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SurVie	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:01:00 - [1] Edited by: SurVie on 02/06/2006 20:04:11 yarrrrr GL to BB =============================================
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:01:00 - [2] \o/ Damn you loxy BDCI Recruitment Officer
danneh	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:01:00 - [3] weee Contraband Inc
LoxyRider	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:01:00 - [4] Edited by: LoxyRider on 02/06/2006 20:02:45 Yarr People below me = pwnd. Content so this doesnt get deleted = Yarr should be good, yeah, hoopla, ON OUR WAY BIG BLUE.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:01:00 - [5] MC says "Just Say No!" Quote: 2006.06.02 20:00 Mercenary Coalition has declared war on The Big Blue. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. Everyone needs to act surprised! No one was expecting this, right? The greater EVE Community may now consider BWF-ZZ and the surrounding systems a war zone. The Big Blue may now consider the whole of EVE a war zone. Okay, game on. We are coming. - History of the MC movie!
Mystiel Raleigh	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:02:00 - [6] F5 F5 F5
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:02:00 - [7] gl and hf everyone.
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:03:00 - [8] I just wished the first page wouldn't be filled with MC all the time New sig coming soonÖ In the next (content) patch Information Warfare will be nerfed. How sad, it wasn't even useful to begin with.
K Shara	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:04:00 - [9] YARRRRR <><><><><><><><><> Contraband <><><><><><><><><>
Nina Mires	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:05:00 - [10] look Ma i'm on TV.. No wait this isn't tv. Doh!! GL and have fun all Nina ---------

Spartan239	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:05:00 - [11] Edited by: Spartan239 on 02/06/2006 20:05:00 doubble post :( Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
Spartan239	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:05:00 - [12] Edited by: Spartan239 on 02/06/2006 20:05:13 Originally by: Ithildin I just wished the first page wouldn't be filled with MC all the time You forum *** to much? p.s loxy's sigs give me nightmares Originally by:** Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
Trooper B99	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:08:00 - [13] I would like to wish both sides the best of luck, fun and oppertunity in this fight. However I won't. I curse you ALL equally because I only have a 56k modem due to the evil biotch that is the god BTBroadband putting back line activation twice now. CURSE YOU ALL. But have fun. IN HELL. But still fun. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Aibwa	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:08:00 - [14] Yay! GL HF all involved
Snake Charmer	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:08:00 - [15] hOOt!
Daald	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:09:00 - [16] Did the spy move your schedule ahead? ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy
Grimster	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:09:00 - [17] I think you should leave the poor BB guys alone.. Hang on what char is this? We blog at The Jammy Blog
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:09:00 - [18] first (page)! Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
Grimster	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Daald Did the spy move your schedule ahead? Re-read the spy posts, no changes afaik We blog at The Jammy Blog
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:11:00 - [20] Pretty handy that TBB will lock themselves down for you. Click Above

Voltron	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:11:00 - [21] ??? When did CONIN join MC? permanent thing? Limited time offer like BAPWN? Volt
Daald	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:13:00 - [22] Quote: Re-read the spy posts, no changes afaik Only read that bit in the locked post. It made it seem that it would happen this weekend. Anyway, GL to all involved which basically adds up to nothing. Maybe I should wish you alternating luck :) ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy
Trooper B99	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:13:00 - [23] Originally by: Eximius Josari Pretty handy that TBB will lock themselves down for you. WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!! >_< Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:14:00 - [24] Originally by: Trooper B99 Originally by: Eximius Josari Pretty handy that TBB will lock themselves down for you. WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!! >_< Hurry Stan, get in the car! Click Above
Vincent Gaines	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:15:00 - [25] this is completely unexpected j/k GL&HF
Trooper B99	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:17:00 - [26] Originally by: Eximius Josari Originally by: Trooper B99 Originally by: Eximius Josari Pretty handy that TBB will lock themselves down for you. WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!! >_< Hurry Stan, get in the car! WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!!!! /o\ /me CURSES TBB/MC some more just because :/ Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Crzycnck2	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:22:00 - [27] Get used to seeing this in BWF local "LOCKDOWN!!!" TBB does that when a shuttle enters local. I'm a trained bomb disposal expert... if you see me running, try to keep up!
Constantine Arcanum	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:22:00 - [28] Edited by: Constantine Arcanum on 02/06/2006 20:22:22 Originally by: Trooper B99 Originally by: Eximius Josari Pretty handy that TBB will lock themselves down for you. WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!! >_< GET IN THE CAR, WE HAVE TO EVACUATE! w00t, 1st on 2nd page \o/ -----------------------------------------------
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:24:00 - [29] Sounds fun --------
Tennotsukai	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:24:00 - [30] Hiya mum, Look at me... I'm in a MC post \o/ \o/ Have fun everyone, as i will

Kayoss	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:24:00 - [31] Good luck guys, hope you all have fun :)
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:25:00 - [32] Their intel channel picked up.. Normally it's "Chandoi, BWF, Incursus, KOS, All miners & npc'ers best dock" xD <3 Chandoi, whoever he is. [Art of War][- V -]
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:27:00 - [33] This was pretty much a given once the Trust outpost was overrun, only it taking this long was a surprise. Remind me about The Maze. I'm Danton Marcellus and I approve of this message.
Prohibited	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:32:00 - [34] Originally by: Red Six Not a fan of the banner, you've had better. Have had much better. This banner looks like a childs work, lol. Then again, deccing the Big Blue is childs play as well. Good show ladies!
Bluehaze joe	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:36:00 - [35] hmm There where a post about this yesterday. Where did that go? Did the devs delete it?
Prohibited	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:36:00 - [36] Originally by: Vincent Gaines yeah, something regarding the spy might have been more clever Yeah but Seleene had the banner and script all planned for days.
Kirin	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:37:00 - [37] I touched Seleene and Seleene touched me back. It was a most exhilerating experience for the both of us... Remember the toes you step on today are still connected to the arse you may have to kiss tomorrow.
Eironia	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:45:00 - [38] just curious does your contract involve killing neutrals in ips or is it entirely an empire war??
Netto	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:45:00 - [39] Wow, t2 competition is getting brutal . Netto Celestial Fleet - We care.
Heraklitus Nomidzon	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:52:00 - [40] Have fun, fellas. Give em hell.

Shaelin Corpius	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:52:00 - [41] Im watching that RMR flash thing killer8 did for Big Blue intel. Ok, I have the perfect plan guys.
Recluse Viramor	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:54:00 - [42] Originally by: Kirin I touched Seleene and Seleene touched me back. It was a most exhilerating experience for the both of us...
Agent2 Holtze	Posted - 2006.06.02 20:58:00 - [43] Good luck to both of you! Posting and you!
Heinky	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:02:00 - [44] Another group trying to take the station in bwf from my friends The big blue. Like everyone else Big blue will crush them.
slip66	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:11:00 - [45] This is gonna be a good one me thinks. GL to both sides. cant wait to see the vid. have fun with your cap ships. Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Shaelin Corpius	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:14:00 - [46] Mc Big red pills also come in 200mg, 400mg, and 1000mg (for those not so fresh days).
BlackHawk177	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:23:00 - [47] Can I come watch? I promise I won't shoot anyone... very often. My Sigs to Cool to be Hijacked...
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:26:00 - [48] Can we get an update from MC leadership about their plans @ bwf. Are you planning to conquer this area. Or you are hired just to kill as much BB as possible ? ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:30:00 - [49] Originally by: Eironia just curious does your contract involve killing neutrals in ips or is it entirely an empire war?? We will be shooting neutrals Originally by: Evil Thug Can we get an update from MC leadership about their plans @ bwf. Are you planning to conquer this area. Or you are hired just to kill as much BB as possible ? The client gets what the client wants... ( i know i didnt answer it ) BDCI Recruitment Officer
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:30:00 - [50] Originally by: Ithildin I just wished the first page wouldn't be filled with MC all the time I feel your pain.

Angelhunter	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:36:00 - [51] Yay, my very first MC post! Now what are we supposed to do again?? ---------------
Swethren	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:37:00 - [52] Poor BB
Mexican	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:48:00 - [53] Good luck to all.
NAFnist	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:50:00 - [54] Originally by: Heinky Another group trying to take the station in bwf from my friends The big blue. Like everyone else Big blue will crush them. Big Blue rocks, gl MC this will not be a walk in the park, but im sure you'll have huge fun.
NSA DAKILLA	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:53:00 - [55]
Trinity Faetal	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:03:00 - [56] booo!! another wannabe merc corp going after industrailist!! shame on you shame!@# have fun
Naughtulus	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:03:00 - [57] Well I didn't expect the first test of the BWF pos defense grid to come from the MC. I guess in a way it's fitting, however. Two predictions: 1. Whoever wins, it will be a long, drawn out bloodbath (2 weeks min). 2. If MC wins, it will cost more than putting up a band new outpost somewhere else. GL. HF. Let the grind begin. Naughtulus PS: It's gonna make an epic movie.
nickycakes	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:09:00 - [58] whoever needed to hire mercs for this fails at eve Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Goldar	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:10:00 - [59] Originally by: nickycakes whoever needed to hire mercs for this fails at eve My guess is that this is Fragm's way of saying he couldn't get the job done
Chronus26	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:12:00 - [60] Originally by: Trinity Faetal booo!! another wannabe merc corp going after industrailist!! shame on you shame!@# have fun If the MC are wannabes, I dont wanna know who the real merc corps are Sounds like fun though. Makes me wanna go out and find a good war. ----- T0ys R Us Recruitment

Prohibited	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:43:00 - [61] Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: Eironia just curious does your contract involve killing neutrals in ips or is it entirely an empire war?? We will be shooting neutrals Originally by: Evil Thug Can we get an update from MC leadership about their plans @ bwf. Are you planning to conquer this area. Or you are hired just to kill as much BB as possible ? The client gets what the client wants... ( i know i didnt answer it ) You didn't answer anything so why post? Go kill some industrials and noobs. Will this be your typical empire war or will you actually be doing major ops in 0.0?
Bedrock	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:44:00 - [62] Originally by: Crzycnck2 Get used to seeing this in BWF local "LOCKDOWN!!!" TBB does that when a shuttle enters local. reminds me of that FLASH movie of everyone screaming and you see them buzzing to dock or escape to the next system. freakin' hilarious! ------------------ Frustrated:
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:47:00 - [63] Originally by: Prohibited Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: Eironia just curious does your contract involve killing neutrals in ips or is it entirely an empire war?? We will be shooting neutrals Originally by: Evil Thug Can we get an update from MC leadership about their plans @ bwf. Are you planning to conquer this area. Or you are hired just to kill as much BB as possible ? The client gets what the client wants... ( i know i didnt answer it ) You didn't answer anything so why post? Go kill some industrials and noobs. Will this be your typical empire war or will you actually be doing major ops in 0.0? Why do you ask questions that we know we will not answer? BDCI Recruitment Officer
Prohibited	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:47:00 - [64] Originally by: Crzycnck2 Get used to seeing this in BWF local "LOCKDOWN!!!" TBB does that when a shuttle enters local. Well obviously thats standard procedure. If that happens then MC will not have much of any 0.0 targets right? Unless of course they really wanna be like BoB and this fake contract is really to try and take an Outpost -- no wait MC couldn't handle that without help. They are just attention *****s.
Prohibited	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:48:00 - [65] Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: Prohibited Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: Eironia just curious does your contract involve killing neutrals in ips or is it entirely an empire war?? We will be shooting neutrals Originally by: Evil Thug Can we get an update from MC leadership about their plans @ bwf. Are you planning to conquer this area. Or you are hired just to kill as much BB as possible ? The client gets what the client wants... ( i know i didnt answer it ) You didn't answer anything so why post? Go kill some industrials and noobs. Will this be your typical empire war or will you actually be doing major ops in 0.0? Why do you ask questions that we know we will not answer? I didn't know it was such a secret whether you will be focusing more of your efforts in 0.0 or empire. I guess we will all see for ourselves soon then.
Bala Dwinn	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:51:00 - [66] I wish fun fights for all parties involved. On another note, does BB even have a navy of which to speak? Not meant as an insult, just curious.
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:00:00 - [67] Edited by: ParMizaN on 02/06/2006 23:00:38 My post doesnt make sense.. replace we with you and that will make more sense how ironic; spelling edit :\| Its too late :< BDCI Recruitment Officer
Cowboy	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:06:00 - [68] Originally by: Prohibited Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: Prohibited Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: Eironia just curious does your contract involve killing neutrals in ips or is it entirely an empire war?? We will be shooting neutrals Originally by: Evil Thug Can we get an update from MC leadership about their plans @ bwf. Are you planning to conquer this area. Or you are hired just to kill as much BB as possible ? The client gets what the client wants... ( i know i didnt answer it ) You didn't answer anything so why post? Go kill some industrials and noobs. Will this be your typical empire war or will you actually be doing major ops in 0.0? Why do you ask questions that we know we will not answer? I didn't know it was such a secret whether you will be focusing more of your efforts in 0.0 or empire. I guess we will all see for ourselves soon then. Well you can alway go join a BB corp and find out. Other then that your an alt and it is none of your business anyway.
Rizmordan Hillgotlieb	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:06:00 - [69] IIRC I have made all the MC public banners in this year, maybe some last year too. I'm sorry my work wasn't up to all your standards. But i'm not here to please you all either Quite frankly this is one of my favorites because of how it's put together and the meaning behind the banner as well. It probably won't mean too much to people outside of the MC or Big Blue.
Prohibited	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:16:00 - [70] Originally by: Cowboy Other then that your an alt and it is none of your business anyway. Ok, good argument! Maybe finish high school and you can buy a clue then.

ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:24:00 - [71] Originally by: Prohibited Originally by: Cowboy Other then that your an alt and it is none of your business anyway. Ok, good argument! Maybe finish high school and you can buy a clue then. Uhh.. hypocritical maybe? BDCI Recruitment Officer
Crypt	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:26:00 - [72] Originally by: Prohibited Originally by: Cowboy Other then that your an alt and it is none of your business anyway. Ok, good argument! Maybe finish high school and you can buy a clue then. Says the 10 year old using mommys computer
Cowboy	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:33:00 - [73] Originally by: Prohibited Originally by: Cowboy Other then that your an alt and it is none of your business anyway. Ok, good argument! Maybe finish high school and you can buy a clue then. The smack is weak with you young Padawan... /hands Prohibited a copy of Forum Flaming For Dummies
Yakti	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:34:00 - [74] So, BB is getting too big in ISS' eyes, so they try to whipe em out ay ...
Shaelin Corpius	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:41:00 - [75] Wtb: a clue, preferabbly tech 2, even a faction one would suffice.
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:43:00 - [76] Originally by: Prohibited Originally by: Cowboy Other then that your an alt and it is none of your business anyway. Ok, good argument! Maybe finish high school and you can buy a clue then. Yes because the 1 month old charc has soooooooo much clue , you are not require on this thread you have bought nothing but smack so please either make sensible comments or be quiet. Getting back to topic good luck BB I think most people by now know your not the defencelss alliance most people make you out to be
Prohibited	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:45:00 - [77] Originally by: Cowboy The smack is weak with you young Padawan... /hands Prohibited a copy of Forum Flaming For Dummies Aww shucks.. thanks!
Ortu Konsinni	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:46:00 - [78] Well, that's just sad. I mean, of course I can't blame the MC for it since mercs are mercs (I would know), but whoever's contracting the MC to attack the Big Blue... is just sad. Yep. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
Prohibited	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:47:00 - [79] Originally by: Ortu Konsinni Well, that's just sad. I mean, of course I can't blame the MC for it since mercs are mercs (I would know), but whoever's contracting the MC to attack the Big Blue... is just sad. Yep.
pringprang	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:57:00 - [80] So does all of this mean that Omber Zombie can now justify calling Seleene the evil one? _____________________ We are not a mining corp. We are not a pvp corp. We are a 0.0 corp. CoRM is recruiting here

Hectic	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:59:00 - [81] I would just hope the fighting is kept clean (on both sides). Two of these alliances are the best at what they do, simply different fields. I would like to see an end where this contract will leave both organizations still respected and hopefully still standing. GL BB, GL MC OMG the sieges required will be crazy. You're going to need a lot of strontium here Seleene. An underwater creature. Sig must be under 24000 bytes - Cathath ([email protected]) They ganked my sig!!
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.03 00:02:00 - [82] Originally by: pringprang So does all of this mean that Omber Zombie can now justify calling Seleene the evil one? If only you knew BDCI Recruitment Officer
Reprehensable	Posted - 2006.06.03 00:05:00 - [83] Originally by: nickycakes whoever needed to hire mercs for this fails at eve I'd be pretty quiet if I were you, seeing as how all your alliances cant even keep RA from taking a station.
Dave White	Posted - 2006.06.03 00:13:00 - [84] Edited by: Dave White on 03/06/2006 00:13:34 Double post ftl :(
Dave White	Posted - 2006.06.03 00:13:00 - [85] Edited by: Dave White on 03/06/2006 00:14:24 Lockdown! Lockdown! Lockdown! Lockdown! Lockdown! Lockdown!
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2006.06.03 00:14:00 - [86] Have fun!
Marovinchian	Posted - 2006.06.03 00:16:00 - [87] GL BB, and a big o/ too lih, will be fun seeing you guys again
GoGo Yubari	Posted - 2006.06.03 00:16:00 - [88] Edited by: GoGo Yubari on 03/06/2006 00:16:56 Edited by: GoGo Yubari on 03/06/2006 00:16:10 Originally by: Grimster I think you should leave the poor BB guys alone.. Hang on what char is this? L O L
Hermia	Posted - 2006.06.03 00:23:00 - [89] Hopefully this contract doesnt require the removal of BB, their style brings contrast, their operation a service. Good luck BB ----------------------------------------------- please dont mail me ingame, returning to eve in June
TOOMY	Posted - 2006.06.03 00:28:00 - [90] omg molle post

laotse	Posted - 2006.06.03 00:30:00 - [91] pff on the the big blue seleene you slacking dear wrong targets wrong forum post what,s next 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg[/img] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Troye	Posted - 2006.06.03 00:51:00 - [92] One of the few alliance that allow neutral access to 0.0 and some one wants them dead, anyone know why? TBB are EVEs self confensed carebear alliance, hardly a great threat to anyone and hiring the MC is alittle overkill imo. _______________________________________________
Lonius starblaze	Posted - 2006.06.03 01:10:00 - [93] I really expected more of you Seleene with your incredeble pretty face and lust for power i just hmmm sigh
DirtyHarry	Posted - 2006.06.03 01:31:00 - [94] GL MC, you will need it against those hardcore PvPers. -Havo ------------------- DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - yarr tbh "Take from the rich and put it on eBay" - zincol
marian chu	Posted - 2006.06.03 01:54:00 - [95] there went t2 prices
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.06.03 02:12:00 - [96] LOCKDOWN people screams arround and runs aimlessly in panic "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!" "WE DIDN'T LISTEN!" well GL for both. ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Ikvar	Posted - 2006.06.03 02:14:00 - [97] Originally by: marian chu there went t2 prices Uh what? NAGA rip people off and make 5000% profit on their stuff just like everyone else do. Originally by: duffmantt the majority of -10's you meet will be highly skilled.
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.06.03 02:18:00 - [98] Originally by: Troye One of the few alliance that allow neutral access to 0.0 and some one wants them dead, anyone know why? TBB are EVEs self confensed carebear alliance, hardly a great threat to anyone and hiring the MC is alittle overkill imo. Ours is not to reason why. Ours is but to do....or die
DELAAN	Posted - 2006.06.03 02:24:00 - [99] Originally by: Kirin I touched Seleene and Seleene touched me back. It was a most exhilerating experience for the both of us... Kirin i thought i was your play toy!
Shy Havok	Posted - 2006.06.03 03:05:00 - [100] Originally by: Troye One of the few alliance that allow neutral access to 0.0 and some one wants them dead, anyone know why? TBB are EVEs self confensed carebear alliance, hardly a great threat to anyone and hiring the MC is alittle overkill imo. Like, ISS n stuff?

