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E Thatcher
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.20 17:32:00 -
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If you would have followed the uni's overview settings you would have learned all you neeeded to know about high sec aggression mechanics. If they threw you out, it will take more than a survey but I applaud your eforts to at least pretend like your trying, that you weren't at fault and that it was other players and game mechanics that led to your expulsion.Thats the true EVE spirit if I ever heard it. |

Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
268
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Posted - 2014.05.20 17:37:00 -
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E Thatcher wrote:If you would have followed the uni's overview settings you would have learned all you neeeded to know about high sec aggression mechanics. If they threw you out, it will take more than a survey but I applaud your eforts to at least pretend like your trying, that you weren't at fault and that it was other players and game mechanics that led to your expulsion.Thats the true EVE spirit if I ever heard it.
It was Kelduum that led to my expulsion, nothing to do with overview settings and mechanics. But the expectations surrounding high-sec and the economy around high-sec aggression has always interested me. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1480
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Posted - 2014.05.20 17:54:00 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:Tippia wrote:The GÇ£Are you a perpetrator of suicide ganking?GÇ¥ is a bit of a loaded question. You really should have provided two GÇ£noGÇ¥ answers: GÇ£no, I don't do themGÇ¥, and GÇ£no, I abhor themGÇ¥. The current one slants far too heavily towards the latter. Excellent suggestion. But I can't quite change the form now without messing up the results. in this case i have chosen "i do it once in a while". I think at the end you can simply take this option as "i don't do it" The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Mana Shian
State Industries
1
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Posted - 2014.05.20 18:03:00 -
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According to this personality test, I qualify as a, "Hyper-Carebear." Do I get a potato now? |

Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
268
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Posted - 2014.05.20 18:11:00 -
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Mana Shian wrote:According to this personality test, I qualify as a, "Hyper-Carebear." Do I get a potato now?
/me hands out complimentary potatoes. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |

CompleteFailure
Polaris Rising The Bastion
143
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Posted - 2014.05.20 18:13:00 -
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Survey blah blah blah...I think we all know the real question here: What the everliving crap does one have to do to get kicked from E-UNI after only a month?  |

Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
270
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Posted - 2014.05.20 18:20:00 -
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CompleteFailure wrote:Survey blah blah blah...I think we all know the real question here: What the everliving crap does one have to do to get kicked from E-UNI after only a month? 
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=210049&find=unread
That, if you want to know. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1510
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Posted - 2014.05.20 18:33:00 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:CompleteFailure wrote:Survey blah blah blah...I think we all know the real question here: What the everliving crap does one have to do to get kicked from E-UNI after only a month?  https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=210049&find=unreadThat, if you want to know. But the leadership has changed now. I'm sure (or at least I hope) they are less bearish these days. Oh i remember that thread. Glad to hear your still around "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
Unsuccessful At Everything |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2749
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Posted - 2014.05.20 18:38:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Amyclas Amatin wrote:CompleteFailure wrote:Survey blah blah blah...I think we all know the real question here: What the everliving crap does one have to do to get kicked from E-UNI after only a month?  https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=210049&find=unread
That, if you want to know. But the leadership has changed now. I'm sure (or at least I hope) they are less bearish these days. Oh i remember that thread. Glad to hear your still around 
He managed to escape the soul sucking shithole that is E-UNI, so he had a better chance than most. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |

Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
234
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Posted - 2014.05.20 18:41:00 -
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Markus45 wrote:"I would encourage new players to get into theft, suicide ganking, war-decs and awoxing; to what extent do you agree with this statement? "
Don't like the wording. I love theft, suicide ganking, war-decs. I think attacking corp mates in high-sec is pathetic by comparison.
Filled the survey out though +1
Little confused by this. I mean, theft is basically joining a corp, then taking advantage of them to steal all their ****. AWOXing is just doing the same, but blowing them up instead. I can't really see why one is fine with you, but the other is "pathetic." "EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler |
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Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
1144
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Posted - 2014.05.20 18:50:00 -
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E Thatcher wrote:If you would have followed the uni's overview settings you would have learned all you neeeded to know about high sec aggression mechanics. If they threw you out, it will take more than a survey but I applaud your eforts to at least pretend like your trying, that you weren't at fault and that it was other players and game mechanics that led to your expulsion.Thats the true EVE spirit if I ever heard it.
I was following the whole issue when it went down. Amyclas was expelled for unapologetically posting his own opinions on the EVE Online forums, which was against the rules for E-Uni bros at that time. The rules have since been changed. Also, I've never heard him complain about having been expelled, or blame "other players and game mechanics". www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |

