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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3355
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Posted - 2014.06.18 21:51:00 -
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Radric Davids wrote:But when i saw that post I decided to lay the math-smackdown since it was so blatantly obvious that he was trying to out-math people but failing miserably. [..] I'm guessing we will not see him re-do his little correlation analysis correctly (because it would result in either proving his claim false, or require actual knowledge of wtf he is doing), but we will likely see what he calls a 'tears' post where he claims we are all crying because he proved he is beating the goons and that we tried and failed to outwit him using big words and nonsensical math (like he tried to do in his last post in this thread). I don't know what math teaching is like in Hungary, but he seems to think the basic-stats functions in excel are known only to a few people or something. In most Western countries correlation-style analysis and other basic tests like the t-test are something you do between age 15-18, and anything a little more meaty like chi-square/ANOVA you'll do in your first year of college/university if your course is science-based in any way.
To be honest I don't know if Gevlon is:
- unknowning delusional, and is able to shift his perspective without realising it, as a defence mechanism to keep his core beliefs intact -- a bit like how a modern religion will have shifted it's teachings away from the fundamentalism of old faiths (we don't believe the bible is literally the word of God, but we do believe in a Christian God still).
- wilfully obtuse, he knows he's wrong on nearly everything, but doesn't believe being wrong impacts his core beliefs and so keeps plugging at it because, 'hey, one day they will see it my way' -- a bit like how you can prove 99% of evolution theory, but they will hang on to the 1% doubt and claim the opposite conclusion (creationists).
But either way, one thing is clear - hating Goonswarm is a religious experience to Gevlon. It's his reason for being. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
707
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Posted - 2014.06.18 23:44:00 -
[602] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Gevlon have you ever toasted to yourself while talking to yourself in front of the mirror?
Hm, I may have to try this. My self esteem needs a boost. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |

Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
176
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Posted - 2014.06.19 05:28:00 -
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Gevlon latest blog post wrote:I've proven what common sense would tell us anyway
There you go. Despite showing the holes in his logic, he still claims being right. Obviously right, even. I wonder if he really believes it or just thinks his target audience is dumb enough to believe him. |

Succendus Tegimens
Hey Fatty With Your Thick Face
25
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Posted - 2014.06.19 07:38:00 -
[604] - Quote
So how about that titan bounty? |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3356
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Posted - 2014.06.19 08:52:00 -
[605] - Quote
Pete Butcher wrote:Gevlon latest blog post wrote:I've proven what common sense would tell us anyway There you go. Despite showing the holes in his logic, he still claims being right. Obviously right, even. I wonder if he really believes it or just thinks his target audience is dumb enough to believe him. It's a subtle masterpiece. In it, he makes up some more bad-math to prove himself wrong, then ret-cons his original theory to show how he was right all along, again!
I'll give him one thing, he likes to live up to the "goalposts" moniker. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3356
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Posted - 2014.06.19 08:53:00 -
[606] - Quote
e: forums in "unintentional double post" shocker. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
973
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Posted - 2014.06.19 10:05:00 -
[607] - Quote
Anyone ever made an apple pie in the shape of a Titan ? YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Maichin Civire
New Eden Possibilities
56
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Posted - 2014.06.19 10:07:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Anyone ever made an apple pie in the shape of a Titan ? That's actually nice idea... I could try Jita 4-4 undock camp =/= pvp
WHEN YOU'LL LEARN THIS |

