I was wondering after reading about the Amarr Civil Wars, the Caldari and the Minmatar. Why is it that the Gal Mil never falls into them.

What I'm talking about is ful on Civil War. As in Khan and borg were ran off, or WINMATAR and losematar. Why doesn't that happen in the GalMil?

What I'm talking about is ful on Civil War. As in Khan and borg were ran off, or WINMATAR and losematar. Why doesn't that happen in the GalMil?

Because "Juan Rayo"

It is just that you Gals confuse intermilitia wardecs with group hugs.


Just in the last few months there was SoTF and Tipiaks deccing over loot.
Monkeys have had decs with Repeat Offenders and C.L.O.N.E
A few other unimportant groups here and there as well.


Here are the highlights of the GalMil group hugs so far this year.

'Remember it is YOUR fault for shooting them because YOU didn't follow our instruction.'
or
'While we are techically about to be at war against Repeat 0ffenders you are NOT to engage them, and they shouldn't engage you'
or my fav
'As your notifications will no doubt tell you, we declared war against a fellow Gal Mil alliance, and then retracted it a short time later'

The secret of GalMil love is all in these awesome parties we regularly organize in our home stations.

CalMil should do it to, in their own home sys... wait, no, nevermind.

LOL, good one. Your selective memory is quite amusing.

I try my best!

The more interesting thing is that both Khan and Winmatar fit right in when they joined Gallente Militia. What's up with that?

WTF? Is my CEO trying to incite unrest?

Guess we should wardec Repeat Offenders. I'm sure that will work at well.

Weeelllll I could always come back to Calmil and add absolutely nothing the militia!

Us aussies should be sticking together. You do a disservice to everyone who had your back by telling them to contribute to goons instead of fixing their problems.

I've been watching you do it for months.

vOv cant watch that vid on my phone. You play how you like I just don't understand your need to come in every gal/cal thread and spam it. I've been watching you do it for months.

Sounds like he's still hurt about the gallente forcing him out of fw.

We miss you too IbanezLaney!

Sounds like he's still hurt about the gallente forcing him out of fw.

Us aussies should be sticking together. You do a disservice to everyone who had your back by telling them to contribute to goons instead of fixing their problems.

I totally agree man someone has to bring this IbanezLaney to justice... will it be you?

Perunga + Crosi Weirdo + Guiynan on Teamspeak sounds like a civil war...

'Remember it is YOUR fault for shooting them because YOU didn't follow our instruction.'
or
'While we are techically about to be at war against Repeat 0ffenders you are NOT to engage them, and they shouldn't engage you'
or my fav
'As your notifications will no doubt tell you, we declared war against a fellow Gal Mil alliance, and then retracted it a short time later'

Us aussies should be sticking together. You do a disservice to everyone who had your back by telling them to contribute to goons instead of fixing their problems.

I totally agree man someone has to bring this IbanezLaney to justice... will it be you?

I also think that the tendency of failed nullbears to use FW to refill their coffers has a lot to do with it. None of them join GalMIl, so we don't have the same influx of arrogant money grubbing know it alls who want to come in and tell us how things are supposed to be done, all while expecting us to bow before their obvious superiority..

I was wondering after reading about the Amarr Civil Wars, the Caldari and the Minmatar. Why is it that the Gal Mil never falls into them.

One of the reason I like being part of Calmil (when I'm in FW that is ) is that I'd rather fight the better players.

If I flew in Galmil then I'd end up fighting all the day old alts and drama lamas and that just gets boring.

The more interesting thing is that both Khan and Winmatar fit right in when they joined Gallente Militia. What's up with that?

gallente needs more t1 fitted atron pilots so everything is fine !

i am more surprised that there are Civil wars at all....only motiviation for a civil war is stupid pride......

Lots of folks say that, and it'd work as long as you're in general militia and fly solo for the most part. At that point you're probably better off joining a corp like Stay Frosty - better camaraderie and still get to shoot us.

I still remember some corp called Silver Pigs that joined up, shot up someone in JUSTK or GMVA and then acted like a bunch of badasses about it.

