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Lathera Hen
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Posted - 2006.06.02 01:04:00 -
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ok i know some of ye want to shoot me now just for metioning it. .... BUT
i for one that actualy like the damn thing! any ways ...
dose any one know what its gona be .... like an Ewar ship or a misile platform or what not ...any idea?
and please dont flame i just want info on it or jsut your thoghts
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Talori'i
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Posted - 2006.06.02 01:29:00 -
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I think the missle battleship for Gallente is fulfilled by the Megathron, as much as I hate it though. So I think the Gallente Tier3 BS is going to be an EW vessel. Which in one way saddens me, but my guess is the drone bay will be bigger then the Mega's but much smaller then the Dom's. The second bonus could go either with large turrets or a drone bonus, my guess is large turret bonus with 8 turret hardpoints.
Slotwise who knows, I want to see an 8 hi - 6 mid - 8 low. But I don't think I will get my wish there.
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jbob2000
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Posted - 2006.06.02 01:46:00 -
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I'd like the new one to be a blaster one.
8 turrets, 3 mids, 7 lows, small drone bay, big armor, low shields, agile, solid capacitor.
Bonuses would be 15% reduction to MWD cap penalty, 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2006.06.02 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: jbob2000 I'd like the new one to be a blaster one.
8 turrets, 3 mids, 7 lows, small drone bay, big armor, low shields, agile, solid capacitor.
Bonuses would be 15% reduction to MWD cap penalty, 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level.
Blasters need the dmg and tracking bonus, the dmg one at least. And I hate that cap penalty reduction bonus which is not really a bonus compared to what other ships have, sadly MWD is a mandatory module on blaster boats.
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miro hirisko
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Posted - 2006.06.02 02:09:00 -
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thought the mega was supposed to be the balster boat?
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.06.02 02:10:00 -
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MWD and falloff with 8 turrets is my bet,
The extra range and speed negates the tracking issue without making the ship a megathron clone.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.06.02 03:21:00 -
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Any pure gunship is a pointless adition to gallente battleships, as the Megathron is pretty much the model gunship already IMO. It can go short range, it can go long range, I'd really see something that can do a little more then just shoot.
Preferably with a drone bonus, there are way too many gun based battleships in this game already, and just one that uses drones...
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Amerame
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Posted - 2006.06.02 03:36:00 -
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I was wondering that too, how would you design a blasterboat better than the megathron with blaster but inferior to the megathron with rails ? Do we want better sniping BS than mega / tempest / apoc ? Will the caldari railboat be better than tempest / mega / apoc at long range insta damage ? To me it seems a real nightmare to balance tier 3 BS.
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Ceiri
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Posted - 2006.06.02 04:40:00 -
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I'm hoping it's an electronic warfare ship.
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Dearwin
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Posted - 2006.06.02 04:47:00 -
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I really hope its an EW based platform, it would be an appropriate chain from the Celest, and I think would do a good job of rounding out the higher end Gallente fleet.
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franny
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Posted - 2006.06.02 05:07:00 -
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i'm hoping for an ewar boat +% to optimal, %damped(lock range and scan res), and falloff of damps decent sized dronebay(not domi sized, but bigish)
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Jerick Ludhowe
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Posted - 2006.06.02 06:33:00 -
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Would not mind a Blasterboat with a dampening and damage bonuss. Maybee a 8-6-6 with enough grid to fit a rack of nuetrons.
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Alex Harumichi
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Posted - 2006.06.02 08:14:00 -
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I'm also hoping for an EW platform. A battleship-size Celestis would finally make me train up that Gallente BS lvl 5. If it has some missile capability, so much the better. We already have the pure gunship angle covered with the Mega, and the drone stuff with the Dom.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.06.02 08:18:00 -
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its 8-5-7 from all ive seen ----------------
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.06.02 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: jbob2000 I'd like the new one to be a blaster one.
8 turrets, 3 mids, 7 lows, small drone bay, big armor, low shields, agile, solid capacitor.
Bonuses would be 15% reduction to MWD cap penalty, 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level.
3mids for a blasterthron? What are you gonna drop, mwd, tackling gear or cap injector?
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Lathera Hen
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Posted - 2006.06.02 10:51:00 -
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wow ... thanks for the reply's... id like to see mor ideas if you have them. :)
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Valea Silpha
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Posted - 2006.06.02 10:55:00 -
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A big celestis would be nice. Damps are under-rated.
Im hoping against a dedicated blaster boat, simply becuase the thron does fairly well at that already. Also if it has 8 turrets, you may as well put your thron in the garage because you just found a new fleet BS.
