How about syndicate ships for the next patch? I'm no gameplay expert so I'll just throw this in and let you all run with it

Think that'd just be Serpentis wouldnt it?

Think that'd just be Serpentis wouldnt it?

Bump, extremely hard to tell newbros that there are basically no good ways of making isk out where we live.

Well paying L4 empire faction NPC corps?

That's the thing. Currently we tell people if you need to make isk go away from where we live and run incursions or do l4 SoE missions in highsec. I would love to say "Hey! You can make great isk out here! Just run Intaki Syndicate missions and buy and sell faction items."

Currently Lowsec has Sec tags, Mordu's Legion Rats, FW sites, etc. Highsec has safe missions and incursions. SOV nullsec has aniom sites you can afk in an ishtar or VNI. NPC nullsec has no real source of income or anything that makes the space unique. It is the old useless lowsec with bombs and bubbles. I would love for CCP to address this and make NPC nullsec space unique and worth living in.

Well paying L4 empire faction NPC corps?

+1 for increasing chances of getting GROON capitals bubbled.

That's the thing. Currently we tell people if you need to make isk go away from where we live and run incursions or do l4 SoE missions in highsec. I would love to say "Hey! You can make great isk out here! Just run Intaki Syndicate missions and buy and sell faction items."

Currently Lowsec has Sec tags, Mordu's Legion Rats, FW sites, etc. Highsec has safe missions and incursions. SOV nullsec has aniom sites you can afk in an ishtar or VNI. NPC nullsec has no real source of income or anything that makes the space unique. It is the old useless lowsec with bombs and bubbles. I would love for CCP to address this and make NPC nullsec space unique and worth living in.

No, it's a seperate faction.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Syndicate

"...and their power increased through asteroid mining and black market trading..."

Hell, why not Intaki Mining Barges, Syndicate Rorquals or Intaki Security ships. Syndicate blockade Runners and Orcas? Or at least change the Edge implants to affect the strenght of combat boosters, not the side effects. Or both. Just give us something worth buying when missioning for them.

I mean, Syndicate (the region) is pretty popular for pvp'ers and well populated. But compared to other NPC-0.0 Regions like Stain it's just not worth running missions for them. Give our carebears something to do and earn their money here without going to empire space. Give the region a reason to live in it, not just to come here as a habit and pewpew.

For those who doupt the need for a change, check out the Intaki LP store. And start laughing (...or crying, depends if you live here or not)

+ Link to the Intaki LP-Store items +

So I was thinking a bit about the Edge implant set. Currently it reduces the negative effects of drugs you take, however if you are in a situation where you are taking drugs, say exile or drop for example, you don't care about the penalties because you are likely to lose your ship if you don't take the drugs.

This tends to make reducing the negative effects of drugs completely unneeded especially when compared to any other pirate implant set, or even something as basic as genolutions. So instead of decreasing the negative aspects of drugs why not have the Edge set increase the positive bonus of drugs instead? This would bring them to the level of snakes, slaves, halos, etc as well as give people more of a reason to get strong drugs.

Crystals would still be better for pure boosting that Edge since crystals increase the base amount of boost and Edge would only increase the amount of the drug by a few percent. Crystals+blue pill would result in a stronger boost than Edge+blue pill though edge would also increase the effet of other drugs you may be taking, such as drop, crash, frentix, soothsayer, x-instinct, exile, mindflood.

So I was thinking a bit about the Edge implant set. Currently it reduces the negative effects of drugs you take, however if you are in a situation where you are taking drugs, say exile or drop for example, you don't care about the penalties because you are likely to lose your ship if you don't take the drugs.

This tends to make reducing the negative effects of drugs completely unneeded especially when compared to any other pirate implant set, or even something as basic as genolutions. So instead of decreasing the negative aspects of drugs why not have the Edge set increase the positive bonus of drugs instead? This would bring them to the level of snakes, slaves, halos, etc as well as give people more of a reason to get strong drugs.

Crystals would still be better for pure boosting that Edge since crystals increase the base amount of boost and Edge would only increase the amount of the drug by a few percent. Crystals+blue pill would result in a stronger boost than Edge+blue pill though edge would also increase the effet of other drugs you may be taking, such as drop, crash, frentix, soothsayer, x-instinct, exile, mindflood.

i have the feeling that all the LP stores need a good over haul. some more than others. SOE, has way to many grand things in theirs right now compared to the others

Wtf elemnt why you posting on eve-o,

outside that NPC null is terrible and doing anything to make it a little less terrible is a good thing.

+1

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Because nobody cares about syndicate, because nobody lives in syndicate anymore.