Myndpyre Ryche	Posted - 2006.06.03 03:14:00 - [101] Sounds like a lot of fun. Good luck to those involved, enjoy it.
Aciid	Posted - 2006.06.03 03:17:00 - [102] Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: marian chu there went t2 prices Uh what? NAGA rip people off and make 5000% profit on their stuff just like everyone else do. If demand already outweighs supply by a hefty percentage, with an even smaller supply of t2 merchandise in the open market(** you all people in alliances who get ** for cheap <3) will drive price upwards. Simple. So those Industrial corporations able to produce because they were not victims of someone's power trip will be makign generating exponential profits! GL to the both of you tho ^^
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.06.03 03:30:00 - [103] i saw someone quote one of my favorite poets, lord alfred tennyson! thats my new fav person now! <3 bawk! gl to BB, i expect this to be one of our hardest contracts to date and am looking forward to it immensly. Ours not to reason why ours but to do and die into the jaws of death into the mouth of hell rode the 600 (quoted verbatim, maybe alil off). Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Jonis Sinmaker	Posted - 2006.06.03 03:49:00 - [104] Good luck and have fun guys. Side note: Have you guys found out who posted the warning to BB yet? Hope you guys game*****him for it. Join us Today! VLINC
Kaell Meynn	Posted - 2006.06.03 03:53:00 - [105] I really don't think this will hurt their T2 production, like, at all. Which is unfortunate IMO. Not that I have anything against TBB, it's just that it'd be nice if wars had like, implications on production and such. Again... alts 4tl :\.
Gavin Kineli	Posted - 2006.06.03 04:23:00 - [106] Originally by: pringprang So does all of this mean that Omber Zombie can now justify calling Seleene the evil one? No - a prerequisite for joining my corp is to support anything involving NAGA losing.
Gesthar Malvani	Posted - 2006.06.03 05:35:00 - [107] YAHAAAARRR!! ARRH! Good luck BB! :)
Omber Zombie	Posted - 2006.06.03 05:43:00 - [108] my only response is ----------------------
Malken	Posted - 2006.06.03 05:53:00 - [109] so now the hunt for Kladdkaka is on! Quote: [05:17:46] Obiareus > freindlies dock or safespot [05:17:51] Obiareus > YOU CANNOT WIN
Reiisha	Posted - 2006.06.03 05:58:00 - [110] Originally by: Goldar Originally by: nickycakes whoever needed to hire mercs for this fails at eve My guess is that this is Fragm's way of saying he couldn't get the job done

Uggs386	Posted - 2006.06.03 06:06:00 - [111] yay, shooty shooty. Removed, inappropriate signature image - zhuge
Daras Mortis	Posted - 2006.06.03 06:10:00 - [112] Originally by: marian chu there went t2 prices Seriously? Cerb's for 250mil + ... Id say theyre ripping off all of Eve. Good going MC. - Be Spartan -
Dev1lish	Posted - 2006.06.03 06:11:00 - [113] Originally by: Daras Mortis Originally by: marian chu there went t2 prices Seriously? Cerb's for 250mil + ... Id say theyre ripping off all of Eve. Good going MC. - Be Spartan - Sorry. <-- My Main.
Kisses	Posted - 2006.06.03 06:19:00 - [114] Edited by: Kisses on 03/06/2006 06:19:18 Did BOB get their usual discount?
Demon Fury	Posted - 2006.06.03 10:29:00 - [115] Originally by: Daras Mortis Originally by: marian chu there went t2 prices Seriously? Cerb's for 250mil + ... Id say theyre ripping off all of Eve. Good going MC. - Be Spartan - N.A.G.A doesn't even sell cerbs you retard. You shouldn't speak when you obviously have no clue what your talking about.
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2006.06.03 10:29:00 - [116] WTB: Popcorn Carrier & Fighter Sales
KingAc	Posted - 2006.06.03 11:58:00 - [117] We did get intel on that the lost kladdkaka is hidden in BWL. OZ are going to sneak in and bring to me when this is all over.
Jupit0r	Posted - 2006.06.03 12:17:00 - [118] Hahaha Mc lost the first ship
Spartan239	Posted - 2006.06.03 12:25:00 - [119] Originally by: Jupit0r Hahaha Mc lost the first ship Im sure the loss of a kestrel has rocked the MC to the core and will be a blow they can never recover from Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
welsh wizard	Posted - 2006.06.03 12:31:00 - [120] Originally by: Prohibited Originally by: Cowboy Other then that your an alt and it is none of your business anyway. Ok, good argument! Maybe finish high school and you can buy a clue then.

MysticNZ	Posted - 2006.06.03 12:44:00 - [121] Edited by: MysticNZ on 03/06/2006 12:44:47 WOW MC Spam thread of the year. I guess you get bored having people pay you to pvp. -=====-
Shigsy	Posted - 2006.06.03 13:06:00 - [122] Its pretty lame attacking carebares...(not blaming MC) Oh well gl BB, i'll always <3 ya
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.03 13:16:00 - [123] Originally by: Shigsy Its pretty lame attacking carebares...(not blaming MC) Oh well gl BB, i'll always <3 ya BB is building a Titan... ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Originally by: Jenny Spitfire EvE is ecstatically malevolent.
Ortu Konsinni	Posted - 2006.06.03 13:23:00 - [124] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Shigsy Its pretty lame attacking carebares...(not blaming MC) Oh well gl BB, i'll always <3 ya BB is building a Titan... Big **ing deal? --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!**
Ikvar	Posted - 2006.06.03 13:59:00 - [125] Originally by: Spartan239 Originally by: Jupit0r Hahaha Mc lost the first ship Im sure the loss of a kestrel has rocked the MC to the core and will be a blow they can never recover from Unfortunatley, the entire economic force of the MC went into building that Kestrel and it's 1MN Microwarpdrive I. We will no longer be able to persue a war because of it Originally by: duffmantt the majority of -10's you meet will be highly skilled.
Golan Trevize	Posted - 2006.06.03 14:47:00 - [126] Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: Spartan239 Originally by: Jupit0r Hahaha Mc lost the first ship Im sure the loss of a kestrel has rocked the MC to the core and will be a blow they can never recover from Unfortunatley, the entire economic force of the MC went into building that Kestrel and it's 1MN Microwarpdrive I. We will no longer be able to persue a war because of it Avenge the Kestrel...... The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.06.03 14:54:00 - [127] Originally by: Shigsy Its pretty lame attacking carebares...(not blaming MC) They are the 15th largest alliance in the game. Painting them all as "carebears" is a bit of a generalization.
Zaak Tanner	Posted - 2006.06.03 15:02:00 - [128] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Shigsy Its pretty lame attacking carebares...(not blaming MC) They are the 15th largest alliance in the game. Painting them all as "carebears" is a bit of a generalization. With 60% of the 900 members being Eve University students, but if it makes you feel better......... Great training though
Shigsy	Posted - 2006.06.03 15:06:00 - [129] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Shigsy Its pretty lame attacking carebares...(not blaming MC) They are the 15th largest alliance in the game. Painting them all as "carebears" is a bit of a generalization. But they are all carebears.... heh
Cohkka	Posted - 2006.06.03 15:12:00 - [130] How could I miss that one? /me grabs HPLWs popcorn... Don't speak english, just F5, F5, F5...

Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.03 15:36:00 - [131] AVENGE THE KESTREL!!! - History of the MC movie!
Karunel	Posted - 2006.06.03 16:04:00 - [132] Good luck TBB, HF both sides Oh and btw, Quote: They are the 15th largest alliance in the game. That's true but: " Eve University consists of 464 members". Keep in mind that.
McCool	Posted - 2006.06.03 16:09:00 - [133] Originally by: Demon Fury Originally by: Daras Mortis Originally by: marian chu there went t2 prices Seriously? Cerb's for 250mil + ... Id say theyre ripping off all of Eve. Good going MC. - Be Spartan - N.A.G.A doesn't even sell cerbs you retard. You shouldn't speak when you obviously have no clue what your talking about. they might not sell cerbs but last time i checked 149 mil for a zealot is more then a few % profit.
Double TaP	Posted - 2006.06.03 16:26:00 - [134] have to post this, sorry: "we didn't listen!!!" off in the distance somewhere: "we didnt listennnnnn!!"
Tarphon	Posted - 2006.06.03 16:36:00 - [135] Originally by: Spartan239 Originally by: Jupit0r Hahaha Mc lost the first ship Im sure the loss of a kestrel has rocked the MC to the core and will be a blow they can never recover from OMG First the shock of this war and then the terrible fate of the MC Will EvE ever be the same!!1 GL HF both sides
Furnak Tye	Posted - 2006.06.03 17:30:00 - [136] Edited by: Furnak Tye on 03/06/2006 17:30:32 We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
SpaceDrake Storyteller	Posted - 2006.06.03 17:58:00 - [137] Originally by: Furnak Tye Edited by: Furnak Tye on 03/06/2006 17:30:32 We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender. I hereby declare this thread epic. -------------- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward? Player of the character "Andre Ricard".
Tennotsukai	Posted - 2006.06.03 18:07:00 - [138] Originally by: Furnak Tye Edited by: Furnak Tye on 03/06/2006 17:30:32 We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender. NBSI poilicy includes Santa....
Ehxo	Posted - 2006.06.03 18:11:00 - [139] Originally by: Tennotsukai Originally by: Furnak Tye Edited by: Furnak Tye on 03/06/2006 17:30:32 We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender. NBSI poilicy includes Santa.... ROFL -
Fedaykin Naib	Posted - 2006.06.03 18:32:00 - [140] I LOVE CHURCH!!!!! GO BLUE! "Long Live the Fighters!"

Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.03 18:37:00 - [141] So is this a cover up for MC to change alliance name like many alliances in the past few months? /me imagines MC's reputation after being defeated by Big Blue. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Originally by: Jenny Spitfire EvE is ecstatically malevolent.
Kannteir	Posted - 2006.06.03 18:58:00 - [142] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire So is this a cover up for MC to change alliance name like many alliances in the past few months? /me imagines MC's reputation after being defeated by Big Blue. What is our resident hottie doing in alliance chat? :-D __________________________________________
Dai'mon	Posted - 2006.06.03 19:21:00 - [143] Tennotsukai wins the forums today!!! GL and have fun
Reprehensable	Posted - 2006.06.03 19:30:00 - [144] WHy does anyone pity BB? It's not like they arent uber rich. They can afford to hire all the help they could ever need....
Shyalud	Posted - 2006.06.03 19:38:00 - [145] Originally by: Reprehensable WHy does anyone pity BB? It's not like they arent uber rich. They can afford to hire all the help they could ever need.... Then why haven't they? CHSN High Council
Double TaP	Posted - 2006.06.03 19:41:00 - [146] Originally by: Tennotsukai [IMG http://www.funnypart.com/pictures/FunnyPart-com-dead.jpg[/IMG] NBSI poilicy includes Santa.... I don't see the picture. Wish I could.
Leno	Posted - 2006.06.03 19:46:00 - [147] Originally by: Daras Mortis Originally by: marian chu there went t2 prices Seriously? Cerb's for 250mil + ... Id say theyre ripping off all of Eve. Good going MC. - Be Spartan - hint hint seleene has the cerb bpo... --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.06.03 19:46:00 - [148] Originally by: Double TaP I don't see the picture. Wish I could. frivolously ignoring copyright, this is the image you seek; [Art of War][- V -]
Gavin Kineli	Posted - 2006.06.03 19:54:00 - [149] Originally by: Shyalud Originally by: Reprehensable WHy does anyone pity BB? It's not like they arent uber rich. They can afford to hire all the help they could ever need.... Then why haven't they? Because they're not particularly bright people?
deadmanwalking	Posted - 2006.06.03 20:35:00 - [150] Edited by: deadmanwalking on 03/06/2006 20:36:28 MC have avenged their loss of kestrel and 1mn MWD by killing an E-UNI merlin fitted with a civilian armor repairer. The losses on both sides are staggering; it is questionable who can hold out the longest.

Dirtball	Posted - 2006.06.03 20:44:00 - [151] Cant wait to not download the next boring capital fleet vid.
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.06.03 20:49:00 - [152] Originally by: Dirtball Cant wait to not download the next boring capital fleet vid. Then don't -------------------------------------------------
Sue Tama	Posted - 2006.06.03 21:07:00 - [153] is it normal for MC to invite everyone to a party and not turn up
I'SPY YOU	Posted - 2006.06.03 21:11:00 - [154] Originally by: Dirtball Cant wait to not download the next boring capital fleet vid. I know I am waiting for your ganking npcers vid. It takes so much talent to fly a****abon with 3-5 wcs.
Netto	Posted - 2006.06.03 21:22:00 - [155] Originally by: I'SPY YOU Originally by: Dirtball Cant wait to not download the next boring capital fleet vid. I know I am waiting for your ganking npcers vid. It takes so much talent to fly a***abon with 3-5 wcs. Okay, I laughed Netto Celestial Fleet* - We care.
Bland Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.06.03 21:47:00 - [156] Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: Double TaP I don't see the picture. Wish I could. frivolously ignoring copyright, this is the image you seek; that is proper funny Alliances Pwn All LDT Recruitment
Chronus26	Posted - 2006.06.03 21:53:00 - [157] Originally by: Dirtball Cant wait to not download the next boring capital fleet vid. To be honest sir, I really don't like the cut of your moustache. If you think that Video is boring, you totally miss the point of it. -----
BoinKlasik	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:01:00 - [158] I swear seleene times these perfectly to make sure i dont get to post in em O.o 6 pages in a little over a day \o/ gl to BB, because i dont think the MC will need as much. doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Vincent Gaines	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:09:00 - [159] looks like things are really heating up in BWF right now
Oreh Anavrin	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:29:00 - [160] 6 Pages and no BB reply? (or did I miss it, I was scrolling through looking at alliances)

Porter Hadlend	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:31:00 - [161] They don't post on the forums much under these sorts of things.. one of the pleasant features about TBB TBH :) -------------- Porter Hadlend Pround Member of The Shattered Star Confederation Gaming better since 1997.
Spartan239	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:05:00 - [162] Originally by: I'SPY YOU Originally by: Dirtball Cant wait to not download the next boring capital fleet vid. I know I am waiting for your ganking npcers vid. It takes so much talent to fly a**abon with 3-5 wcs. aw comeon spread the love with your main Originally by:** Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
Aciid	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:18:00 - [163] Originally by: Shyalud Originally by: Reprehensable WHy does anyone pity BB? It's not like they arent uber rich. They can afford to hire all the help they could ever need.... Then why haven't they? Because MC is just about the only half-decent Mercenary Enterprise out there.. besides them you got dragoon's alektorophobia, and you know how that went :P
El Yatta	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:22:00 - [164] Originally by: Gavin Kineli Originally by: Shyalud Originally by: Reprehensable WHy does anyone pity BB? It's not like they arent uber rich. They can afford to hire all the help they could ever need.... Then why haven't they? Because they're not particularly bright people? To be blunt, with contraband now in the MC (at least for this job, no idea as to the long-term plans of it), I'd say we've about reached the point when there's not nearly enough variety or choice in the merc market for BB to reasonably oppose the MC through cash alone. Who're they gonna hire, Alektraphobia (lol)? Thankfully for Blue, they've already proven that they can resist by themselves perfectly well, so I'd say it should be good fun all round. ---:::---
I'SPY YOU	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:24:00 - [165] Originally by: Spartan239 Originally by: I'SPY YOU Originally by: Dirtball Cant wait to not download the next boring capital fleet vid. I know I am waiting for your ganking npcers vid. It takes so much talent to fly a****abon with 3-5 wcs. aw comeon spread the love with your main I would if dirtball did. But, since he uses his alt, I will too.
SengH	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:26:00 - [166] Originally by: El Yatta Originally by: Gavin Kineli Originally by: Shyalud Originally by: Reprehensable WHy does anyone pity BB? It's not like they arent uber rich. They can afford to hire all the help they could ever need.... Then why haven't they? Because they're not particularly bright people? To be blunt, with contraband now in the MC (at least for this job, no idea as to the long-term plans of it), I'd say we've about reached the point when there's not nearly enough variety or choice in the merc market for BB to reasonably oppose the MC through cash alone. Who're they gonna hire, Alektraphobia (lol)? Thankfully for Blue, they've already proven that they can resist by themselves perfectly well, so I'd say it should be good fun all round. TBH they dont need to... with their finances they should easily be able to park 25-30 carriers in a POS and kill off MCs dreads 1 by one with just fighters alone while their stuck in siege mode. The losses they take from losing fighters to the support guarding the dreads is nothing to the BB.
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:29:00 - [167] Originally by: I'SPY YOU Originally by: Dirtball Cant wait to not download the next boring capital fleet vid. I know I am waiting for your ganking npcers vid. It takes so much talent to fly a****abon with 3-5 wcs. I hate alt posts but this made me laugh. It's too true.
Shaelin Corpius	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:36:00 - [168] Well watch fighters dissapear 5 at a time with support.
SengH	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:39:00 - [169] Originally by: Shaelin Corpius Well watch fighters dissapear 5 at a time with support. bringing your support in range of the POS guns will not be pleasant lol. I'm sure BB is smart enuff to figure out how to fiddle the standings to work it out.
K Shara	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:58:00 - [170] what he means is that kill the conroller and the fighters bugger off <><><><><><><><><> Contraband <><><><><><><><><>

SengH	Posted - 2006.06.04 00:00:00 - [171] Originally by: K Shara what he means is that kill the conroller and the fighters bugger off Thats why you use intys as the controller and do flybys :P.
Shaelin Corpius	Posted - 2006.06.04 00:21:00 - [172] Well the options for Capital warfare are limited, but you can always find a way to counter anything.
Gavin Kineli	Posted - 2006.06.04 00:21:00 - [173] Originally by: SengH Originally by: El Yatta Originally by: Gavin Kineli Originally by: Shyalud Originally by: Reprehensable WHy does anyone pity BB? It's not like they arent uber rich. They can afford to hire all the help they could ever need.... Then why haven't they? Because they're not particularly bright people? To be blunt, with contraband now in the MC (at least for this job, no idea as to the long-term plans of it), I'd say we've about reached the point when there's not nearly enough variety or choice in the merc market for BB to reasonably oppose the MC through cash alone. Who're they gonna hire, Alektraphobia (lol)? Thankfully for Blue, they've already proven that they can resist by themselves perfectly well, so I'd say it should be good fun all round. TBH they dont need to... with their finances they should easily be able to park 25-30 carriers in a POS and kill off MCs dreads 1 by one with just fighters alone while their stuck in siege mode. The losses they take from losing fighters to the support guarding the dreads is nothing to the BB. And TBH MC probably has more carriers than TBB does.
Grimster	Posted - 2006.06.04 01:09:00 - [174] Originally by: Manus Ghostface Originally by: Grimster BB put up an excellent defense this evening. Hats off to you fellas, you've got more balls than most. gg, lets see more, I'm sure MM's proud of the eve-uni guys. Thanks. From the thread Fowl started, it sounds like the lagmonster was firmly chomping on both sides, heres to hoping that CCP can ease the bipartisan suffering from that. Nothing worse than losing a ship without a chance to fight back. Indeed - lag went on for all (prolly worse for us jumping in tbh but meh). Still a top-notch fight regardless of the lag. We blog at The Jammy Blog
El Yatta	Posted - 2006.06.04 01:28:00 - [175] Originally by: Altai Saker Not everyone who will fight for money advertises as a merc... I can think of atleast a few good hired guns. To be honest, anyone who hasn't done mercenary work before, isnt worth putting your ISK in, no matter how fantastic their PVP reputation, nor how brilliant their tactics and skills. You put down money based on somebody's reputation for taking that and doing what you've paid them for, and if they've never done that, how do you know they will? ---:::---
juduzz	Posted - 2006.06.04 02:13:00 - [176] Originally by: Altai Saker Not everyone who will fight for money advertises as a merc... I can think of atleast a few good hired guns. Altais just cus your jeaslious like when you stole my plated ranis setup j/k :P and agree maybe BB will hire you guys and we will get more fun fights \o/ p.s get ya arse in the old school fe channel its starting to get populated again :P
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.06.04 04:28:00 - [177] I have noted this thread and will be joining the fun soon goon out. "What i have posted Is what i think and in everyway relates to what my alliance feels, it does not however effect my real life or make me want to warp scramble my sister and blow her head off
Porter Hadlend	Posted - 2006.06.04 04:36:00 - [178] Edited by: Porter Hadlend on 04/06/2006 04:36:20 I assume as per the statement in in the OP that fragm & co. will be fair game for all MC pilots in the BWF/IPS region. hehehe That's if you can pin him down -------------- Porter Hadlend Pround Member of The Shattered Star Confederation Gaming better since 1997.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.06.04 04:49:00 - [179] Edited by: thedragoon on 04/06/2006 04:50:27 Originally by: Porter Hadlend Edited by: Porter Hadlend on 04/06/2006 04:36:20 I assume as per the statement in in the OP that fragm & co. will be fair game for all MC pilots in the BWF/IPS region. hehehe That's if you can pin him down I dont think i would have it any other way Although i have to say it will not make any diffrence in the out come if they fit guns or not to there ships "What i have posted Is what i think and in everyway relates to what my alliance feels, it does not however effect my real life or make me want to warp scramble my sister and blow her head off
Hectic	Posted - 2006.06.04 05:13:00 - [180] Gavin Kineli, I've heard a lot about you, and TBH I am very glad that I've never met you... /emote sighs OZ who are these new friends of yours? And why do they do the things they do? Hectics prediction: Gavin < 14 An underwater creature. Sig must be under 24000 bytes - Cathath ([email protected]) They ganked my sig!!

