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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
514
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Posted - 2014.06.03 14:47:00 -
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A solo player plays for themselves and no one else.
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2921
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Posted - 2014.06.03 14:57:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Someone who does not play or work well with others
Often uses multiple alts for various roles and to "puffball" their solo corp to look bigger
However, may operate exclusively in NPC corps to avoid wardecs
That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
EDIT: I do not need additional content or anything directed at 'me' as a solo player. I am completely capable to play solo within the limits set fourth by the game's design. |

Zander Kumamato
Madz Legion Madz Republic
35
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Posted - 2014.06.03 14:58:00 -
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Dominus Tempus wrote:Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game.
Realized it was a multiplayer game when I signed up then treated it like a solo player after interacting with you people.
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Amenity Project
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:21:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:A solo player plays for themselves and no one else. I agree and admit that I do like to play with myself sometimes... |

Moth Eisig
Soliloquy Against Death
45
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:46:00 -
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Saisin wrote:A solo player chooses to not join player's controlled entities, and build their own in-game income without relying on others or paying taxes to any players' controlled entity.
Solo players have no instantaneous access to alliances or corp's intel. The nature of the game push them to have a few alts for scouting, and possibly multiboxing multiple accounts. They are looking for challenges they estimate they can survive with their existing assets, putting their own skins and assets on the line in an environment that is more favorable to bigger groups. They are probably a little paranoid as well as liking tough challenges.
They most likely fall under the profiles of Freedom Fighters or Bounty Hunters established by CCP. They are still interacting with the other players as needed to fulfill the goals they have established for themselves in Eve Online.
+1. I do not want to be beholden to any large entities, and I like the challenge of relying on my own resources (which do not currently include any alts, though I may at some point train an alt to pilot an Orca to base my exploration from).
DaReaper wrote:Someone who does not join a corp, doesn't chat or talk, someone who just plays the game as if it was a single player game.
These are the people who bounce. No interaction in anyway with anyone.
Playing Eve as if it were a single player game is not possible. Mining in an NPC corp in hisec is still competing with other players for resources and in the market. Sitting in a station doing nothing but .01ing market orders is still interacting with other players even if you never say a word to them. Also, going by CCPs numbers, I think you underestimate the amount of solo players that stick around. |

Doreen Kaundur
388
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:55:00 -
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solo player: a masterbator.
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Sul Glass
Other Worlds
34
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:07:00 -
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"Trying to solo EVE Online is like trying to solo Facebook." -- Torfi Frans Olafsson.
Stuff like this made me try to play eve solo. I never looked back . I fly 95% of the time in low or Null and 99.9% alone. No alt. I flew solo for 5 years then in a corp for a week and am now back solo again. I love flying solo and enjoy most aspects of Eve. I have had an Alt but stopped that. I have been in alliance and flown in fleet battles, partaken in most usual forms of PVP (not very well) and lots of other eve stuff with friends. But I keep coming back to simply me and my ship.
Pluses of solo for me:
I am an introvert. I have a stressful job, often dealing with people at tough times in their life so the quiet spaces of low/null flying solo really helps me relax. All my income is mine :) and I am incredibly rich :) I can chat to eve friends when I want to. (not because I have to, forming fleet or whatever.) I don't have to interact with idiots, though they often try and "interact" with me. I don't have to wait to do anything, I just go and do it. I make mistakes and I learn, they are my mistakes and my lessons. I do not give two hoots about my kill-board (which would not be true in a corp). From day one I realised that I am immortal. Losing ships is the cost of doing business. I can watch a film /listen to music most of the time. I serve as a constant reminder that there is more than one way to "play" eve and both enjoy it and be successful.
I have some great eve friends, the best of whom leave me alone most of the time. If you see me please do the same.
Sul
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4816
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:08:00 -
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Doreen Kaundur wrote:solo player: a master baiter.
"A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4816
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:10:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote: That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
I wasnt trying to be negative, I was pointing out solo players dont play with others. It may also be the case that some dont work well with others (like me), but you can still be plenty gregarious and still be solo, nothing wrong wiht that either. "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |

Fendro Galbani
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:27:00 -
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Solo player: A person who prefers to act alone and do things by him/herself. Someone who might even refuse to do things in a group or team if asked. (*)
Sort of a lone wolf type.
(*) This made me think... I have also seen lots of times in RL that people prefer to do everything (by) themselves, whereas they should be working in a team considering the amount of work and the schedule. => That is a control issue. I wonder if it is the same in EvE or if here it has more to do with shyness. EDIT: or indeed just wanting to relax.. |

