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Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:39:00 -
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As I was looking around and getting more familiar with the forums, I did a search to see if there was any thread about what *is* considered being a solo player in Eve Online. I did not really find a thread dedicated to defining what is a solo player.
With the statement obtained by Capt. TurAmarth ElRandir from CCP Seagull (see my sig for the link), it is good to know CCP cares about this play style, so I thought the community could contribute their views about defining what is a Solo Player, in a constructive way.
There are a few rules I'd like to lay down for this thread to be useful: - Post your own definition below - Avoid trolling or being sarcastic if this is not your play style. Simply ignore this thread, as it is not intended for you. - Do your best to keep it short identifying the main characteristics of a solo player, and do not get drown in details. --Do not comment or respond about other player's definition, as the point is not to find a unique truth, but to understand all the truths out there. - If you care about the subject, Read all the other definitions, and like the ones you could agree with, even if they do not match perfectly your own views.
Thanks! "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1984
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:40:00 -
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lol this again. How does one empty the signature? |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4776
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:41:00 -
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Someone who does not play or work well with others
Often uses multiple alts for various roles and to "puffball" their solo corp to look bigger
However, may operate exclusively in NPC corps to avoid wardecs "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Dominus Tempus
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
96
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:41:00 -
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Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game. |
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:45:00 -
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Solo Player: A solo player is a player who's primary activities in game are done alone. In 90% of cases I call these players targets, the other 10% are elite pvpers. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4781
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:48:00 -
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Dominus Tempus wrote:Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game. Surely someone who hunts players on their own is playing a multiplayer game? "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
715
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:48:00 -
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1 man and all of his boosting and scout alts.
Am i close? |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
563
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:51:00 -
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Someone who does not join a corp, doesn't chat or talk, someone who just plays the game as if it was a single player game.
These are the people who bounce. No interaction in anyway with anyone. 10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1776
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:57:00 -
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Solo player = plays on their own.
Often means 1 player, 1 character Often means 1 player, many characters Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
176
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:59:00 -
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Solo players are those who live in highsec exclusively and uses only highsec content exclusively. |
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Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1275
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:00:00 -
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Someone who doesn't realise they are playing a game which is about getting the most pap links. |
Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:09:00 -
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A solo player chooses to not join player's controlled entities, and build their own in-game income without relying on others or paying taxes to any players' controlled entity.
Solo players have no instantaneous access to alliances or corp's intel. The nature of the game push them to have a few alts for scouting, and possibly multiboxing multiple accounts. They are looking for challenges they estimate they can survive with their existing assets, putting their own skins and assets on the line in an environment that is more favorable to bigger groups. They are probably a little paranoid as well as liking tough challenges.
They most likely fall under the profiles of Freedom Fighters or Bounty Hunters established by CCP. They are still interacting with the other players as needed to fulfill the goals they have established for themselves in Eve Online. "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1666
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:09:00 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Solo players are those who live in highsec exclusively and uses only highsec content exclusively. Thats a bear, Carebear if they avoid conflict as well. "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
Unsuccessful At Everything |
Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:30:00 -
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I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.
Which pretty much leaves only PvP.
So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG. |
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:32:00 -
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Jegrey Dozer wrote:I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.
Which pretty much leaves only PvP.
So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG.
So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4784
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:35:00 -
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Jegrey Dozer wrote:MMORPG.
What if the Role you Play is a serial killer?
Or a used car salesman?
Or a beggar?
Or a scrap merchant?
etc "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
119
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:36:00 -
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Adira Nictor wrote:Jegrey Dozer wrote:I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.
Which pretty much leaves only PvP.
So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG. So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P
I too have a differing opinion on this matter, for when I recieve hate mail from those that I have relieved of there ship(s) all by my lonesome, it becomes a very social matter. Also implying solo pvpers have no friends is outright foolish. |
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:38:00 -
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Dun'Gal wrote:Adira Nictor wrote:Jegrey Dozer wrote:I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.
Which pretty much leaves only PvP.
So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG. So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P I too have a differing opinion on this matter, for when I recieve hate mail from those that I have relieved of there ship(s) all by my lonesome, it becomes a very social matter. Also implying solo pvpers have no friends is outright foolish.
Quite right, we should be friends, or kill each other, which ever happens first. |
Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:42:00 -
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Adira Nictor wrote: So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P
Maybe if I whined to friends/corp-mates about dying and we ganged up on the 'solo player,' then they contributed something social. But that's an indirect relationship. The 'solo player' is not being social. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
564
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:42:00 -
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Saisin wrote:A solo player chooses to not join player's controlled entities, and build their own in-game income without relying on others or paying taxes to any players' controlled entity.
Solo players have no instantaneous access to alliances or corp's intel. The nature of the game push them to have a few alts for scouting, and possibly multiboxing multiple accounts. They are looking for challenges they estimate they can survive with their existing assets, putting their own skins and assets on the line in an environment that is more favorable to bigger groups. They are probably a little paranoid as well as liking tough challenges.
They most likely fall under the profiles of Freedom Fighters or Bounty Hunters established by CCP. They are still interacting with the other players as needed to fulfill the goals they have established for themselves in Eve Online.
I disagree, a bounty hunter or freedom fighter interacts with other players. In order to be a bounty hunter you have to activly look for bounties, this is player interaction. A pure solo player plays with no one, ignores everyone, and is in npc corps. They don;t activity pvp or participant in anyway with anyone else. I don;t think they tend to have alts as they usually leave by then 10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
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Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:44:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote: What if the Role you Play is a serial killer?
Or a used car salesman?
Or a beggar?
Or a scrap merchant?
etc
If you role play a serial killer, I think I figured out why you're a solo player. = P
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
564
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:44:00 -
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Adira Nictor wrote:Jegrey Dozer wrote:I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.
Which pretty much leaves only PvP.