Petite Pierre	Posted - 2006.06.04 07:56:00 - [181] I predict the extinction of mercenaries as a phenomenon in eve within one year. Old skool pirating will flourish once again, and The East will be a big time alliance. --------------------
Trina Tron	Posted - 2006.06.04 08:00:00 - [182] Originally by: Petite Pierre I predict the extinction of mercenaries as a phenomenon in eve within one year. Old skool pirating will flourish once again, and The East will be a big time alliance. pirates = paid to not kill people mercs = paid to kill people For that reason alone pirates < mercs. Thus mercs will be around longer then pirates
GhostFox	Posted - 2006.06.04 08:05:00 - [183] Originally by: Hectic Gavin Kineli, I've heard a lot about you, and TBH I am very glad that I've never met you... /emote sighs OZ who are these new friends of yours? And why do they do the things they do? Hectics prediction: Gavin < 14 Ghost's prediction: Hectic > Barbie Girl
Omber Zombie	Posted - 2006.06.04 11:04:00 - [184] Originally by: Hectic Gavin Kineli, I've heard a lot about you, and TBH I am very glad that I've never met you... /emote sighs OZ who are these new friends of yours? And why do they do the things they do? Hectics prediction: Gavin < 14 It's amazing what thngs will be said about various people that have no basis in reality, just pure imagination extrapolated from previous acts. Altho in this case what you have heard about gavin is probably mostly true; he's a ruthless bastard. Now all he needs is a sense of timing and some tact, and maybe a swift kick to the nads every so often to remind him he's still human, and he could prolly take over eve. How's RKK going? Having fun? ----------------------
Hectic	Posted - 2006.06.04 15:58:00 - [185] Hey OZ, you're right, I try not to always rely on what I have 'heard' about people, But I think that nad kicking is needed in this case, as Gavin is living up to his rep here. RKK is awesome, thanks for asking, I have never had this much fun playing the game before. I hope you are happy where you are to OZ, I always looked up to you and I hope you are enjoying the game yourself in FTEK. Hope to speak to you again soonÖ. Oh and nad smack Gavin plz lol. Ghost: ME > Barbie Girl ♥ U 2 An underwater creature. Sig must be under 24000 bytes - Cathath ([email protected]) They ganked my sig!!
Therem Harth	Posted - 2006.06.04 18:03:00 - [186] Edited by: Therem Harth on 04/06/2006 18:04:13 Nerf T2 tinfoil hats I say! it's the 7th page already and there is not a single conspiracy theory based on the subject line saying all MC have now joined RA? EDIT: grammar --
Demitri Klashnikov	Posted - 2006.06.04 18:32:00 - [187] Originally by: Therem Harth Edited by: Therem Harth on 04/06/2006 18:04:13 Nerf T2 tinfoil hats I say! it's the 7th page already and there is not a single conspiracy theory based on the subject line saying all MC have now joined RA? EDIT: grammar Well thats hardly likley is it!! -----------------------------------------------
Kannteir	Posted - 2006.06.05 04:49:00 - [188] If there's one thing I have learned it's that you can always find a decent gun for hire if you look long enough. The best thing about a lot of merc corps is they never show up on the forums, and while so much of empire politics never do show up on the forums, those are the pilots that will be soon replacing the gaps left by those who have left. But then again MC has big scary ships that make me drop to my knees and cry. __________________________________________
Manus Ghostface	Posted - 2006.06.05 06:48:00 - [189] So how was the lag today? With it beeing another weekend day (and the inherent larger logged in totals), I hope they dedicated more resources or something. That city is well fortified which has a wall of men instead of brick. - Lycurgus
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.05 06:55:00 - [190] Originally by: Manus Ghostface So how was the lag today? With it beeing another weekend day (and the inherent larger logged in totals), I hope they dedicated more resources or something. The lag was still HORRIBLE even when we had a small gang of about 20 people, and i mean mods were taking minutes to activate. I think it's because that system has over 40 large POS and a whole lot of guns etc. Its not fun.. BDCI Recruitment Officer

Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.05 07:15:00 - [191] Originally by: ParMizaN The lag was still HORRIBLE even when we had a small gang of about 20 people, and i mean mods were taking minutes to activate. I think it's because that system has over 40 large POS and a whole lot of guns etc. Its not fun.. I've been in systems with 200+ people shooting at each other and experienced slight delays, but nothing like what I've seen in BWF. Even in small gangs, it gets boggged down. It's not about hardware either. The lag appears to be pretty random. Several of us with monster PC's were crippled by the lag, whereas some of our US and Aussie players with 'normal' machines said they had minimal module delays. The POS issue has been brought up as a consideration more than once. I don't know of another system in EVE with the number of fortifications Blue has online. There has also never been action on this scale in the area since Blue moved in so it's new for everyone. I've been speaking with Big Blue on the side and we're going to both try to get some extra resources dedicated to the area. This is not going to be a quick or easy campaign and a war like this can be a lot of fun, but the last thing either side wants is for lag to determine the outcome. - History of the MC movie!
Manus Ghostface	Posted - 2006.06.05 07:26:00 - [192] Originally by: Seleene There has also never been action on this scale in the area since Blue moved in so it's new for everyone. I've been speaking with Big Blue on the side and we're going to both try to get some extra resources dedicated to the area. This is not going to be a quick or easy campaign and a war like this can be a lot of fun, but the last thing either side wants is for lag to determine the outcome. I was wondering about that yesterday, because the GMS know thet BOBs area, ASCN space, and the North are always getting huge fights. I wonder if they have allocated more power to those areas on a continual basis, and then planned on expanding to "quieter" areas as needed later on. If the POS is found to be the source of the lag, then CCP will need to figure out something before Kali and even more items/reasons to roll out more POS. That city is well fortified which has a wall of men instead of brick. - Lycurgus
Crellion	Posted - 2006.06.05 08:59:00 - [193] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: ParMizaN The lag was still HORRIBLE even when we had a small gang of about 20 people, and i mean mods were taking minutes to activate. I think it's because that system has over 40 large POS and a whole lot of guns etc. Its not fun.. I've been in systems with 200+ people shooting at each other and experienced slight delays, but nothing like what I've seen in BWF. Even in small gangs, it gets boggged down. It's not about hardware either. The lag appears to be pretty random. Several of us with monster PC's were crippled by the lag, whereas some of our US and Aussie players with 'normal' machines said they had minimal module delays. The POS issue has been brought up as a consideration more than once. I don't know of another system in EVE with the number of fortifications Blue has online. There has also never been action on this scale in the area since Blue moved in so it's new for everyone. I've been speaking with Big Blue on the side and we're going to both try to get some extra resources dedicated to the area. This is not going to be a quick or easy campaign and a war like this can be a lot of fun, but the last thing either side wants is for lag to determine the outcome. Good luck with that Seleene. Previous weekend I warped my poor Mega to enemy L Pos (with gang etc) 7 times in c-j. Stayed there until structure all 7 times (3-6 mins each time?) and didnt actually get one (1) single gun to activate one any one of the targets even when I tried to ignore primaries (after the first 2-3 times). I mention this cause c-j is not that far from BWF. If you plan to do POS attacks en mass rly do try to get extra recources allocated or you stand to lose Dreads (among other things) due to lag.
Lodhi	Posted - 2006.06.05 12:00:00 - [194] Edited by: Lodhi on 05/06/2006 12:02:51 Originally by: Trina Tron Originally by: Petite Pierre I predict the extinction of mercenaries as a phenomenon in eve within one year. Old skool pirating will flourish once again, and The East will be a big time alliance. pirates = paid to not kill people mercs = paid to kill people For that reason alone pirates < mercs. Thus mercs will be around longer then pirates Pirates = Earn cash by killing ppl Mercs = Earn cash by killing ppl Your only pirates that has evolved abit. Not saying that i don't like it tho Cowboy you big strong man, we miss you in celes
YZAAR	Posted - 2006.06.05 14:33:00 - [195] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: ParMizaN The lag was still HORRIBLE even when we had a small gang of about 20 people, and i mean mods were taking minutes to activate. I think it's because that system has over 40 large POS and a whole lot of guns etc. Its not fun.. I've been in systems with 200+ people shooting at each other and experienced slight delays, but nothing like what I've seen in BWF. Even in small gangs, it gets boggged down. It's not about hardware either. The lag appears to be pretty random. Several of us with monster PC's were crippled by the lag, whereas some of our US and Aussie players with 'normal' machines said they had minimal module delays. The POS issue has been brought up as a consideration more than once. I don't know of another system in EVE with the number of fortifications Blue has online. There has also never been action on this scale in the area since Blue moved in so it's new for everyone. I've been speaking with Big Blue on the side and we're going to both try to get some extra resources dedicated to the area. This is not going to be a quick or easy campaign and a war like this can be a lot of fun, but the last thing either side wants is for lag to determine the outcome. DEJAVU
Lansfear	Posted - 2006.06.05 14:49:00 - [196] Sarge ftw. Go Red Team! "Simmons, I want you to poison Griffs next meal."
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.06.05 15:18:00 - [197] Bye Bye BB Cant wait to see a new MC vid on this war -------------------------- Guns dont Kill People Drones Do
Porter Hadlend	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:04:00 - [198] Still haven't figured out why so many people dislike them :-/ -------------- Porter Hadlend Pround Member of The Shattered Star Confederation Gaming better since 1997.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:14:00 - [199] Originally by: Porter Hadlend Still haven't figured out why so many people dislike them :-/ Overpriced T2s. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Originally by: Jenny Spitfire EvE is ecstatically malevolent.
Porter Hadlend	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:17:00 - [200] which is different from the other producers how? -------------- Porter Hadlend Pround Member of The Shattered Star Confederation Gaming better since 1997.

Yzman Shhan	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:21:00 - [201] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Porter Hadlend Still haven't figured out why so many people dislike them :-/ Overpriced T2s. I actually think N.A.G.A prices are quite fair, the wait is long on some ships though.. --
Hectic	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:48:00 - [202] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Porter Hadlend Still haven't figured out why so many people dislike them :-/ Overpriced T2s. An underwater creature. Sig must be under 24000 bytes - Cathath ([email protected]) They ganked my sig!!
Kannteir	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:56:00 - [203] Originally by: Meeko Gloom Cant wait to see a new MC vid on this war A new video on what? Lag? :-D I don't think there will be much to see, not right now anyway... __________________________________________
Suladriel	Posted - 2006.06.05 17:36:00 - [204] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Porter Hadlend Still haven't figured out why so many people dislike them :-/ Overpriced T2s. LMAO, thats rich! -------------- .___. {O,o} /)__) -"-"- O RLY? I'm not famous, nor infamous. Your bio looks much better in colour, and I haxed this sig. --Jorauk
Mach3	Posted - 2006.06.05 18:21:00 - [205] Tis a little late in coming but i do give honor where honor was due and the battle on saturday was a very good one and fun for all despite the horrible lag. I'm here to say good job M/C. Was a very honorable standup fight
ElCoCo	Posted - 2006.06.05 18:41:00 - [206] I wish TBB goodluck! Hope whatever greedy producer hired MC "misplaces" some T2 BPO's And have fun MC...you guys are top notch (but don't win ofcourse )
Fiona Appletart	Posted - 2006.06.07 03:43:00 - [207] Originally by: ElCoCo I wish TBB goodluck! Hope whatever greedy producer hired MC "misplaces" some T2 BPO's And have fun MC...you guys are top notch (but don't win ofcourse ) /signed :)
Beringe	Posted - 2006.06.07 04:24:00 - [208] Originally by: Troye One of the few alliance that allow neutral access to 0.0 and some one wants them dead, anyone know why? TBB are EVEs self confensed carebear alliance, hardly a great threat to anyone and hiring the MC is alittle overkill imo. Couldn't agree more. Probably some rich bastard who is competing with NAGA, and couldn't care less who else goes down in the resulting flames. The irony is that this will hurt NAGA least of all, and the noobs of TBB most. Hehe, I guess the Alektrophobia contract didn't take. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
deadmanwalking	Posted - 2006.06.07 06:53:00 - [209] Edited by: deadmanwalking on 07/06/2006 06:54:21 The latest casualty in the war: In retaliation for FRICK's ganking of many innocent noobs, the innocent FRICK shark has been beheaded!
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 07:02:00 - [210] Edited by: Seleene on 07/06/2006 07:02:17 Originally by: deadmanwalking The latest casualty in the war: In retaliation for FRICK's ganking of many innocent noobs, the innocent FRICK shark has been beheaded! Noobs? It's scary out there, m8. Taken from MC Teamspeak last night: FowlPlayChicken calls targets in BWF. - History of the MC movie!

deadmanwalking	Posted - 2006.06.07 07:53:00 - [211] Edited by: deadmanwalking on 07/06/2006 07:54:56 Film was promised. Here it is: http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0606/deadshark.png One of the cans claims this brutal execution in the name of Zandramus and Super Twinkey69 of Eve University. If true, any guesses who FowlPlayChiken will be calling primary for the duration?
Hoozin	Posted - 2006.06.07 08:13:00 - [212] Edited by: Hoozin on 07/06/2006 08:13:35 Originally by: deadmanwalking Edited by: deadmanwalking on 07/06/2006 07:54:56 Film was promised. Here it is: http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0606/deadshark.png One of the cans claims this brutal execution in the name of Zandramus and Super Twinkey69 of Eve University. If true, any guesses who FowlPlayChiken will be calling primary for the duration? Up until about now I was actually cheering for Big Blue. Now I'm kinda hoping for a bandwagon effect to finish them off. "Whatever you do, don't hit him in the balls." "You said it was anything goes." "It is ... but he'll take it personal." --------------------------------- Proper Haiku requires Gills ... and pretty panties.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 08:20:00 - [213] Originally by: deadmanwalking Film was promised. Here it is: http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0606/deadshark.png One of the cans claims this brutal execution in the name of Zandramus and Super Twinkey69 of Eve University. If true, any guesses who FowlPlayChiken will be calling primary for the duration? If this is true, you have just elevated the status of this war to something far beyond a simple contract. - History of the MC movie!
maGz	Posted - 2006.06.07 08:27:00 - [214] Originally by: deadmanwalking Edited by: deadmanwalking on 07/06/2006 07:54:56 Film was promised. Here it is: http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0606/deadshark.png One of the cans claims this brutal execution in the name of Zandramus and Super Twinkey69 of Eve University. If true, any guesses who FowlPlayChiken will be calling primary for the duration? Good luck BB. Now you'll most definitely need it ______________________
LoxyRider	Posted - 2006.06.07 08:30:00 - [215] Seriously though thats incredibly childish, prepare to die!
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.06.07 08:41:00 - [216] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: deadmanwalking Film was promised. Here it is: http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0606/deadshark.png One of the cans claims this brutal execution in the name of Zandramus and Super Twinkey69 of Eve University. If true, any guesses who FowlPlayChiken will be calling primary for the duration? If this is true, you have just elevated the status of this war to something far beyond a simple contract. It is true sel , I wouldnt say it was down to TBB but certain inmature members.
Velsharoon	Posted - 2006.06.07 08:47:00 - [217] Can we join MC for the duration of this contract
Riddari	Posted - 2006.06.07 08:53:00 - [218] Oh wow I can hardly believe MC. MC use spies = mwahaha.. we are nber MC gets hit by spy = hey! no fair! this is detrimental to our operations! MC whacks a newbie training corp = its the game dudes MC shark sign gets mutilated (or something) = oh wow dudes, that is personal Seriously, you've gone past double standards and into the realm of the Twilight Zone. ¼+¼ a history
deadmanwalking	Posted - 2006.06.07 08:58:00 - [219] Edited by: deadmanwalking on 07/06/2006 08:58:31 Editorial: Prank against the shark by a war target . . . not a bad idea. The execution of this one, "eh". A decapitated sharks head should be . . . better than this. It's a great landmark and here's hoping the sharks fix it back up.
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.06.07 08:59:00 - [220] Originally by: Riddari Oh wow I can hardly believe MC. MC use spies = mwahaha.. we are nber MC gets hit by spy = hey! no fair! this is detrimental to our operations! MC whacks a newbie training corp = its the game dudes MC shark sign gets mutilated (or something) = oh wow dudes, that is personal Seriously, you've gone past double standards and into the realm of the Twilight Zone. Please be quiet and go mine some roids or something

Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:12:00 - [221] Originally by: Riddari Oh wow I can hardly believe MC. MC use spies = mwahaha.. we are nber MC gets hit by spy = hey! no fair! this is detrimental to our operations! MC whacks a newbie training corp = its the game dudes MC shark sign gets mutilated (or something) = oh wow dudes, that is personal Seriously, you've gone past double standards and into the realm of the Twilight Zone. Spies? No one in MC gave a rat's ass about information that got "leaked". OHONES, the target got 12 whole hours of advance warning. Big deal. We were **ed that one of our own was pathetic enough to use an alt to do so. That was the issue. And Big Blue is far from a "Newbie Training Corp". They've put up a better fight so far than most so-called PvP alliances. As a professional courtesy, our pilots are avoiding the EVE-Uni home empire systems and concentrating on BWF and the corridor leading up to it. We've been in daily contact with Blue leadership and they aren't exactly crying about recent events. Riddari, seriously, WTF is your problem? We know you don't like us. You take every oppertunity to say so, be it here, in the video section or, your own forums, etc... We get the point.** - History of the MC movie!
Kingdoc	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:13:00 - [222] Originally by: Riddari Oh wow I can hardly believe MC. MC use spies = mwahaha.. we are nber MC gets hit by spy = hey! no fair! this is detrimental to our operations! MC whacks a newbie training corp = its the game dudes MC shark sign gets mutilated (or something) = oh wow dudes, that is personal Seriously, you've gone past double standards and into the realm of the Twilight Zone. QFT ------------------------------------- Unnerf boobies! / boost e-penor!
Riddari	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:21:00 - [223] Originally by: Seleene We were **ed that one of our own was pathetic enough to use an alt to do so. That was the issue. Hi. Welcome to the world of alliances. We deal with this every day. Originally by:** Seleene Riddari, seriously, WTF is your problem? We know you don't like us. You take every oppertunity to say so, be it here, in the video section or, your own forums, etc... We get the point. My problem? Did you ever read about the Emperors clothes? If I'm pointing at someone who thinks he's wearing golden robes and I point at him and say "dude, you are not wearing clothes", which one of us has the problem? The dude walking around naked or the dude telling him he's naked? If I took every opportunity there was to "tell about my dislike" for you, don't you honestly think you'd have to start a forum taskforce? What triggered my post was the one you made just earlier, about elevating the situtation by blowing up some cans or adding them or whatever was done. Naked dude walking. ¼+¼ a history
K Shara	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:27:00 - [224] now that most of teh lag seems to have vanished.... YARRRRBBQ <><><><><><><><><> Contraband <><><><><><><><><>
Karmic	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:32:00 - [225] Originally by: Riddari Originally by: Seleene We were **ed that one of our own was pathetic enough to use an alt to do so. That was the issue. Hi. Welcome to the world of alliances. We deal with this every day. Originally by:** Seleene Riddari, seriously, WTF is your problem? We know you don't like us. You take every oppertunity to say so, be it here, in the video section or, your own forums, etc... We get the point. My problem? Did you ever read about the Emperors clothes? If I'm pointing at someone who thinks he's wearing golden robes and I point at him and say "dude, you are not wearing clothes", which one of us has the problem? The dude walking around naked or the dude telling him he's naked? If I took every opportunity there was to "tell about my dislike" for you, don't you honestly think you'd have to start a forum taskforce? What triggered my post was the one you made just earlier, about elevating the situtation by blowing up some cans or adding them or whatever was done. Naked dude walking. Would you just close your pie hole and make like a tree because your getting scarery than a fecking bunny boiler wandering around any thread that mentions any alliance other than yours and "giving your opinion" which is like a gallon of laxitives. - - - - - - - - -
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:32:00 - [226] Well untill today most of our guys kept away from EU home systems, today I don't think we will be able to hold our rabid packs off. Way to go EU, prepare for vengance of apocalyptic proportions. -------------------------------------------------
Karmic	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:34:00 - [227] Originally by: Riddari Oh wow I can hardly believe MC. MC use spies = mwahaha.. we are nber MC gets hit by spy = hey! no fair! this is detrimental to our operations! MC whacks a newbie training corp = its the game dudes MC shark sign gets mutilated (or something) = oh wow dudes, that is personal Seriously, you've gone past double standards and into the realm of the Twilight Zone. WTS Nose Stain Cleaner - - - - - - - - -
Riddari	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:36:00 - [228] I thank the MC members for validating my points. ¼+¼ a history
Hermia	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:40:00 - [229] so agree with riddari, perspective is lost because of CANS lol. Perhaps this is just a rogue few members? ----------------------------------------------- please dont mail me ingame, returning to eve in June
zincol	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:49:00 - [230] lol.... bit OTT to take revenage on noobs for somthing that can be fixed later on.

