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Nathan Yates Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda 0	Posted - 2014.05.19 13:48:00 - [31] - Quote +1
Delhaven Vicis Inter Astrum I'd Rather Be Roaming 45	Posted - 2014.05.19 17:00:00 - [32] - Quote This seems way too logical, simple, and easy. I'd get a lot of use out of it for separating stuff out in station inventory. You can't put containers in containers, so this would be a nice way to split out stuff that's not used often. It could also be used for prepackaged kits. Need a PvP ship, spare ammo, drones, and alternate fittings? Package it all up in one nice bundle. Have a "Welcome to the Corporation!" gift basket you give out to new members? Make up 20 of them and give them out as needed. +1
Thoirdhealbhach Liga der hessischen Gentlemen 3	Posted - 2014.05.27 17:48:00 - [33] - Quote Great Idea! +1
Leafar Nightfall Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 125	Posted - 2014.05.27 18:42:00 - [34] - Quote I don't always do logistics, but when I do, I want to bubble wrap all the things +1, and another +1 if we can pop the bubbles
TheSmokingHertog TALIBAN EXPRESS 229	Posted - 2014.05.27 21:31:00 - [35] - Quote Let me sneak this in here, crosspost from little things thread; * Suggestion: Make special plastic wraps Keywords: CoCo, Courier, Enablers, PlasticWrap Note: Make it possible to ship Ores, "ammo types" or 'Special Bay' groups in special contracts. Make it so that they get a wrap of one of the special hold types. Since we have now special bays in Transport Ships, transporters should be able to utilize them (and it would give a reason to train racial industry to V again). Such a wrap could be shipped in the special bay type of the sort chosen or in a general freight area. I could image that the special wraps would all have a different color, to make it easier for the transport organisations in EVE. Just limit the max. size of the contracts based on the maximum volumes of the volume bays. *
fudface ACME-INC 49	Posted - 2014.05.28 10:10:00 - [36] - Quote being able to wrap up a ship and the fit would be fantastic for several reasons conflict driver need i say more tidy for the OCD my 2 isk worth +1 for this idea
Maximus Aerelius PROPHET OF ENIGMA 1275	Posted - 2014.05.28 11:58:00 - [37] - Quote Ah hell yes, why not. I'd say make it an NPC seeded item to start with from each of the Empires main Courier\Hauling corporations (I've read EVE Source, they exist!) and this will add an ISK sink in as well. Not too expensive but not dirt cheap either. Eventually add this as a schematic or something to PI or a BPO that uses PI goods and voila, another thing to make, build, sell. GG OP. +1 Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > \|_\| < Fill 'er up!
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1102	Posted - 2014.05.28 14:45:00 - [38] - Quote This need to be a thing.
Batolemaeus Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda 185	Posted - 2014.05.29 15:30:00 - [39] - Quote Maximus Aerelius wrote: I'd say make it an NPC seeded item to start with from each of the Empires main Courier\Hauling corporations (I've read EVE Source, they exist!) and this will add an ISK sink in as well. Not too expensive but not dirt cheap either. Eventually add this as a schematic or something to PI or a BPO that uses PI goods and voila, another thing to make, build, sell. That is exactly the kind of overhead I want to get rid of. I didn't make this thread to make logistics more tedious.
Kasli Catal Sniggwaffe WAFFLES. 5	Posted - 2014.05.29 16:02:00 - [40] - Quote I like this idea. It might make most freight containers obsolete though. Why use a set of 50k cans that you only fill part way to separate items for different clients when you can custom wrap them.
Batolemaeus Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda 186	Posted - 2014.05.29 17:25:00 - [41] - Quote Kasli Catal wrote: I like this idea. It might make most freight containers obsolete though. Why use a set of 50k cans that you only fill part way to separate items for different clients when you can custom wrap them. But that is already the case. Plastic wraps are functionally superior if you are using them as shipping crates. I mean, there are a few reason why I'd want containers: I want to use magical hyperspace to store more stuff in a hauler I want to separate cargo in my ship cargo hold (refitting mods) and need to put things in them and take things out I want airtight shipping crates (plastic wrap) and don't need to modify the crate after creating it I want a container for security (audit log etc) I want to organize my personal hangar Giving a simple right click stack -> wrap in plastic option (account for the need to also add ships) doesn't change the picture. I am not proposing wild functional divergence, I'm perfectly fine with the current mechanics beyond UX gripes with the process of creating those shipping crates. The use cases for other types of containers are still valid and aren't touched on.