So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG. So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P
then you are not a solo player. you are activly engaging other players. That is no longer solo play. Even ig you play yourself but hunt someone down and kill that is a form of social interaction. You will prolly remain in eve longer then a pure solo player. 10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4786
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:48:00 -
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DaReaper wrote: then you are not a solo player. you are activly engaging other players. That is no longer solo play. Even ig you play yourself but hunt someone down and kill that is a form of social interaction. You will prolly remain in eve longer then a pure solo player.
Your definition of a solo player is impossible to fulfil
Unless you never buy or sell anything "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4786
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:51:00 -
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Jegrey Dozer wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: What if the Role you Play is a serial killer?
Or a used car salesman?
Or a beggar?
Or a scrap merchant?
etc
If you role play a serial killer, I think I figured out why you're a solo player. = P
why? "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:53:00 -
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Dun'Gal wrote: I too have a differing opinion on this matter, for when I recieve hate mail from those that I have relieved of there ship(s) all by my lonesome, it becomes a very social matter. Also implying solo pvpers have no friends is outright foolish.
I did not say solo PvP is bad. But the social aspect of this game, in my opinion, is more dependent on comradery than it is on hatred. Otherwise, we would not have corporations binding people together.
It would be very poor advice to tell a player to play the game and reach a common goal with people they generally do not care for. Isn't there a little saying about the journey being more important than the destination? Especially in a game that values time and patience over effort.
Also, the concept of a person being purely a solo player is also foolish. However, that is what OP asked for us to define. |
Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:58:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Jegrey Dozer wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: What if the Role you Play is a serial killer?
Or a used car salesman?
Or a beggar?
Or a scrap merchant?
etc
If you role play a serial killer, I think I figured out why you're a solo player. = P why?
You eat a lot of bread.
http://elkoshary.com/science-and-technology/bread-dangerous
I am pretty sure correlation is causation here.
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Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
504
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:01:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:then you are not a solo player. you are activly engaging other players. That is no longer solo play. Even ig you play yourself but hunt someone down and kill that is a form of social interaction. You will prolly remain in eve longer then a pure solo player.
Saisin wrote:There are a few rules I'd like to lay down for this thread to be useful: - Post your own definition below - Avoid trolling or being sarcastic if this is not your play style. Simply ignore this thread, as it is not intended for you. - Do your best to keep it short identifying the main characteristics of a solo player, and do not get drown in details. --Do not comment or respond about other player's definition, as the point is not to find a unique truth, but to understand all the truths out there. - If you care about the subject, Read all the other definitions, and like the ones you could agree with, even if they do not match perfectly your own views.
Thanks!
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4786
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:04:00 -
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You are quite silly and I dont like you very much.
Please go away "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
504
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:05:00 -
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To me, a solo player is one who has no characters in a player corp and therefore has no permanent (or semi-permanent) relationship with others. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4787
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:06:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:Saisin wrote: --Do not comment or respond about other player's definition, as the point is not to find a unique truth, but to understand all the truths out there.
How does one understand if one is not allowed to ask questions to gain further understanding? "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
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Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
120
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:07:00 -
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As mentioned the definition of a true solo player is extraordinarily difficult, if not impossible to achieve, as interaction with other players may occur involuntarily. While one could, in theory, never use the market - by mining ores, and building the ships they use, and utilizing loot drops to fit said ships, or researching/building these things on there own. The fact that another player can, without warning, interact with you (the supposed solo player,) destroys the concept of "true" solo play.
Edit: Also local, mandatory rookie chat when joining, npc corp chat, etc. make lack of interaction with other people further difficult. |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
504
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:17:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Saisin wrote: --Do not comment or respond about other player's definition, as the point is not to find a unique truth, but to understand all the truths out there.
How does one understand if one is not allowed to ask questions to gain further understanding? DaReaper wasn't asking a question or seeking clarification, he was just rubbishing someone else's opinion, which the OP has specifically asked us to refrain from. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4787
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:19:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Saisin wrote: --Do not comment or respond about other player's definition, as the point is not to find a unique truth, but to understand all the truths out there.
How does one understand if one is not allowed to ask questions to gain further understanding? DaReaper wasn't asking a question or seeking clarification, he was just rubbishing someone else's opinion, which the OP has specifically asked us to refrain from. I wasnt being specific about DaReaper's post, you had drawn my attention to a logic-trap in the OP
You just kinda got sucked into it due to my bad quote-editing skills
Soz "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Vivec Septim
The Bene Gesserit Sanctuary Pact
33
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:22:00 -
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Solo-players are lost -- this game definitely doesn't cater to that style very much.
The meat-and-potatoes of this game are the coordinated efforts of many people. Heck, even achieving a level of trust with anyone in this game is a calculated gamble, considering how many within New Eden are scammers. I don't operate in that way but I completely understand the extensive security required for many important operations. |
Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:24:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote: You are quite silly and I dont like you very much.
Please go away
That's what a serial killer would say. You are already exhibiting solo player characteristics. |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
504
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:28:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:] I wasnt being specific about DaReaper's post, you had drawn my attention to a logic-trap in the OP
You just kinda got sucked into it due to my bad quote-editing skills
Soz Well, in fact, even asking a question would violate the OP's thread rules. He just asks for our definitions, whether or not others understand them and without comment from others.
And as I am myself now taking part in a discussion I shall shut up! |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
178
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:35:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Solo players are those who live in highsec exclusively and uses only highsec content exclusively. Thats a bear, Carebear if they avoid conflict as well. Solo players by association. Most carebears are those simple afk miners that read a guide of the best isk/hr ratio and haul it via an AP'd indy to jita without ever interacting with anyone save the market. Missioners are the same except they shoot red crosses instead of space rocks. Tell me how many unaware miners and mission runners have you met in highsec who looks lost if you actually interacted with them?
Some just ignore you thinking you you are part of the environment, some get angry for being in an interaction with a real human and spew crap all over local. Some might even shoot you thinking you are an NPC and receive a quick CONCORD and will proceed to biomass himself over a "broken" game.