Well I normally fly (die) solo so I'm ok with that.

gallente leadership are, for the most part, all cowards

without getting into too much detail: its a lot easier to take out daily fleets and gangbang some helpless proles than to split the giant gallente blob and get some decent fights going

every hero needs a villain

but more than that:

isnt every heros strength defined by the strength of their adversaries?

the gallente i knew were the gallente who made khan/borg and test their senoritas

...now its more like the gallente who just sit around and crank eachother off

The giant gallente blob that was fighting 8vs40-70 for a couple of hours last night. And still capping plexes. But if you want to keep spouting nonsense feel free.

crosi my son... if you want to keep "spouting nonsense" which only unintentionally validates my views by all means continue as it gives me a hearty chuckle

Is this for real or am I biting on troll bait? Whatever, I'll bite.

This may help you http://www.naturalnews.com/042481_bitter_taste_mouth_oral_hygeine.html

How does late eu and early us timezone having 8 active people in fleet validate your view that there is a gigantic gallente blob? There was a peak of 80 squids in local, surely that should motivate a form up? Its a rare occasion gallente get more thn 40 in a single fleet.

And sure, we took plexes, they took far more obviously.

it validates the view that galmil has no decent competition.

what i find ironic about this is that i commonly see eve players patting themselves on the back for being "smarter" than the average gamer who plays wow or cod

but then i get clowns like crosi and deacon, who instead of responding to the actual message only make cowardly blanket-statements like calling it "nonsense" or "troll bait"



do you have reading comprehension problems? it validates the view that galmil has no decent competition.

as for my gallente blob statement, ill repeat: gallente can form a huge blob if something decent is happening that is worth logging in for

for example: when tempest legion and death by design were reinforcing pocos in nenn, huge fleets were formed to fight them

what you said is akin to goons saying well, we only have like 50 man fleets most of the time. when everyone knows goons could get over 1000 scrubs together if they really wanted to

ive made two previous forum threads which discuss this issue in depth

theres very little weight in accusing me of making blanket statements, not being specific enough, or not providing any evidence for my claims.

ive made two previous forum threads which discuss this issue in depth

that is why in this thread i prefaced: "without getting into too much detail"


crosi, people may think im a troll, but i think youre the real troll here

your posts responding to me contain no substance, just lame sarcasm

I never had much of a problem with Gal blobs tbh.

But many of the US TZ groups need to bring 30 people to shoot one frigate and then cry 'BLOB' if you have a 2nd person come to help you.

The giant gallente blob that was fighting 8vs40-70 for a couple of hours last night. And still capping plexes. But if you want to keep spouting nonsense feel free.

Of all the things that didn't happen, this was one.

There's really no need to fictionalise things. You were successful enough without there being the need to make things up. At no point did you take a contested plex with 8 guys against 70.

I didnt say we did. I said we were fighting 8vs40. We did lose the plexes that were contested. However, when you guys were shooting posses with corms we did capture a significant number of plexes with just 8 people.

I did not at any point say we took plexes with 8 people while under fire from 40 people. Just that we did capture plexes while those odds were against us in terms of what was in local.

The giant gallente blob that was fighting 8vs40-70 for a couple of hours last night. And still capping plexes.

You guys chose to focus on goals other than defending plexes during times where you had vast numerical superiority. Those goals were badly misguided and only sped up the rate of your eviction from Kehjari. Along with your reluctance to separate your force to control multiple plexes at once lead to this.

I don't think going after the tower really had a big effect on the situation. Indeed, I'm pretty pleased that we managed to hold our own throughout Saturday, avoided previous slow reshipping problems and kept up with the meta much better than in the past.

1) DUST - On Saturday, pretty much the only system control gains your chaps made were from DUST, which we treated as irritating but no big deal as we were holding our own in space. By the time we called off the defensive op on Sunday night the DUST figure had grown to 20% and had proved decisive. Getting a grip on the DUST side of things is something CalMil definitely needs to sort out in the future.

2) AU tz - we are very weak in manpower terms from late US TZ through to a few hours after DT. We lost 10% system control during this period.

3) The last meta switch - while we did much better than previously in staying on top of the meta and switching into the right ships for the right job quickly throughout most of the weekend we didn't develop any sort of adequate counter to your tristan/navitas doctrine.