Meandering Milieu House Aratus Fatal Ascension 64	Posted - 2014.05.29 21:03:00 - [42] - Quote I don't understand a thing about courier contracts, or plastic wrap. Can someone give me the layman's of the current system, and what this proposes to do? Because I didn't understand it at all from the OP.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 1462	Posted - 2014.05.29 21:10:00 - [43] - Quote Meandering Milieu wrote: I don't understand a thing about courier contracts, or plastic wrap. Can someone give me the layman's of the current system, and what this proposes to do? Because I didn't understand it at all from the OP. Plastic wrap is when you place a courier contract package into a courier contract. The goods inside cannot be scanned and the package has the same volume as the goods inside. The proposal is to allow a system to put things into a package of any size that is unscannable, without the use of courier contracts. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!!
Paul Panala Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF 168	Posted - 2014.05.29 21:12:00 - [44] - Quote Paikis wrote: Scan Reflective Bubble Wrap. Made from plastics or something from PI. It is a container that is produced and used like any other, except it prevents cargohold scanning on items inside of it and it can stretch to fit any size items. The restriction? You need one for every item (or stack of items) that you want to be scan proof. That is one idea. Another is to not have that option or anything like it. IMO being immune to scanners is something that should be limited to ships designed for it. I do not think it is good for the game if someone can pretty safely wrap 100 B in product up into a freighter and auto-pilot it across high sec.
hmskrecik TransMine Group German Information Network Alliance 200	Posted - 2014.05.29 21:28:00 - [45] - Quote Reaver Glitterstim wrote: The proposal is to allow a system to put things into a package of any size that is unscannable, without the use of courier contracts. I think you're missing the point. As I understand it, it's Quote: to allow a system to put things into a package of any size , no more and no less. I would use it even if it was fully scannable. The containers and wrapping serve different purposes. Containers are to organize goods, are to be put to and taken from many times. Wrapping instead is to make packages, created once and taken from once. They complement each other.
Evelgrivion Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder 296	Posted - 2014.05.29 21:38:00 - [46] - Quote hmskrecik wrote: Reaver Glitterstim wrote: The proposal is to allow a system to put things into a package of any size that is unscannable, without the use of courier contracts. I think you're missing the point. As I understand it, it's Quote: to allow a system to put things into a package of any size , no more and no less. I would use it even if it was fully scannable. The containers and wrapping serve different purposes. Containers are to organize goods, are to be put to and taken from many times. Wrapping instead is to make packages, created once and taken from once. They complement each other. Indeed, this; the purpose of the idea is to bundle items together for one time transit, with a method that is more convenient than cargo containers. It doesn't have to be, nor should it be, un-scannable.
Batolemaeus Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda 186	Posted - 2014.05.30 07:06:00 - [47] - Quote Reaver Glitterstim wrote: Plastic wrap is when you place a courier contract package into a courier contract. The goods inside cannot be scanned and the package has the same volume as the goods inside. The proposal is to allow a system to put things into a package of any size that is unscannable, without the use of courier contracts. No it isn't, and I don't care about that mechanic. The base problem of organizing corp/alliance logistics is the inability to separate shipments for different people in a way that does not waste space without first creating a courier contract to an alt and using the resulting plastic wrap. This is purely a UX/UI problem. I have not proposed a specific solution on purpose because I am not a UI designer and don't know Eve's backend. However, some possible ones come to mind: Context Menu Item. Select multiple items, right click -> plastic wrap ; Items are packaged into a shipping crate A a flexible volume container that shrinks and expands when items are put in or taken out. Probably the nicest solution, but perhaps unwanted because it obsoletes half of Eve's containers
hmskrecik TransMine Group German Information Network Alliance 200	Posted - 2014.05.30 15:50:00 - [48] - Quote Batolemaeus wrote: Context Menu Item. Select multiple items, right click -> plastic wrap ; Items are packaged into a shipping crate - Or reuse contract UI: right click -> plastic wrap -> go to the item selection as in contracts.
Stalence Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF 19	Posted - 2014.05.30 16:10:00 - [49] - Quote Quote: Context Menu Item. Select multiple items, right click -> plastic wrap ; Items are packaged into a shipping crate This makes complete sense and it helps makes the lives of logistics and supply chain pilots better I'm all for it. +1
Noxisia Arkana Deadspace Knights 357	Posted - 2014.05.30 16:44:00 - [50] - Quote hmskrecik wrote: I like the idea and for quite different reasons. Now and then there happens a situation when I'd like to prepare a ship for use, just not now. Such wrapping would be nice solution, when I could wrap a ship along with all modules I'd like to use into one nice package which could have been moved wherever I want it to have. +1 and mostly for the reason above. I'd love to ship prebuilt ships to my new pilots.
Batolemaeus Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda 190	Posted - 2014.05.30 20:33:00 - [51] - Quote I have amended the original post to make it clearer. As clear as my wall of text can be. Maybe. Hopefully.
Crzykiddo The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 1	Posted - 2014.05.30 20:50:00 - [52] - Quote I remember back in the day when CCP was talking about the new inventory system. I was thinking that this was going to happen. Unfortunately, I was disappointed. Idea is +1 from me, as long as the contents are still scannable.

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