Marie Elise	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:51:00 - [231] So how was that beheaded or what.. i just dont see it Can we get a before and after pic? or maybe some background story to the shark and what not
Gail	Posted - 2006.06.07 09:53:00 - [232] Originally by: Draximus Cane Well untill today most of our guys kept away from EU home systems, today I don't think we will be able to hold our rabid packs off. Way to go EU, prepare for vengance of apocalyptic proportions. MC's new way of fighting lag. Get the new people before they get a foot hold and they wont ever log again. -------------------------------------
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:12:00 - [233] I'd hate for TBB to lose BWF, but at the same time i <3 frick and MC, so at the moment im split! Maybe support MC if teqno gives me some more love! Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Dol Amroth	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:18:00 - [234] Edited by: Dol Amroth on 07/06/2006 10:19:59 Originally by: Gail MC's new way of fighting lag. Get the new people before they get a foot hold and they wont ever log again. Last I checked there wasn't a published nor acknowledged manual of proper wartime tactics. In fact that's just the point. Some wars are made glamourous and its fortitude well-thought while others such as this are of attrition and digging down into the trenches and making of it what it simply is. They (being EVE-University) are welcome to leave whenever they so choose. It's not us withstanding on them. But oh until then it shall be.
Irimi Nage	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:29:00 - [235] Edited by: Irimi Nage on 07/06/2006 10:30:38 Seleene, If they really did mess with the shark, please kill 50 of them for every can touched, then construct a new one outside their HQ at the undocking point from their dread cans. Then demand they fly to jita in their most expensive ships, form up into a new shark, and simultaneously self-destruct themselves so you can release the fraps. Seriously guys, the cans were art, regardless of the corp affiliation, if you want to go commit random acts of stupidity, please go tag murals like every other half-wit chromer. To MC, please remember that vengence is a dish best served repeatedly. EDIT: I R TEH WIN AT SPELLING ---
emptydude	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:31:00 - [236] lol @ the beheaded shark even though you are on contract and everything, theres no need to kill noobs in eve uni (unless thats what you're being paid for?). sounds like y'all are having a blast though, so i hope neither side wins. -------- YOU'VE READ IT. YOU CAN'T UN-READ IT.
GoGo Yubari	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:35:00 - [237] Originally by: Riddari My problem? Did you ever read about the Emperors clothes? If I'm pointing at someone who thinks he's wearing golden robes and I point at him and say "dude, you are not wearing clothes", which one of us has the problem? The dude walking around naked or the dude telling him he's naked? The dude continuing to say "omg you're naked lol" after the naked guy has already heard it a million times. I'm naked, so? Everybody in the MC plays the game naked anyway, so it's not news to anyone.
Bermag	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:35:00 - [238] Originally by: ElCoCo I wish TBB goodluck! Hope whatever greedy producer hired MC "misplaces" some T2 BPO's And have fun MC...you guys are top notch (but don't win ofcourse ) It would be very interesting to know who is behind the attack(s) on TBB. But I am pretty sure it is not a T2 producer. T2 demand is so high that cutting supply of a competitor will probably not affect prices much (there is a limit how much people want to pay for a HAC). At least increased profit will not cover the cost of hiring mercs. And taking BWF will probably not affect T2 production anyway (other than maybe loosing some adv material production) If the reason is not to get the territory then my bet is that is has to do with capital ship production. If TBB is building a Titan then some alliance who is also working on building a Titan might want to destroy the production so an enemy alliance doesn't get a Titan. Just making guesses though lol. COnspiracy theories are so fun.
Riddari	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:42:00 - [239] Originally by: GoGo Yubari Originally by: Riddari My problem? Did you ever read about the Emperors clothes? If I'm pointing at someone who thinks he's wearing golden robes and I point at him and say "dude, you are not wearing clothes", which one of us has the problem? The dude walking around naked or the dude telling him he's naked? The dude continuing to say "omg you're naked lol" after the naked guy has already heard it a million times. I'm naked, so? Everybody in the MC plays the game naked anyway, so it's not news to anyone. You didn't read my quote there. Its not about being naked, I support nakedness! The morale of the story of the Emperors new clothes is not about being naked. Read it. ¼+¼ a history
Recluse Viramor	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:44:00 - [240] 2006.06.04 07:12 Mercenary Coalition has declared war on Chosen Path. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. 2006.06.06 19:21 The war between Mercenary Coalition and Chosen Path is coming to an end. Mercenary Coalition has retracted the war against Chosen Path. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours. Awe, I didn't even get a chance to log in and shoot ya Though I heard some of the fights were pretty good, some not so good

Eyeshadow	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:49:00 - [241] Riddari, stfu and ** off back to your own threads ya in *, no one here gives a toss what you think as for vandalising the shark, that is so lame its not funny. Expect vengeance zandramus and your other kiddie accomplice. Pair of **s. To the pilots of CHSN, make yourselves scarce or the war dec will be back quicker than you can say omgwtfbbq. My Latest Vid (18/04/06)
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:54:00 - [242] Originally by: Eyeshadow Riddari, stfu and ** off back to your own threads ya in *, no one here gives a toss what you think as for vandalising the shark, that is so lame its not funny. Expect vengeance zandramus and your other kiddie accomplice. Pair of **s. To the pilots of CHSN, make yourselves scarce or the war dec will be back quicker than you can say omgwtfbbq. Ahh brilliant! I was just waiting for a trademark eyeshadow post! Youve riled the beast! Prepare to die!!! Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Recluse Viramor	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:56:00 - [243] Originally by: Eyeshadow Riddari, stfu and ** off back to your own threads ya in *, no one here gives a toss what you think as for vandalising the shark, that is so lame its not funny. Expect vengeance zandramus and your other kiddie accomplice. Pair of **s. To the pilots of CHSN, make yourselves scarce or the war dec will be back quicker than you can say omgwtfbbq. Wait, wasn't the objective of the war dec to scare us off? It didn't work. It took our attention from BWF for sure, but now that its ending im sure it will go back that direction
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:57:00 - [244] Originally by: Recluse Viramor Wait, wasn't the objective of the war dec to scare us off? It didn't work. It took our attention from BWF for sure, but now that its ending im sure it will go back that direction Of course that would require you to undock, but on the off chance that you do, i will hopefully see you there My Latest Vid (18/04/06)
Recluse Viramor	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:00:00 - [245] Originally by: Eyeshadow Originally by: Recluse Viramor Wait, wasn't the objective of the war dec to scare us off? It didn't work. It took our attention from BWF for sure, but now that its ending im sure it will go back that direction Of course that would require you to undock, but on the off chance that you do, i will hopefully see you there I'm afraid that will have to wait, 12 hour shifts 4tl
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:01:00 - [246] Originally by: Recluse Viramor Originally by: Eyeshadow Riddari, stfu and ** off back to your own threads ya in *, no one here gives a toss what you think as for vandalising the shark, that is so lame its not funny. Expect vengeance zandramus and your other kiddie accomplice. Pair of **s. To the pilots of CHSN, make yourselves scarce or the war dec will be back quicker than you can say omgwtfbbq. Wait, wasn't the objective of the war dec to scare us off? It didn't work. It took our attention from BWF for sure, but now that its ending im sure it will go back that direction \|Docked in BWF or docked in Airken, you havn't and won't make a great deal of difference on this bug hunt -------------------------------------------------
Zembla	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:05:00 - [247] Tbh... KIA had some sort of tribute to it's name also, right in front of our station. Then sometime we went on a contract, it seems our targets in that region rather than fight us, shot that landmark thingy. It was a low blow in my opinion, but I quickly came to realise, that for a mercenary to be neutral, and ammoral (not immoral), he'd also need to stoically accept it when people tore down their landmarks. But that's just my opinion, maybe the shark lies closer to your hard than our landmark thingy lied to ours. I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now, but it's part of the game. <Z> Signature Removed (max dimensions 120px * 400px)and 24000 bytes. Yarr. - ReverendM([email protected]) Spread the Z
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:12:00 - [248] Edited by: Seleene on 07/06/2006 11:14:19 Originally by: Irimi Nage Seriously guys, the cans were art, regardless of the corp affiliation, if you want to go commit random acts of stupidity, please go tag murals like every other half-wit chromer. This is pretty much what it boils down to. This was something that's one of the more famous player-made structures in EVE. Hinik, the artist, is known for this sort of thing and regardless of people's feelings, it's quite the sight to players, new or old. "Funny" would have been building their own can art next to the Shark, or maybe a giant harpoon going through it or something. That has style and we could respect that. Instead, the pilots in question behaved like kids throwing toilet paper across the lawn or bashing people's mailboxes with a bat. Oh, and people need to chill with the whole "griefing noobs" nonsense. The EVE-Uni pilots we've run into in this war are not screaming, "OMFG Loser Griefers!!" in local. They are zerging the crap out of us and seem to be having a blast doing it. I know that my pilots have not engaged EVE-Uni pilots outside of the area local to BWF and the corridor leading to it. It's not our objective to grief people out of their desire to play the game we all love. We respect EVE-Uni and the role it plays in the game. TBH, I'm mostly disappointed that members of such a corp would do something like this and I'll be curious to see the official response from the EVE-Uni faculty. As for CHSN, we just felt like shaking your tree a bit, guys. Don't read too much into it. - History of the MC movie!
Kingdoc	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:14:00 - [249] Originally by: Eyeshadow as for vandalising the shark, that is so lame its not funny. Expect vengeance zandramus and your other kiddie accomplice. Pair of **s. Originally by:** Seleene If this is true, you have just elevated the status of this war to something far beyond a simple contract. Originally by: LoxyRider Seriously though thats incredibly childish, prepare to die! But then they sayààààà Originally by: Dol Amroth Last I checked there wasn't a published nor acknowledged manual of proper wartime tactics. In fact that's just the point. Some wars are made glamourous and its fortitude well-thought while others such as this are of attrition and digging down into the trenches and making of it what it simply is. So if you fight ôdown in the trenchesö itÆs ok because its war. But if someone messes with something you feel is important during that same war you take it personal? TBB guerilla warfare tactic perfectly strikes MCÆs ego, wrecking it for untold damage. ------------------------------------- Unnerf boobies! / boost e-penor!
Zandramus	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:22:00 - [250] Boo Freeking Hoo ... Waaaahhhhhh Im sorry but who declared on who, You want to go around under the pretense of a contract just so you can shoot noob friggates and make yourselves out to be all that. Well maybe you should have thought about the consequences beforehand. Your shark image is a legitimate war target. If you just wanted to go around the eve universe creating can spam you should have stayed in a noob corp. And to Selene, you are the biggest fake in this whole game, you elevate yourt importance under guise of being contracted to war declare on an alliance when we all know that the contracts are just your excuse to go shoot noobs you are so pathetic, so I say Boo Freeking Hoo to you and have a nice day. Zandramus sigs bugged :(

Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:26:00 - [251] Originally by: Kingdoc So if you fight ôdown in the trenchesö itÆs ok because its war. But if someone messes with something you feel is important during that same war you take it personal? TBB guerilla warfare tactic perfectly strikes MCÆs ego, wrecking it for untold damage. The Shark has been there for a long time. Everyone knows it. We've fought more wars than I can remember ATM and no one else has done something like this. What do you think the Amarr Empire would do to someone who blew up that big statue thing outside the Emperor Family station in Amarr, m8? I doubt they'd be happy about it. - History of the MC movie!
Thalera Saldana	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:28:00 - [252] Originally by: Zandramus Boo Freeking Hoo ... Waaaahhhhhh And to Selene, you are the biggest fake in this whole game, you elevate yourt importance under guise of being contracted to war declare on an alliance when we all know that the contracts are just your excuse to go shoot noobs you are so pathetic, so I say Boo Freeking Hoo to you and have a nice day. Zandramus Says the person whose latest kill is someone from the State War Academy piloting an Ibis??!! Perhaps you should take a look at who is the griefing vandal and who actually adds content to this game for themselves and others
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:28:00 - [253] Originally by: Zandramus And to Selene, you are the biggest fake in this whole game, you elevate yourt importance under guise of being contracted to war declare on an alliance when we all know that the contracts are just your excuse to go shoot noobs you are so pathetic LOL!!! Okay. - History of the MC movie!
Alessia Karan	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:30:00 - [254] Originally by: Marie Elise So how was that beheaded or what.. i just dont see it Can we get a before and after pic? or maybe some background story to the shark and what not Same here Anybody got a before picture
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:32:00 - [255] Originally by: Thalera Saldana Originally by: Zandramus Boo Freeking Hoo ... Waaaahhhhhh And to Selene, you are the biggest fake in this whole game, you elevate yourt importance under guise of being contracted to war declare on an alliance when we all know that the contracts are just your excuse to go shoot noobs you are so pathetic, so I say Boo Freeking Hoo to you and have a nice day. Zandramus Says the person whose latest kill is someone from the State War Academy piloting an Ibis??!! Perhaps you should take a look at who is the griefing vandal and who actually adds content to this game for themselves and others Was just about to say that Also Zandramus wasnt it you going round killing noobs mining in Jita? The whole TBB are noobs thing is getting very old, yes the vast majority of Eve-Uni are newer players but they have put up more of a fight than some of the so called PVP alliances out there, so really give it a rest.
Payne Bringer	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:32:00 - [256] Originally by: Alessia Karan Originally by: Marie Elise So how was that beheaded or what.. i just dont see it Can we get a before and after pic? or maybe some background story to the shark and what not Same here Anybody got a before picture http://myeve.eve-online.com/screenshots/screenshot.asp?size=originals&screenID=8787
Zandramus	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:32:00 - [257] Edited by: Zandramus on 07/06/2006 11:34:32 Edited by: Zandramus on 07/06/2006 11:32:44 Originally by: Thalera Saldana Originally by: Zandramus Boo Freeking Hoo ... Waaaahhhhhh And to Selene, you are the biggest fake in this whole game, you elevate yourt importance under guise of being contracted to war declare on an alliance when we all know that the contracts are just your excuse to go shoot noobs you are so pathetic, so I say Boo Freeking Hoo to you and have a nice day. Zandramus Says the person whose latest kill is someone from the State War Academy piloting an Ibis??!! Perhaps you should take a look at who is the griefing vandal and who actually adds content to this game for themselves and others Linkage sigs bugged wts a clue sigs bugged :(
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:34:00 - [258] Originally by: Alessia Karan Originally by: Marie Elise So how was that beheaded or what.. i just dont see it Can we get a before and after pic? or maybe some background story to the shark and what not Same here Anybody got a before picture BEFORE AFTER - History of the MC movie!
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:34:00 - [259] MC will always have KIAs heart, they are as about close to KIAs mentality in game as a corp gets, but I hope the TBB come thorugh this unscathed. What TBB do for the Tech 2 market, is bring it to the masses at reasonable prices, NO ONE else is doing this, and for this and this only I hope they make it through with BWF still under their control. The greedy peeps that hired MC to take down TBB, no doubt hoping to gain more control over the pricing of tech 2 goods, should just crawl away and hide thier faces. Tbh, it would take months of solid siege and warfare to take BWF from them, I have seen their POS setup, and if dreads were deployed, then a lot more of eves more unsavoury characters might like the opportunity to bag some Capital ship kills. Un beknown to most of the circles, KIA has a good many alts in TBB, and have a very good relationship with them, and I hear the grapevine, that this war is fun for both sides, with respect and honmour shown at every battle. This is the way it should be, and only respected entities like MC can ever bring this to the field. The ruining of the Shark Artwork, is petty and stupid. As mentioned b4, next time get some style and have the thing Harpooned, I'm sure MC would of respected hat time an deffort and allowed it to stand for at least the length of the war, what you have done is just plain childish, and an apology is more than warranted. Other than that Hf MC, but GL TBB, a lot of freinds are watching with keen interest. KIA Piccys
Gail	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:36:00 - [260] Edited by: Gail on 07/06/2006 11:36:42 The Original for ne1 who wants to see the original. and MC im sorry to say that no matter how much i respect you as an alliance, im sure it was you who said "if its red it must die". You shoot eve-u noobs because they show red, they shot cans as they where red. Shooting cans is not something i would do, but then agiain i wouldnt wardec an allaince like 'tbb' edit: lol 5 posts whilst i uploaded this :p -------------------------------------