TL;DR most solo players are carebears. And no solo pvp'ers actually engage with other players. Even CCP said so. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
299
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:41:00 -
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A solo player, to me at least, is a player who operates independently of others to reach a goal or goals they themselves intend to reach alone, even when such goals compete with others in a group/team/fleet/corp/alliance. That last part is my way of saying that a solo player is still a solo player even when their competition, like wartargets or enemies, are not operating solo.
A carebear is a player who actively avoids competitive roles in player-to-player environments, but may still operate cooperatively with others to achieve goals set by "the group". They can still be solo players, but it doesn't automatically make them so, just as being a solo player doesn't immediately make you a carebear.
In short, solo players are people who specifically avoid cooperative player-to-player interaction but not necessarily competitive interactions, while a carebear avoids competitive interactions but not necessarily cooperative interactions. You can be either, both at the same time, or neither types, since they neither allow nor disallow one another. A PVPer can still be a solo player or part of a major alliance, and a carebear can still be part of a group or someone who works alone, as both types of players are interchangeable types.
Now, I think one grey area concerning the concept of solo players is "when are alts taken into account in regards to the definition?" To me, it simply doesn't. To add to my definition should it be needed, a solo player is still solo regardless of whether they are using one character or several, as long as the PLAYER is still operating on their own.
That's my take, anyways. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3661
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Posted - 2014.06.03 04:29:00 -
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Solo player: PvP braggart with off grid command ship and 1+ neutral logi alts. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2014.06.03 05:02:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:Well, in fact, even asking a question would violate the OP's thread rules. He just asks for our definitions, whether or not others understand them and without comment from others.
Thanks for pointing it out again "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html |
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Jim Era
8529
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Posted - 2014.06.03 05:31:00 -
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Me WatGäó |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5351
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Posted - 2014.06.03 06:02:00 -
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Solo Player: The hero with ******* the size of watermelons. You have to be an all-star to go it alone against 500k other pilots.
I have nothing but respect for those that take up that challenge.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Dex Lysia
Steampunk Surplus
22
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Posted - 2014.06.03 06:24:00 -
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Jegrey Dozer wrote:If you role play a serial killer, I think I figured out why you're a solo player. = P In my experience serial killers always get super hot blonde girlfriends so that sounds like a good kind of solo to me.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1779
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Posted - 2014.06.03 06:41:00 -
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Dex Lysia wrote:In my experience serial killers always get super hot blonde girlfriends so that sounds like a good kind of solo to me.
Hmm, exactly how much experience with serial killers do you have and should CCP (or the NSA, o/ guys) inform your local police?
Of course, being Dex Lysia you would go to kill someone, but end up letting the, go right? Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Dex Lysia
Steampunk Surplus
22
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Posted - 2014.06.03 06:45:00 -
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I think the word "solo" in "solo players" is very misleading. I reckon there are very few players who don't interact with anyone, ever (excluding the obviously unwelcome highsec ganks etc.). Even the highsec industrialists who constantly fly freighters into Jita during Hulkageddon-type events deal with a small subset of similar industrialists/miners to do their job. Most miners who I find in the only ship in a belt will happily chat for a while if there's a reason.
I fly with and chat to the same 4 people week after week and live in various tiny corps with my alts. I'm pretty sure many people would include me in the "solo player" category even though it is against the literal definition of the term.
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Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
100
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Posted - 2014.06.03 07:40:00 -
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Dominus Tempus wrote:Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game. Not that old chestnut again. Multiplayer just means that a lot of players can play at once, in EVE, on the same server and not in shards. It does *not* mean that everyone has to play in groups or gangs.
As for the OP's question: to me being a solo player is all about being independent, owing nothing to anyone. Eve players always say, "Trust no-one" so I don't.
Certainly, I do not make much ISK, do not see areas of the game as they need to be done "en-masse", but that's fine by me. I pay and play for me, no-one else, and at the end of the day, being selfish is what Eve is largely about. |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
170
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Posted - 2014.06.03 08:29:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:
I disagree, a bounty hunter or freedom fighter interacts with other players. In order to be a bounty hunter you have to activly look for bounties, this is player interaction. A pure solo player plays with no one, ignores everyone, and is in npc corps. They don;t activity pvp or participant in anyway with anyone else. I don;t think they tend to have alts as they usually leave by then
There are those who claim that everything is PvP in Eve, so a solo rock chewer is also PvPing according to this definition and would not be very solo?
But this definition always was lacking.
Someone who's very rarely in a fleet with other people.
And I'd say solo-players noticed that they are playing an MMO, they just treat you the same as all the crosses. |
Decado Thellere
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.06.03 08:39:00 -
[48] - Quote
Dominus Tempus wrote:Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game.
I'm mostly a solo player but I enjoy playing in a world populated by other real people rather than NPCs. I enjoy the risk of random unpredictable behaviour and encounters that would be very difficult to simulate. I enjoy occasionally running into good people that may become friends even if we don't feel the need to play as if joined at the hip. I enjoy running into 'bad' people that make explosions happen on my screen. I enjoy having people to chat to while occasionally doing otherwise boring grindy activities. I even enjoy the fact that my refining/manufacturing/trading alt is interacting with other real people all the time while hardly ever undocking.
I do not enjoy spending 40 minutes of my 90 minute play time waiting for a fleet to form. I do not enjoy letting down fellow fleet members by needing to leave early or never being able to say for certain 'yes, I'll be there' because my available play time is limited and to a certain extent random.
Why do so many people have this preconceived notion that solo play is only for offline games? Just because there are other people in the game we must play in groups all the time? Nonsense. The real world has billions of people but we don't form a party/fleet/raid group for every activity we take part in, we spend much of our life alone, surrounded by other people going through their life solo. Group activities are great and should be enjoyed, but they are not all that life or mmos have to offer.
