cause it was from a lowly Navy Soldier but decided to check it out anyway, best lvl 2 mission payoff I've had.
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velocoraptor
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Posted - 2006.06.29 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion
Got a DG 425 rail from a lvl4 Gallente Navy kill. Cant remember which one
You reduced to a mission w***e (again) Crel? 
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Bermag
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Posted - 2006.06.30 13:44:00 -
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I have gotten some good loot from tech secrets lvl 3 part 1. yesterday I got a +3 Implant (memory I think) and the previous time I did that mission I got a medium projectile BPO (not that valuable but was a bit unusual, never heard of BPOs dropping as loot - only BPC).
Also got an implant worth 40 mill (don't remember which maybe that which give +3% damage to all turrets) but don't remember which mission. Think it is that mission where you always(?) get an implant from a structure.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2006.06.30 14:40:00 -
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I got a Local Hull Nano the last two times I did that mission- about 3m each- and a +3 Perception implant once (went for 25m).
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Topodo
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Posted - 2006.06.30 14:48:00 -
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I think the best loot I ever acquired off 6 months of mission running was a prototype 425mm hybrid off a battleship, low grade Snake Gamma, and the highest variation damage control.
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Raskor
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Posted - 2006.06.30 15:38:00 -
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In the past year or so I've gotten a +3 implant, all sorts of great named guns & launchers, a few local hull expanders. I also got a +4 implant (charisma) from the L3 Angel Strike storyline. My first ever L4, I was looting AE4 for someone else and looted a 1400mm Prototype (worth 30m+ at the time). Too bad I got aggro and my cruiser was no match - the 1400 popped.
Recently, but I think prior to patch, I got a 8m SS bs on an L4 Gone Berserk that dropped ammo, tag, SS 100mn ab and SS EM Hardener.
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Trioxis
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Posted - 2006.06.30 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Trioxis on 30/06/2006 18:00:19
I suppose you get those faction stuff from mission in low-sec?
The best loot I've gotten.. a couple of named Heavy Launchers (Limos), an Arby Assault Missile Launcher, Hypnos ECM (what's it again, multi?), a few named Rails. Pretty much only the cheaper stuff.
I can't remember the missions the loot comes from. But all of them are lvl 3.
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Raskor
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Posted - 2006.07.01 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Trioxis
I suppose you get those faction stuff from mission in low-sec?
Actually, in my case it was a 0.9 agent in a 0.9 or 0.8 system.
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Contralto
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Posted - 2006.07.01 05:25:00 -
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Pirate Slaughter Lvl 4 0.3 sec system, got 2 local hull expanders and second time got 1 local 2 beta and 1 22% expander plus 2400m3 general loot. thats all in last week or so.
A colleague got no valuable loot on same mission yesterday.
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Greenbolt
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Posted - 2006.07.05 18:51:00 -
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An idea for all of you who say its not worth your time to loot because you make more doing the next L4 mission. (and ive been there myself on some long L4s where I just wanna complete mission and go to bed..) Ask if any of the new or newer members of your corp want to play loot monkey. Have them warp to you at end of mission or toss them a BM of the can location after you finish mission.
Sure to your average L4 running pilot a couple mil at most on an average loot pick up may not mean much compared to value of LP..but to newer corp mates who may just be running L2s or such...its more than worth their time to collect the stuff..either to use..sell or refine.
Ive done this for several corp mates and they have always appreciated it. And when I was new..ive collected cans from some of the older L4 runners.
Just an idea out there...to newer characters...'worth the time' takes a whole new meaning.
Greenbolt.