Miramax	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:40:00 - [261] whoever came up with the idea to behead the shark,thats the **** seriously props forever to you
Zandramus	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:42:00 - [262] Edited by: Zandramus on 07/06/2006 11:47:26 Originally by: Emsigma To bad one of the few landsmarks that eve has was destroyed in this way no matter who it belonged to. It would have saddened me as much if it was a BB, BOB, SA or CI landmark. It was placed there as art and for people to watch but someone decided that their game time was more worth destroying art than helping their alliance. I bet the real Zandramus would be happy to see what you are doing in his name. The real Zandramus is ahsamed of what a smelly Poofter you have become. To Irrilian no need to interview us it was us who did this this is war mc's got more isk then anyone except like naga and killing their ships was not just enough so if im going to be punished then let it be. sigs bugged :(
Irrilian	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:42:00 - [263] Hello, May I first take this opportunity to apologise for this act of vandalism apparently conducted by two Eve University students. Neither Eve University nor The Big Blue would sanction such an act against a work of art, a public monument, something someone has invested time in for others to share. Currently Eve University is launching an internal investigation to get to the root of this incident, hopefully we will be able to interview the students whom are apparently involved. Unfortunately no member of EU staff/TBB official has had the opportunity to visit the shark to verify the vandalism. However I hope you can understand though why some of our students may have feel motivated to pull of such an act of defiance against MC, as I imagine such may have been the motivation rather than simply petty vandalism. Whomever is responsible, after the hostilities between MC and TBB have ceased may I extend a personal offer to help to restore the shark to his former glory. Eve University will never condone acts of Vandalism, Theft, or Piracy. - - - The Big Blue, ôExodus realised.ö
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:45:00 - [264] Originally by: Irrilian Hello, May I first take this opportunity to apologise for this act of vandalism apparently conducted by two Eve University students. Neither Eve University nor The Big Blue would sanction such an act against a work of art, a public monument, something someone has invested time in for others to share. Currently Eve University is launching an internal investigation to get to the root of this incident, hopefully we will be able to interview the students whom are apparently involved. Unfortunately no member of EU staff/TBB official has had the opportunity to visit the shark to verify the vandalism. However I hope you can understand though why some of our students may have feel motivated to pull of such an act of defiance against MC, as I imagine such may have been the motivation rather than simply petty vandalism. Whomever is responsible, after the hostilities between MC and TBB have ceased may I extend a personal offer to help to restore the shark to his former glory. Eve University will never condone acts of Vandalism, Theft, or Piracy. I expected nothing less of your corp, Irrilian. The above is much more in line with what people have come to expect from EVE-Uni. Thank you for the response and we'll be in contact with you directly soon. - History of the MC movie!
LoxyRider	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:49:00 - [265] Some real idiots around here. This is a game. Some people on both sides need to chill the ** out. Frankly Im enjoying this contract, BB have been good opponents and have shown a lot more courage then I and others really expected so well done to them and I hope this carrys on. The Shark; its really simple here. The shark was just a fantastic bit of art work, a landscape piece in the eve universe. Thats it. To say that it has survived all this time through many wars in which it could have been destroyed I think says it all, it shouldnt have been touched. What was done was silly, childish and if I were in Eve Uni I would be ashamed of the members** who did it. What does it change? Nothing. We are annoyed simple as that, while everyone else we have fought respected it or never even thought of destroying it we now have someone who did. We will proberly give extra attention to those pilots to make sure we get some revenge but thats it. Disapointed in those players covers it. The contract; Its on Big Blue, not Eve University. We respect what they do and we have not gone out of our way to hurt that corp any more then we need to so we can complete our contract. Big Blue is a powerfull industrial alliance and is a perfectly resonable military target for someone with the money. To say we are here to simply greif noobs is ridiculous. Again some people need to get their head out their asses. Riddari well done, you scored your deux points you can go cross that off the list of your daily accomplishments, I hope your life is now more fulfilled.
Alexison	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:52:00 - [266] I lol'd
LoxyRider	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:53:00 - [267] Originally by: Irrilian Hello, May I first take this opportunity to apologise for this act of vandalism apparently conducted by two Eve University students. Neither Eve University nor The Big Blue would sanction such an act against a work of art, a public monument, something someone has invested time in for others to share. Currently Eve University is launching an internal investigation to get to the root of this incident, hopefully we will be able to interview the students whom are apparently involved. Unfortunately no member of EU staff/TBB official has had the opportunity to visit the shark to verify the vandalism. However I hope you can understand though why some of our students may have feel motivated to pull of such an act of defiance against MC, as I imagine such may have been the motivation rather than simply petty vandalism. Whomever is responsible, after the hostilities between MC and TBB have ceased may I extend a personal offer to help to restore the shark to his former glory. Eve University will never condone acts of Vandalism, Theft, or Piracy. This thread is moving damn quickly heh. Thank you for your level headed response, shows Eve Uni again as being a very respectable corp.
Equinox II	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:59:00 - [268] Congratulations, you just vandalized one of the best player made work of art in the game. You destroyed a monument in eve like a 14 year old kid running around in real life spraying grafitti all over the place. I really held eve-players higher than this, but I guess not. The only question now is, how low will we sink? As low as the WoW people? I heard a story from WoW not long ago, this guild was having a memorial for one of their members that had died in real life, they actually had the dead players character logged on as a last good bye. Then, out of the blue came another guild which had planned to trash the memorial - and they did, big time. They even killed the dead players character, and most of the people attending his memorial.... Also, not long ago I heard about someone trashing a can art made in memory of a dead player in Eve. I heard about it ingame, so it's unconfirmed. But, if it's true, how low can we really sink? I ask you dear eve players, are we really this respectless? ... dissapointed equi signing out.. VIDS: Raven Showdown \| Contraband Inc \| Rogue Titan
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:01:00 - [269] Originally by: Zandramus Boo Freeking Hoo ... Waaaahhhhhh Im sorry but who declared on who, You want to go around under the pretense of a contract just so you can shoot noob friggates and make yourselves out to be all that. Well maybe you should have thought about the consequences beforehand. Your shark image is a legitimate war target. If you just wanted to go around the eve universe creating can spam you should have stayed in a noob corp. And to Selene, you are the biggest fake in this whole game, you elevate yourt importance under guise of being contracted to war declare on an alliance when we all know that the contracts are just your excuse to go shoot noobs you are so pathetic, so I say Boo Freeking Hoo to you and have a nice day. Zandramus Your true quality (or lack of) shines through. This war has been a lot of fun for both sides but you have to lower the tone by acting like a tard. It's your perogative of course. You pay your subs and play your way but perhaps you are best off back in pencil protectors griefing noobs on cheap wardecs? Nice sniping last night btw
Exploding Fist	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:05:00 - [270] Originally by: Alexison I lol'd Me too But on a serious note. Sucks.

Omber Zombie	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:05:00 - [271] Originally by: Zandramus garbage While you were spending time defacing this artwork how many of your corpmates died defending your home? All I can say is you are lucky that I am no longer a member of eve-uni. This is one of the rare, hell only, times I have wanted to pod a corp member. Not only have you made a fool of yourself, but you've tarnished the name of a great institution in eve. ----------------------
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:05:00 - [272] Just as a random comment... People who are not a part of this war seem to have a very interesting (low) opinion of BB and thier abilities. We didn't take this job because we thought it'd be easy. We took it because it looked like a nice challange. The "n00bs" in question cost us fifteen battleships when we jumped outnumbered into a lagged-out, bubble-infested inferno of death in BWF on Saturday night. Yes, we killed more of them and held the gate at the end, but it's still the most costly "victory" I've ever been a part of in MC... BB is doing just fine, folks, and quite a lot of them have told us they are enjoying this test of thier resolve. - History of the MC movie!
Marie Elise	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:11:00 - [273] So where was this shark at? O.o? And how is it related to the MC? I'm undeniably curious as to the backstory regarding this little artwork /me kinda started Eve less than 3 months ago /me sighs.
Emsigma	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:15:00 - [274] Fricking Sharks with friggin' laser beams [FRICK] has a Shark as their logo and a long long time ago one of their members made the whole logo made out of anchored cans for everyone to see in Josameto Since that time it has been considered to be one of EVE's landmarks alongside the Amarr memorial statue, the black monolith, the eve gate and such things.
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:17:00 - [275] Yay...I now get to harrass students...I feel like a nun :P //Rec ----------- Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39 We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
Marie Elise	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:20:00 - [276] Originally by: Recluse XXX Yay...I now get to harrass students...I feel like a nun :P //Rec ----------- That'd be a priest, not a nun And thanks for the History lesson on the Sharks Ems..
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:20:00 - [277] Tbh i think this is very funny, very apt for both sides really.. Sounds exactly the type of prank featured in hugh amounts of "uni escapade" films from 80's 90's.. and MC are playing the uptight headmaster to a tee... and if merc corps take contracts against industrial and starter corps.. they should really expect someone to be inventive enuff to think of a way to annoy them which doesnt involve standing toe to toe with them, in a warship..
GoGo Yubari	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:21:00 - [278] Originally by: Omber Zombie Originally by: Zandramus garbage While you were spending time defacing this artwork how many of your corpmates died defending your home? Pwnd. My thought on the beheading is that it makes no sense to take fighting mercs to a personal level by doing something like this. It may **** off some people, but we're not going to start fighting any worse in this war because somebody might be going berserk. Instead, we might consider retaliation beyond the constraints of the given contract.
Zandramus	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:24:00 - [279] o btw im assuming im going to have to post this sooner or later My allaince had nothing todo with this i saw a local shark in josamoto and was reading his corp description and was like why wtf ive heard of this seen pictures of this and im finally here and i might as well go see it. so i went and it look cool how all the cans were flashing red so i started talking about it in alliance chat then my good friend super twinkey69 posted in we should kill it so i called him up and we set out todo it you mc alt spies should be able to find these in ur recorded alliance chat logs for 6-5-06 you can even ask the couple alliance mates who dropped in our ts and we wouldnt give details to what we were doing except for we got a surprise for you just wait a bit sigs bugged :(
Alorin Tye	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:24:00 - [280] Edited by: Alorin Tye on 07/06/2006 12:24:58 I've personally had fun from this war great learning curve, although it appears us euro's miss out on most of the fun, probably beacuse MC is generally made up of people from across the pond. What I would like to know is why doesn't someone just fix the shark? ???

Yarek Balear	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:28:00 - [281] Edited by: Yarek Balear on 07/06/2006 12:28:52 I know the GMs try and keep things fair and balanced and all that, and I respect this position normally, but this is one situation where you wish they'd be able to put the cans back the way they were and temp-ban the muppet that moved them - just out of a lack of dignity.
H00KER	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:29:00 - [282] Edited by: H00KER on 07/06/2006 12:34:41 I think this shark thing is the most interesting thing to have come out of the forums for as long as I have read them. I just cant decide where I stand on it. Times I think good on them, then I swing back to maybe it was a crappy thing to do. I have swung back and forth more times than I care to think. Whilst it is true that its a great monument and its always sad to see something that may give others enjoyment destroyed, exactly how is the time invested in its creation any different to the time invested in the purchase and deployment of the blue pill. I dare say the blue pill has given many many more people within eve more enjoyment and real profit and tangible gain than the shark ever has or could do, if restored and stood till the end of time. Yet, the fact remains YOU want to destroy it. How is the shark any different to the battleship some guy grafted to buy? Simple fact it isnt. The MC have chosen a path in Eve that involves inflicting pain and suffering on others, your banner said as much. Dont play the comedy card on me, I know the jokes behind it, and I appreciate them, but the fact remains you want to inflict suffering and whoever bobbed down to your offices and paid your fee wants you to do that as well. Would I have done it to the shark, I dont know, probably not. More due to time and priority than any sense of morality, but the fact is it was and for you to get offended by it is naive in my opinion. Your opponents over the years have spent many hours fixing the damage youve done, unfortunately after this campaign your going to have to choke down one of those big ole pills and do the same. Regardless, I wish you both the best of luck, and hope the outcome leaves both standing. Although I have never crossed paths with any of the MC for good or ill, I know that many of TBB are good people and for those saying they gouge on prices, youre insane. Sure they make a good whack but look what being in the business has caused them, they now need that cash. The waits on NAGA ships show just how competetive their pricing is. If TBB and the Pill go down, just wait and see what your next HAC costs you. Hooks
Emsigma	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:30:00 - [283] Originally by: thoth foc and if merc corps take contracts against industrial and starter corps.. they should really expect someone to be inventive enuff to think of a way to annoy them which doesnt involve standing toe to toe with them, in a warship.. I think it has been mentioned before, but TBB are not a bunch or starters or noobs. Besides.. Zandramus main account and Super Twinky69 has been griefers/pirates since 1 year ago, so to say that they are frustrated noobs is really just something grasped out of thin air. I must admit though that I find the concept of defacing the shark pretty funny. If it only had been a serious attempt instead (put legs on it, harpooned it, even put floppy ears on it).
Julien Derida	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:33:00 - [284] Originally by: Alorin Tye What I would like to know is why doesn't someone just fix the shark? ??? It's not really that simple. Making can good can art on this scale takes a lot of time and effort. IIRC Hinik spent a whole weekend of 12hr days making this originally. Fixing it will take a significant amount of effort. ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:36:00 - [285] Originally by: Emsigma Originally by: thoth foc and if merc corps take contracts against industrial and starter corps.. they should really expect someone to be inventive enuff to think of a way to annoy them which doesnt involve standing toe to toe with them, in a warship.. I think it has been mentioned before, but TBB are not a bunch or starters or noobs. Besides.. Zandramus main account and Super Twinky69 has been griefers/pirates since 1 year ago, so to say that they are frustrated noobs is really just something grasped out of thin air. Most of TBB are industrial, and EU helps new players start.. and i never referred to any of them as noobs..
Lowa	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:39:00 - [286] Lame. /LOWA NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
TheTaintedOne	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:42:00 - [287] Edited by: TheTaintedOne on 07/06/2006 12:47:27 Edited by: TheTaintedOne on 07/06/2006 12:45:07 Art is (or should be) above matters such as war, its loss is a loss to the eve community as a whole and not just MC.
Spartan239	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:44:00 - [288] Pointless and lame, what do you achieve by defacing something that one man spent hours and hours working on? Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:46:00 - [289] As apoint of interest a story and pictures of the can art appeared in national publications, incuding PC Gamer (UK), as such this PR brings people to the game, and ideal which one would have assumed EU would support and champion, not destroy -------------------------------------------------
Aliterus	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:46:00 - [290] Originally by: H00KER Edited by: H00KER on 07/06/2006 12:34:41 I think this shark thing is the most interesting thing to have come out of the forums for as long as I have read them. I just cant decide where I stand on it. Times I think good on them, then I swing back to maybe it was a crappy thing to do. I have swung back and forth more times than I care to think. Whilst it is true that its a great monument and its always sad to see something that may give others enjoyment destroyed, exactly how is the time invested in its creation any different to the time invested in the purchase and deployment of the blue pill. I dare say the blue pill has given many many more people within eve more enjoyment and real profit and tangible gain than the shark ever has or could do, if restored and stood till the end of time. Yet, the fact remains YOU want to destroy it. How is the shark any different to the battleship some guy grafted to buy? Simple fact it isnt. The MC have chosen a path in Eve that involves inflicting pain and suffering on others, your banner said as much. Dont play the comedy card on me, I know the jokes behind it, and I appreciate them, but the fact remains you want to inflict suffering and whoever bobbed down to your offices and paid your fee wants you to do that as well. Would I have done it to the shark, I dont know, probably not. More due to time and priority than any sense of morality, but the fact is it was and for you to get offended by it is naive in my opinion. Your opponents over the years have spent many hours fixing the damage youve done, unfortunately after this campaign your going to have to choke down one of those big ole pills and do the same. Regardless, I wish you both the best of luck, and hope the outcome leaves both standing. Although I have never crossed paths with any of the MC for good or ill, I know that many of TBB are good people and for those saying they gouge on prices, youre insane. Sure they make a good whack but look what being in the business has caused them, they now need that cash. The waits on NAGA ships show just how competetive their pricing is. If TBB and the Pill go down, just wait and see what your next HAC costs you. Hooks This posting is far to good to be posted on the Eve forums. You might scare people away (but most likely it will be ignored). /me salutes Hooker.

Manas	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:52:00 - [291] It has the form of the classic University prank, but the golden rule is no permanant damage. So shaving the opposing team's pet mascot: good, serving him for dinner: bad. This may have strayed into the second catagory. MC usually sets a high standard with their needling war dec posters. Pranksters need to strive to reach their level of cleverness.
H00KER	Posted - 2006.06.07 12:54:00 - [292] Originally by: Aliterus This posting is far to good to be posted on the Eve forums. You might scare people away (but most likely it will be ignored). /me salutes Hooker. Wow, you must really like run on sentences , that apart though thank you for the props, I hope it doesnt get ignored Id really like to hear a MC take on my thoughts. Hooks
Alorin Tye	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:13:00 - [293] Edited by: Alorin Tye on 07/06/2006 13:14:02 Ok, but it is still only the head? The bulk of it is still fine?? Oh yes it will take effort to rectify, maybe an hour or so. However you have the before and after pictures? So you know where the cans go etc. Being relatively new I have to say that the reaction of MC and many people on this board has put me slightly of the game, This is my first MM online game, and had been enjoying it, but I have now in my minds eye people in team speak getting het up and screaming at each other like those video's of gamers having tantrums. Its rather sad, I also get the impression that the reaction from MC is that because you made this that it is off limits, are you therefore saying that anything you produce for public demonstration is thus off limits. Should that be the case? Are you saying that in the eve universe your alliance thatÆs primary purpose is to declare war on other alliances for monetary gain has a monument that is in essence for the demonstration of your power in the game although by game rules is a legitimate target in time of war is off limits! You have also stated that you are generally annoyed because the shark is an icon and eve universe landmark, its for the public! Irrelevant that the shark becomes a target when you declare war? Thus you are once again self-proclaiming that youÆre a group that now holds iconic status within the game as you own structures that ôare not allowed to be tampered withö Please donÆt try to say but its as old as the hills or its for the benefit of the eve universe, it is still currently a landmark to yourselves. If that is the case then may I make the suggestion that you take the role of an iconic institution and remain static or was there meant to be some sort of unwritten rule that the shark was off limits? I find its tantamount to a ridiculous amount of self indulgence and arrogance that you can start a tirade of what seems like public anger and generalisation of people with insults of childish, immaturity etc what a load of Hypocritical crap. Therefore I will finally say then you should then transfer the ownership of the structure to a completely neutral corporation. a)It wonÆt happen, And as you state b)The structure will be exempt from hostile acts for the public to enjoy as you so emphatically claim its primary purpose is. However if you do not wish to do that because you want to make sure that others know æyouÆ built this. Then its fair game in war for objects to be destroyed and itÆs a risk you have to put up with.
Emno	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:13:00 - [294] tbh all the whining isn't going to do you any good you're just showing an easy way you can be badly hurt...
Exploding Fist	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:14:00 - [295] Originally by: Draximus Cane As apoint of interest a story and pictures of the can art appeared in national publications, incuding PC Gamer (UK), as such this PR brings people to the game, and ideal which one would have assumed EU would support and champion, not destroy Tho a bit funny, its also dumb. As mentioned further up, this would probably happened sooner or later. Maybe those 2 guys doing this wasnt noobs, but the majority of TBB is industrials. Lots of the corps/alliances that MC gets contracts on are industrial based. Spending a whole weekend creating this nice monument is nothing compared to the weeks that many have to work to recuperate from MC's devastating blows. MC claim that its "just" a contract. No hard feelings. Its a game. But dont forget the amount of pain and anger u inflict on ur targets. They have the right to be angry on you. Even if its just a game. Feelings are feelings and you just cant toss them away cause your playing a game. So this kind of acts is, in its own sense, justifiable. You ruin something. They ruin something. As for the quote: Dont blame the act of 2 ppl on whole EU and TBB. They have already posted their official response to this. As in rl, vandalism will happen ingame. And do not say that rl has nothing to do in this game. Look at how ppl react in this thread. That is real feelings. Ppl react with anger when monuments and symbols get destroyed. In a couple of weeks, ppl will have forgotten about it. Unfortunately.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:14:00 - [296] Edited by: Seleene on 07/06/2006 13:16:24 Originally by: H00KER Originally by: Aliterus This posting is far to good to be posted on the Eve forums. You might scare people away (but most likely it will be ignored). /me salutes Hooker. Wow, you must really like run on sentences , that apart though thank you for the props, I hope it doesnt get ignored Id really like to hear a MC take on my thoughts. Hooks Hooker, it was a very good post. I agree that this does add quite a bit of drama to the situation. In one way, it's one of the things that makes this game great. Things like this show the best and worst of people. While the MC is "dedicated to bringing pain to others", we've also always tried to keep things within certian boundries. I suppose it was only a matter of time before something like this happened and now it's served to kick things up a notch for both sides. If nothing else, the comming weekend should be very interesting. Originally by: Alorin Tye interesting post M8, it will take more than an hour to fix. Regardless, it's not something that requires a lot of explaination or examination. It was just lame and we're ****ed. - History of the MC movie!
Farjung	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:15:00 - [297] The new cans were placed by a noob corp alt, so can not be removed unless by GM intervention. So fixing it is not actually possible through regularly accessible means. --- Wave of Mutilation 2
Equinox II	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:16:00 - [298] Originally by: H00KER How is the shark any different to the battleship some guy grafted to buy? Simple fact it isnt. A battleship is mass-produced, it can easily be replaced if destroyed, you can get one exactly like it.. An outpost can't be destroyed, and even if it could be, then there are many just like it around the world of eve. The shark is/was art, it was unique, there wasn't anything like it in Eve, and there will never be anything exactly the same as it again. As Emsigma said, adding something to it, like harponing it, that would be funny. Destroying it isn't, it's just lame.. That's my view on it anyway.. VIDS: Raven Showdown \| Contraband Inc \| Rogue Titan
Jin Entres	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:22:00 - [299] Originally by: H00KER Edited by: H00KER on 07/06/2006 12:34:41 I think this shark thing is the most interesting thing to have come out of the forums for as long as I have read them. I just cant decide where I stand on it. Times I think good on them, then I swing back to maybe it was a crappy thing to do. I have swung back and forth more times than I care to think. Whilst it is true that its a great monument and its always sad to see something that may give others enjoyment destroyed, exactly how is the time invested in its creation any different to the time invested in the purchase and deployment of the blue pill. I dare say the blue pill has given many many more people within eve more enjoyment and real profit and tangible gain than the shark ever has or could do, if restored and stood till the end of time. Yet, the fact remains YOU want to destroy it. How is the shark any different to the battleship some guy grafted to buy? Simple fact it isnt. The MC have chosen a path in Eve that involves inflicting pain and suffering on others, your banner said as much. Dont play the comedy card on me, I know the jokes behind it, and I appreciate them, but the fact remains you want to inflict suffering and whoever bobbed down to your offices and paid your fee wants you to do that as well. Would I have done it to the shark, I dont know, probably not. More due to time and priority than any sense of morality, but the fact is it was and for you to get offended by it is naive in my opinion. Your opponents over the years have spent many hours fixing the damage youve done, unfortunately after this campaign your going to have to choke down one of those big ole pills and do the same. Regardless, I wish you both the best of luck, and hope the outcome leaves both standing. Although I have never crossed paths with any of the MC for good or ill, I know that many of TBB are good people and for those saying they gouge on prices, youre insane. Sure they make a good whack but look what being in the business has caused them, they now need that cash. The waits on NAGA ships show just how competetive their pricing is. If TBB and the Pill go down, just wait and see what your next HAC costs you. Hooks We inflict suffering and destruction, but thrive to do so in an enjoyable way to all parties involved. Our intentions are not to cause grief to any players, but to inflict damage upon characters and factions. Anyone not enjoying playing the game it is intended should simply not play. Destroying the shark art yields no reward, no thrill of a fight, destruction of an asset or such. It is much closer to causing grief to players to whom it meant something beyond ISK than anything we have done. I hope you grasp the difference. P.S. The harpoon idea would've been funny. ---
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:23:00 - [300] Originally by: H00KER Originally by: Aliterus Wow, you must really like run on sentences , that apart though thank you for the props, I hope it doesnt get ignored Id really like to hear a MC take on my thoughts. Hooks Lets compare EvE to chess. Blowing up a ship in EvE is like taking an opposing players piece. Shooting the shark art is like throwing a fit and taking the chessboard and throwing it at your opponent. It's childish and lacks class.

