tldr: Please fill in the survey

Last year, I conducted a survey on high-sec aggression when I was a month old character just kicked out of Eve-Uni.

I have refined my research questions and created A NEW SURVEY, and am excited to hear and quantify the communities opinions on high-sec aggression mechanics and game-play. I am also concerned about the impact of high-sec income on PVP, and the fact that it is possible and highly desirable for many PVP players to rely on high-sec income to fund their PVP activities.

The google analytics for the survey can be found and read here. I hope to receive opinions from a variety of players and communities. Please tell all your friends to participate in this research.

The point of your survey is to?

Finally, something interesting in General Discussion. I have filled out the document. Can you please Release the Statistics when you have compiled all the info :). I would be interesting to see.

The GÇ£Are you a perpetrator of suicide ganking?GÇ¥ is a bit of a loaded question. You really should have provided two GÇ£noGÇ¥ answers: GÇ£no, I don't do themGÇ¥, and GÇ£no, I abhor themGÇ¥. The current one slants far too heavily towards the latter.

I can't fill in this survey. It assumes that I participate in any activity to make isk.

I especially love being able to read all the "Private" notes lol

The survey was interesting, and I filled it out.

In the future you should take better care with how you word your questions and responses, and endeavor to provide the ability to opt out of or provide unambiguous answers to questions that do not necessarily apply to the person taking the survey. Some of your questions seem presumptive, as well as the provided answers.

For instance, while I occasionally go exploring, most of my PvP is financed by selling the occasional PLEX. While this technically occurs in high sec, I doubt that it meets the spirit of the question you seemed to be asking.

Excellent suggestion. But I can't quite change the form now without messing up the results.

The statistics are already public.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1RkFsVEKJ3Tezn3x7FvFWfW2sUnm-U6CPG7Vt8oMqsiY/viewanalytics

OK, who of you guys made the "Is-wardec-evasion-bad?"-question show us the middlefinger? Goddamnit people, stop being so undecisive!

Every playstyle is valid

OK, who of you guys made the "Is-wardec-evasion-bad?"-question show us the middlefinger? Goddamnit people, stop being so undecisive!

If you would have followed the uni's overview settings you would have learned all you neeeded to know about high sec aggression mechanics. If they threw you out, it will take more than a survey but I applaud your eforts to at least pretend like your trying, that you weren't at fault and that it was other players and game mechanics that led to your expulsion.Thats the true EVE spirit if I ever heard it.

Excellent suggestion. But I can't quite change the form now without messing up the results.

According to this personality test, I qualify as a, "Hyper-Carebear." Do I get a potato now?

Survey blah blah blah...I think we all know the real question here: What the everliving crap does one have to do to get kicked from E-UNI after only a month?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=210049&find=unread

That, if you want to know. But the leadership has changed now. I'm sure (or at least I hope) they are less bearish these days.

Oh i remember that thread. Glad to hear your still around

"I would encourage new players to get into theft, suicide ganking, war-decs and awoxing; to what extent do you agree with this statement? "

Don't like the wording. I love theft, suicide ganking, war-decs.
I think attacking corp mates in high-sec is pathetic by comparison.

Filled the survey out though +1

If you would have followed the uni's overview settings you would have learned all you neeeded to know about high sec aggression mechanics. If they threw you out, it will take more than a survey but I applaud your eforts to at least pretend like your trying, that you weren't at fault and that it was other players and game mechanics that led to your expulsion.Thats the true EVE spirit if I ever heard it.

I was following the whole issue when it went down. Amyclas was expelled for unapologetically posting his own opinions on the EVE Online forums, which was against the rules for E-Uni bros at that time. The rules have since been changed. Also, I've never heard him complain about having been expelled, or blame "other players and game mechanics".

It was Kelduum that led to my expulsion, nothing to do with overview settings and mechanics. But the expectations surrounding high-sec and the economy around high-sec aggression has always interested me.

Little confused by this. I mean, theft is basically joining a corp, then taking advantage of them to steal all their ****. AWOXing is just doing the same, but blowing them up instead. I can't really see why one is fine with you, but the other is "pathetic."

Have you ever been a victim of suicide ganking while you were afk?

Because theft requires them to trust you in a directorship role so requires an active decision on their part and work on your part.

AWOXing is taking advantage of a legacy mechanic that should have been removed from the game because it's a weird exception to the concord rules and was implemented specifically to allow testing of fits way back when, and the dueling mechanic has rendered it obsolete.

So yea, that's why I regard AWOXing as lowest of the low and a good corp theft, while scummy, is to be appreciated as a work of villany that took some effort.

This seems like a loaded question. You shouldn't assume we play afk.

That's why the question before it doesn't mention AFK, just whether or not you've been ganked. Seems to me he's trying to figure out how many respondants were ganked and how many of those were being un-smart.

2 general categories for this:

1 - Those who care to varying degrees and enjoy it consistently
2 - Those who say they don't care, but will voice disdain if is it too inconsistent.

In the end it does not matter what people say on the degree of their caring. The reality is that a good brand and consistent story is important on many levels, If not for the integrity of the Role Play, then for the confidence of all other users in the ability of the producers to manage different aspects of the project.