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Will Farva
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Posted - 2006.07.06 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sabahl
Well I would love to kow if anyone has had any faction loot or faction implants from missions post patch
Aye, I had a dread gurista BS spawn on "the blockade". Apart from a 4.7 million bounty I got a Crystal Alpha (not low-grade). This was approx 2 weeks ago.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.07.06 08:29:00 -
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u do get lucky sometimes but all thigns being random most of the time u dont get much
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Remedios Sonrisa
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Posted - 2006.07.06 17:49:00 -
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Running lvl 3s in my Vexor, you'd think CCP would let me have better loot for doing missions in a less-than-suitable ship. But alas, most of the loot I have retrieved have been reprocessing-fodder.
Oddly however, I found 3 Hardwiring implants in one can from a mission. Ten minutes later, I got the same mission from another mission, and voila, from the same can drop (off of a collidable structure), I found another Hardwiring implant! Odd, but that was about as exciting as it got. The rest have been something like 50000 civilian shield boosters and 600000 cargo scanners ):
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Why is so happy?
Because he joined Eve University!
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Hockston Axe
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Posted - 2006.07.06 18:54:00 -
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It's all what the individual considers 'good' loot too. If you're only shooting for that 100M isk mod, then good luck. Rariety is part of that high price.
Level 2 missions have been kind to me. From Illegal Activies I've gotten 2 Beta Cargo, 1 Local Cargo and a Mark 1 Modified SS Cargo. Also the top named roid scanner, which isn't worth much but I'll use it myself.
The "insert pirate faction" Spies always gives some cap/cpu mods from the small structure at the warp in point. I've gotten the top named CPU enhancer and a Local cap mod from that, plus other named cap mods.
Getting crap loot doesn't bother me, it's when I get no loot that gets my goat. I've done missions where you have to pop about 20 ships, and got literally 2 cans, a civy shield and another piece of junk. That new mission with the personnel transport where you have to bring back five militants, that's the worst waste of time. You only get 10 marines from that mission, and that's usually it. It's also the only time I get major lag, cause some jagoff thought it would be a bright idea to put 1000 wall pieces and other structures in that mission, yet not once has there been a can from it, I popped them all about 5 times with nothing for it, now I don't bother.
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Sunni Dhay
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Posted - 2006.07.06 23:35:00 -
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I got a shadow serpentis magnetic plate on a level 2 mission, just in normal rat loot dropped from a frig. Good loot drops are rare but they do happen 'sometimes'.
♥ Sunni ♥
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Fadunkel
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Posted - 2006.07.06 23:50:00 -
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Sometimes you do get good loot, butmost of the loot is crap... 
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Durindana
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Posted - 2006.07.08 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Arakasai
Edited by: Arakasai on 31/05/2006 16:05:10
It is worth more to go run another mission rather than loot. The problem is that people cannot get the very rare expensive loot items off their minds and convince themselves that it is worth it to loot.
Save yourself the hassle, unless you enjoy looting just skip it and do another mission instead. Time is better spent that way.
I actually track the numbers, I don't just "feel" one way or the other is better. Track it yourself and I imagine you will agree with me.
I don't disagree that actually tracking the isk/hour (the only thing that truly matters in this question) will yield the correct answer.
HOWEVER - I submit that your sample size (one month of missions) may not be large enough. There are enough missions, and enough variability amongst the loot drops, that just a few really significant drops might skew looting ahead of maxxing bounties/reward/bonus: drops that you just may not have gotten, and someone else might.
You also didn't specify what missions you were doing - I'm guessing lvl4, which imho probably skews your results in the direction of not looting for those running lower levels.
Only with the loot tables in hand could we know absolutely for certain, but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes more than a month of sample to converge on the true correct conclusion.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2006.07.08 02:47:00 -
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I sporadically run level 3 kill missions in high sec space. The best loot I've ever gotten was a Domi warp disruptor (the 30km one), but that was pre-patch. I haven't gotten anything really worthwhile post-patch, though I still loot the cans with a tractor beam.