zincol	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:25:00 - [301] Originally by: KIAEddZ MC will always have KIAs heart, they are as about close to KIAs mentality in game as a corp gets, but I hope the TBB come thorugh this unscathed. What TBB do for the Tech 2 market, is bring it to the masses at reasonable prices, NO ONE else is doing this, and for this and this only I hope they make it through with BWF still under their control. The greedy peeps that hired MC to take down TBB, no doubt hoping to gain more control over the pricing of tech 2 goods, should just crawl away and hide thier faces. Tbh, it would take months of solid siege and warfare to take BWF from them, I have seen their POS setup, and if dreads were deployed, then a lot more of eves more unsavoury characters might like the opportunity to bag some Capital ship kills. Un beknown to most of the circles, KIA has a good many alts in TBB, and have a very good relationship with them, and I hear the grapevine, that this war is fun for both sides, with respect and honmour shown at every battle. This is the way it should be, and only respected entities like MC can ever bring this to the field. The ruining of the Shark Artwork, is petty and stupid. As mentioned b4, next time get some style and have the thing Harpooned, I'm sure MC would of respected hat time an deffort and allowed it to stand for at least the length of the war, what you have done is just plain childish, and an apology is more than warranted. Other than that Hf MC, but GL TBB, a lot of freinds are watching with keen interest. OMG!!!1111 i had to check that EDDZ posted that twice and to make sure its really him! His post makes sence! w00t!
Kingdoc	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:28:00 - [302] Are you people frikking kidding me?!? Its cans, in space, in a videogame!!! That is not art by any sense of the word. ItÆs a shark made out of cans. How dare MC have the audacity to ***** and moan like babies when there shark is destroyed and yet they want to destroy something it took tens if not hundreds of players months to make! ôBut were under contractö, ôthis is what we doö àreal men and women do not suckle at the teat of a master, they stand on there own two feet. Now my blood is all angryà I should stop before I stuffer skin failure. ------------------------------------- Unnerf boobies! / boost e-penor!
Martinus Crimson	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:41:00 - [303] Originally by: Kingdoc load of bull**** I was waiting for this reply, and despite what you might think i'm gonna say the following : Your totally right Now, i'm gonna find you destroy all your ships and items, and pod you back to 60.000 Skillpoints What .. your whining on the forums about it ?? "Are you frikking kidding me?!? Its a Character, in space, in a Videogame!!!" I doubt you get the idea, but thats howmuch sense your post made. ----------------- ^^ Now i got my own exotic dancers, thnx Chribba
Sykosys	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:42:00 - [304] Originally by: Seleene What do you think the Amarr Empire would do to someone who blew up that big statue thing outside the Emperor Family station in Amarr, m8? I doubt they'd be happy about it. I know 1 alliance that would be more than willing to blow that statue to bits if we could
LoxyRider	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:45:00 - [305] I think MC members should now stop replying on this subject. We are annoyed and disapointed. Thats it, this doesnt hurt us, it doesnt infringe on our human rights, we just thought some things would be respected not because it was made by one of our members or associated with us but because it was a special little thing in eve. End of topic, will have to see if it can be fixed at a later stage, meanwhile back to killing .
Exploding Fist	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:45:00 - [306] Originally by: Jin Entres Originally by: H00KER Edited by: H00KER on 07/06/2006 12:34:41 I think this shark thing is the most interesting thing to have come out of the forums for as long as I have read them. I just cant decide where I stand on it. Times I think good on them, then I swing back to maybe it was a crappy thing to do. I have swung back and forth more times than I care to think. Whilst it is true that its a great monument and its always sad to see something that may give others enjoyment destroyed, exactly how is the time invested in its creation any different to the time invested in the purchase and deployment of the blue pill. I dare say the blue pill has given many many more people within eve more enjoyment and real profit and tangible gain than the shark ever has or could do, if restored and stood till the end of time. Yet, the fact remains YOU want to destroy it. How is the shark any different to the battleship some guy grafted to buy? Simple fact it isnt. The MC have chosen a path in Eve that involves inflicting pain and suffering on others, your banner said as much. Dont play the comedy card on me, I know the jokes behind it, and I appreciate them, but the fact remains you want to inflict suffering and whoever bobbed down to your offices and paid your fee wants you to do that as well. Would I have done it to the shark, I dont know, probably not. More due to time and priority than any sense of morality, but the fact is it was and for you to get offended by it is naive in my opinion. Your opponents over the years have spent many hours fixing the damage youve done, unfortunately after this campaign your going to have to choke down one of those big ole pills and do the same. Regardless, I wish you both the best of luck, and hope the outcome leaves both standing. Although I have never crossed paths with any of the MC for good or ill, I know that many of TBB are good people and for those saying they gouge on prices, youre insane. Sure they make a good whack but look what being in the business has caused them, they now need that cash. The waits on NAGA ships show just how competetive their pricing is. If TBB and the Pill go down, just wait and see what your next HAC costs you. Hooks We inflict suffering and destruction, but thrive to do so in an enjoyable way to all parties involved. Our intentions are not to cause grief to any players, but to inflict damage upon characters and factions. Anyone not enjoying playing the game it is intended should simply not play. Destroying the shark art yields no reward, no thrill of a fight, destruction of an asset or such. It is much closer to causing grief to players to whom it meant something beyond ISK than anything we have done. I hope you grasp the difference. P.S. The harpoon idea would've been funny. Well even tho i see your point, your arguments are biased. You trive to inflict destruction in an enjoyable way to all participants. And anyone not enjoying your way of fun shouldnt play the game. this is how i read it at least. No smack intended. Not everyone in this game enjoy pvp. Some ppl like production and the fact that eve gives them opportunity to do this. Then you guys come by in the name of fun, and kick them where the sun dont shine. And you guys kick hard. Even tho many of your targets enjoy pvp and have fun when you guys stop by to punch them in the face, some of them get their sense of quality time ruined, cause they dont like pvp. Their anger and revenge is as rightfull as your view of fun. But do not say that ppl shouldnt play the game cause they get angry when you attack them. Ofcourse they will be angry. Its fair! As i said. Not trying to smack this thread. I dont like the act, but i dont care much either.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:49:00 - [307] Edited by: Seleene on 07/06/2006 13:49:19 Originally by: LoxyRider I think MC members should now stop replying on this subject. We are annoyed and disapointed. Thats it, this doesnt hurt us, it doesnt infringe on our human rights, we just thought some things would be respected not because it was made by one of our members or associated with us but because it was a special little thing in eve. End of topic, will have to see if it can be fixed at a later stage, meanwhile back to killing . Agreed. EDIT - OMG, you have an England sig now?! - History of the MC movie!
maGz	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:49:00 - [308] Originally by: Jin Entres Originally by: H00KER ... We inflict suffering and destruction, but thrive to do so in an enjoyable way to all parties involved. Our intentions are not to cause grief to any players, but to inflict damage upon characters and factions. Anyone not enjoying playing the game it is intended should simply not play. Destroying the shark art yields no reward, no thrill of a fight, destruction of an asset or such. It is much closer to causing grief to players to whom it meant something beyond ISK than anything we have done. I hope you grasp the difference. P.S. The harpoon idea would've been funny. While you thrive to make your contracts as enjoyable as possible, both for you and the target, fact remains that the MC declares war to inflict as much harm on whatever target - they are told to inflict harm on - as possible. Whatever you might think; the assets you destroy will be considered causing grief to the owners, hence making the destruction of the shark just as valid as anything else done in a war. ______________________
Equinox II	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:50:00 - [309] Originally by: Kingdoc Are you people frikking kidding me?!? Its cans, in space, in a videogame!!! That is not art by any sense of the word. "Art, in its broadest meaning, is the expression of creativity or imagination, or both." How does the medium matter? Is it less arts if it's made of cans in a videogame than paintbrush strokes on a canvas? VIDS: Raven Showdown \| Contraband Inc \| Rogue Titan
Uther Doull	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:54:00 - [310] i laughed pretty hard actually :P i find it exactly the kind of prank you would expect from uni-students in general :P

Gail	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:55:00 - [311] Edited by: Gail on 07/06/2006 13:56:59 Originally by: Equinox II Originally by: Kingdoc Are you people frikking kidding me?!? Its cans, in space, in a videogame!!! That is not art by any sense of the word. "Art, in its broadest meaning, is the expression of creativity or imagination, or both." How does the medium matter? Is it less arts if it's made of cans in a videogame than paintbrush strokes on a canvas? well then by your own view; a bs, a pod, a pos - is it less art then a can? (all created by eve art team) but you still blow them up with out giving two hoots as to how much time a player has put into obtaining it. edited for spelling :) -------------------------------------
Katya Ishenka	Posted - 2006.06.07 13:57:00 - [312] PLACE KEEPER so i can keep track of this
Guybrush Treepwood	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:03:00 - [313] I'm sorry to see the shark's been vandalized. On the other hand MC are being hypocrits. I read their and BB's killboard and it doesn't look like they have been holding back on eve uni in empire at all. I am sure they have spies in eve uni to make sure that all their new guys are suspect and treated 2nd grade. In the meantime their assets are all safe behind a fat meatshield called BoB Sure I'd sell my mother for ISK but why is it that mercs don't think they are accountable for their deeds only because they get paid?
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:04:00 - [314] Originally by: zincol OMG!!!1111 i had to check that EDDZ posted that twice and to make sure its really him! His post makes sence! w00t! shhh fanboi!!!! ;) xx KIA Piccys
Equinox II	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:06:00 - [315] Originally by: Gail well then by your own view; a bs, a pod, a pos - is it less art then a can? (all created by eve art team) but you still blow them up with out giving two hoots as to how much time a player has put into obtaining it. Let's say that someone blew up a copy of mona lisa, noone cares right, it probably happens every other day. What if someone blew up the original? See the difference? The can in itself is also just a can, but put together they make up art, like different strokes of paint make up a painting. Defining art is also VERY hard, check out wikipedia for example, there are a lot of discussions around how it should be defined. Ok, last post by me :p VIDS: Raven Showdown \| Contraband Inc \| Rogue Titan
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:08:00 - [316] I see this like a i see Grafeti in real life. While thats not funny, it begs the question, is it funny in eve? I think it is quite funny for most of those not involved in the making of the shark, i chuckled at it for a moment or 2. Its just a game, and it will not put a dampener on some1s like like grafeti would in real life. However, the people that made it, and the people that it represented (All the lovely sharkies), must feel pretty upset by this, as they must have spent hours building it and countless more cherishing its greatness. To all you idiots that only see the funny side and mock MC for caring about it so much, spare a thought for the people these people. It WAS out of order, and imo, an apology should be made. Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:09:00 - [317] Originally by: Gail well then by your own view; a bs, a pod, a pos - is it less art then a can? (all created by eve art team) but you still blow them up with out giving two hoots as to how much time a player has put into obtaining it. edited for spelling :) generally Art is unique, you can hardly call a Megathron unique, or really artwork. I got 4 of them and they all look exactly the same, although I will agree they are pretty. Deforming the shark artwork, was low, very low, and an apology has come forthwith. The mentality of those defending the actions, is clear for most rational adults to see, it simply is stupidity/vandalism for no apparent reason. Much funnier owuld of been to make their own artwork depicting the sharks head being removed etc tc, they took the cheap and the easy way to make thier statement, and in doing so did nothing other than embarrass themselves and their alliance. If they had been KIA members, they would of already benn removed from our roster, I have 0 time for the children in this game, and I doubt I am alone in this sentiment. KIA Piccys
Alorin Tye	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:11:00 - [318] Edited by: Alorin Tye on 07/06/2006 14:14:48 To the "oh noes the shark made from cans had been vandalised in a computer game, im going to throw my toys out the pram" your all such a big bunch of Berties, its rather funny for all those in this game who still have their feet ground in the real world. "real world???, whats that!" Starting to think some of you need to get out a bit more. Go to a bar or pub with friends get some fresh air, it might do you some good. What I find extremely distastful is how people from MC start insulting others over it. Your the sort of people who in the real world get angry with someone cause they accidentally step on your shoe and subsequently end up with a black eye. "My god.. its distasefull," blah blah blah jesus.... Go outside you see those things with 2 arms, 2 legs and a head they are called people, the ones with two bulges on the chest they are called "women" try speak to one
wu han	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:11:00 - [319] Edited by: wu han on 07/06/2006 14:16:55 Edited by: wu han on 07/06/2006 14:11:36 Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: H00KER Originally by: Aliterus Hooks Lets compare EvE to chess. Blowing up a ship in EvE is like taking an opposing players piece. Shooting the shark art is like throwing a fit and taking the chessboard and throwing it at your opponent. It's childish and lacks class. I am quite new to EVE but the reaction of -MC- is way over the top. Agreed, the shark was nice and it took Hiink ages to make but so what? It took TBB and all the players months to get BWF-ZZ opened up to the general public not to mention the continued effort in policing the space etc. This is a war - you declared and attacked TBB, an alliance that has done more to introduce 0.0 space to new players like me. MC should have shown some honour and refused the contract. Now, 2 pilots from EVE-U decided to strike back and stick it to ya. Maybe they didn't quite appreciate the 'beauty' and 'awesomeness' of the art - who knows? If I was in their position, with my alliance being attacked, my space invaded and my friends being killed; I would want to fight back. So yeah, the shark gets it. Not too bright but am sure it felt damn good. Irrilian has given the EVE-U's official position and no doubt, the two prankster will be punished. I doubt that this was officially sanctioned by anyone from TBB senior management; but the damage is now done. Now, we have MC pilots saying that that the student's actions 'lacks class' (Deja Toris), 'Instead, we might consider retaliation beyond the constraints of the given contract'(GoGo Yubari)[WTF?] and 'Art is (or should be) above matters such as war, its loss is a loss to the eve community as a whole and not just MC'. Oh come on guys - how pretentious! Destroying TBB would be a massive loss to the EVE Community; more so than the shark! Have you considered that? Wu-han
Plutoinum	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:15:00 - [320] Originally by: Gail well then by your own view; a bs, a pod, a pos - is it less art then a can? (all created by eve art team) but you still blow them up with out giving two hoots as to how much time a player has put into obtaining it. Thanks for this rediculous comparision and proving that you understand nothing. Like deja said, this act was nothing more than throwing with chess pieces, because you hate losing in a game. So it seems to me that the guys, who destroyed the shark for no other reason than to make people angry, forgot, that it's just a video game. That showed just bad manners and lack of respect to the artist and all people who like to see 'artwork' like this.