All in all I'm pretty pleased with how we performed this weekend. There are things we need to build on, for sure, but I'm confident we are moving in the right direction. In any case, I certainly had a blast flying against you guys over the last two days, especially after a quiet month in the war-zone, and look forward to the next big battle. I hope you had fun too.

Not sure what, if any, solution there is to this apart from drinking more Victoria Bitter and hanging corks from our hats.

Yup, you guys did a pretty decent job in copying our counters to TEST. Looking forward to what you can come up with to counter our Tristan / Navitas doctrine, especially in the novices.

offtopic here: what is the main idea of Tristan/Navitas doctrine and why it is so difficult to counter?

Main idea is to hypnotise the enemy FC with swarms of drones dancing in his tactical overlay.

Gallente have also secretly figured out how to force the drones into a formation that looks like two gigantic boobs, further incapacitating the enemies' concentration.

Not much to it. Two drone bunnies 7km apart....

offtopic here: what is the main idea of Tristan/Navitas doctrine and why it is so difficult to counter?

ah more pathetic smugness from the gallente

HELLO GALLENTE!! your competition is bad at this game!

then u dudes come here saying stuff like

"lol we win 8 vs 80 lol"

"lol when r u gonna counter our tristans? lol"

"lol u guys r 2 scared 2 ship 2 cruisers?? lol"

"every medium/large plex is free for us lolololololol!"

...lets keep it real kids

ah more pathetic smugness from the gallente

HELLO GALLENTE!! your competition is bad at this game!

then u dudes come here saying stuff like

"lol when r u gonna counter our tristans?"

"lol u guys r 2 scared 2 ship 2 cruisers??"

"every medium/large plex is free for us lol!"

...lets keep it real kids

What is with the aversion to flying cruiser sized doctrines for mediums and larges? Do y'all not have the guys with the skills? Or are FC's not willing to lead it?

We could pretty much guarantee ourselves mediums no matter the number disparity because y'all refused to ship into cruiser doctrines outside of 2 instances over the course of the 2 and a half days, and with larges entering the regular spawning cycle if y'all continue to secede the majority of mediums and larges I don't see how you can ever hope to hold a system in the face of an offensive.

offtopic here: what is the main idea of Tristan/Navitas doctrine and why it is so difficult to counter?

epikurus saying stuff like "omg it wasnt 8 vs 80 it was only 8 vs 40, see we arent that bad!!"

trust me im having a good time. but thats irrelevant!

lets just analyze whats going on in this thread

a bunch of gallente dudes circlejerking

epikurus saying stuff like "omg it wasnt 8 vs 80 it was only 8 vs 40, see we arent that bad!!"

ibanez and i making constructive comments here and there

the average caldari militiaman obviously doesnt care at all about getting stomped out every time they log on, or they would have switched sides like baron soontirfail

i dont know if its because they just have way better social lives than the average gallente, or because they dont even know that a forum exists

but the point is that there are no caldari here to provide logical counter-point to the huge gallente circlejerk

You only sperge on these forums because you are mad.

if i admit that im mad will you admit that this thread is a big gallente circlejerk?

if i admit that im mad will you admit that this thread is a big gallente circlejerk?

A large proportion of our fleet in these occasions tends to be general militia guys who don't have the skills. If they do have the skills they only have one cruiser to lose so aren't able to reship and keep fighting in the mediums. Within our main corps we also have a higher proportion of newer players than you guys causing a similar problem (this can and should have been ameliorated by prior planning and corps having cruisers ready to hand out though.

Yea this was a huge problem in Calmil when I was in it too. I'm just surprised you haven't been able to build up an experienced base of pilots. (not every one leaves like me)

Add in the issues with shield-tanking, and the Caldari weapon split between missiles and gunnery (and the skill point split) and you're asking for a lot of fail cruiser fleets.

Also, logistics-wise, I can see where this is a major problem especially with no hard 'home' systems and militia-wide staging areas.