This seems like a loaded question. You shouldn't assume we play afk.

I don't love the wording of some of these. For example...

"Have you ever been the victim of a non-consensual war-dec? *"

I've been the recipient of such a war-dec, I've lost things in such wars (generally an offline POS while I was away from the game for a spell, **** happens), but "victim" implies an entirely different experience.

First, your survey is useless as it ignores a large proportion of the player base. Next time, if there is one, make the survey applicable to everyone (i.e. including NPC corp members).

Also, as Tippia mentioned, the suicide ganking question is unanswerable for many players (me included). I have never done it, but I can't say there are no circumstances in which I might consider it. There is no option for me to say that and I can't truthfully select any of the existing options, so I can't complete the survey.

Couldn't complete all the wardec questions either, so again unable to finish the survey.

Wasted my time going through to the end before discovering that. Not helpful.

I submitted mine, also I suggest that next time you word it to be a tad more... neutral.

How would you rephrase some of the questions?

I feel like comments in this thread are going to provide some good sources of targets for wardecs!

I don't love the wording of some of these. For example...

"Have you ever been the victim of a non-consensual war-dec? *"

I've been the recipient of such a war-dec, I've lost things in such wars (generally an offline POS while I was away from the game for a spell, **** happens), but "victim" implies an entirely different experience.

Submitted my survey. Surprisingly I came down on the side of risk in hisec. I know, weird. Did not expect that at all.

Because theft requires them to trust you in a directorship role so requires an active decision on their part and work on your part.

AWOXing is taking advantage of a legacy mechanic that should have been removed from the game because it's a weird exception to the concord rules and was implemented specifically to allow testing of fits way back when, and the dueling mechanic has rendered it obsolete.

So yea, that's why I regard AWOXing as lowest of the low and a good corp theft, while scummy, is to be appreciated as a work of villany that took some effort.

Excellent suggestion. But I can't quite change the form now without messing up the results.

How would you rephrase some of the questions?

How would you rephrase some of the questions?

Excellent suggestion. But I can't quite change the form now without messing up the results.

The results are already messed up because of selection bias.
Your answers are from people that read the forums so already a subset of eve and then further self selecting from people who read the title and felt the need to have their voice heard. The results of a survey with such a basic design flaw may be interesting but can not be used to provide meaningful statistics.

Is there really a way to reach out to those who don't want to interact with other people in the game?

(Besides ganking them and sending the survey with the termination notice, which is already being done.)

"In Corp agression needs to go to encourage more people to move out of NPC corps without worry of being instantly killed by some random person joining their corp."

You can't really argue with the logic here though.

You can't really argue with the logic here though.

Yes you can. See, watch me lol.

Not the squarest angle on the protractor are you?

If a player is worried about being blown up by corp mates they're less likely to join a player corp.

I don't see where you struggled to understand this very basic application of logic.

I think SD should revert back to this function, if you know you're going to die but can hold out for the full 2 minutes why not give you the ability to deny assets to the enemy? Modern tactics is hardly against this idea, deny as much as you can to the enemy.

Murdering people who run and hide from even the faintest sign of danger is not a simple task.

Is there really a way to reach out to those who don't want to interact with other people in the game?

(Besides ganking them and sending the survey with the termination notice, which is already being done.)

But carebears and new players aside, I believe MOST of the wealth in the game is being produced in high-sec. 5 Freighter kills I made in high-sec yesterday were worth more than two weeks of pvp kills and losses in fountain.

How about leaving it up to the players to discern which are the good corps, which are traps, which are war-dec pinatas, and which are just horrible places to be in?

I ddin't say change anything, I said his logic was sound.

Perhaps the issue would be how to better educate newbies as to the brutality of the game and what they can expect. What if the tutorial warned everyone explicitly that corpies can and will shoot you in high-sec?

The point is they do know they can be killed by corpies, so don't join a player corp.

I abused the humble bundle offer by rolling out a bunch of clean alts for spying and awoxing work experiencing high-sec content. I was immediately convoed by several recruiters trying to get me to join their mining corp and mission tax farms. Anyone can join corps these days it seems.

I abused the humble bundle offer by rolling out a bunch of clean alts for spying and awoxing work experiencing high-sec content. I was immediately convoed by several recruiters trying to get me to join their mining corp and mission tax farms. Anyone can join corps these days it seems.

I abused the humble bundle offer by rolling out a bunch of clean alts for spying and awoxing work experiencing high-sec content. I was immediately convoed by several recruiters trying to get me to join their mining corp and mission tax farms. Anyone can join corps these days it seems.

I can only really answer that with "so what?"

It completely disproves your point.

Not only are people willing to hire, but there are tons more who are willing to join. As an awoxer myself, I can tell you full well that the recruitment scene does NOT suffer due to the existence of awoxing.

It completely disproves your point.

Not only are people willing to hire, but there are tons more who are willing to join. As an awoxer myself, I can tell you full well that the recruitment scene does NOT suffer due to the existence of awoxing.

"highsec aggression" does not hurt corp recruitment. I know because I do it every week or so.

You have zero evidence that players being aware that corp mates can shoot them hurts recruitment. You don't even have anecdotal evidence, you are just pulling this assertion out of thin air.