Edit: with regards to the OP, my definition of a solo players is someone who spends little or none of their time in game taking part in group activities eg fleets. Many activities involve interaction with other players but if these don't involve actively cooperating then they'd still count as solo in my book. |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
354
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Posted - 2014.06.03 09:10:00 -
[49] - Quote
Dominus Tempus wrote:Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game.
I am a solo player. I would love to join a Corp with others but due to real life issues I cannot guarantee when I am going to be in New Eden next so it's unfair on me joining a player Corp as I won't be pulling my weight.
So, it's either drop Eve or enjoy the solo aspect of the game whilst interacting with others that one meets.
Anyone who thinks a solo player believes that they're not in a MMO is, quite frankly, an idiot. There are a lots of players whom I have met are happy to run solo.
GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper |
Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
137
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Posted - 2014.06.03 09:38:00 -
[50] - Quote
My definition of a solo player requires
> Social anxiety > Offgrid Boosts (neut alt) > Back Up reps or ECM (neut alt) > A cyno with back up > Fraps (only fraps when you win) > Buying plex to afford pimped out fits and slave sets.
- Solo is dead -
^^Does only affect solo elite pvp^^
" let the butthurt replies flow :D http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
144
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Posted - 2014.06.03 09:46:00 -
[51] - Quote
Me! :D
"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit It never felt so good, I never felt so hid" - Ramona McCandless, Untitled |
Adunh Slavy
1467
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Posted - 2014.06.03 09:50:00 -
[52] - Quote
One character, one account, no alts to watch your back. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
54
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Posted - 2014.06.03 10:06:00 -
[53] - Quote
I consider myself a solo player because 90% of what I do in EvE, I do alone. No alts, no friends, and little to no interaction with anyone else. I rarely ask others for anything and almost never participate in chat, other than lurking for intel. I'm stealthy. And I slip through low sec, null sec and w-space like a ghost. I like being pursued .
After somewhere around 10 years of doing my best to avoid PvP I've finally decided to add it to my list of things to do. This has forced me to interact with other players to a greater degree than usual, so things may be taking a different turn for me. But once I have learned enough to hold my own I'll probably be hunting alone.
It's not because I hate other players or think EvE is a single player game. I'm just a very introverted person and I approach real life much the same way. I couldn't tell you why I turned out this way or whether it's right or wrong, but I'm content with being alone most of the time.
I think a solo player does interact with other players, but tends to drift off on their own for long periods of time. If you like any of the older ship models (original artwork) better than the redesign of your favorite hull and don't want them to be lost forever, support ship customization and this feature request. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4803
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Posted - 2014.06.03 11:59:00 -
[54] - Quote
Jegrey Dozer wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: You are quite silly and I dont like you very much.
Please go away
That's what a serial killer would say. You are already exhibiting solo player characteristics.
Never said I wasn't one (either of those things), just wanted to know what the connection you saw was)
http://bit.ly/1x06nDP "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Victor Andall
Heleneto Holdings
492
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Posted - 2014.06.03 12:10:00 -
[55] - Quote
In my case it's someone who doesn't have the time or patience to dedicate to a tightly-run player corporation. I sometimes team up with some IRL friends whenever we happen to be online at the same time and do FW and whatnot, but mostly it's just me. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do? |
Marina Velore
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.03 12:47:00 -
[56] - Quote
I am very much a solo player and there are many reasons why, among them being:
I don't want to participate in the feudalism that is 0.0.
It requires great risk, for very little gain to invite people to my corp.
I like to explore a lot, so I rarely stay in one place for long, most of this occurs in hostile 0.0 space and I am blue to no one.
I don't want to join a narrowly focused corp that requires you to play their way.
This is supposed to be a sandbox game, and I like to make my own goals and work to achieve them. I would love to join a corp or better yet, build my own, but the risks completely out weigh the rewards. I enjoy playing an MMO solo because I like to live in a dynamic universe with real risks and a functional economy.
-I'm not posting on my main because I am no one and can't be bothered to relog. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18591
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Posted - 2014.06.03 13:13:00 -
[57] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Solo players are those who live in highsec exclusively and uses only highsec content exclusively. Thats a bear, Carebear if they avoid conflict as well. Avoiding conflict doesn't make you a carebear, whining about other people forcing conflict upon you does.
Nil mortifi sine lucre Never go full Ripard |
Leafar Nightfall
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
127
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Posted - 2014.06.03 13:19:00 -
[58] - Quote
Some people (trolls?) don't get the difference between solo and autistic player
Playing solo doesn't mean you won't interact with others. For me, it means just running things on your own, either because you don't trust or don't want to rely on others to do your things. Be it PvP, hauling, industry or whatever.
I believe most people that play solo don't have the time to take part in corps or don't have the will to follow someone else's agenda. Speaking for myself, I only took part in a corp once. Although everyone was very helpful I just didn't want to have obligations like flying the corp fits, joining in teamspeak and stuff like that. My everyday life already have enough obligations without me needing to do what I'm told in my limited playing time.
I also like the feeling of being by myself in this huge universe, specially when I go to nullsec. It's like playing tag but with everyone else being the chaser. It's also playing eve on hard |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
358
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Posted - 2014.06.03 13:58:00 -
[59] - Quote
Leafar Nightfall wrote:Some people (trolls?) don't get the difference between solo and autistic player
Well, speaking, or typing, as someone who is autistic I don't get the connection. And,. as I have said before, I fly solo as it suits my personal lifestyle and gaming style.
As a poster just North of here says it's like a massive game of tag playing solo which is how I like it. It's one person (or two as I play two characters; this manufacturer and now one roamer) and it's good to be independent of everyone else.
GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper |
Leafar Nightfall
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2014.06.03 14:07:00 -
[60] - Quote
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:Some people (trolls?) don't get the difference between solo and autistic player Well, speaking, or typing, as someone who is autistic I don't get the connection. And,. as I have said before, I fly solo as it suits my personal lifestyle and gaming style. As a poster just North of here says it's like a massive game of tag playing solo which is how I like it. It's one person (or two as I play two characters; this manufacturer and now one roamer) and it's good to be independent of everyone else.
Sorry if that sounded offensive, I've edited my previous post . What I meant is that people don't see a difference between playing solo and completely isolating from interaction with other players. It is not always the case. I haven't taken part in a fleet for months now, but that doesn't mean that I don't talk to other players in the NPC corp chat, or compliment or ask things to anyone who I traded shots with.
It seems people see a need that every player is socially interacting and creating large scale content for the community, while you can simply play solo and mostly create content for yourself while still affecting the environment around you, even if in a small scale. |
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
514
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Posted - 2014.06.03 14:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
A solo player plays for themselves and no one else.
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2921
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Posted - 2014.06.03 14:57:00 -
[62] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Someone who does not play or work well with others
Often uses multiple alts for various roles and to "puffball" their solo corp to look bigger
However, may operate exclusively in NPC corps to avoid wardecs
That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
EDIT: I do not need additional content or anything directed at 'me' as a solo player. I am completely capable to play solo within the limits set fourth by the game's design. |
Zander Kumamato
Madz Legion Madz Republic
35
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Posted - 2014.06.03 14:58:00 -
[63] - Quote
Dominus Tempus wrote:Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game.
Realized it was a multiplayer game when I signed up then treated it like a solo player after interacting with you people.
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Amenity Project
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:21:00 -
[64] - Quote
Val'Dore wrote:A solo player plays for themselves and no one else. I agree and admit that I do like to play with myself sometimes... |
Moth Eisig
Soliloquy Against Death
45
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:46:00 -
[65] - Quote
Saisin wrote:A solo player chooses to not join player's controlled entities, and build their own in-game income without relying on others or paying taxes to any players' controlled entity.
Solo players have no instantaneous access to alliances or corp's intel. The nature of the game push them to have a few alts for scouting, and possibly multiboxing multiple accounts. They are looking for challenges they estimate they can survive with their existing assets, putting their own skins and assets on the line in an environment that is more favorable to bigger groups. They are probably a little paranoid as well as liking tough challenges.
They most likely fall under the profiles of Freedom Fighters or Bounty Hunters established by CCP. They are still interacting with the other players as needed to fulfill the goals they have established for themselves in Eve Online.
+1. I do not want to be beholden to any large entities, and I like the challenge of relying on my own resources (which do not currently include any alts, though I may at some point train an alt to pilot an Orca to base my exploration from).
DaReaper wrote:Someone who does not join a corp, doesn't chat or talk, someone who just plays the game as if it was a single player game.
These are the people who bounce. No interaction in anyway with anyone.
Playing Eve as if it were a single player game is not possible. Mining in an NPC corp in hisec is still competing with other players for resources and in the market. Sitting in a station doing nothing but .01ing market orders is still interacting with other players even if you never say a word to them. Also, going by CCPs numbers, I think you underestimate the amount of solo players that stick around. |
Doreen Kaundur
388
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:55:00 -
[66] - Quote
solo player: a masterbator.
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Sul Glass
Other Worlds
34
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:07:00 -
[67] - Quote
"Trying to solo EVE Online is like trying to solo Facebook." -- Torfi Frans Olafsson.
Stuff like this made me try to play eve solo. I never looked back . I fly 95% of the time in low or Null and 99.9% alone. No alt. I flew solo for 5 years then in a corp for a week and am now back solo again. I love flying solo and enjoy most aspects of Eve. I have had an Alt but stopped that. I have been in alliance and flown in fleet battles, partaken in most usual forms of PVP (not very well) and lots of other eve stuff with friends. But I keep coming back to simply me and my ship.
Pluses of solo for me:
I am an introvert. I have a stressful job, often dealing with people at tough times in their life so the quiet spaces of low/null flying solo really helps me relax. All my income is mine :) and I am incredibly rich :) I can chat to eve friends when I want to. (not because I have to, forming fleet or whatever.) I don't have to interact with idiots, though they often try and "interact" with me. I don't have to wait to do anything, I just go and do it. I make mistakes and I learn, they are my mistakes and my lessons. I do not give two hoots about my kill-board (which would not be true in a corp). From day one I realised that I am immortal. Losing ships is the cost of doing business. I can watch a film /listen to music most of the time. I serve as a constant reminder that there is more than one way to "play" eve and both enjoy it and be successful.
I have some great eve friends, the best of whom leave me alone most of the time. If you see me please do the same.
Sul
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4816
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:08:00 -
[68] - Quote
Doreen Kaundur wrote:solo player: a master baiter.
"A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4816
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:10:00 -
[69] - Quote
Slade Trillgon wrote: That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
I wasnt trying to be negative, I was pointing out solo players dont play with others. It may also be the case that some dont work well with others (like me), but you can still be plenty gregarious and still be solo, nothing wrong wiht that either. "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Fendro Galbani
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:27:00 -
[70] - Quote
Solo player: A person who prefers to act alone and do things by him/herself. Someone who might even refuse to do things in a group or team if asked. (*)
Sort of a lone wolf type.
(*) This made me think... I have also seen lots of times in RL that people prefer to do everything (by) themselves, whereas they should be working in a team considering the amount of work and the schedule. => That is a control issue. I wonder if it is the same in EvE or if here it has more to do with shyness. EDIT: or indeed just wanting to relax.. |
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Serene Repose
1365
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:31:00 -
[71] - Quote
There ain't no way you can play a solo game in EVE. The only way you can truly "solo" is to sit in your station spinning your tutorial ships with admiration. Buy that first bullet, first drone, first anything and you're multi-playing.
It's a lot like, even if you decide not to decide, you made a decision. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4816
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:45:00 -
[72] - Quote
Serene Repose wrote: It's a lot like, even if you decide not to decide, you made a decision.