Actually, the point was that whatever the numbers involved, since the two sides were doing completely different things and not actually facing each other with them one can hardly say the one group was 'fighting' the other in any sense in which numbers are meaningful. Any more than the one guy plexing in Nennamaila in an atron is 'fighting' the 20 guys docked up in Nenn station.

well. if you are in the same system and "one guy" attacks while "20 guys just sit docked" it can be said that "1 guys fights 20". It's only choice of those "20" to not fight actively

. If they do have the skills they only have one cruiser to lose so aren't able to reship and keep fighting in the mediums.

we can keep beating around the bush or we can accept that the real problem is that caldari pilots are, on average, not as good at eve as gallente pilots

if i just look at the main gallente dudes, i see a list of people who i would not want to mess with if i were out soloing

id see...
lexi, elijah, zoe, yuri, deen, 1st, xgal and id go to the next damn system lol

when i see a caldari dude im thinking, omg here comes a free killmail

when i see khan or (insert any caldari fc here) take out a fleet, i think omg here comes a ton of free killmails

the average gallente pilot is a battle hardened badass killing machine (by FW standards)

the average caldari pilot is like a kid who wears the shoes with the velcro on it because they dont know how to tie laces

That said:
Leadership should have many billions of isk of ships and the fittings ready to roll at all times in any system you believe is worth defending. (Not random stuff - thought out doctrines)

we can keep beating around the bush or we can accept that the real problem is that caldari pilots are, on average, not as good at eve as gallente pilots

if i just look at the main gallente dudes, i see a list of people who i would not want to mess with if i were out soloing

id see...
lexi, elijah, zoe, yuri, deen, 1st, xgal and id go to the next damn system lol

when i see a caldari dude im thinking, omg here comes a free killmail

when i see khan or (insert any caldari fc here) take out a fleet, i think omg here comes a ton of free killmails

the average gallente pilot is a battle hardened badass killing machine (by FW standards)

the average caldari pilot is like a kid who wears the shoes with the velcro on it because they dont know how to tie laces

10MN AB Breacher....not say what it counters but I want things to be fun in the next system fights. 3.6km/s OH with a 30 sig radius (assume boost) means you can get inside a novice and go to work....

To be fair, I think what wilgotna was trying to point out is that the Gallente Militia isn't adequately challenged, and should therefore have a civil war to make themselves even better.

Is that the whole gist of it wilgotna?

yes and no

gallente militia isnt adequately challenged

and should therefore have a civil war to MAKE THE WARZONE INTERESTING AGAIN

as of right now calmil is basically a fleshlight made of pixels

but... what if justk joined calmil... what if justk AND blackfox joined calmil... all of a sudden things are crazy, interesting, worth logging in for, worth joining FW for, worth getting excited for.

The caldari did a better job reshipping in Kehjari and contesting plexes than they have in any other offensive/defensive system push I have ever taken part in.

They aren't that far off from being able to stop us whenever we want to take a system (or force us to change doctrines again). Give em time and we'll see if this batch falls apart like previous groups or if they climb that next rung.

What if wilgotna joined calmil and stirred the masses and then made FW interesting without upsetting the status quo of Galmil? Interesting

but... what if justk joined calmil... what if justk AND blackfox joined calmil... all of a sudden things are crazy, interesting, worth logging in for, worth joining FW for, worth getting excited for.

yes and no

gallente militia isnt adequately challenged

and should therefore have a civil war to MAKE THE WARZONE INTERESTING AGAIN

as of right now calmil is basically a fleshlight made of pixels

but... what if justk joined calmil... what if justk AND blackfox joined calmil... all of a sudden things are crazy, interesting, worth logging in for, worth joining FW for, worth getting excited for.

What if wilgotna joined calmil and stirred the masses and then made FW interesting without upsetting the status quo of Galmil? Interesting

We (all FW PvPers) make the warzone interesting every day by logging in and fighting. Doesn't matter if they are WTs, Pirates, or Neutrals. We don't discriminate. What have you done? Nothing, from looking at your killboard.

Someone is butthurt. Why? Who knows, who cares? Most likely... no one.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

whhAAAA

i like to put ketchup on my hotpockets

what? crosi lets keep this on topic please

A smart man once told me faction warfare is all about being able to reship constantly, throwing yourself into battle over and over again until your enemy is out of ships..