Marsha Mallow
636
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Posted - 2014.05.20 19:04:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:E Thatcher wrote:If you would have followed the uni's overview settings you would have learned all you neeeded to know about high sec aggression mechanics. If they threw you out, it will take more than a survey but I applaud your eforts to at least pretend like your trying, that you weren't at fault and that it was other players and game mechanics that led to your expulsion.Thats the true EVE spirit if I ever heard it. I was following the whole issue when it went down. Amyclas was expelled for unapologetically posting his own opinions on the EVE Online forums, which was against the rules for E-Uni bros at that time. The rules have since been changed. Also, I've never heard him complain about having been expelled, or blame "other players and game mechanics". Funnily enough, the thread linked and the comments here actually reflect positively on him. I've no idea what he's like ingame, but if you're going to follow someone around whittering about events from years before - which is a bit petty by the way - probably best to pick those which actually make them look bad ;) (Not directed at you HB btw) TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1248
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Posted - 2014.05.20 19:38:00 -
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You're offering potatoes but no bacon? I want my money back. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2429
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Posted - 2014.05.20 19:44:00 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:E Thatcher wrote:If you would have followed the uni's overview settings you would have learned all you neeeded to know about high sec aggression mechanics. If they threw you out, it will take more than a survey but I applaud your eforts to at least pretend like your trying, that you weren't at fault and that it was other players and game mechanics that led to your expulsion.Thats the true EVE spirit if I ever heard it. It was Kelduum that led to my expulsion, nothing to do with overview settings and mechanics. But the expectations surrounding high-sec and the economy around high-sec aggression has always interested me.
You're in a better place now anyway. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1344
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Posted - 2014.05.20 20:15:00 -
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Bit of a loaded survey, but you may collect some useful metrics from it. So done. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1344
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Posted - 2014.05.20 20:19:00 -
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Galen Darksmith wrote: Little confused by this. I mean, theft is basically joining a corp, then taking advantage of them to steal all their ****. AWOXing is just doing the same, but blowing them up instead. I can't really see why one is fine with you, but the other is "pathetic."
Because theft requires them to trust you in a directorship role so requires an active decision on their part and work on your part.
AWOXing is taking advantage of a legacy mechanic that should have been removed from the game because it's a weird exception to the concord rules and was implemented specifically to allow testing of fits way back when, and the dueling mechanic has rendered it obsolete.
So yea, that's why I regard AWOXing as lowest of the low and a good corp theft, while scummy, is to be appreciated as a work of villany that took some effort. |