Well, we may disagree on many things, but I see we both like Rush
Sweet "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Leafar Nightfall
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:49:00 -
[73] - Quote
Serene Repose wrote:There ain't no way you can play a solo game in EVE. The only way you can truly "solo" is to sit in your station spinning your tutorial ships with admiration. Buy that first bullet, first drone, first anything and you're multi-playing.
It's a lot like, even if you decide not to decide, you made a decision.
I don't see why people are struggling to understand what "solo" means in this context Of course no one is able to play eve 100% "foreveralone". But in a game that greatly values group work, big corporations and fleets, the fact that you don't have those things by option makes you a solo player.
Solo is not alone |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2924
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:02:00 -
[74] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote: That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
I wasnt trying to be negative, I was pointing out solo players dont play with others. It may also be the case that some dont work well with others (like me), but you can still be plenty gregarious and still be solo, nothing wrong wiht that either.
The first sentence of your quote said directly and with broad sweeping strokes that we can not and do not work well with others. If that is not a negative I am not sure what is. I am completely able to work well with others in real life. I work in a physical therapy clininc and work one on one with severly disable individuals, traumatic brain injuries, cancer, stroke.... as well as work in unison with doctors, therapists and administration. I am also a father with 50-50 joint custody and a FUBARED work schedule. It is a time constraint issue purely and has nothing to do with my ability to socializ and/or cooperate with others. The phone game I play, Parallel Kingdom (very close to EvE I may add) I work in groups as it is a much more casual friendly game....unless your kingdom is at war, and even then combat there is much more fluid then in EvE.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4823
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:07:00 -
[75] - Quote
Slade Trillgon wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote: That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
I wasnt trying to be negative, I was pointing out solo players dont play with others. It may also be the case that some dont work well with others (like me), but you can still be plenty gregarious and still be solo, nothing wrong wiht that either. The first sentence of your quote said directly and with broad sweeping strokes that we can not and do not work well with others. If that is not a negative I am not sure what is. I am completely able to work well with others in real life. I work in a physical therapy clininc and work one on one with severly disable individuals, traumatic brain injuries, cancer, stroke.... as well as work in unison with doctors, therapists and administration. I am also a father with 50-50 joint custody and a FUBARED work schedule. It is a time constraint issue purely and has nothing to do with my ability to socializ and/or cooperate with others. The phone game I play, Parallel Kingdom (very close to EvE I may add) I work in groups as it is a much more casual friendly game....unless your kingdom is at war, and even then combat there is much more fluid then in EvE.
Im trying to apologise if it came across as that way as that was not intended
My syntax may have been off, I meant it to be read as "Does not play with others OR does not work well with others"
Im sorry if I worded it badly, but I also dont know why you are having a go at me, all I did was write something a little badly, some people in here call solo players much much worse things.
And I already admitted I dont work well with others
Writing an easily misconstrued comment and annoying you without meaning to at all should be evidence enough of that!
So, in short, I am genuinely sorry if I offended you with my comments, it was purely by accident
"A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2924
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:16:00 -
[76] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote: Im trying to apologise if it came across as that way as that was not intended
My syntax may have been off, I meant it to be read as "Does not play with others OR does not work well with others"
Im sorry if I worded it badly, but I also dont know why you are having a go at me, all I did was write something a little badly, some people in here call solo players much much worse things.
And I already admitted I dont work well with others
Writing an easily misconstrued comment and annoying you without meaning to at all should be evidence enough of that!
So, in short, I am genuinely sorry if I offended you with my comments, it was purely by accident
I thought my responses were fairly congenial. No offense was taken as I know who and what I am. I am just giving examples from my situation as I feel that they are much more common then many players believe. Plus, I missed the post where you admitted to prefer playing solo. That is something you should have said in your first post to be honest.
So considering you have admitted to prefer playing solo, do you use alts to bolster your corps numbers? Use NPC a corp to duck war decks? If not then you should just go ahead and edit your first post. Just saying. Not angry or upset. Just expressing my point of view. |
Mike LeRoi
The Forsaken Guild
0
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:20:00 -
[77] - Quote
Me. Call me what you want, I enjoy running missions alone. I have no problem if some one wants to tag along though. You are never alone in New Eden anyway. So, what's the question again? |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4824
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:30:00 -
[78] - Quote
Slade Trillgon wrote:
I thought my responses were fairly congenial. No offense was taken as I know who and what I am. I am just giving examples from my situation as I feel that they are much more common then many players believe. Plus, I missed the post where you admitted to prefer playing solo. That is something you should have said in your first post considering the topic of the thread to be honest.
So considering you have admitted to prefer playing solo; do you use alts to bolster your corps numbers? Do you use your NPC corp to duck war decks? If not then you should just go ahead and edit your first post. Just saying. Not angry or upset. Just expressing my point of view.
In regards to bolstering numbers, yes (You can meet my extended family in another thread if you like, I think its called "What PLEX means to me" or some thing (they all came around when I called them inbred hicks).
And no to the NPC ducking.
Pretty sure I said "may", meaning not everyone does this "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Ohhhh Feely Nice
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2014.06.03 20:00:00 -
[79] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote: That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
I wasnt trying to be negative, I was pointing out solo players dont play with others. It may also be the case that some dont work well with others (like me), but you can still be plenty gregarious and still be solo, nothing wrong wiht that either. Your posting style on these forums does not at all make this obvious.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4827
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Posted - 2014.06.03 20:02:00 -
[80] - Quote
Ohhhh Feely Nice wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote: That may be correct for some solo players, but there are numerous players, I being one of them, that do not have the RL time to dedicate themselves to others. When we do we seems like we are slackers because when we are able to log on we have a hard time coordinating with other associated players in an industrial corp and therefore hold the group back. That or we are in a pvp corp and spend our minimally available time sitting in station waiting for the FC's to get their stuff straight or for the enemies to get their stuff together...so to speak.