PERUNGA? :)

Indeed, Kehjari was more of a precursor of things to come and a learning experience for members of GHIOT then anything else.
GF's were had by all.

The only thing that irked me about it was that PERUNGA wasn't primaried nearly enough for my tastes. All the rest of you gals are fine for the most part, however much we shoot each other aside. But that guy seems like the Khan Farshatok of today that nobody wants today. or tommorow. Or wanted yesterday. Sad I didn't get to see him asplode more.

But GF's were had all over the place for three days. It was fun. And we'll probably be doing it again soon.

PERUNGA? :)

Guess u dont know perunga his drake fleets used to kick cals ass back in the day then took a 3 year break and came right back to kicking cals asses think hes been the one behind the last 4-5 big systems uv lost,,,,

the boy does good will run a general mil fleet and get them working like when the bigger corps come together hes nothing like khan,

MOA MAN

Hes some levels below x-gal and the others i mentioned - just gf's in local from them

Hes some levels below x-gal and the others i mentioned - just gf's in local from them

Caldari Militia -> small gap <- Gallente Militia -> massive leap <- Snuffbox

If Crosi did not have a boosting alt i doubt many would even accept him into fleet...

Caldari Militia -> small gap <- Gallente Militia -> massive leap <- Snuffbox

No matter how good some Gallente FC's and pilot's think we are, we are still pretty low on the lowsec foodchain...

Caldari Militia -> small gap <- Gallente Militia -> massive leap <- Snuffbox

No matter how good some Gallente FC's and pilot's think we are, we are still pretty low on the lowsec foodchain...

there is evidence to support that galmil is generally more skilled than calmil

galmils competition is just pathetically bad

HELLO GALLENTE!! your competition is bad at this game!

we can keep beating around the bush or we can accept that the real problem is that caldari pilots are, on average, not as good at eve as gallente pilots
when i see a caldari dude im thinking, omg here comes a free killmail
when i see khan or (insert any caldari fc here) take out a fleet, i think omg here comes a ton of free killmails
the average gallente pilot is a battle hardened badass killing machine (by FW standards)
the average caldari pilot is like a kid who wears the shoes with the velcro on it because they dont know how to tie laces

Contradicting ourselves much?

I did, yourself and others have state that Gal Mil is generally better the Cal Mil and you double back and say we are not. Also, telling a large portion of Gal Mil to start a civil war or join the other side just to make things better means that one side is too strong and should be split. You're just arguing yourself into circles.

So you're saying the only reason Gal Mil is good is because we got more nerds?

snuffbox does blobs with shiny ships and dreads where skill is meaningless

no, this was already covered by Vesk on page 7.

galmil and snuffbox engage in different types of fighting

galmil does plex fighting and small gang where skill actually matters, kinda

snuffbox does blobs with shiny ships and dreads where skill is meaningless

if you have any more questions please mail me ingame

No, it was most definitely not Perunga.


It was XG.

If Crosi did not have a boosting alt i doubt many would even accept him into fleet...

nope

i remember being on comms when than said this

I was just repeating XG.

These threads tend to go the same way (like this one has): one side compares their best to the other sides worst... A corp/alliance centric Gallente fleet rolling out in doctrine ships vs a kitchen sink fleet pulled together with the dregs of militia pubbies. Of course galmil's best and brightest are way better than our worst and dimmest, but that's not really fair to those in calmil who actually step up. Nor do these types of comparisons don't capture what's actually going on in the warzone. For example, Templis rolls out in doctrine cruiser fleets with decent regularity and have great fights against you guys, but these aren't being taken into account with the galmil circlejerk.