Sibyyl
Brave Collective
1070
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Posted - 2014.05.20 20:43:00 -
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Quote:Have you ever been a victim of suicide ganking while you were afk? This seems like a loaded question. You shouldn't assume we play afk. Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2438
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Posted - 2014.05.20 20:53:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Galen Darksmith wrote: Little confused by this. I mean, theft is basically joining a corp, then taking advantage of them to steal all their ****. AWOXing is just doing the same, but blowing them up instead. I can't really see why one is fine with you, but the other is "pathetic."
Because theft requires them to trust you in a directorship role so requires an active decision on their part and work on your part. AWOXing is taking advantage of a legacy mechanic that should have been removed from the game because it's a weird exception to the concord rules and was implemented specifically to allow testing of fits way back when, and the dueling mechanic has rendered it obsolete. So yea, that's why I regard AWOXing as lowest of the low and a good corp theft, while scummy, is to be appreciated as a work of villany that took some effort.
Awoxing is 100% preventable by 5 minutes of effort during the recruitment process. It happens all the time and is the reason my awoxing alts have to shotgun their applications. Only lazy or dumb people get awoxed. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1249
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Posted - 2014.05.20 20:55:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Quote:Have you ever been a victim of suicide ganking while you were afk? This seems like a loaded question. You shouldn't assume we play afk.
That's why the question before it doesn't mention AFK, just whether or not you've been ganked. Seems to me he's trying to figure out how many respondants were ganked and how many of those were being un-smart. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
420
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Posted - 2014.05.20 21:02:00 -
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2 general categories for this:
1 - Those who care to varying degrees and enjoy it consistently 2 - Those who say they don't care, but will voice disdain if is it too inconsistent.
In the end it does not matter what people say on the degree of their caring. The reality is that a good brand and consistent story is important on many levels, If not for the integrity of the Role Play, then for the confidence of all other users in the ability of the producers to manage different aspects of the project. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
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Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
275
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Posted - 2014.05.20 21:22:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Quote:Have you ever been a victim of suicide ganking while you were afk? This seems like a loaded question. You shouldn't assume we play afk. That's why the question before it doesn't mention AFK, just whether or not you've been ganked. Seems to me he's trying to figure out how many respondants were ganked and how many of those were being un-smart.
I can testify that if Miniluv comes for you, you will be pinned down by several machariels, while you spam the warp button as a ball of death takes it time to roll towards you. Quite a few players initially try to negotiate a ransom, then freeze up when they see the Talos-swarm.
If marked out as a target you can be bumped several hundred kilometers off a stargate and held there for as long as it takes for the fleet to kill you while you mash every button available in a vain attempt to escape. It is quite an experience.
The New Order might love afk players, Miniluv just loves all successful EVE players. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4907
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Posted - 2014.05.20 21:43:00 -
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Wow nice graph generation on results. Would play again. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Winchester Steele
1135
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Posted - 2014.05.20 23:06:00 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:2 general categories for this:
1 - Those who care to varying degrees and enjoy it consistently 2 - Those who say they don't care, but will voice disdain if is it too inconsistent.
In the end it does not matter what people say on the degree of their caring. The reality is that a good brand and consistent story is important on many levels, If not for the integrity of the Role Play, then for the confidence of all other users in the ability of the producers to manage different aspects of the project.
Wrong thread bro  ... |

Marsha Mallow
646
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Posted - 2014.05.20 23:19:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Quote:Have you ever been a victim of suicide ganking while you were afk? This seems like a loaded question. You shouldn't assume we play afk. I thought I hadn't been suicide ganked, but then I remembered. I AFK hauled some BPCs (when you couldn't tell BPCs/BPOs apart on scan) to Jita in a frig then went to the pub. For 5 hours, forgot I was logged in. Some berk suicided a BS on me. Was a big one at the time, and worth way less than than the cargo. So I got home, did the moment of panic, giggled. Then noticed he'd podded me too. My plus 5s! Fortunately kbs didn't pull that at the time so I got away with it. Still, he didn't know he got them either. Still not sure who won there >.> TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |

Antihrist Pripravnik
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
267
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Posted - 2014.05.20 23:39:00 -
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SurrenderMonkey wrote:I don't love the wording of some of these. For example...
"Have you ever been the victim of a non-consensual war-dec? *"
I've been the recipient of such a war-dec, I've lost things in such wars (generally an offline POS while I was away from the game for a spell, **** happens), but "victim" implies an entirely different experience. This... Recipient or even "defender in a..." would be much better choice. My signature got stolen (o.0) |

Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
276
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Posted - 2014.05.21 00:02:00 -
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I see your point. I can just imagine all of the CFC being victims of the belligerent Goblin. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6429
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Posted - 2014.05.21 00:10:00 -
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I submitted mine, also I suggest that next time you word it to be a tad more... neutral. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1535
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Posted - 2014.05.21 00:23:00 -
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Congrats on taking a more analytical and less emotional approach to seeing what the community's views are on this (at least, the part of the community that inhabits the forum).
Some of the results are a little surprising to me, but in a pleasant way.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
495
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Posted - 2014.05.21 01:17:00 -
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First, your survey is useless as it ignores a large proportion of the player base. Next time, if there is one, make the survey applicable to everyone (i.e. including NPC corp members).
Also, as Tippia mentioned, the suicide ganking question is unanswerable for many players (me included). I have never done it, but I can't say there are no circumstances in which I might consider it. There is no option for me to say that and I can't truthfully select any of the existing options, so I can't complete the survey.
Couldn't complete all the wardec questions either, so again unable to finish the survey.
Wasted my time going through to the end before discovering that. Not helpful. |

Delhaven
Vicis Inter Astrum I'd Rather Be Roaming
45
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Posted - 2014.05.21 01:36:00 -
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Very biased, but interesting to fill out. Curious results. |
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