I wasnt trying to be negative, I was pointing out solo players dont play with others. It may also be the case that some dont work well with others (like me), but you can still be plenty gregarious and still be solo, nothing wrong wiht that either. Your posting style on these forums does not at all make this obvious.
Im just not a people person
Im more of a sociopath, though thats probably a bit grandiose for what I really am
Im kinda happy though that something about me really brings out the hate in others "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
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Kerie Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.06.04 15:19:00 -
[81] - Quote
Personally, I believe a solo player is someone who is controlling their character(s) fully and without any out of game code.
I know there are people playing the game using software like ISBoxer, which apparently CCP has said they are allowed to do. But I cannot see how that is not classed as "botting" as you are only controlling one character and relying on out of game code to control the others. |
Zander Kumamato
Madz Legion Madz Republic
39
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Posted - 2014.06.04 18:35:00 -
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Kerie Thomas wrote:Personally, I believe a solo player is someone who is controlling their character(s) fully and without any out of game code.
I know there are people playing the game using software like ISBoxer, which apparently CCP has said they are allowed to do. But I cannot see how that is not classed as "botting" as you are only controlling one character and relying on out of game code to control the others.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.04 18:45:00 -
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Kerie Thomas wrote:Personally, I believe a solo player is someone who is controlling their character(s) fully and without any out of game code.
Thats right
The only important CODE can be found in-game! "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13960
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:46:00 -
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Solo - one person playing one account fighting with one pilot without any OGB or outside assistance whatsoever.
"Solo" - one person playing several accounts with one pilot, one OGB alt, one falcon/blackbird/griffin/ibis alt and 3 neutral logistics.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
608
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Posted - 2014.06.05 08:39:00 -
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People so hateful of OGBs. If jealous, get your own booster while they still do something.
Else, flying true solo without scout/OGB is very daring, also incredibly dumb. "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Talia Prime
Imperial Militia
33
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Posted - 2014.06.05 09:18:00 -
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I used to think I was a solo player. Due to time constraints and inconsistent logging on times I'm unable to participate in corp activities so I mainly do exploration in all sectors of space. That said, I do participate in Spectre fleets and used to love bombers bar. I also used to run incursions, although I rarely get the chance now. So, I guess I'm not truly solo. |
Leafar Nightfall
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2014.06.05 13:24:00 -
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Talia Prime wrote:I used to think I was a solo player. Due to time constraints and inconsistent logging on times I'm unable to participate in corp activities so I mainly do exploration in all sectors of space. That said, I do participate in Spectre fleets and used to love bombers bar. I also used to run incursions, although I rarely get the chance now. So, I guess I'm not truly solo.
I'd still consider you a solo player. If you do most of your things solo, run your own "services" (i.e. ships and modules logistic), don't have a regular group or corp, and mostly do solo stuff like exploration, you're a solo player.
Like I said, solo doesn't mean alone necessarily. Yesterday I became friends with two other pilots. one who mopped the floor with me three times in a row and shared some tips, and fleeted up with the second when we saw that we'd tie if we fought (I wouldn't break his tank and he wouldn't be able to get me in his scrambler range)
Playing solo has much, much more to do with being independent than with being antissocial |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1458
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Posted - 2014.06.05 13:25:00 -
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For me, solo equates to busy in real life. I don't feel like I'd be reliable to an active corp and I'd be worried that I'd get sucked in and risk RL commitments. .. when everything else is gone .. |
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
398
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Posted - 2014.06.05 13:45:00 -
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I play solo most of the time. One account too.
I've been in and out of a few corps over the years, and never cared for the demands I needed to fulfill to participate. I hate feeling like I'm not pulling my weight, and the conflict that creates between my game time and real life. I just want to play at my own pace and not have to worry about it. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12024
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Posted - 2014.06.05 17:49:00 -
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I'm all alone in my alliance. Should count as pretty solo.
/c
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Anslo
Scope Works
5244
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Posted - 2014.06.05 17:51:00 -
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Bro you 'solo' with 18 mining titans, come on.
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Zack Korth
Livid CO.
306
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:05:00 -
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people who will do anything to keep from being shot |
Bronson Hughes
19
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:48:00 -
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I'd call a solo player one who doesn't spend much, if any, time participating in fixed social connections like corps, alliances, channels, etc. You interact with other players every time you log on, but if it's with different, random players every time, you're pretty much playing solo.
I currently qualify as a solo player. I'm recently back after a long break and have less uninterrupted time to play, so I've been enjoying the freedom that solo play grants. I'm trying my hand at science & industry, trying missions in different ship configurations, roaming around losec looking for stuff to pop, etc. (And enjoying the impact of Tiericide! ) To me, playing solo is not as much fun as when I was in a corp with other people, but it's more fun than sitting largely idle in a corp knowing that my corpmates can't depend on me for ops and such.
I do have two established accounts, and I just started up a third that I may keep if it's profitable enough to buy PLEX in-game.