Now, calmil has a much crappier baseline than galmil because we attract a lot more farmer types. But I'm sure all of us can distinguish between pubbies and actual fighting groups, and I really wish that the focus would be on the latter instead of rolling us all into one. You don't really have to make this distinction with galmil because it's a horrible farming militia; Galmil has a much stronger baseline than us in Calmil largely because state pro is just awful. Those who enter state pro to farm with thumbs up their asses shouldn't be taken as a reflection of those who actually learn to roll against the big dogs. Hell, I'm not even denying that galmil's fighting force is better than ours; you guys are pretty damn good at what you do and are probably better in general. I just don't feel that those of us who actually try are being well represented. We're not all farmers you know... Believe it or not, Calmil hates Calmil farmers as much as you guys do.

if i think of galmil i can easily name 10 good soloists, and id probably be forgetting a lot of them

if i think of calmil i can name 4 good soloists off the top of my head: diana and ibanez, and ibanez freaking quit the militia, qjuu defected and joined gallente (lol), greg01 quit the game as far as i know - this leaves only ONE remaining

There's 20 good soloists in QCATS alone.

Fairly certain that I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen Diana soloing without her links.

That's not solo, wil.

yes it is

These threads tend to go the same way (like this one has): one side compares their best to the other sides worst... A corp/alliance centric Gallente fleet rolling out in doctrine ships vs a kitchen sink fleet pulled together with the dregs of militia pubbies. Of course galmil's best and brightest are way better than our worst and dimmest, but that's not really fair to those in calmil who actually step up. Nor do these types of comparisons don't capture what's actually going on in the warzone. For example, Templis rolls out in doctrine cruiser fleets with decent regularity and have great fights against you guys, but these aren't being taken into account with the galmil circlejerk.

Now, calmil has a much crappier baseline than galmil because we attract a lot more farmer types. But I'm sure all of us can distinguish between pubbies and actual fighting groups, and I really wish that the focus would be on the latter instead of rolling us all into one. You don't really have to make this distinction with galmil because it's a horrible farming militia; Galmil has a much stronger baseline than us in Calmil largely because state pro is just awful. Those who enter state pro to farm with thumbs up their asses shouldn't be taken as a reflection of those who actually learn to roll against the big dogs. Hell, I'm not even denying that galmil's fighting force is better than ours; you guys are pretty damn good at what you do and are probably better in general. I just don't feel that those of us who actually try are being well represented. We're not all farmers you know... Believe it or not, Calmil hates Calmil farmers as much as you guys do.

That's like saying 2 = 1. The fact of the matter is that there are two ships involved in the engagement, not one - the very definition of solo. People who fly with links and call it solo are just pussies who don't have the balls to fight on a level playing field. It's fine, hell it's EVE, go ahead. But don't you ******* come to me and call it solo.

/N

thats cool if you dont consider it solo, but i do

take that dude who solod ratting carriers with his nyx... he had like 4 cyno/scout alts + the nyx

does this mean he 5v1 gangbanged the ratter?

did the ratter send him a msg like "wat r u 2 scured 2 fite me solo pu55y?1"

So solo pvp isn't 1 ship vs. 1 ship it's 1 player vs. 1 player? Does that mean if I use something like ISBoxer to run a "solo" frigate fleet and I kill another ship, does that makes it a solo kill?

Or is it what appears on the killmail? If one day OGB appear on killmails if you're in fleet with them does that mean it's no longer a solo kill, but all the kill priors with OGB were true solo pvp?

galmil needs a civil war bad for reasons stated in previous posts mmk

Fyi,

Drunk 'n' Disorderly will be switching sides to CAL Mil as of the 7th of june (pending fixing SPDR's standing issues) We hope this will help stimulate Gal/Cal warzone a little with cal gaining some new blood fc's (Guiynen and Larkness and Lockout)

Thanks for all the funzies

Fyi,

Drunk 'n' Disorderly will be switching sides to CAL Mil as of the 7th of june (pending fixing SPDR's standing issues) We hope this will help stimulate Gal/Cal warzone a little with cal gaining some new blood fc's (Guiynen and Larkness and Lockout)

Thanks for all the funzies

thats cool if you dont consider it solo, but i do

take that dude who solod ratting carriers with his nyx... he had like 4 cyno/scout alts + the nyx

does this mean he 5v1 gangbanged the ratter?

did the ratter send him a msg like "wat r u 2 scured 2 fite me solo pu55y?1"