H00KER	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:23:00 - [321] Whilst I agree that this has been done to death, I did ask specificalkly for MC thoughts so Ill post my response then let it lie, unless of course you want to respond to my responce, in which case Ill...Hmmm why am I thinking Vic and Bob right now? I still see no difference between the cans and a battleship, yes one is mass produced and can be bought easily, in that case please transfer the funds to enable me to easily replace a Rattlesnake. The ships are easy to replace, the ISK to buy them not so. The cans arent unique, they can be replaced. In fact I could do it a hell of a sight quicker than I could buy a faction Battleship. I said I wasnt sure how I felt, Im leaning pretty heavily to the it was bad side, but Im playing Devils advocate, and for you guys to get some upset I maintain is pretty naive. It was a very clever monument, first time I saw a pic I thought it was photoshopped, had no idea it was real. So while I applaud the effort that went into it, in the game youre in to expect it would be sacrosanct is and has been shown to be folly. Everyone is different that is what makes the world go round. Maybe we should intorduce a clause in the Eve EULA that if someone does something to offend another player, they simply convo a request to cease and desist. Thatd make it much more fun right? Saleene, youre right this is what makes Eve great and I suspect you more than most are seeing this for what is really is, to everyone else go have fun, rage against the injustice and rebuild it afterwards. If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breathe a word about your loss Then youll be men.
Wizie	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:23:00 - [322] I'm not sure I see a problem. Some guy spent hours building a structure that looked good and people liked. Great job, and kudos. It got defaced.... so? I've killed noobs who mined hours for there first BS, and spent real time to get it. I'm sure MC have killed plenty of noobs or non-noobs who have spent good time ingame to build/afford/use something ... I think that its the same. Its not personal.. Its a damned game. ----------------- Sig removed by some noob
Miramax	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:30:00 - [323] more drama please
Jin Entres	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:31:00 - [324] Originally by: Exploding Fist Well even tho i see your point, your arguments are biased. You trive to inflict destruction in an enjoyable way to all participants. And anyone not enjoying your way of fun shouldnt play the game. this is how i read it at least. No smack intended. Not everyone in this game enjoy pvp. Some ppl like production and the fact that eve gives them opportunity to do this. Then you guys come by in the name of fun, and kick them where the sun dont shine. And you guys kick hard. Even tho many of your targets enjoy pvp and have fun when you guys stop by to punch them in the face, some of them get their sense of quality time ruined, cause they dont like pvp. Their anger and revenge is as rightfull as your view of fun. But do not say that ppl shouldnt play the game cause they get angry when you attack them. Ofcourse they will be angry. Its fair! As i said. Not trying to smack this thread. I dont like the act, but i dont care much either. EVE is first and foremost a PvP game. Industry, economy and combat entwined into a virtual reality of diverse interaction. Even though people enjoy an aspect more than another, they need to accept the game for what it is. This means that when a character leaves their noob corp, they embrace the possibility that a player faction will enforce combat on them. On the other end of the spectrum in pure economic terms TBB ganks a lot of players every day on T2 prices, myself included. I endorse it as part of the game, although personally I enjoy blowing ships up more. Similarly killing someone in a first person shooter is not griefing - it's the method of competition. In EVE there are just a whole lot more methods, and although seemingly independent, facets of the game are not separated. Anyone who as a player claims they should be exempt from the multiple level interaction only because they concentrate on only one level is deluding him- or herself. The game offers steps and means to avoid and prevent risks (the balance of which should of course be discussed separately if not content with), but a continued lull of safety has somehow assured many that they are omitted. If someone has anger and yearns for revenge, it should be the character, not the player. ---
Suppiluliumas	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:38:00 - [325] Originally by: wu han Edited by: wu han on 07/06/2006 14:16:55 Edited by: wu han on 07/06/2006 14:11:36 Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: H00KER Originally by: Aliterus Hooks Lets compare EvE to chess. Blowing up a ship in EvE is like taking an opposing players piece. Shooting the shark art is like throwing a fit and taking the chessboard and throwing it at your opponent. It's childish and lacks class. I am quite new to EVE but the reaction of -MC- is way over the top. Agreed, the shark was nice and it took Hiink ages to make but so what? It took TBB and all the players months to get BWF-ZZ opened up to the general public not to mention the continued effort in policing the space etc. This is a war - you declared and attacked TBB, an alliance that has done more to introduce 0.0 space to new players like me. MC should have shown some honour and refused the contract. Now, 2 pilots from EVE-U decided to strike back and stick it to ya. Maybe they didn't quite appreciate the 'beauty' and 'awesomeness' of the art - who knows? If I was in their position, with my alliance being attacked, my space invaded and my friends being killed; I would want to fight back. So yeah, the shark gets it. Not too bright but am sure it felt damn good. Irrilian has given the EVE-U's official position and no doubt, the two prankster will be punished. I doubt that this was officially sanctioned by anyone from TBB senior management; but the damage is now done. Now, we have MC pilots saying that that the student's actions 'lacks class' (Deja Toris), 'Instead, we might consider retaliation beyond the constraints of the given contract'(GoGo Yubari)[WTF?] and 'Art is (or should be) above matters such as war, its loss is a loss to the eve community as a whole and not just MC'. Oh come on guys - how pretentious! Destroying TBB would be a massive loss to the EVE Community; more so than the shark! Have you considered that? Wu-han Good post! TBB and the Pill do more for the community then the shark ever has, and represents a much larger investment of people's time. MC didn't care about that when the money was waved in front of them. They're just "bringing the fun", while trying to destroy something many people have worked so hard for, and which they share with the community. Some fun.
Kingdoc	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:40:00 - [326] Originally by: Martinus Crimson Originally by: Kingdoc load of bull** I was waiting for this reply, and despite what you might think i'm gonna say the following : Your totally right Now, i'm gonna find you destroy all your ships and items, and pod you back to 60.000 Skillpoints What .. your whining on the forums about it ?? "Are you frikking kidding me?!? Its a Character, in space, in a Videogame!!!" I doubt you get the idea, but thats howmuch sense your post made. There is one difference youÆre missing. My toon and its possessions belong to one person ( A paying RL gameplayer) while the shark, as professed by your corp and alliance mates belongs to ôall of eveö. So if it makes you feel better to threaten the noob ceo of a 2 day old corp with 2 members (me and my alt, both miners), fine. Hunt me down, pod me over and over. Prove to all of eve that you, your corp, and your alliance really are just greifing noobs. Quote:** 12.12 What is harassment? Harassment is the blatant abuse heaped upon one player by another above and beyond valid game play interaction. This offense often includes the use of derogatory, HATEFUL, SLANDEROUS, or sexual comments as well as insults that pertain to religion, gender, nationality, or ethnicity. CCP has a zero tolerance for such behavior, as stated in our Terms of Service and violators may be immediately banned. ------------------------------------- Unnerf boobies! / boost e-penor!
Alorin Tye	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:45:00 - [327] Originally by: Equinox II Originally by: Gail well then by your own view; a bs, a pod, a pos - is it less art then a can? (all created by eve art team) but you still blow them up with out giving two hoots as to how much time a player has put into obtaining it. Let's say that someone blew up a copy of mona lisa, noone cares right, it probably happens every other day. What if someone blew up the original? See the difference? The can in itself is also just a can, but put together they make up art, like different strokes of paint make up a painting. Defining art is also VERY hard, check out wikipedia for example, there are a lot of discussions around how it should be defined. Ok, last post by me :p Oh My God... You just compared one of Leonardo da vinci's breakthough painting that was created during the renassaince to a computer game where some online cans have been placed to create the outline of a shark.... A child who makes a finger painting of a frog has produced "art", a monkey can produce "art" and Monet's watercolours are art. If you can't see the difference between the three, then I feel sorry for you, and maybe you do consider that depiction of a shark as "art" because thats how you percieve it. But that statement was just so stupid i think it gave me several types of cancer and bird flu.
Jin Entres	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:49:00 - [328] Originally by: Alorin Tye Originally by: Equinox II Originally by: Gail well then by your own view; a bs, a pod, a pos - is it less art then a can? (all created by eve art team) but you still blow them up with out giving two hoots as to how much time a player has put into obtaining it. Let's say that someone blew up a copy of mona lisa, noone cares right, it probably happens every other day. What if someone blew up the original? See the difference? The can in itself is also just a can, but put together they make up art, like different strokes of paint make up a painting. Defining art is also VERY hard, check out wikipedia for example, there are a lot of discussions around how it should be defined. Ok, last post by me :p Oh My God... You just compared one of Leonardo da vinci's breakthough painting that was created during the renassaince to a computer game where some online cans have been placed to create the outline of a shark.... A child who makes a finger painting of a frog has produced "art", a monkey can produce "art" and Monet's watercolours are art. If you can't see the difference between the three, then I feel sorry for you, and maybe you do consider that depiction of a shark as "art" because thats how you percieve it. But that statement was just so stupid i think it gave me several types of cancer and bird flu. Personally I think Mona Lisa is an ugly ***** and our shark was cool. How's that for subjective aesthetic value? P.S. No offense to Mona Lisa if she reads this ---
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2006.06.07 14:54:00 - [329] Edited by: KIAEddZ on 07/06/2006 14:55:04 1 last comment. Destruction of The Big Blue and thier ideals would be a trvesty of the Eve Universe, I doubt that is MC's long term goal, irrelevant of who is paying them. Should that be their goal, and should that be what they are being paid to do, then I think public outrage would be considerably more significant than what it is now. As well as many smaller corps joining the fight against the desire to force control the tech 2 market by MC's employers, we would also see some of the bigger guys taking more than a interested glance in the direction of BB home space. The big blue have fairly open controlled space, they sell Tech 2 modules at huge discount compared to other market forces, their hac prices cannot be beaten, the wait times are a clear indication of that, they have a set of ideals, that if my understanding is correct, is simply they will not be influenced or forced by others, they will remain true to their ideals, and continue to allow anyone access to Tech 2 and 0.0 space. MC are a mercenary force, lest not forget that they are also one of the most honourable forces in Eve, every move they make is well thought out and in my experience thus far, beyond repproach, I doubt taking an Entity like TBB out of the game is high on their wish lists. I have of course not been given any onfo outside of whats on display on these forums. ps My Typos rock. KIA Piccys
Suppiluliumas	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:02:00 - [330] So what are the terms of the contract? As far as anyone knows, MC is there to destroy TBB and take the Pill. No one conclusion is possible with present information. If MC wants to work themselves into a "now it's personal!111oneoneoneuno" frenzy, like some kind of stupid Steven Seagal movie, then guess what? If they do what they seem to plan to do in BWF, it already is. They can pretend it's been just business all they want. But if they do what they are paid to do in BWF and destroy everything worked for there, it's not just business anymore. The Pill means a hell of a lot more than that stupid shark.

Gail	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:03:00 - [331] Originally by: Equinox II Originally by: Gail well then by your own view; a bs, a pod, a pos - is it less art then a can? (all created by eve art team) but you still blow them up with out giving two hoots as to how much time a player has put into obtaining it. Let's say that someone blew up a copy of mona lisa, noone cares right, it probably happens every other day. What if someone blew up the original? See the difference? The can in itself is also just a can, but put together they make up art, like different strokes of paint make up a painting. Defining art is also VERY hard, check out wikipedia for example, there are a lot of discussions around how it should be defined. Ok, last post by me :p Ok then, we are agreed, a can on it own isnt art. But you say when put together its art. So a gun on its own isnt art. But when mixed together, by your theory, with other mods is that art? especially if I fit 8 cloaks to an apoc (its then unique art). Does that mean its exempt from your guns for being unique? Or are you reffering to the look of something to be art, ie cans formed to look like a shark. So a fleet of ships flying in the form of an arrow is this also exempt? basically, Even though I agree with you, MC, and most of the people posting. That this should have never of happend. It is none the less a viable target. And as you yourself have used reallife examples so shall I; During the gulf war a certain statue was ripped down because it represented the ememy. So a couple of pilots see something representing there enemy, and decide to take it down. 90% of eve wouldnt have done it, but hey its pvp. End of story. I apoligise for my english/grammer (not first language) -------------------------------------
Fred0	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:04:00 - [332] TBH this whole thread has made me chuckle a few times. FRICK as an ex pirate now merc corp should expect nothing less than their art to get tampered with and saying anything else just depicts a semi-retarded view of how this game works. It was inevitable.
Wizie	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:05:00 - [333] Originally by: Alorin Tye Originally by: Equinox II Originally by: Gail well then by your own view; a bs, a pod, a pos - is it less art then a can? (all created by eve art team) but you still blow them up with out giving two hoots as to how much time a player has put into obtaining it. Let's say that someone blew up a copy of mona lisa, noone cares right, it probably happens every other day. What if someone blew up the original? See the difference? The can in itself is also just a can, but put together they make up art, like different strokes of paint make up a painting. Defining art is also VERY hard, check out wikipedia for example, there are a lot of discussions around how it should be defined. Ok, last post by me :p Oh My God... You just compared one of Leonardo da vinci's breakthough painting that was created during the renassaince to a computer game where some online cans have been placed to create the outline of a shark.... A child who makes a finger painting of a frog has produced "art", a monkey can produce "art" and Monet's watercolours are art. If you can't see the difference between the three, then I feel sorry for you, and maybe you do consider that depiction of a shark as "art" because thats how you percieve it. But that statement was just so stupid i think it gave me several types of cancer and bird flu. Just keeping to RL analogies. I think if you blew up Leonardo.... and podded his medieval self and he lost some sp at the local cloning vat.. OR you blew up his painting. I think that you should get heavier penalties for podding the poor sod than for the silly piece of art. ----------------- Sig removed by some noob
Trana LaSalle	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:13:00 - [334] Hmmmm. Interesting turn of events. Hey, MC, if you had known going in that the shark was to be a war target would you have still declared war on TBB? Contract or shark art? hmmmm tootles
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:13:00 - [335] All is fair in love and war. Deal with it. Place new cans or whatever. As a sidenote, you can be fairly sure every new contract of yours is going to pull a similar stunt, just because it ****es you off so much.
Too Kind	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:14:00 - [336] This incident shows that some people have a similar view on eve and some have not. Seems that it's also a matter of opinion, who needs to get out to breeze some fresh air. We have accepted pvp, ship losses etc. as part of the game. Even if we'd lose stuff to MC our whoever, we wouldn't feel enough anger to destroy something like the shark artwork. We are not directing our anger at some artwork to **** people off, we are still relaxed enough to see it as an artwork. And you tell us to get out more. Interesting. -------------------------- Post with your main !!!111
Alorin Tye	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:14:00 - [337] Originally by: Wizie Originally by: Alorin Tye Originally by: Equinox II Originally by: Gail well then by your own view; a bs, a pod, a pos - is it less art then a can? (all created by eve art team) but you still blow them up with out giving two hoots as to how much time a player has put into obtaining it. Let's say that someone blew up a copy of mona lisa, noone cares right, it probably happens every other day. What if someone blew up the original? See the difference? The can in itself is also just a can, but put together they make up art, like different strokes of paint make up a painting. Defining art is also VERY hard, check out wikipedia for example, there are a lot of discussions around how it should be defined. Ok, last post by me :p Oh My God... You just compared one of Leonardo da vinci's breakthough painting that was created during the renassaince to a computer game where some online cans have been placed to create the outline of a shark.... A child who makes a finger painting of a frog has produced "art", a monkey can produce "art" and Monet's watercolours are art. If you can't see the difference between the three, then I feel sorry for you, and maybe you do consider that depiction of a shark as "art" because thats how you percieve it. But that statement was just so stupid i think it gave me several types of cancer and bird flu. Just keeping to RL analogies. I think if you blew up Leonardo.... and podded his medieval self and he lost some sp at the local cloning vat.. OR you blew up his painting. I think that you should get heavier penalties for podding the poor sod than for the silly piece of art. erm... pardon??? You do realise that Leonardo was real.... and im trying really hard but stuggling to understand what point your trying to make.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:19:00 - [338] I would just like to thank the members of EVE-Uni who have spammed my inbox this afternoon with apologies over the "Shark Incident". It's smoothed a lot of ruffled feathers and we appreciate it. - History of the MC movie!
Wizie	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:19:00 - [339] Originally by: Alorin Tye Originally by: Wizie Originally by: Alorin Tye Originally by: Equinox II Originally by: Gail well then by your own view; a bs, a pod, a pos - is it less art then a can? (all created by eve art team) but you still blow them up with out giving two hoots as to how much time a player has put into obtaining it. Let's say that someone blew up a copy of mona lisa, noone cares right, it probably happens every other day. What if someone blew up the original? See the difference? The can in itself is also just a can, but put together they make up art, like different strokes of paint make up a painting. Defining art is also VERY hard, check out wikipedia for example, there are a lot of discussions around how it should be defined. Ok, last post by me :p Oh My God... You just compared one of Leonardo da vinci's breakthough painting that was created during the renassaince to a computer game where some online cans have been placed to create the outline of a shark.... A child who makes a finger painting of a frog has produced "art", a monkey can produce "art" and Monet's watercolours are art. If you can't see the difference between the three, then I feel sorry for you, and maybe you do consider that depiction of a shark as "art" because thats how you percieve it. But that statement was just so stupid i think it gave me several types of cancer and bird flu. Just keeping to RL analogies. I think if you blew up Leonardo.... and podded his medieval self and he lost some sp at the local cloning vat.. OR you blew up his painting. I think that you should get heavier penalties for podding the poor sod than for the silly piece of art. erm... pardon??? You do realise that Leonardo was real.... and im trying really hard but stuggling to understand what point your trying to make. My reply was to Jin, you were just caught in the quote tree. Was pointing out how silly it is to start placing RL situations, when if compared in a complete manner, wouldn't killing Leonardo warrant a tougher penalty/public outcry than the defacing of some artwork. ----------------- Sig removed by some noob
hangovur	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:20:00 - [340] first, i would like to say that defacing the shark was a great idea......however the way it was done lacked creativity and originality. a much better idea would have been to add your own as stated before. that being said, i can tell you a helluva lot more work by a lot more people went into creating the blue pill and masada than that can art. TBB are not noobs, everyone on this forum has that idea except for the people who have ever seriously engaged them. almost all the people who have had major engagements give them props on these boards. however, they are selling T2 goods at MUCH lower prices than anyone else and providing a market where you can get all of your t2 goods in one place, and cheap. they claimed one constellation in the worst region in eve (as voted by the forumites) and opened it up for anyone that wanted to come. they allow noobs and vets alike a place to come and rat hunt and mine without some 13 year old claiming NBSI on them. they are not noobs, but everything about TBB helps this game and its players and IMO taking this contract, while profitable for you, hurts this game more than the defacing of some cans ever will. those cans provided a few moments of enjoyment for anyone outside of FRICk, BWF under TBB provides months of learning and play time for not only eve-uni pilots but anyone who wants to come and be peacefull. again, im not saying that should make it off limits, but please dont tell us how much those cans did for eve while you siege a place that truly does help thousands of new eve players. i am not saying there shouldnt be combat there, its part of the game. but please do not compalin about how much this hurt eve whilst you shut off the only truly accessable 0.0 space in eve (ie: you can get there easily w/o politics and/or w/o constant piracy). you guys keep playing the MERC card and telling people that they shouldnt take things personal, well to your contracts IT IS PERSONAL. if you have a long standing business relationship with an alliance and in the interest of your own personal profit you turn on them you should expect things like this. i have great respect for seleene and all of MC as IMO you guys are the pinnacle of mercs in eve, but you have to understand it was personal for TBB and those eve-uni students the minute you war dec'd and started threatining the monument they spent MONTHS of time, sweat and sick time constructing.