Zack Korth wrote:people who will do anything to keep from being shot I don't avoid getting shot, but I do generally avoid getting shot first. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I don't avoid getting shot, but I do generally avoid getting shot first. |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
708
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:50:00 -
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SOLO = Ship Only Lives Once It is really hard to change your signature settings |
Netan MalDoran
Yumping Amok Circle-Of-Two
11
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:50:00 -
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I like this playing style to a degree, able to have enough guns to take out solo targets and become self sufficient, build and harvest your own stuff to use against others. Kinda like suvivor :D "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
Leafar Nightfall
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:59:00 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote:I like this playing style to a degree, able to have enough guns to take out solo targets and become self sufficient, build and harvest your own stuff to use against others. Kinda like suvivor :D
I don't build anything I use, but I dip my toes in everything I want, from mining to pvp, going through missions and exploration, and so on
I didn't feel I had this freedom in a corp and seeing from the other people comments in here I don't believe it was a problem with that corp only. Sure corps have fun stuff to do too, and this broad range of activities is the opposite from the specialization most people preach, but I never am out of something to do when I log on. At most I spend time choosing what I'll do next, but when I decide I don't have to ask for help or authorization or wait for someone else |
Varathius
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
52
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Posted - 2014.06.05 19:28:00 -
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solo play sure helped me understand the true potential of all those smaller ships in eve that are often neglected and ignored so much as a whole. Unfortunately, so many people miss the opportunity on how thrilling a simple t1 vs t1 frigate fight can be. |
Souixsie Kayne
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.06.05 19:45:00 -
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I consider myself a solo player. I have been in a corp before and found that my random play time was not a good fit. So now I do what I like doing by myself. As far as interacting with others, I have no problems teaming up with someone or chatting with some random person. Matter of fact I spent an hour or so having a friendly chat with another miner whilst we chewed rocks. I like my play style much better for many reasons.
- I can do what I like, when I like. - I can fly whatever I like and fit it out that suits me. - All profits are mine - My losses are mine as well and I don't have to listen to a speech about my blunders effecting that corp kill board.
Another thing I like about being solo is I don't have to put up with any political BS. It makes things really easy when I set out to see places. I just consider everyone is out to kill me. I don't go looking for fights and I do my up most to avoid fights and that in itself is not an easy thing to do. I actually find it a challenge sneaking about and I don't fly a cloaky. Last time I was in Null I went over 30 jumps through null and survived untill I hit that pesky gate camp on my way back to home base.
I spend most of my time in Hisec but I don't consider myself a Carebear. I love the game as it is, I like the danger is all it's forms and when I get blapped, I don't cry about it. I just dust myself off and continue on.
I do have two accounts. One is a miner/explorer/ratter and the other is a freighter/salvager/ore collector |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
646
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Posted - 2014.06.05 20:46:00 -
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Solo pvper is some one that doesnt have 5 other ships in his fleet all controlled by him. One for links one for jams for for dps one for tank and one to scoop the loot.
That is not SOLO pvp.
SOLO player is one how doesnt do the social part of the game. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1517
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Posted - 2014.06.05 21:00:00 -
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Adira Nictor wrote:Solo Player: A solo player is a player who's primary activities in game are done alone. In 90% of cases I call these players targets, the other 10% are elite pvpers. this
However you need to add 3rd category there: something in between targets and "elite"
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Dirk Digglor
Ordo Templis Nuit
0
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Posted - 2014.06.05 21:44:00 -
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I am a solo player. I may be somewhere between a target and elite solo player you speak of.. I am far from being a target, but wouldn't really count myself as elite either..
I play alone lately but with 2 toons at about 30mil SP each. on a dual-monitor pc. one is my main toon and the other is my support alt. I play them as one character and rarely would you ever seen either one in space without the other somewhere in the same system. my support alt flys a comand ship and is maxed out in leadership skills as a fleet booster and salvager as well as drone skills to help out in battle. I rarely need anyones help for anything.
I used to be in a player corp but left when some fools started a war dec on us every week which was limiting my game play. so I started my own 2 man corp (for the use of hangers) and been this way for about 6months now.
I am considering joining another corp soon, mainly just to mix things up and share some of the leadership skills I have trained with others that might like a nice boost. |
KnowUsByTheDead
1796
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Posted - 2014.06.05 21:48:00 -
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I am a solo player.
I also have multiple accounts for many different things.
But, I usually run only two clients max. Partly due to hardware, partly due to not wanting the headache of a bunch of different clients and the micromanagement that comes with manual multi-boxing.
However, my choice to play solo is based solely on the fact that I am not interested in someone else telling me how to play the game I pay for. What skills to train. What systems to grind in. What can be said and not be said. Whether I can PvP or not. Whether I can scam or not. The list goes on and on...
But...
I wouldn't go so far as to equate "solo" with "antisocial."
I participate in a handful of communities....from incursion chans, to the more "undesirable" communities.
And I love me some EO forums.
So...
Does that make me a "solo" player, or does that make me a "community" player?
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. |
NIFTYGetAtMe
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.05 22:15:00 -
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Somebody who plays alone. |
Marsha Mallow
904
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Posted - 2014.06.05 22:29:00 -
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This a strange topic. I'm not sure how to define a solo player. They could be in a corp but prefer to play alone, or in their own corp with as little interraction as possible. I don't see why any playstyle should be 'better' than another, it's down to personal choice.
I'd class myself as a solo and a group player, depending on what I'm doing. I have lots of characters in different corps, some are just my alt corps, but even those sit in various channels ingame. As a few others have mentioned, sometimes I'm just not in the mood to chat or doing something that requires a lot of concentration. On the other hand it's possible to be engaged in most activities and still chat to people. Or be in a massive fleet and be completely disconnected, just following orders.
For PVE - missions I prefer groups (it's how I started doing them) - incursions are group play but often with strangers, it's not as if you interract all that much - plexing generally is solo, but I might call someone to help if camped or doing a really tough one
For PVP I prefer group. Mainly so I can mentally switch off and just do as I'm told. Not really keen on the attitude of elitist soloers who bang on about how much better they are than everyone else. They probably are, but so what.
For ISK making, a lot of it is done by interracting with others. Reading forums, watching markets, chatting to other people about 'business' opportunities etc. Despite that interraction I'd say these activies are very much solo - particularly as the people I talk to are likely to be competitors. A lot of those players seem to be quite introvert and focused on their activities, but not necessarily unsociable.
Most of the corps I've been in have had a few 'solo' players, either quiet personalities or those who play largely alone. They sometimes still join group activities when they feel like it but you're more likely to find them off hunting. They pop up on the forums too, it's not as if playing alone means you don't interract at all with the wider community. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
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