I smell trolls... that being said, if this statement is true it would cause some very interesting waves in the Gallente/Caldari conflict. Would I enjoy brawling with a GUIYNAN fleet? Hell yeah, it would be fun. Will this happen? I highly HIGHLY doubt it.

nobody is comparing the best of galmil to the worst of calmil

i am comparing the average galmil pilot to the average calmil pilot (this does not even factor in farmers)

furthermore...

if i think of calmil i can name 4 good soloists off the top of my head: diana and ibanez, and ibanez freaking quit the militia, qjuu defected and joined gallente (lol), greg01 quit the game as far as i know - this leaves only ONE remaining

if i think of galmil i can easily name 10 good soloists, and id probably be forgetting a lot of them

sure i gotta give props to templis to bringing out doctrine fleets, but do you win often if ever? your alliance's efficiency speaks for itself

Will wil will the Caldari to greatness, or will wil turn into the next egomaniacal Caldari FC? Time will tell.

I'm not saying we're paying SovietGuard like we did "THE DON" Bolsterbomb to sew dissent throughout the Caldari ranks, but I'm not saying we're not either.

Will wil will the Caldari to greatness, or will wil turn into the next egomaniacal Caldari FC? Time will tell.

I'm not saying we're paying SovietGuard like we did Bolsterbomb to sew dissent throughout the Caldari ranks, but I'm not saying we're not either.

I'm also going to point the probable bias lurking here: being in galmil, of course you know more soloists in galmil. I know more soloists in calmil because I know the pilots in calmil a lot better.

this is just dumb
i dont get to know the soloists in the area by being in a certain militia
i learn by flying around and dying
i can name way more pirate soloists than i can calmil soloists, does this mean im in the pirate militia?

LOL you're actually coming at me like i didnt understand what you said? aaaaaaahahahaha

its obviously not a complicated argument

i said its a BAD/DUMB argument - and i showed cause for that

as if saying "durr you're biased" requires explanation... god...

These threads tend to go the same way (like this one has): one side compares their best to the other sides worst... A corp/alliance centric Gallente fleet rolling out in doctrine ships vs a kitchen sink fleet pulled together with the dregs of militia pubbies

Restating unfounded generalizations is stupid. You've presented no arguments other than repeating yourself. Sorry that I tried to take you seriously; didn't realize that you just wanted to stamp your feet and have a circle jerk.

Never said that you couldn't make the claims, just that your experience isn't sufficient to justify the claims. You can say whatever you want, doesn't make it true.

the proof you want is on the killboards.

https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98177721/solo/

However, I'm not sure what the imbalance re: solo PvP culture is supposed to demonstrate as soloing has a pretty minimal impact on the warzone and prevalence of solo players does not translate into greater corp-wide combat effectiveness (as comparing the fairly similar efficiencies of all 8 of those corps shows).

Stuff

Yeah, sure, but c'mon, be honest: we're also awesome.

???? Am I missing something ????

I concede

calmil in of itself is pretty much a lost cause and cannot solve this problem

guys we arent here to decide which militia is better...

galmil is - it is an established fact

we are here to figure out a solution - to which i propose that either galmil has a nice fat civil war OR one or more large galmil corps defect to caldari

calmil in of itself is pretty much a lost cause and cannot solve this problem

I also think that the tendency of failed nullbears to use FW to refill their coffers has a lot to do with it. None of them join GalMIl, so we don't have the same influx of arrogant money grubbing know it alls who want to come in and tell us how things are supposed to be done, all while expecting us to bow before their obvious superiority.

The more interesting thing is that both Khan and Winmatar fit right in when they joined Gallente Militia. What's up with that?

One the other side of the coin I feel as if the Caldari are looking for a leader to lead them to victory, but become scared of it when it's there in reach and implode.

On the question of looking for a leader, this is, frankly, the last thing we need. Single figureheads are more often polarising than unifying and we will be far better off going down the pluralistic route as this is not only the best way to get numerous organisations working together in the absence of the kind of nullsec framework that pushes towards space dictatorships but will also be more enduring and not liable to collapse in the event of the one true god having RL issues or burning out or moving on.

The discussions in this thread were the basis for my piece this week btw, check it out.

Crossing Zebras: Lowlife - Militia Mentality

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