The Red Mom of WarÖ
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Don Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:13:00 -
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i would agree it takes more than a month to find out if looting is worth it
i had in 1-2 weeks 2 140ish mill isk implant drops and 1 30ish mill isk implant drop
and since then have gone more than a month with no worthwhile drops
so honestly to gauge if its worth it u would need a months info from a crapload of people OR several years worth of missions for one person
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Don Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:16:00 -
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one thing i would really like to know is if anyone has gotten the rare commander spawns since the patch?
im a bit worried that maybe all theese new missions was a step in removing that chance?
and honestly the chance even though its very slight means alot to my enjoyment of running missions
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Croak
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Posted - 2006.07.08 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Durindana
Originally by: Arakasai
Edited by: Arakasai on 31/05/2006 16:05:10
It is worth more to go run another mission rather than loot. The problem is that people cannot get the very rare expensive loot items off their minds and convince themselves that it is worth it to loot.
Save yourself the hassle, unless you enjoy looting just skip it and do another mission instead. Time is better spent that way.
I actually track the numbers, I don't just "feel" one way or the other is better. Track it yourself and I imagine you will agree with me.
I don't disagree that actually tracking the isk/hour (the only thing that truly matters in this question) will yield the correct answer.
HOWEVER - I submit that your sample size (one month of missions) may not be large enough. There are enough missions, and enough variability amongst the loot drops, that just a few really significant drops might skew looting ahead of maxxing bounties/reward/bonus: drops that you just may not have gotten, and someone else might.
You also didn't specify what missions you were doing - I'm guessing lvl4, which imho probably skews your results in the direction of not looting for those running lower levels.
Only with the loot tables in hand could we know absolutely for certain, but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes more than a month of sample to converge on the true correct conclusion.
He also doesn't mention his looting "technique", cargo cap of the ship he's in, speed of the ship, and whether or not he's got loot cans strung out all over deadspace.
I run 80% of my L3's in a Domi, the other 20% in an Enyo or Ishkur. In the Domi, I generally sit at one spot and let the rats come to me, so all the cans are within 20k, and only take about 5 minutes tops to collect once a room is clear, and that's without using a tractor. I'll net about 400k in junk reprocess loot, average another 400-500k in sellable loot (Compressed coils, arbalests, etc) and occasionally will get something sweet, like the Shadow Serpentis Explosive Hardener I got a couple days ago.
900k isn't a bad haul for an extra 5-10 minutes per mission, considering the bigger mission rewards for my usual agent (35 effective Quality) averages about 800k + LP, and bounties average about 1m.
In the AF's, yep, stuff is strung out all over by the end of the mission, so I just BM and come back later in a fast Catalyst, unless the mission was several jumps from my base, in which case I'll just try to grab as much stuff as my AF's little cargo bay can hold.
But the long and short of it is that I'm not overly worried about maximizing ISK per hour, half the fun of doing missions for me is opening the cans to see what Santa brought. Mostly, it's lumps of coal, but occassionally I'll get a Turbo Man. 
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Hex'Caliber
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Posted - 2006.07.27 05:11:00 -
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I am just about to finish angel strike the 10 part level 3 storyline missions and have already made over 250 mil in implants alone. I snagged 2 +4's (sadly, one was charisma) and a missile implant worth 140mil, all the implants dropped from the komni ships.
I also regularly get proto rails of all sizes, various cargo expanders once in a while and other reasonable assorted loot, although I have yet to get any faction gear drop. This is all post patch. Some days seem better than others, I tend to get less decent loot during the weekends, perhaps they are using tables to limit the amount of higher value loot dropping on any given day?
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dec0
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 13:22:00 -
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Well ive been doing the lvl 3 illegal activity missions yesterday and today. Yesterday i got a local hull expanded cargo thingy which i sold for 27.5 mill, that was on the first missions, and ive just finished the last mission and ive got 2 other cargo expanders, one worth 1 mill and one worth 10 mill, hurrah for hauler geeks! aint done lvl 3s for ages, got a nasty shock off some of them (theyre much harder than before lol), and previous to this the best i got was a pandemonium bcs.
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