Nobody lives in syndicate because there is nothing valuable in it. If there is nothing valuable in it, nobody really cares about it. And if nobody really cares about it, people don't live there.

We know NPC Null isn't sexy and doesn't make up a large portion of the game's player base, but it is still an amazingly important region.

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I'd just like to point out how moving this thread back to front-page might impact quality of life for Syndicate resident.

I'd just like to point out how moving this thread back to front-page might impact quality of life for Syndicate resident.

Hey CCP, can a brother get a sticky?

Alternately, it would be amazing if we had a CSM member who was a long time member of NPC nullsec who was all too aware of the difficulties of living in that section of space and could help CCP understand effects that their balances to Sov space would have on NPC nullsec.

BWAHAHAHAHAH... *Ehrm* We really should work on getting someone elected to the CSM.

I'm considering running next year, but thats alot of work.

being able to buy faction ships in the syndicate LP store would kind of be a thing, cause it is technically serpentis space isn't it?

being able to buy faction ships in the syndicate LP store would kind of be a thing, cause it is technically serpentis space isn't it?

give the syndicate Lp store a consumable WH generator, pops up a 1h WH with limited mass ( < 1 carrier), visible to all (just like cyno field?), that always connects NPC null system with another NPC null system) might in return even give life to ****** regions like great wildlands or venal. can't be used out of NPC null space.

Wonder when a dev or gm last was in Syndicate lat time...

This still needs fixing.

You made me very confused as to why I had 13 notification things upon checking the forums. Also, I've gotten 90% of these likes from this one thread. I might mean its a popular idea or something CCP.

That and the general nature that NPC null blows ass and syndicate being the most AAS blowing of them all. Though we do have Poitot, the only named system in Syndicate.

If the situation in Syndicate, Outer Ring and those NPC regions weren't so sad and I would have a way to earn isk, I would have considered living there.

Well, I did but with no means to earn isk, I'll better stay in Empire space for the time being.

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ORE technically has a better LP store than the Intaki Syndicate, even if its items are only attractive to people who want to make their barges explode more spectacularly.

Though a thorough rebalance of NPC null and non-FW lowsec is needed, a quick overhaul of agents and LP stores in some of these areas would do great things in the mean time. It is seriously bogus that running missions in hisec is better income.

Are you guys aware that there are other (more lucrative) agent options in Syndicate region than just Syndicate corporations?

+1, Syndicate needs some help. Or better a goldrush

As OP stated, the LP store of that faction is pretty useless.

The Intaki Armor plates are crap, the Intaki warp disruptor bubbles are not competitive with the T1/T2 versions and the implants specialize on such things like the reduction of the duration of the side effects from booster (...and most pilotes really don't care if the side effect lasts 30 minutes or 25 minutes. At least not enough to waste money and a implant slot.)

I still hope that the next series of faction Ships CCP introduces are for the Intaki Syndicate. Would love to see Intaki Space Police Cruisers or Battleships for some more Woop Woop!

we need more thorax models?

If it means syndicate is less ******, I'll take a million thorax models.

super size it. I want a thorax bs.

More ideas for items in Syndicate LP stores:
Faction ewar drones
Faction bubble launchers (reload time)
Faction warp disruption field generators
Faction ancillary armor repairers
Faction nanite paste (this one isn't too loopy, there are faction cap boosters after all for ASBs)
Implant set to increase hull hit points

Nanite paste is planetary poo, so no faction for that. But for the rest, why not.

As dumb as this may sound, syndicate drug hauler.

This is a scam

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You're a scam.

This is a scam

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As dumb as this may sound, syndicate drug hauler.

However it would most likely not be introduced until a major overhaul of boosters in general, which really isn't what we need.

I wonder how long we have to keep this on the front page before CCP tells us to stop annoying them.

It's clear that the new player experience is being given lots of design priority these days, so why not buff places like Syndicate?

If there was an actual way to make money in Syndicate, or at least sustain losses, it would be a perfect region for new people to head to until they find a niche that actually makes them stick to the game. As it is, they are much better off ISK wise just doing HS L4s and boring themselves to death, and if they are not having actual interaction, they probably are not going to keep with it. It would be good if they could secure income and easy access to fights in a single region, eliminating some of the logistical drudgery. Give them regions that let them do multiple things without hassle or lots of moving around; a region which is a reason to stay is possibly more effective than just trying to address each reason why they leave.

There are several CSM members (and devs) who do care about NPC Nullsec, but NPC Null doesn't attract attention like sov null due to the numbers living there.

It's clear that the new player experience is being given lots of design priority these days, so why not buff places like Syndicate?

Which is sad!

