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Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:39:00 -
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As I was looking around and getting more familiar with the forums, I did a search to see if there was any thread about what *is* considered being a solo player in Eve Online. I did not really find a thread dedicated to defining what is a solo player.
With the statement obtained by Capt. TurAmarth ElRandir from CCP Seagull (see my sig for the link), it is good to know CCP cares about this play style, so I thought the community could contribute their views about defining what is a Solo Player, in a constructive way.
There are a few rules I'd like to lay down for this thread to be useful: - Post your own definition below - Avoid trolling or being sarcastic if this is not your play style. Simply ignore this thread, as it is not intended for you. - Do your best to keep it short identifying the main characteristics of a solo player, and do not get drown in details. --Do not comment or respond about other player's definition, as the point is not to find a unique truth, but to understand all the truths out there. - If you care about the subject, Read all the other definitions, and like the ones you could agree with, even if they do not match perfectly your own views.
Thanks! "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1984
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:40:00 -
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lol this again. How does one empty the signature? |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4776
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:41:00 -
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Someone who does not play or work well with others
Often uses multiple alts for various roles and to "puffball" their solo corp to look bigger
However, may operate exclusively in NPC corps to avoid wardecs "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Dominus Tempus
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
96
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:41:00 -
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Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game. |
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:45:00 -
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Solo Player: A solo player is a player who's primary activities in game are done alone. In 90% of cases I call these players targets, the other 10% are elite pvpers. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4781
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:48:00 -
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Dominus Tempus wrote:Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game. Surely someone who hunts players on their own is playing a multiplayer game? "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
715
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:48:00 -
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1 man and all of his boosting and scout alts.
Am i close? |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
563
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:51:00 -
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Someone who does not join a corp, doesn't chat or talk, someone who just plays the game as if it was a single player game.
These are the people who bounce. No interaction in anyway with anyone. 10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1776
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:57:00 -
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Solo player = plays on their own.
Often means 1 player, 1 character Often means 1 player, many characters Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
176
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:59:00 -
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Solo players are those who live in highsec exclusively and uses only highsec content exclusively. |
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Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1275
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:00:00 -
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Someone who doesn't realise they are playing a game which is about getting the most pap links. |
Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:09:00 -
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A solo player chooses to not join player's controlled entities, and build their own in-game income without relying on others or paying taxes to any players' controlled entity.
Solo players have no instantaneous access to alliances or corp's intel. The nature of the game push them to have a few alts for scouting, and possibly multiboxing multiple accounts. They are looking for challenges they estimate they can survive with their existing assets, putting their own skins and assets on the line in an environment that is more favorable to bigger groups. They are probably a little paranoid as well as liking tough challenges.
They most likely fall under the profiles of Freedom Fighters or Bounty Hunters established by CCP. They are still interacting with the other players as needed to fulfill the goals they have established for themselves in Eve Online. "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1666
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:09:00 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Solo players are those who live in highsec exclusively and uses only highsec content exclusively. Thats a bear, Carebear if they avoid conflict as well. "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
Unsuccessful At Everything |
Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:30:00 -
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I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.
Which pretty much leaves only PvP.
So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG. |
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:32:00 -
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Jegrey Dozer wrote:I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.
Which pretty much leaves only PvP.
So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG.
So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4784
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:35:00 -
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Jegrey Dozer wrote:MMORPG.
What if the Role you Play is a serial killer?
Or a used car salesman?
Or a beggar?
Or a scrap merchant?
etc "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
119
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:36:00 -
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Adira Nictor wrote:Jegrey Dozer wrote:I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.
Which pretty much leaves only PvP.
So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG. So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P
I too have a differing opinion on this matter, for when I recieve hate mail from those that I have relieved of there ship(s) all by my lonesome, it becomes a very social matter. Also implying solo pvpers have no friends is outright foolish. |
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:38:00 -
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Dun'Gal wrote:Adira Nictor wrote:Jegrey Dozer wrote:I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.
Which pretty much leaves only PvP.
So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG. So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P I too have a differing opinion on this matter, for when I recieve hate mail from those that I have relieved of there ship(s) all by my lonesome, it becomes a very social matter. Also implying solo pvpers have no friends is outright foolish.
Quite right, we should be friends, or kill each other, which ever happens first. |
Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:42:00 -
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Adira Nictor wrote: So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P
Maybe if I whined to friends/corp-mates about dying and we ganged up on the 'solo player,' then they contributed something social. But that's an indirect relationship. The 'solo player' is not being social. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
564
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:42:00 -
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Saisin wrote:A solo player chooses to not join player's controlled entities, and build their own in-game income without relying on others or paying taxes to any players' controlled entity.