Vincent Gaines	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:24:00 - [341] defacing the cans is one thing.. hell, even shooting the cans isn't horrible however, filling it with NPC corp cans so it can't be fixed without (possible) GM intervention is lame. very lame.
Punchin' Monkeys	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:31:00 - [342] Of course, depending on your point of view, one could argue that NOW it is a true monument.
Recluse Viramor	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:34:00 - [343] Originally by: hangovur first, i would like to say that defacing the shark was a great idea......however the way it was done lacked creativity and originality. a much better idea would have been to add your own as stated before. that being said, i can tell you a helluva lot more work by a lot more people went into creating the blue pill and masada than that can art. TBB are not noobs, everyone on this forum has that idea except for the people who have ever seriously engaged them. almost all the people who have had major engagements give them props on these boards. however, they are selling T2 goods at MUCH lower prices than anyone else and providing a market where you can get all of your t2 goods in one place, and cheap. they claimed one constellation in the worst region in eve (as voted by the forumites) and opened it up for anyone that wanted to come. they allow noobs and vets alike a place to come and rat hunt and mine without some 13 year old claiming NBSI on them. they are not noobs, but everything about TBB helps this game and its players and IMO taking this contract, while profitable for you, hurts this game more than the defacing of some cans ever will. those cans provided a few moments of enjoyment for anyone outside of FRICk, BWF under TBB provides months of learning and play time for not only eve-uni pilots but anyone who wants to come and be peacefull. again, im not saying that should make it off limits, but please dont tell us how much those cans did for eve while you siege a place that truly does help thousands of new eve players. i am not saying there shouldnt be combat there, its part of the game. but please do not compalin about how much this hurt eve whilst you shut off the only truly accessable 0.0 space in eve (ie: you can get there easily w/o politics and/or w/o constant piracy). you guys keep playing the MERC card and telling people that they shouldnt take things personal, well to your contracts IT IS PERSONAL. if you have a long standing business relationship with an alliance and in the interest of your own personal profit you turn on them you should expect things like this. i have great respect for seleene and all of MC as IMO you guys are the pinnacle of mercs in eve, but you have to understand it was personal for TBB and those eve-uni students the minute you war dec'd and started threatining the monument they spent MONTHS of time, sweat and sick time constructing. QFT
Gail	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:36:00 - [344] Originally by: Punchin' Monkeys Of course, depending on your point of view, one could argue that NOW it is a true monument. hehe. yeah. i bet it gets more visits over the next cpl of days than the last cpl of mounths (if not years). -------------------------------------
Velsharoon	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:40:00 - [345] Well, FRICK isnt my corp anymore, nor is it Hiniks, but the fact that he made it and it has been defaced irritates us. That shark was art and harmed no one, he was just a big softy :(
DrDopehat	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:43:00 - [346] Originally by: wu han Edited by: wu han on 07/06/2006 14:16:55 Edited by: wu han on 07/06/2006 14:11:36 Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: H00KER Originally by: Aliterus Hooks Lets compare EvE to chess. Blowing up a ship in EvE is like taking an opposing players piece. Shooting the shark art is like throwing a fit and taking the chessboard and throwing it at your opponent. It's childish and lacks class. I am quite new to EVE but the reaction of -MC- is way over the top. Agreed, the shark was nice and it took Hiink ages to make but so what? It took TBB and all the players months to get BWF-ZZ opened up to the general public not to mention the continued effort in policing the space etc. This is a war - you declared and attacked TBB, an alliance that has done more to introduce 0.0 space to new players like me. MC should have shown some honour and refused the contract. Now, 2 pilots from EVE-U decided to strike back and stick it to ya. Maybe they didn't quite appreciate the 'beauty' and 'awesomeness' of the art - who knows? If I was in their position, with my alliance being attacked, my space invaded and my friends being killed; I would want to fight back. So yeah, the shark gets it. Not too bright but am sure it felt damn good. Irrilian has given the EVE-U's official position and no doubt, the two prankster will be punished. I doubt that this was officially sanctioned by anyone from TBB senior management; but the damage is now done. Now, we have MC pilots saying that that the student's actions 'lacks class' (Deja Toris), 'Instead, we might consider retaliation beyond the constraints of the given contract'(GoGo Yubari)[WTF?] and 'Art is (or should be) above matters such as war, its loss is a loss to the eve community as a whole and not just MC'. Oh come on guys - how pretentious! Destroying TBB would be a massive loss to the EVE Community; more so than the shark! Have you considered that? Wu-han /SIGNED!!!!!!!! Best damn point ever made in this thread And Equinox II, whats wrong with you? You're comparing this act to not only Mona Lisa's destruction and monuments made in rememberance of people who died in RL...how dare you do that? How dare you be that disrespectful..your shark does not at any level have ANY relations nor comparitive values to those things..it's disrespective to even assume that in the first place. You disgust me! Have some decency and stop comparing cutting a potato in half to murdering a child in cold blood. Hypocrites and scum I dub thee MC, apart from those who see it for what it is :)
Suppiluliumas	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:54:00 - [347] Originally by: hangovur first, i would like to say that defacing the shark was a great idea......however the way it was done lacked creativity and originality. a much better idea would have been to add your own as stated before. that being said, i can tell you a helluva lot more work by a lot more people went into creating the blue pill and masada than that can art. TBB are not noobs, everyone on this forum has that idea except for the people who have ever seriously engaged them. almost all the people who have had major engagements give them props on these boards. however, they are selling T2 goods at MUCH lower prices than anyone else and providing a market where you can get all of your t2 goods in one place, and cheap. they claimed one constellation in the worst region in eve (as voted by the forumites) and opened it up for anyone that wanted to come. they allow noobs and vets alike a place to come and rat hunt and mine without some 13 year old claiming NBSI on them. they are not noobs, but everything about TBB helps this game and its players and IMO taking this contract, while profitable for you, hurts this game more than the defacing of some cans ever will. those cans provided a few moments of enjoyment for anyone outside of FRICk, BWF under TBB provides months of learning and play time for not only eve-uni pilots but anyone who wants to come and be peacefull. again, im not saying that should make it off limits, but please dont tell us how much those cans did for eve while you siege a place that truly does help thousands of new eve players. i am not saying there shouldnt be combat there, its part of the game. but please do not compalin about how much this hurt eve whilst you shut off the only truly accessable 0.0 space in eve (ie: you can get there easily w/o politics and/or w/o constant piracy). you guys keep playing the MERC card and telling people that they shouldnt take things personal, well to your contracts IT IS PERSONAL. if you have a long standing business relationship with an alliance and in the interest of your own personal profit you turn on them you should expect things like this. i have great respect for seleene and all of MC as IMO you guys are the pinnacle of mercs in eve, but you have to understand it was personal for TBB and those eve-uni students the minute you war dec'd and started threatining the monument they spent MONTHS of time, sweat and sick time constructing. This guy has bingo, and pretty much wraps it all up. Lock teh thread!
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:57:00 - [348] Originally by: hangovur first, i would like to say that defacing the shark was a great idea......however the way it was done lacked creativity and originality. a much better idea would have been to add your own as stated before. that being said, i can tell you a helluva lot more work by a lot more people went into creating the blue pill and masada than that can art. TBB are not noobs, everyone on this forum has that idea except for the people who have ever seriously engaged them. almost all the people who have had major engagements give them props on these boards. however, they are selling T2 goods at MUCH lower prices than anyone else and providing a market where you can get all of your t2 goods in one place, and cheap. they claimed one constellation in the worst region in eve (as voted by the forumites) and opened it up for anyone that wanted to come. they allow noobs and vets alike a place to come and rat hunt and mine without some 13 year old claiming NBSI on them. they are not noobs, but everything about TBB helps this game and its players and IMO taking this contract, while profitable for you, hurts this game more than the defacing of some cans ever will. those cans provided a few moments of enjoyment for anyone outside of FRICk, BWF under TBB provides months of learning and play time for not only eve-uni pilots but anyone who wants to come and be peacefull. again, im not saying that should make it off limits, but please dont tell us how much those cans did for eve while you siege a place that truly does help thousands of new eve players. i am not saying there shouldnt be combat there, its part of the game. but please do not compalin about how much this hurt eve whilst you shut off the only truly accessable 0.0 space in eve (ie: you can get there easily w/o politics and/or w/o constant piracy). you guys keep playing the MERC card and telling people that they shouldnt take things personal, well to your contracts IT IS PERSONAL. if you have a long standing business relationship with an alliance and in the interest of your own personal profit you turn on them you should expect things like this. i have great respect for seleene and all of MC as IMO you guys are the pinnacle of mercs in eve, but you have to understand it was personal for TBB and those eve-uni students the minute you war dec'd and started threatining the monument they spent MONTHS of time, sweat and sick time constructing. Dont ******* come at us with that load of bullcrap. Or is it just that BOB didnt get any discount from TRUST so its ok that they went and blew up their outpost? god damn hypocrit My Latest Vid (18/04/06)
DrDopehat	Posted - 2006.06.07 16:14:00 - [349] What you're missing is, he got it SPOT-ON and you're angry about that.
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.06.07 16:15:00 - [350] haha. class 13 -_-

Aaewen Hrothgarson	Posted - 2006.06.07 16:26:00 - [351] So a landmark that has a great sentimental value to the MC was vandalized. (I want to congratulate the builder for his idea and the skill and dedication to implement it. Besides I would never have heard of it without this thread). I too have to side with all those that find it a bit of a hypocrisy that MC is sooo upset about it, sure it was childish, sure they destroyed something that took a lot of effort to realize, sure you had (I guess you still have) a sentimental binding to it. But, ask yourself a tiny little question: wasn't that what they were doing (probably to grief you out of frustration) the same what you do yourself at times, only at a much larger scale and - for ISK ? Eve is a conflict between the forces of construction and the forces of destruction. Mercenaries have the priviledge (and the burden) to choose with every contract they sign. Obviousely, you signed for destruction this time. Also, it seems that TBB and their policy is a good thing for EVE (and for low prices on HACs). A lot of people mentioning this. So where is the thread to organize a bit of support and make this a bitter pill to swallow for the attackers?
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.06.07 16:30:00 - [352] Originally by: DrDopehat What you're missing is, he got it SPOT-ON and you're angry about that. Least Eye posts with his main, why do you feel you have to come on here and post with an alt seriously why?
DrDopehat	Posted - 2006.06.07 16:31:00 - [353] Edited by: DrDopehat on 07/06/2006 16:34:10 Originally by: Aaewen Hrothgarson So a landmark that has a great sentimental value to the MC was vandalized. (I want to congratulate the builder for his idea and the skill and dedication to implement it. Besides I would never have heard of it without this thread). I too have to side with all those that find it a bit of a hypocrisy that MC is sooo upset about it, sure it was childish, sure they destroyed something that took a lot of effort to realize, sure you had (I guess you still have) a sentimental binding to it. But, ask yourself a tiny little question: wasn't that what they were doing (probably to grief you out of frustration) the same what you do yourself at times, only at a much larger scale and - for ISK ? Eve is a conflict between the forces of construction and the forces of destruction. Mercenaries have the priviledge (and the burden) to choose with every contract they sign. Obviousely, you signed for destruction this time. Also, it seems that TBB and their policy is a good thing for EVE (and for low prices on HACs). A lot of people mentioning this. So where is the thread to organize a bit of support and make this a bitter pill to swallow for the attackers? /SIGNED - (again :P ) And Traxio - How is me posting with an alt at all relevant to the points made surrounding this topic? Don't derail this because you can't find a proper argument.
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.06.07 16:44:00 - [354] Originally by: DrDopehat Edited by: DrDopehat on 07/06/2006 16:34:10 Originally by: Aaewen Hrothgarson So a landmark that has a great sentimental value to the MC was vandalized. (I want to congratulate the builder for his idea and the skill and dedication to implement it. Besides I would never have heard of it without this thread). I too have to side with all those that find it a bit of a hypocrisy that MC is sooo upset about it, sure it was childish, sure they destroyed something that took a lot of effort to realize, sure you had (I guess you still have) a sentimental binding to it. But, ask yourself a tiny little question: wasn't that what they were doing (probably to grief you out of frustration) the same what you do yourself at times, only at a much larger scale and - for ISK ? Eve is a conflict between the forces of construction and the forces of destruction. Mercenaries have the priviledge (and the burden) to choose with every contract they sign. Obviousely, you signed for destruction this time. Also, it seems that TBB and their policy is a good thing for EVE (and for low prices on HACs). A lot of people mentioning this. So where is the thread to organize a bit of support and make this a bitter pill to swallow for the attackers? /SIGNED - (again :P ) And Traxio - How is me posting with an alt at all relevant to the points made surrounding this topic? Don't derail this because you can't find a proper argument. Its very valid, why do you feel you have to post with an alt? You clealy dont believe in what you type or you would post with your main? Oh and I think this thread was derailed along time ago
Gail	Posted - 2006.06.07 16:49:00 - [355] Edited by: Gail on 07/06/2006 17:01:04 Originally by: Eyeshadow Originally by: Gail lol, look at who posted it, before you think this a mc vs bob post. Hes a BOB member, im an MC member. Am i missing something here? From what i read hes slating us for attacking TBB when BOB went and spanked TRUST only a few months ago. TRUST were pretty much what TBB are today i was reffering to his employment history. not sure of exact dates. but im sure he was in TBB when the pill was put up. prob has feelings for it, like the ex FRICK member earlier in post had feelings for sharky. -------------------------------------
DrDopehat	Posted - 2006.06.07 16:54:00 - [356] See there we go again, saying irrelevant stuff about the circumstances of my posting..how I choose to post, and why I choose to post is completely irrelevant to WHAT I choose to post. I believe in every word I post. Why I don't post with my main doesn't matter, but i'll tell you this much...my CEO requested I not post in this thread, so..I have to stick to using an alt unfortunately, otherwise I would use my main. And for the sake of being on the safe side, I'm not MC nor TBB In actuality I don't have to amuse your irrelevant statement, but for the sake of sportsmanship and answering something extremely illogic (posting with an alt and not your main makes a statement untrue - yeah..right..whatever). There you go
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 17:19:00 - [357] Edited by: Seleene on 07/06/2006 17:24:02 CAN A MOD PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD? There will be a new post up in a few days that everyone can spam. I think this one has run it's course tho. Hell, it's run a damn marathon tbh... - History of the MC movie!
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 17:20:00 - [358] [size=large]CAN A MOD PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD?[/red] There will be a new post up in a few days that everyone can spam. I think this one has run it's course tho. Hell, it's run a damn marathon tbh... - History of the MC movie!
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 17:21:00 - [359] [size=large]CAN A MOD PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD?[/red] There will be a new post up in a few days that everyone can spam. I think this one has run it's course tho. Hell, it's run a damn marathon tbh... - History of the MC movie!
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.07 17:21:00 - [360] [size=large]CAN A MOD PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD?[/red] There will be a new post up in a few days that everyone can spam. I think this one has run it's course tho. Hell, it's run a damn marathon tbh... - History of the MC movie!

ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.07 19:29:00 - [361] Sel's eager eh :p BDCI Recruitment Officersig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.06.07 19:32:00 - [362] Originally by: ParMizaN Sel's eager eh :p Least he posts with his main! Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Zandramus	Posted - 2006.06.07 19:56:00 - [363] Edited by: Zandramus on 07/06/2006 20:03:05 Anyways were out of the alliance Twinkey overreacted in corp chat to what was being said and ****** off the ceo and will be removed and i chose to stepdown as i wish to fly with a wingmate I trust You said it was personal now put your votes into declare war on '' Pencil Protectors '' it will save you about 20 hours btw this is how it's supose to look but sum1 posted it with my nub ass practice round Linkage once you declare the contract on The Big Blue over my alts cans will be removed and you can fix your shark untill then pacman (< shark sigs bugged :(
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.06.07 19:56:00 - [364] Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 07/06/2006 19:57:13 Sel I expect the mods are too busy nerfing peoples sigs to be bothered actually doing something someone asks Wonder if that gets it locked Oh and Darko Teq says he wants some more loving from you.
Raid	Posted - 2006.06.07 20:09:00 - [365] Woah... major spamage by Seleene...
Balgus Malignas	Posted - 2006.06.07 20:25:00 - [366] This is almost as bad as the noobs whining when they lose thier ships to pirates in low sec, they knew the risks and went in anyways. You knew the risk of making your cans/art a target everytime you declared war, get over it. Be glad they didn't destroy the whole thing, now that would have been harsh and something worth crying over, as it is, it was a well played war tactic. It can be fixed after the war, as Zandramas has stated he will remove the noob corp cans. Kudos to Zandramas and Twinkey for thinking it up, shame on TBB for not seeing it for what it was, and reprimanding their pilots.
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.06.07 20:26:00 - [367] I think Sel used the button, he used to test his diemos guns on my poor Vagabond -------------------------------------------------
Cohkka	Posted - 2006.06.07 20:27:00 - [368] @ Sel: Try [email protected] , they usualy lock the thread the next day or even after a few hours if you're lucky. Don't speak english, just F5, F5, F5...
Manus Ghostface	Posted - 2006.06.07 20:33:00 - [369] Hmm, imo they did it because cans don't shoot back. Lame. That city is well fortified which has a wall of men instead of brick. - Lycurgus
Miramax	Posted - 2006.06.07 20:39:00 - [370] roflmao this has got to be the best thread in ages MC whining like a bunch of *****es,then spamming to get the thread closed. this obviously hurt them more than winning like 100 fleetbattles against them oh and to Jin you say TBB exploits the players with their tech II prices,while your own allaince hoards them for internal use only? roflmao

pickcharname	Posted - 2006.06.08 01:50:00 - [371] Originally by: Seleene As a professional courtesy, our pilots are avoiding the EVE-Uni home empire systems and concentrating on BWF and the corridor leading up to it. yah u havent touched those euni pilots
Seekrieg	Posted - 2006.06.08 01:54:00 - [372] Greetings to all, It is the policy of Big Blue to not respond to or play into the forums in any manner; this is why there is always a lack of commentary in this medium from the Big Blue. I hope my colleagues within the Big Blue will indulge me with this exception, the first I have ever made. Eve University has already responded to this tragedy concerning the shark, Royal Navy Fleet Logistics & Mining echoes the sentiment of Eve University and desires all to know that this was unsanctioned, and is unappreciated by the membership of RNFLM. However, this act resides in the domain of Eve University and is not within the Jurisdiction of RNFLM or the Big Blue. Our declaration in this matter is solely for the purpose of communication to the Eve Community of our displeasure in this act. Having said this, and in having read what has been stated, I find it incredible that the suggestion of any other alteration to the shark, be it a harpoon, dog ears, whatever, would have been seen any differently. The sacrilege against your icon would simply be seen as that, regardless of its form. This again, is a reflection of both real life and game. Napoleon blows the nose off of the Sphinx, The Taliban blows up Buddhist shrines, the Louvre in Paris and the British museum in London are filled with loot from their Egyptian conquest, and now the shark in Eve is beheaded. All considered acts of War! As concerns the chill out this is a video game versus real life art, argument that is running through this thread. There will always be impassioned feelings for all participants, regardless of where they reside. In a video game or real life, lack of respect should never be tolerated. Which brings me to this, regardless of contracted or not, not everyone in the Big Blue is fond of PvP play, and the desire of those that wish to be industrialist or miners is infringed upon. MC tries to justify their actions with this contract cover, but its in allowing themselves to be contracted that they accept the will of someone else, to impose on others a game that they may not necessarily wish to play. The Big Blue is lucky to have individuals that regardless of the lack of fun forced on them by others, continue to participate based on the bonds of friendships that have been created. Therein lies the Art, that is the strength of the Big Blue. Seekrieg, Chief Operations Officer, RNFLM
Marie Elise	Posted - 2006.06.08 02:02:00 - [373] Originally by: Seekrieg Greetings to all, It is the policy of Big Blue to not respond to or play into the forums in any manner; this is why there is always a lack of commentary in this medium from the Big Blue. I hope my colleagues within the Big Blue will indulge me with this exception, the first I have ever made. Eve University has already responded to this tragedy concerning the shark, Royal Navy Fleet Logistics & Mining echoes the sentiment of Eve University and desires all to know that this was unsanctioned, and is unappreciated by the membership of RNFLM. However, this act resides in the domain of Eve University and is not within the Jurisdiction of RNFLM or the Big Blue. Our declaration in this matter is solely for the purpose of communication to the Eve Community of our displeasure in this act. Having said this, and in having read what has been stated, I find it incredible that the suggestion of any other alteration to the shark, be it a harpoon, dog ears, whatever, would have been seen any differently. The sacrilege against your icon would simply be seen as that, regardless of its form. This again, is a reflection of both real life and game. Napoleon blows the nose off of the Sphinx, The Taliban blows up Buddhist shrines, the Louvre in Paris and the British museum in London are filled with loot from their Egyptian conquest, and now the shark in Eve is beheaded. All considered acts of War! As concerns the chill out this is a video game versus real life art, argument that is running through this thread. There will always be impassioned feelings for all participants, regardless of where they reside. In a video game or real life, lack of respect should never be tolerated. Which brings me to this, regardless of contracted or not, not everyone in the Big Blue is fond of PvP play, and the desire of those that wish to be industrialist or miners is infringed upon. MC tries to justify their actions with this contract cover, but its in allowing themselves to be contracted that they accept the will of someone else, to impose on others a game that they may not necessarily wish to play. The Big Blue is lucky to have individuals that regardless of the lack of fun forced on them by others, continue to participate based on the bonds of friendships that have been created. Therein lies the Art, that is the strength of the Big Blue. Seekrieg, Chief Operations Officer, RNFLM And you are lucky this didnt get locked before you got a word in. MC is not very fond of being told how the world works and prefer to live in their own bubble. That being said i liek the pacman. Reminds me of the goon's crooked smile.
Hinkledolph	Posted - 2006.06.08 02:08:00 - [374] Maybe MC should start making threads about needing t2 tissues instead of t2 tinfoil hats.
Marie Elise	Posted - 2006.06.08 02:17:00 - [375] Originally by: Hinkledolph Maybe MC should start making threads about needing t2 tissues instead of t2 tinfoil hats. Class :3
GoGo Yubari	Posted - 2006.06.08 02:23:00 - [376] Originally by: Miramax roflmao this has got to be the best thread in ages MC whining like a bunch of *****es,then spamming to get the thread closed. this obviously hurt them more than winning like 100 fleetbattles against them oh and to Jin you say TBB exploits the players with their tech II prices,while your own allaince hoards them for internal use only? roflmao It's true. We're on the verge of collapse.

Kaemonn	Posted - 2006.06.08 02:30:00 - [377] Locked on OP's Request. forum rules \| [email protected]



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