Magnus Cortex
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
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Posted - 2014.06.19 19:39:00 -
[609] - Quote
Succendus Tegimens wrote:So how about that titan bounty?
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5249
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Posted - 2014.06.20 00:15:00 -
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Pete Butcher wrote:I wonder if he really believes it or just thinks his target audience is dumb enough to believe him.
I'd like to believe it's #2, but this late in the game I'm positive it's #1. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
720
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Posted - 2014.06.20 04:37:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Anyone ever made an apple pie in the shape of a Titan ? I think there's other things that work better in that shape. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3356
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:02:00 -
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How Gevlon's mind can rationalize away 30 pages of being dunked without a single person at any time ever agreeing with anything he says
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Let's decide this question, when something is tears/trolling and when it is not?
The answer is simple: always. Every single piece of communication between enemies are tears or trolling. Also, as he has stated, anyone who agrees with a GSF poster is obviously an alt.
Therefore, everything anyone ever says about his laundry list of terrible ideas, that have never come true in any fashion, is just tears! "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
176
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:12:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:How Gevlon's mind can rationalize away 30 pages of being dunked without a single person at any time ever agreeing with anything he saysGevlon Goblin wrote:Let's decide this question, when something is tears/trolling and when it is not?
The answer is simple: always. Every single piece of communication between enemies are tears or trolling. Also, as he has stated, anyone who agrees with a GSF poster is obviously an alt. Therefore, everything anyone ever says about his laundry list of terrible ideas, that have never come true in any fashion, is just tears!
Actually his latest blog post is pretty much filled with tears itself. You can translate it to:
Quote: How can these people claim I'm wrong? I can't be wrong! :tears: I'm too poor and ******** to join SA and goons rejected my invitation. :tears: I can't do **** to them and my wallet is empty. :tears:
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
632
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:41:00 -
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Okay, I can't match the levels of math dunking. But I feel a needless desire to post...
So by saying "This will keep me busy for a year or more" he actually already predicted how long it'll take him to give up?
I mean, this is all a cookie-cutter movie story about a hero going bad. Our young, brave knight starts his fight against an evil, evil empire (responsible for the untimely destruction of their thatched roof cottage, no doubt). In his quest for revenge he starts to achieve some progress (taking hisec POCOs, briefly in our case) while preaching his desire to fight evil.
In his grand crusade however, he's becoming just as twisted as his enemy - if not more. His "deadzone POCOs" have shafted hisec industrialists more than the evil empire, and the evil empire had sane tax rates in place before. He rallied the young and powerless peasants of hisec, funded them to fight the evil... and then promptly sold them to N3/PL as pets in chains (Instead of continuing the fight near their enemy, they will toil in the rat mines of Oasa.) because "numbers said so". It's a rule not to screw with your blues even in a hellhole like the CFC. Gevlon can't even keep that up - effectively scamming many new players (again, not even GSF scams actual new players.) and selling them out to N3/PL.
All we need now is the Evil Emperor (reprising his role, The Mittani. A round of applause please.) pointing out that Gevlon had become more evil than those who wear the dreaded fatbee emblem. Then saying something like "Join us, and together... no wait, you're the pubbiest of all the pubbies, and your posts are so bad we've changed the unit measure of shitposting to 'Gevlons'." (With the current record for worst post of all time being at 0.05 Gevlons. It is rumored that exceeding 1 Full Gevlon will collapse the entirety of internet into a black hole). Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
Covert pilots unite! Safer working conditions, less accidental limb loss due to unfortunate Cyno accidents! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258986 |

Radric Davids
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
86
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Posted - 2014.06.20 12:34:00 -
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Gevlon's post about wars and interactions made my chuckle at my desk:
Quote:Wars are negative sum interactions. Goonie loses jump freighter, I lose wardec cost and all we gained is laughing on the loss of the other one. War is the most expensive way of settling differences. Don't you think that if talking would work, it would have worked by now? So words are no longer serving another purpose than making the enemy mad
Quote:Could I start such peace talks with Goons? Theoretically yes, but what should I give up to get peace from them? Practically playing EVE. They hated me before I even downloaded the client, because I'm a "pubbie". It's not what I do in EVE make them hate me, but what I do in real life: not participating on that horrible forum. They don't want me to reform, they don't want to assimilate me like the borg, they just want me to stop playing. So I - and every other "pubbie shitlord" - has nowhere to retreat besides ending our lives in New Eden.
Goalposts actually thinks we consider him a war! ahahahaha
he actually equates what he is doing is a real war - if that doesn't demonstrate his delusions of grandeur I don't know what does |

Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2014.06.20 12:39:00 -
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gevlon is the dwarf on a pig jousting and has gotten hit on the head so hard he thinks he's a fearsome knight |

Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
785
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Posted - 2014.06.20 15:40:00 -
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Titan. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
721
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:06:00 -
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I feel like playing devil's advocate. Goons, if you were Gelvon, what steps would you take as a moderately wealthy high sec trader to hurt the goon alliance? New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |

Maichin Civire
New Eden Possibilities
56
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:20:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:I feel like playing devil's advocate. Goons, if you were Gelvon, what steps would you take as a moderately wealthy high sec trader to hurt the goon alliance? I'm not Goon, but I'd move my lazy ass out of station and actually try to do something useful. http://quietrebelwriting.blogspot.com/
- my little blog about one of the worst blogs about EVE Online. |

Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
468
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Posted - 2014.06.20 19:53:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:I feel like playing devil's advocate. Goons, if you were Gelvon, what steps would you take as a moderately wealthy high sec trader to hurt the goon alliance? in short, through friends
money in EVE helps out with things but fundamentally in eve power flows from the people you can get to work together, not isk. isk is an enabler: some things require isk, but isk on its own gets you basically nowhere as you see with idiots dying in 30b golems, or with gevlon himself. a hundred people without much isk are hugely more effective at anything than one guy with tons of isk.
to do harm to goonswarm you need to be able to organize people to work together effectively towards a common goal. gevlon, with his autistic hatred of socials, is uniquely unable to understand any aspect of that. he can only understand money, and self-promotion. he'd never go for something where he's giving credit to the rest of his team: his "GRR Project" is all about Gevlon personally taking credit for as much of other people's work as he possibly can by supplying the cheapest, easiest to obtain element of any organization in eve
i mean think about it: say you're a hell of a freighter-killer. would you be inspired to help gevlon? every time you work for hours to hunt down a 30b whale, Gevlon is going to loudly announce that because he contributed some money towards the wardec, that 30b kill is his work. you will be utterly nameless, and if gevlon could take your name off the killmail he'll link while crowing about himself and replace it with his, he would. |
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Cephelange du'Krevviq
Senex Legio
229
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Posted - 2014.06.20 21:14:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:I feel like playing devil's advocate. Goons, if you were Gelvon, what steps would you take as a moderately wealthy high sec trader to hurt the goon alliance? in short, through friends money in EVE helps out with things but fundamentally in eve power flows from the people you can get to work together, not isk. isk is an enabler: some things require isk, but isk on its own gets you basically nowhere as you see with idiots dying in 30b golems, or with gevlon himself. a hundred people without much isk are hugely more effective at anything than one guy with tons of isk. to do harm to goonswarm you need to be able to organize people to work together effectively towards a common goal.
This, in a nutshell.
To expand/elaborate:: 1) you need friends/associates/contacts (FAC) 2) those FAC need to be reliable, competent and capable 3) in addition, the FAC need to feel that EVE without the Goons is better than EVE with them (in the position they are) 4) on top of that, you and the FAC have to be willing to put in the time, ISK and effort towards that goal 5) know the meta, understand it and work to manipulate it, including going through the CSM
Personally, I think it's #5 a lot of people either miss or don't consider. No matter how you feel about the Goons, they are due credit for having a very firm grasp on #5.
Disclaimer: I'm not one of these tinfoil hat freaks that thinks the Goons and CCP are sharing a bed "I am a leaf on the...ah, frak it!" |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3357
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Posted - 2014.06.21 00:19:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:I feel like playing devil's advocate. Goons, if you were Gelvon, what steps would you take as a moderately wealthy high sec trader to hurt the goon alliance? The responces above mine here are decent, but don't literally answer the question - to which the answer is 'nothing'. A lone highsec trader isn't going to impact us in any way.
His problem is he is out to prove that money (and money alone) can be used to harm us - because of that all the actions set out above aren't available to him. He has long since realised that any impact he could possibly have would be inside the margin of error of whatever he is trying to change, so he leans hard on these silly analyses where he tries to correlate his tiny impact against a larger shift.
He's not dumb enough to not know what he's doing, he's just not smart enough to hide it, and he is dumb enough to think anyone will fall for it.
He's created something pretty much unique on the eve forums in the last 2 or 3 years - an anti-goonswarm thread that has absolutely no one agreeing with him. I'm not kidding, this is possibly the only 'grr goons' thread in recent history that has failed to get any traction whatsoever, even from the hard-line tinfoilers.
To misuse Toby Ziegler's words: "And you got to ask yourself, if no one on the Internet wants a piece of this, just how far from the pack have you strayed?" "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
260
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Posted - 2014.06.22 06:40:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:to do harm to goonswarm you need to be able to organize people to work together effectively towards a common goal. The summary of the Goon Lie. It's created to make enemies of Goons waste their time herding cats until they burn out and quit and cause no damage to Goons in the meantime.
Can one person defeat CFC all alone? Of course not. But luckily not just one wants to defeat the Goons. However these people don't have to cooperate or even talk to. An AFK cloaker small corp in Deklein doesn't need any connection to a Deklein roamer, a highsec camper or a hostile coalition. They just needs an AFK cloaker alt and a blops gang.
I don't hang out with Marmite or MoA guys. I don't share channels with them. We don't send each other jokes (besides killmails with fat Goonies). I do my job and they do theirs. That's the message of GRR: do your job, ignore the rest, don't waste time with diplomacy and Goonies will fall. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |

Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
176
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Posted - 2014.06.22 07:26:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:to do harm to goonswarm you need to be able to organize people to work together effectively towards a common goal. The summary of the Goon Lie. It's created to make enemies of Goons waste their time herding cats until they burn out and quit and cause no damage to Goons in the meantime. Can one person defeat CFC all alone? Of course not. But luckily not just one wants to defeat the Goons. However these people don't have to cooperate or even talk to. An AFK cloaker small corp in Deklein doesn't need any connection to a Deklein roamer, a highsec camper or a hostile coalition. They just needs an AFK cloaker alt and a blops gang. I don't hang out with Marmite or MoA guys. I don't share channels with them. We don't send each other jokes (besides killmails with fat Goonies). I do my job and they do theirs. That's the message of GRR: do your job, ignore the rest, don't waste time with diplomacy and Goonies will fall.
Except that Goons still control most of Eve, still do what they always did and have the biggest firepower. You post a lot of words how you're winning, along with lots of misinterpreted data (you still haven't responded to proving you fail at math) and the effect is? Nothing. You made a hell of a laughing stock of yourself, you made yourself poor, you're rambling like a madman and goons still enjoy their lives. Now please link me a freighter jita killmail, to prove cfc is falling. |

Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
50
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Posted - 2014.06.22 07:29:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:to do harm to goonswarm you need to be able to organize people to work together effectively towards a common goal. The summary of the Goon Lie. It's created to make enemies of Goons waste their time herding cats until they burn out and quit and cause no damage to Goons in the meantime. Can one person defeat CFC all alone? Of course not. But luckily not just one wants to defeat the Goons. However these people don't have to cooperate or even talk to. An AFK cloaker small corp in Deklein doesn't need any connection to a Deklein roamer, a highsec camper or a hostile coalition. They just needs an AFK cloaker alt and a blops gang. I don't hang out with Marmite or MoA guys. I don't share channels with them. We don't send each other jokes (besides killmails with fat Goonies). I do my job and they do theirs. That's the message of GRR: do your job, ignore the rest, don't waste time with diplomacy and Goonies will fall. I really would like to be in your head for a minute, No more than that as the sheer amount of retardation might corrupt me. Your basic message is in itself proof that you will never achieve anything except for throw money at a "cause" that only you believe in, Being that I've been in marmite and am actually friendly with them and have been for the last 5 years I know for a fact they honestly couldn't give a **** about the goons, they are just after juicy kills and if someone will pay them for that then why the **** wouldn't they do it?
Diplomacy in general is a massive key to success in EVE, I think you forget this isn't WoW to be honest, you should probably go back there as your entire viewpoint on everything you mention is so far from 99.994% of EVE players you will never make any real friends here, Just people who find it fun to mock you, Me being one of them
Finally, You have caused literally no disruption to the CFC and you never will, you're just the biggest laughing stock in EVE currently
Edit: there are also the people who are loving being able to extort you for cash, and who can blame them? its free money to do exactly what they've been doing for the previous 3 years before you even knew about this game |

Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
179
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Posted - 2014.06.22 07:31:00 -
[626] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:I don't hang out with Marmite or MoA guys. I don't share channels with them. We don't send each other jokes (besides killmails with fat Goonies). I do my job and they do theirs. That's the message of GRR: do your job, ignore the rest, don't waste time with diplomacy and Goonies will fall.
You don't hang out with Marmite and MoA because while they are happy to take your money, they can't stand you. Lets not pretend that arrangement has anything to do with efficiency and tactics, mmm? |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
1905
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Posted - 2014.06.22 09:23:00 -
[627] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote: The summary of the Goon Lie. It's created to make enemies of Goons waste their time herding cats until they burn out and quit and cause no damage to Goons in the meantime.
Can one person defeat CFC all alone? Of course not. But luckily not just one wants to defeat the Goons. However these people don't have to cooperate or even talk to. An AFK cloaker small corp in Deklein doesn't need any connection to a Deklein roamer, a highsec camper or a hostile coalition. They just needs an AFK cloaker alt and a blops gang.
I don't hang out with Marmite or MoA guys. I don't share channels with them. We don't send each other jokes (besides killmails with fat Goonies). I do my job and they do theirs. That's the message of GRR: do your job, ignore the rest, don't waste time with diplomacy and Goonies will fall.
Just look at the way Null is being held, hundreds of bootstrappy young Randian supergods. It's totally not being held by multi-thousand strong groups of players, bound together by common social activities and groupings.
The evidence is right there guys, just build a graph and study it out! This thread officially has 25% more pssssssshhh than leading competitors. |

Radric Davids
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
89
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Posted - 2014.06.22 10:55:00 -
[628] - Quote
mamite and MoA do not see this as the grr project, hell the vast majority of them don't know what that is. You portray them as crusaders against the CFC, but in reality they are basically fleecing you for money.
All the enemies who actually post a thread to CFC are organized. PL, N3 - organized. Random morons like marmite or small gangs in dek are not organized, and do not pose a threat. You will never, ever pose a threat because you think that working closely with other people is for 'dumb socials' and I highly doubt you even have mumble/ts3 installed on your computer. You will always be alone, and never be relevant |

Rain6637
Team Evil
15047
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Posted - 2014.06.22 12:48:00 -
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sorry i'm late. you know that saying about fighting against something for not having anything to live for. this is that President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |

Madame Trout
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2014.06.22 14:11:00 -
[630] - Quote
Radric Davids wrote:mamite and MoA do not see this as the grr project, hell the vast majority of them don't know what that is. You portray them as crusaders against the CFC, but in reality they are basically fleecing you for money.
All the enemies who actually pose a threat to CFC are organized. PL, N3 - organized. Random morons like marmite or small gangs in dek are not organized, and do not pose a threat. You will never, ever pose a threat because you think that working closely with other people is for 'dumb socials' and I highly doubt you even have mumble/ts3 installed on your computer. You will always be alone, and never be relevant
I enjoy reading random, irrelevant morons enthusiastically shitposting about random, irrelevant morons.
Please continue. |
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