Solo players have no instantaneous access to alliances or corp's intel. The nature of the game push them to have a few alts for scouting, and possibly multiboxing multiple accounts. They are looking for challenges they estimate they can survive with their existing assets, putting their own skins and assets on the line in an environment that is more favorable to bigger groups. They are probably a little paranoid as well as liking tough challenges.
They most likely fall under the profiles of Freedom Fighters or Bounty Hunters established by CCP. They are still interacting with the other players as needed to fulfill the goals they have established for themselves in Eve Online.
I disagree, a bounty hunter or freedom fighter interacts with other players. In order to be a bounty hunter you have to activly look for bounties, this is player interaction. A pure solo player plays with no one, ignores everyone, and is in npc corps. They don;t activity pvp or participant in anyway with anyone else. I don;t think they tend to have alts as they usually leave by then 10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
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Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:44:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote: What if the Role you Play is a serial killer?
Or a used car salesman?
Or a beggar?
Or a scrap merchant?
etc
If you role play a serial killer, I think I figured out why you're a solo player. = P
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
564
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:44:00 -
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Adira Nictor wrote:Jegrey Dozer wrote:I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.
Which pretty much leaves only PvP.
So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG. So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P
then you are not a solo player. you are activly engaging other players. That is no longer solo play. Even ig you play yourself but hunt someone down and kill that is a form of social interaction. You will prolly remain in eve longer then a pure solo player. 10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4786
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:48:00 -
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DaReaper wrote: then you are not a solo player. you are activly engaging other players. That is no longer solo play. Even ig you play yourself but hunt someone down and kill that is a form of social interaction. You will prolly remain in eve longer then a pure solo player.
Your definition of a solo player is impossible to fulfil
Unless you never buy or sell anything "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4786
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:51:00 -
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Jegrey Dozer wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: What if the Role you Play is a serial killer?
Or a used car salesman?
Or a beggar?
Or a scrap merchant?
etc
If you role play a serial killer, I think I figured out why you're a solo player. = P
why? "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:53:00 -
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Dun'Gal wrote: I too have a differing opinion on this matter, for when I recieve hate mail from those that I have relieved of there ship(s) all by my lonesome, it becomes a very social matter. Also implying solo pvpers have no friends is outright foolish.
I did not say solo PvP is bad. But the social aspect of this game, in my opinion, is more dependent on comradery than it is on hatred. Otherwise, we would not have corporations binding people together.
It would be very poor advice to tell a player to play the game and reach a common goal with people they generally do not care for. Isn't there a little saying about the journey being more important than the destination? Especially in a game that values time and patience over effort.
Also, the concept of a person being purely a solo player is also foolish. However, that is what OP asked for us to define. |
Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:58:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Jegrey Dozer wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: What if the Role you Play is a serial killer?
Or a used car salesman?
Or a beggar?
Or a scrap merchant?
etc
If you role play a serial killer, I think I figured out why you're a solo player. = P why?
You eat a lot of bread.
http://elkoshary.com/science-and-technology/bread-dangerous
I am pretty sure correlation is causation here.
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Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
504
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:01:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:then you are not a solo player. you are activly engaging other players. That is no longer solo play. Even ig you play yourself but hunt someone down and kill that is a form of social interaction. You will prolly remain in eve longer then a pure solo player.
Saisin wrote:There are a few rules I'd like to lay down for this thread to be useful: - Post your own definition below - Avoid trolling or being sarcastic if this is not your play style. Simply ignore this thread, as it is not intended for you. - Do your best to keep it short identifying the main characteristics of a solo player, and do not get drown in details. --Do not comment or respond about other player's definition, as the point is not to find a unique truth, but to understand all the truths out there. - If you care about the subject, Read all the other definitions, and like the ones you could agree with, even if they do not match perfectly your own views.
Thanks!
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4786
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:04:00 -
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You are quite silly and I dont like you very much.
Please go away "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
504
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:05:00 -
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To me, a solo player is one who has no characters in a player corp and therefore has no permanent (or semi-permanent) relationship with others. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4787
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:06:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:Saisin wrote: --Do not comment or respond about other player's definition, as the point is not to find a unique truth, but to understand all the truths out there.
How does one understand if one is not allowed to ask questions to gain further understanding? "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
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