Serene Repose
1365
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:31:00 -
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There ain't no way you can play a solo game in EVE. The only way you can truly "solo" is to sit in your station spinning your tutorial ships with admiration. Buy that first bullet, first drone, first anything and you're multi-playing.
It's a lot like, even if you decide not to decide, you made a decision. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4816
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:45:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote: It's a lot like, even if you decide not to decide, you made a decision.
Well, we may disagree on many things, but I see we both like Rush
Sweet "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |

Leafar Nightfall
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:49:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:There ain't no way you can play a solo game in EVE. The only way you can truly "solo" is to sit in your station spinning your tutorial ships with admiration. Buy that first bullet, first drone, first anything and you're multi-playing.
It's a lot like, even if you decide not to decide, you made a decision.
I don't see why people are struggling to understand what "solo" means in this context Of course no one is able to play eve 100% "foreveralone". But in a game that greatly values group work, big corporations and fleets, the fact that you don't have those things by option makes you a solo player.
Solo is not alone |

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2924
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:02:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote: That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
I wasnt trying to be negative, I was pointing out solo players dont play with others. It may also be the case that some dont work well with others (like me), but you can still be plenty gregarious and still be solo, nothing wrong wiht that either.
The first sentence of your quote said directly and with broad sweeping strokes that we can not and do not work well with others. If that is not a negative I am not sure what is. I am completely able to work well with others in real life. I work in a physical therapy clininc and work one on one with severly disable individuals, traumatic brain injuries, cancer, stroke.... as well as work in unison with doctors, therapists and administration. I am also a father with 50-50 joint custody and a FUBARED work schedule. It is a time constraint issue purely and has nothing to do with my ability to socializ and/or cooperate with others. The phone game I play, Parallel Kingdom (very close to EvE I may add) I work in groups as it is a much more casual friendly game....unless your kingdom is at war, and even then combat there is much more fluid then in EvE.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4823
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:07:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote: That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
I wasnt trying to be negative, I was pointing out solo players dont play with others. It may also be the case that some dont work well with others (like me), but you can still be plenty gregarious and still be solo, nothing wrong wiht that either. The first sentence of your quote said directly and with broad sweeping strokes that we can not and do not work well with others. If that is not a negative I am not sure what is. I am completely able to work well with others in real life. I work in a physical therapy clininc and work one on one with severly disable individuals, traumatic brain injuries, cancer, stroke.... as well as work in unison with doctors, therapists and administration. I am also a father with 50-50 joint custody and a FUBARED work schedule. It is a time constraint issue purely and has nothing to do with my ability to socializ and/or cooperate with others. The phone game I play, Parallel Kingdom (very close to EvE I may add) I work in groups as it is a much more casual friendly game....unless your kingdom is at war, and even then combat there is much more fluid then in EvE.
Im trying to apologise if it came across as that way as that was not intended
My syntax may have been off, I meant it to be read as "Does not play with others OR does not work well with others"
Im sorry if I worded it badly, but I also dont know why you are having a go at me, all I did was write something a little badly, some people in here call solo players much much worse things.
And I already admitted I dont work well with others
Writing an easily misconstrued comment and annoying you without meaning to at all should be evidence enough of that!
So, in short, I am genuinely sorry if I offended you with my comments, it was purely by accident
"A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2924
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:16:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote: Im trying to apologise if it came across as that way as that was not intended
My syntax may have been off, I meant it to be read as "Does not play with others OR does not work well with others"
Im sorry if I worded it badly, but I also dont know why you are having a go at me, all I did was write something a little badly, some people in here call solo players much much worse things.
And I already admitted I dont work well with others
Writing an easily misconstrued comment and annoying you without meaning to at all should be evidence enough of that!
So, in short, I am genuinely sorry if I offended you with my comments, it was purely by accident
I thought my responses were fairly congenial. No offense was taken as I know who and what I am. I am just giving examples from my situation as I feel that they are much more common then many players believe. Plus, I missed the post where you admitted to prefer playing solo. That is something you should have said in your first post to be honest.
So considering you have admitted to prefer playing solo, do you use alts to bolster your corps numbers? Use NPC a corp to duck war decks? If not then you should just go ahead and edit your first post. Just saying. Not angry or upset. Just expressing my point of view. |

Mike LeRoi
The Forsaken Guild
0
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:20:00 -
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Me. Call me what you want, I enjoy running missions alone. I have no problem if some one wants to tag along though. You are never alone in New Eden anyway. So, what's the question again? |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4824
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:30:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:
I thought my responses were fairly congenial. No offense was taken as I know who and what I am. I am just giving examples from my situation as I feel that they are much more common then many players believe. Plus, I missed the post where you admitted to prefer playing solo. That is something you should have said in your first post considering the topic of the thread to be honest.
So considering you have admitted to prefer playing solo; do you use alts to bolster your corps numbers? Do you use your NPC corp to duck war decks? If not then you should just go ahead and edit your first post. Just saying. Not angry or upset. Just expressing my point of view.
In regards to bolstering numbers, yes (You can meet my extended family in another thread if you like, I think its called "What PLEX means to me" or some thing (they all came around when I called them inbred hicks).
And no to the NPC ducking.
Pretty sure I said "may", meaning not everyone does this "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |

Ohhhh Feely Nice
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2014.06.03 20:00:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote: That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
I wasnt trying to be negative, I was pointing out solo players dont play with others. It may also be the case that some dont work well with others (like me), but you can still be plenty gregarious and still be solo, nothing wrong wiht that either. Your posting style on these forums does not at all make this obvious.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4827
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Posted - 2014.06.03 20:02:00 -
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Ohhhh Feely Nice wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote: That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
I wasnt trying to be negative, I was pointing out solo players dont play with others. It may also be the case that some dont work well with others (like me), but you can still be plenty gregarious and still be solo, nothing wrong wiht that either. Your posting style on these forums does not at all make this obvious.
Im just not a people person
Im more of a sociopath, though thats probably a bit grandiose for what I really am
Im kinda happy though that something about me really brings out the hate in others "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |

Kerie Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:19:00 -
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Personally, I believe a solo player is someone who is controlling their character(s) fully and without any out of game code.
I know there are people playing the game using software like ISBoxer, which apparently CCP has said they are allowed to do. But I cannot see how that is not classed as "botting" as you are only controlling one character and relying on out of game code to control the others. |

Zander Kumamato
Madz Legion Madz Republic
39
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Posted - 2014.06.04 18:35:00 -
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Kerie Thomas wrote:Personally, I believe a solo player is someone who is controlling their character(s) fully and without any out of game code.
I know there are people playing the game using software like ISBoxer, which apparently CCP has said they are allowed to do. But I cannot see how that is not classed as "botting" as you are only controlling one character and relying on out of game code to control the others.
Serve the rich, Keep the poor poor. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4858
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Posted - 2014.06.04 18:45:00 -
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Kerie Thomas wrote:Personally, I believe a solo player is someone who is controlling their character(s) fully and without any out of game code.
Thats right
The only important CODE can be found in-game! "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13960
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:46:00 -
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Solo - one person playing one account fighting with one pilot without any OGB or outside assistance whatsoever.
"Solo" - one person playing several accounts with one pilot, one OGB alt, one falcon/blackbird/griffin/ibis alt and 3 neutral logistics.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
608
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Posted - 2014.06.05 08:39:00 -
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People so hateful of OGBs. If jealous, get your own booster while they still do something.
Else, flying true solo without scout/OGB is very daring, also incredibly dumb. "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Talia Prime
Imperial Militia
33
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Posted - 2014.06.05 09:18:00 -
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I used to think I was a solo player. Due to time constraints and inconsistent logging on times I'm unable to participate in corp activities so I mainly do exploration in all sectors of space. That said, I do participate in Spectre fleets and used to love bombers bar. I also used to run incursions, although I rarely get the chance now. So, I guess I'm not truly solo. |

Leafar Nightfall
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2014.06.05 13:24:00 -
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Talia Prime wrote:I used to think I was a solo player. Due to time constraints and inconsistent logging on times I'm unable to participate in corp activities so I mainly do exploration in all sectors of space. That said, I do participate in Spectre fleets and used to love bombers bar. I also used to run incursions, although I rarely get the chance now. So, I guess I'm not truly solo.
I'd still consider you a solo player. If you do most of your things solo, run your own "services" (i.e. ships and modules logistic), don't have a regular group or corp, and mostly do solo stuff like exploration, you're a solo player.
Like I said, solo doesn't mean alone necessarily. Yesterday I became friends with two other pilots. one who mopped the floor with me three times in a row and shared some tips, and fleeted up with the second when we saw that we'd tie if we fought (I wouldn't break his tank and he wouldn't be able to get me in his scrambler range)
Playing solo has much, much more to do with being independent than with being antissocial |

Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1458
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Posted - 2014.06.05 13:25:00 -
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For me, solo equates to busy in real life. I don't feel like I'd be reliable to an active corp and I'd be worried that I'd get sucked in and risk RL commitments. .. when everything else is gone .. |

Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
398
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Posted - 2014.06.05 13:45:00 -
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I play solo most of the time. One account too.
I've been in and out of a few corps over the years, and never cared for the demands I needed to fulfill to participate. I hate feeling like I'm not pulling my weight, and the conflict that creates between my game time and real life. I just want to play at my own pace and not have to worry about it. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12024
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Posted - 2014.06.05 17:49:00 -
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I'm all alone in my alliance. Should count as pretty solo.
/c
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