There are other NPC regions in null but compared to Syndicate they are smaller and not as 'famous'. Maybe they could get some love too.

Anyhow I hear you and you have my support and the support of many other from all over the place. We just have to stick to it and at some point we will be heard.

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Which would that be?
Stain? Which currently can't keep up with the Nightmare, Phantasm and Succubus BPC production, let alone the Slave-Set production?
Venal? Are you kidding me?
Curse? Are you slightly kidding me? Although I don't know what to do with my Angel LP now that the ships are worth crap.
Delve? Kidding, right?
Fountain Core? Kidding, right?
Outer Ring? This one is special and thanks to the ORE ships already in a good position.
Great Wildlands? This one is special and attracts a special kind of people. Giving it more stations, for instance, would just go starkly against the nature of the sov owners there; henceforth it's not good to change anything.
Only Syndicate, especially their LP store, could need a special something that is actually useful.

i think i'm missing something. why is syndicate so 'bad' for making isk? my two years there were easily the most lucrative times i've ever had in eve, nothing else has come close.

i think i'm missing something. why is syndicate so 'bad' for making isk? my two years there were easily the most lucrative times i've ever had in eve, nothing else has come close.

i think i'm missing something. why is syndicate so 'bad' for making isk? my two years there were easily the most lucrative times i've ever had in eve, nothing else has come close.

Whenever i talk to possible new recruits about EVE, I try to tell them not to get scared away by the huge amount of skills and knowledge needed for this game. I tell them that all you really need to be a useful and welcome member of our fleets is a cheap T1 frig, a point, and a mwd. that's a couple of days worth of SP's and a few 100k iskies.

If they really are interested and we start talking about details and trial-accs and so on, i always have to tell them that, well, we life in Syndicate. So you'll also need a JC and a highSec mission-agend, at least lvl3... otherwise every frig or cruiser-loss will bring tears to your eyes.

So then comes the "but if what you told us is true and you live in null sec... you talked about risk vs. reward and so on... shouldn't you be easily able to afford your PVP when you live there?"

...that's when i slouch my shoulders and take a deep pull on the bottle

This would be an excellent way to make Quafe Zero an unlimited item and makes the constellation with quafe stations in syndicate very valuable. It would also tie in with the flavor of the intaki syndicate's booster related items excellently. I however didn't suggest this since my alliance has effectively held that constellation for quite some time and above all else, I wouldn't want to suggest something that would only benefit an area I live in.

This would be an excellent way to make Quafe Zero an unlimited item and makes the constellation with quafe stations in syndicate very valuable. It would also tie in with the flavor of the intaki syndicate's booster related items excellently. I however didn't suggest this since my alliance has effectively held that constellation for quite some time and above all else, I wouldn't want to suggest something that would only benefit an area I live in.

Clockwork is not a member of the CFC, nor should CCP be basing their changes on who already lives in a constellation. Leave the political stuff out of this thread, tia.

I think, if CFC could gain the chance to control that LP store, some reshufflng of agents is in order. There are 2 constellations with equal numbers or Quafe Stations in Syndicate. While, however, your constellations has all the L4 Mining and Distro agents as well as 2 L4 Security agents, the other has mainly worthless L1-2 agents and only 1 L4 agent. Other than that I don't have much of a problem with it.

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Derailing is easily done with CFC's attitude towards the game. I don't see anything wrong in preventing just that. And your last paragraph's content is making my point all the more valid, as the Syndicate Quafe L4s are too concentrated. 2P- has worthless Quafe agents, BY- has 1 L4 Sec and LSC4 has 1 L4 Sec. Your constellation (you are still with GROON, which solidifies my other point), on the other hand, has 2 L4 Sec, 2 L4 Distro and 4 L4 Mining agent, in addition to a plethora of lower level agents. Even if we ignore the politics, some agent shuffeling would do the Syndicate Quafe with the suggested LP store additions good in order to provide more content for more people without the need to blue too many folks.

then you are bad at eve.

syndicate isn't WHs when it comes to making isk. a month-old pilot can easily make enough to plex an account if they've got half a brain, though, running relic/data sites and goofing around. so what's the problem? that to me sounds pretty good.

if you buff an area so newbies can do well at it, it's just going to encourage the old people to come in and do even better at it.

syndicate isn't WHs when it comes to making isk. a month-old pilot can easily make enough to plex an account if they've got half a brain, though, running relic/data sites and goofing around. so what's the problem? that to me sounds pretty good.

if you buff an area so newbies can do well at it, it's just going to encourage the old people to come in and do even better at it.

I will dance naked for syndicate lp store improvements, just saying.

I will dance naked for syndicate lp store improvements, just saying.