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Morreia
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Posted - 2006.06.02 11:04:00 -
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I'd love to see it be quite agile. I've never been that much into EW mainly because the ships that use it do shocking damage but if it can keep up damage wise with the other battleship, and with 8 turrets I'd be surprised if it couldnt, then I suppose it may be nice to fly.
Just the look of it makes it seem to me like it should be quite agile. It has absolutly huge thrusters and looks quite streamlined.
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Kaell Meynn
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Posted - 2006.06.02 11:22:00 -
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It should be an ewar ship that can compete with a scorp. For this it needs.
At LEAST 7 mids, preferably 8.
A RANGE bonus to EW so it can operate at fleet ranges (falloff would be the one for damps, not optimal, their optimal sucks).
That's all it needs, the rest is gravy. I'd go with...
Highs - 6 Mids - 8 Lows - 6
Turret - 5 Missile - 4
Bonus1 - 20% to Falloff range of Remote Sensor Dampeners per level Bonus2 - 10% to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range per level
4000 shield 6000 armor 8000 struct
5000 cap 800s recharge
CPU - 1,100 Powergrid - 20,000
Velocity - 90 m/s Dronebay - 200 m3
Lockrange - 130km Magnetometric Sensor Strength - 45 Sigradius - 600 Scanres - 80mm
And make it turn like a slug.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.06.02 11:25:00 -
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well, its got 5 mids, so... ----------------
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Waragha
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Posted - 2006.06.02 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: jbob2000 I'd like the new one to be a blaster one.
8 turrets, 3 mids, 7 lows, small drone bay, big armor, low shields, agile, solid capacitor.
Bonuses would be 15% reduction to MWD cap penalty, 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level.
wtf
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Breed Love
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Posted - 2006.06.02 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Breed Love on 02/06/2006 11:43:29 omg people stfu about ew ships already, what if sissy-pee listens to that crap?
We need a proper bs-sized blasterboat, mega sux monkey balls at that. And it has to have some form of damage bonus, though to make it worse with rails than the megathron, it could get a turret rof bonus instead. This way it would have a nice dps, closer to what the dps of a real blasterboat should be like. And perhaps a MWD bonus, but I'd rather see it as a built in bonus, and have a tracking bonus or something like that instead.
This way it would atleast perform well in its very niche role. ------ Originally by: Gazon In any case, the whole affair had one lasting effect: Awarding Stormriders the label of ridiculous drug addicts with a tendency towards utterly foolish actions.
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Kaell Meynn
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Posted - 2006.06.02 11:44:00 -
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How about we get an EW BS since we lack one, and we fix the megathron?
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Breed Love
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Posted - 2006.06.02 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kaell Meynn How about we get an EW BS since we lack one, and we fix the megathron?
The best option would be to make domi the ew bs, just switch the large hybrid bonus for a damper bonus.. And megathron can't really be fixed without a complete re-design. ------ Originally by: Gazon In any case, the whole affair had one lasting effect: Awarding Stormriders the label of ridiculous drug addicts with a tendency towards utterly foolish actions.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.06.02 12:47:00 -
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If the Dominix got a damper bonus it should also have at least one more medslot IMO. Maybe trade for a highslot since without the gun bonus 4 NOS is going to be pretty much standart.
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VeNT
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Posted - 2006.06.02 12:53:00 -
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err, why would gallente get a EW ship? thought they specilised in drones rather than EW?
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Darpz
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Posted - 2006.06.02 13:35:00 -
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Here is how it should be and no it won't be overpowerd
8H 5M 7L
Bonus 10% Hybrid Damage (Double Bonus)
then the pilot can figure out how to get past the shortcommings of the ship to get into range and to be able to track the ship to unleash that pwnage.
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Morreia
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Posted - 2006.06.02 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Morreia on 02/06/2006 13:37:31 Minny are generally associated with hit and run but they have a kick ass fleet ship.
What the previous poster said sounds like a good ship.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.02 13:43:00 -
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I saw Tux's screen that tier 3 Gallentean BS is going to be a gate camping ship. Heavy bonuses to sentry drones.
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire EvE is ecstatically malevolent.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.06.02 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Breed Love Edited by: Breed Love on 02/06/2006 11:43:29 omg people stfu about ew ships already, what if sissy-pee listens to that crap?
We need a proper bs-sized blasterboat, mega sux monkey balls at that. And it has to have some form of damage bonus, though to make it worse with rails than the megathron, it could get a turret rof bonus instead. This way it would have a nice dps, closer to what the dps of a real blasterboat should be like. And perhaps a MWD bonus, but I'd rather see it as a built in bonus, and have a tracking bonus or something like that instead.
This way it would atleast perform well in its very niche role.
Sounds quite nice indeed. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
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