Are we talking "Fix the syndicate LP store or I'll come to iceland and slip powerful hallucinogens into CCP Fozzie's beer?" aggressive or what?

Are we talking "Fix the syndicate LP store or I'll come to iceland and slip powerful hallucinogens into CCP Fozzie's beer?" aggressive or what?

Hey, know what would be awesome for driving conflict in Syndicate? This stuff.

Hey, know what would be awesome for driving conflict in Syndicate? This stuff.

Its pretty much accepted that the Syndicate LP store has nothing desirable in it that makes running missions for the Syndicate faction desirable over running level 4's or 5's for literally any other Gallente faction. However the fact that the deployable faction bubbles are available from the Syndicate LP leads to a reasonable addition that would add a great deal of value to it.
I believe faction warp disrupt probes and faction Warp Disruption Field Generator modules would be popular additions to EVE that would also inject some much needed content generation into Syndicate.
The bonus to the warp disrupt probes could be something small such as a 5km bonus added to its warp disrupt range and a touch more EHP, making them slightly more desirable to people tackling capitals and the like by making them more resistant to smartbombing.
The Warp Disruption Field Generator would be harder to nail down since giving it a bubble larger than T2 would be somewhat absurd due to the already massive size of the bubble generated by the T2 module. However things like improved cap use and reduced fitting would make the extremely useful for fits where you have more than one WDFG allowing you to have a working fit without completely gimping it.
Feel free to comment or contribute ideas as you see fit.

EDIT: Faction bubbles also gives you an option for building in the mechanics of a bubble to stop MJDs which was mentioned when they were first announced, however I personally feel that such a mechanic would be best introduced after seeing how the medium MJDs effect the current meta, if it all.

Its pretty much accepted that the Syndicate LP store has nothing desirable in it that makes running missions for the Syndicate faction desirable over running level 4's or 5's for literally any other Gallente faction. However the fact that the deployable faction bubbles are available from the Syndicate LP leads to a reasonable addition that would add a great deal of value to it.
I believe faction warp disrupt probes and faction Warp Disruption Field Generator modules would be popular additions to EVE that would also inject some much needed content generation into Syndicate.
The bonus to the warp disrupt probes could be something small such as a 5km bonus added to its warp disrupt range and a touch more EHP, making them slightly more desirable to people tackling capitals and the like by making them more resistant to smartbombing.
The Warp Disruption Field Generator would be harder to nail down since giving it a bubble larger than T2 would be somewhat absurd due to the already massive size of the bubble generated by the T2 module. However things like improved cap use and reduced fitting would make the extremely useful for fits where you have more than one WDFG allowing you to have a working fit without completely gimping it.
Feel free to comment or contribute ideas as you see fit.

EDIT: Faction bubbles also gives you an option for building in the mechanics of a bubble to stop MJDs which was mentioned when they were first announced, however I personally feel that such a mechanic would be best introduced after seeing how the medium MJDs effect the current meta, if it all.

Fatigue limiter bpc 5 run- drug that will have 50% chance of halving your current fatigue level.
150mil isk + LP
You can only use 1 pill per 24h even when it will not bring any positive results.

Ready drug should cost around 100mill per use.

Will this be OP, and abused?
I don't think so, as random part of its application will block the "fleet" abuse.

If someone from some reason score the upper limit of fatigue - then this way he can try to fix it without needing to wait month or more before he will be able to jump.


Playing eve while drunk , could take your "jump drive license" for month after those changes!

Fatigue limiter bpc 5 run- drug that will have 50% chance of halving your current fatigue level.
150mil isk + LP
You can only use 1 pill per 24h even when it will not bring any positive results.

Ready drug should cost around 100mill per use.

Will this be OP, and abused?
I don't think so, as random part of its application will block the "fleet" abuse.

If someone from some reason score the upper limit of fatigue - then this way he can try to fix it without needing to wait month or more before he will be able to jump.


Playing eve while drunk , could take your "jump drive license" for month after those changes!

Hey everyone. Here are our latest updates to the plan.

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Both the new bomb and new interdiction probe will be made available exclusively in the Syndicate LP store.

Though the focused void bombs are a nice addition unfortunately their LP cost is so low its hard to actually cash out our LP's.

Save us from poverty pls CCP :((((((((((((

Though the focused void bombs are a nice addition unfortunately their LP cost is so low its hard to actually cash out our LP's.

Save us from poverty pls CCP :((((((((((((

The escalation buff is another proxy nerf to Syndicate. Hope you are having fun in your pocket.


No really though, exploration really got hit hard, and was fueling a good deal of Real Syndicate(tm) PvP.